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See the wiki about go.com
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Yahoo!'s own search engine discontinued and replaced by Bing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Supertanno ( talk • contribs) 16:00, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
OpenText Corp., an enterprise content management company based in Waterloo, Ontario, claims to have invented the first search engine technology. The company, co-founded by Tim Bray, grew out of a research project at the University of Waterloo begun in the late 1980s to digitize the Oxford English Dictionary. Out of that, the company claims, came the "first search engine technology" which Bray sought to commercialize by incorporating OpenText in 1991. OpenText's search engine was eventually adopted by Yahoo!, one of the company's early customers. [1] [2] [3] Anthony reinhart ( talk) 02:01, 22 April 2014 (UTC) In this YouTube video, the people involved with the University of Waterloo/Oxford Dictionary project discuss the birth of what they call the first search engine. [4]
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Interesting - I see that there is no mention of Blippex on here despite claims in a number of places on the web that it is the new google. Accepting that those sort of claims are usually rubbish it still seems an important development. I'm not used to googling something and not finding a Wiki page! Cheers -- 146.90.197.165 ( talk) 09:12, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
Altavista's albeit brief attempt to take on Google in 2000 deserves a mention.
-- В²C ☎ 01:00, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
This article's lede image File:Internet_Key_Layers.png has been added to several pages by its creator - is it original research? It's neither sourced nor summarising sourced material in the article: the article doesn't use the word "layers", and with its vague talk of "breakthroughs" the list implies that search engines were invented by Google in 1998. Should it be reworked or removed? -- McGeddon ( talk) 13:05, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
Other search engines like Duckduckgo.com should be included in the ranking in the paragraph "market share". Indeed I can see that Lycos is still there in this small list and that more popular search engines like Duckduckgo.com is absent. I do not know the other one but they surely exists Miladioudediou ( talk) 17:51, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
The source article does not have any references and thus does not claim NOTABILITY for it to be in its own article. <<< SOME GADGET GEEK >>> ( talk) 00:52, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
I suggest not to merge the two articles because of the following two key reasons:
1. The article "Search Engine Submission" does have many reliable references, but it seems nobody add them. For example: when we submit to the search engine Baidu.com, we use the official submission link Baidu provides: http://zhanzhang.baidu.com/linksubmit/url Let's add them later.
2. The two articles target different visitors: the article "web search engines" is for beginners or for those who want to know search engine history, while the article "search engine submission" is for those who want to promote their websites or business worldwide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.196.149.163 ( talk) 08:29, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Done Jonathan A Jones ( talk) 14:45, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
This article does not distinguish the terms "web browser" and "search engine" although it does distinguish the terms "search engine" and web directory. My computing knowledge is not good enough to allow me to work out how a web browser is different to a search engine, so can I make a plea that a knowledgeable editor can distinguish these terms. Thank you Vorbee ( talk) 17:12, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
What's the source for /info/en/?search=Web_search_engine#Market_share? -- orschiro ( talk) 09:38, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
The "Advanced Search" was deleted by Google and at present if the user defines the desired result by inputting "word1 word2 word3" Google will respond with results containing "word1" ONLY! or ANY combination of 1,rearely 2, never 3 in the output. This dishonest procedure is not the only dishonest action by Google geared now to be a money-making machine. If the net is cast wide, the chance that the user will hit some advert, is increased. The EU Comissioner fined Google for promoting its "shopping" but failed to notice that it skews the general search as well. The "advanced" feature and Boolean Search are most important for the user, not so much the technicalities mentioned in the article. Otherwise the author(s) ought to be complimented for listing all engines as they did. signed by Jan Stecki, retired prof in science. 89.67.88.163 ( talk) 19:08, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
I second the opinion of the user above. Where is the information about Search Syntax ? Why has it apparently totally disappeared from the pages of Wikipedia ? Darkman101 ( talk) 06:39, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
I have looked for the Jewgle out of curiosity, but I haven't found any working site that is not a joke. Inconexo ( talk) 16:20, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
I may be wrong, but Inktomi doesn't look like it had a inktomi.com (archived) direct (global) web search page, it's more of a company with a search engine product. It doesn't fit the later items on the chronology table - all later items have/had web search page. MarMi wiki ( talk) 19:23, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
Lauraham8 Hi - I reverted your recent changes, partly because your edits were not consistent with the MOS, but also because they didn't appear to be taking a neutral point of view.
There are countless categories of specialized search engines, so I don't understand why there is a section here detailing "Religious search engines", but nothing else. I suggest either the section be renamed "Specialized search engines" and then provide a general list of representative platforms (and trim this text considerably), or fork the current content into a new article on Religous search engines. -- ZimZalaBim talk 15:40, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
I remember using a site that would submit my query to many search engines at once and aggregate the results, but I can't remember the name. Does anyone remember it? Shouldn't this be in the list? -- SpareSimian ( talk) 14:51, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
Someone has indeed replaced the page with an old poem. I have clicked on undo... it says it has to be done manually. I would appreciate if someone with better knowledge could fix it please. -- Hypernator ( talk) 22:27, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved ( closed by non-admin page mover) -- Calidum 19:27, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
Search engine →
Web search engine – According to lead
Eurohunter (
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22:40, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
@ Rublov: Not sure if you & the IP address are the same person, but the RM above failed. The long-standing intro ( https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Search_engine&oldid=1028190477 ) just calls it a "search engine" because, well, that's the term. Then you & the IP addresseses started trying to force in this needless disambiguation. It's just called a search engine, as can be shown by countless hits in the wild - you can disagree with that usage and think it's not specific enough and needs "web", but the rest of the world doesn't agree. Check out a Google News search for "Search Engine" and you'll see what I mean - people aren't attaching "Web" in front, they know what's meant in the same way that people don't specify that they mean a sailing ship not a starship when they say "ship". SnowFire ( talk) 22:19, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
A search engine is a software system that searches a collection of documents, most commonly web pages.Rublov ( talk) 23:02, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
Per the discussion in " Article lede" above, I propose that Search engine (computing) be merged into this page. It is not at all clear from the page titles that Search engine is actually about web search engines and Search engine (computing) (poor disambiguation, incidentally — web search engines are also a topic in computing) is about the general topic of search engines, web search engines included. The recent RM sought to remedy this and failed. If fixing the pages' titles isn't an option, the next best thing is to combine the articles, especially since Search engine (computing) is short and not very high-quality.
So I propose that we merge Search engine (computing) into a new section in this article called "How search engines work", add a brief "Non-web search engines" section, and rewrite the lead to define search engines correctly as a general concept but clarify that the article is mostly about web search engines.
Pinging participants in the recent RM: @ Eurohunter, @ JIP, @ Datapass, @ SnowFire, @ Blindlynx, @ Mysterymanblue, @ Hfnreiwjfd
-- Rublov ( talk) 11:09, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
Oppose merge: (per Hfnreiwjfd's initial statement). Other discussions appear to have some merit but I'm not looking in detail at those. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 09:47, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
Is it poor design of Wikipedia, or initiative of "vigilant" MrOllie watch? It Seems that any changes contributed by me being reverted by that person (Be welcoming to newcomers). Please advise. ( Tatdig ( talk) 18:47, 8 November 2021 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tatdig ( talk • contribs) 18:43, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect People Search and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 23#People Search until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 07:44, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
wide overlap. keep in mind Search engine technology has recently been merged into Search engine (computing). so, the previous #Merger_proposal deserves a revisit. fgnievinski ( talk) 06:51, 20 September 2023 (UTC) fgnievinski ( talk) 06:51, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
The entire "Technology" section appears to have been copied verbatim from https://www.wiley.com/legacy/compbooks/sonnenreich/history.html. This source is also absolutely ancient relative to the subject matter. FChlo ( talk) 01:34, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
Can you please add one of the following to the Further Reading section:
[6]Mining World Knowledge for Analysis of Search Engine Content - 63 citations
[7]Search Engine Content Analysis - 2573 downloads
While the research is old, it is still highly relevant to the topic of search engines, having many practical applications including automatic classification, search engine comparison, user profiling, data mining and big data. The taxonomy can easily extended to cover in excess of ten thousand subjects.
The paper and thesis have been cited and downloaded numerous times, showing their relevance and impact to the academic community. You can find the full citation information in Google Scholar, and the download statistics are available on the linked QUT pages, showing a significant continued interest over time.
JohnDKing (
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Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 08:50, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
See the wiki about go.com
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Yahoo!'s own search engine discontinued and replaced by Bing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Supertanno ( talk • contribs) 16:00, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
OpenText Corp., an enterprise content management company based in Waterloo, Ontario, claims to have invented the first search engine technology. The company, co-founded by Tim Bray, grew out of a research project at the University of Waterloo begun in the late 1980s to digitize the Oxford English Dictionary. Out of that, the company claims, came the "first search engine technology" which Bray sought to commercialize by incorporating OpenText in 1991. OpenText's search engine was eventually adopted by Yahoo!, one of the company's early customers. [1] [2] [3] Anthony reinhart ( talk) 02:01, 22 April 2014 (UTC) In this YouTube video, the people involved with the University of Waterloo/Oxford Dictionary project discuss the birth of what they call the first search engine. [4]
References
Interesting - I see that there is no mention of Blippex on here despite claims in a number of places on the web that it is the new google. Accepting that those sort of claims are usually rubbish it still seems an important development. I'm not used to googling something and not finding a Wiki page! Cheers -- 146.90.197.165 ( talk) 09:12, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
Altavista's albeit brief attempt to take on Google in 2000 deserves a mention.
-- В²C ☎ 01:00, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
This article's lede image File:Internet_Key_Layers.png has been added to several pages by its creator - is it original research? It's neither sourced nor summarising sourced material in the article: the article doesn't use the word "layers", and with its vague talk of "breakthroughs" the list implies that search engines were invented by Google in 1998. Should it be reworked or removed? -- McGeddon ( talk) 13:05, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
Other search engines like Duckduckgo.com should be included in the ranking in the paragraph "market share". Indeed I can see that Lycos is still there in this small list and that more popular search engines like Duckduckgo.com is absent. I do not know the other one but they surely exists Miladioudediou ( talk) 17:51, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
The source article does not have any references and thus does not claim NOTABILITY for it to be in its own article. <<< SOME GADGET GEEK >>> ( talk) 00:52, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
I suggest not to merge the two articles because of the following two key reasons:
1. The article "Search Engine Submission" does have many reliable references, but it seems nobody add them. For example: when we submit to the search engine Baidu.com, we use the official submission link Baidu provides: http://zhanzhang.baidu.com/linksubmit/url Let's add them later.
2. The two articles target different visitors: the article "web search engines" is for beginners or for those who want to know search engine history, while the article "search engine submission" is for those who want to promote their websites or business worldwide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.196.149.163 ( talk) 08:29, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Done Jonathan A Jones ( talk) 14:45, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
This article does not distinguish the terms "web browser" and "search engine" although it does distinguish the terms "search engine" and web directory. My computing knowledge is not good enough to allow me to work out how a web browser is different to a search engine, so can I make a plea that a knowledgeable editor can distinguish these terms. Thank you Vorbee ( talk) 17:12, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
What's the source for /info/en/?search=Web_search_engine#Market_share? -- orschiro ( talk) 09:38, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
The "Advanced Search" was deleted by Google and at present if the user defines the desired result by inputting "word1 word2 word3" Google will respond with results containing "word1" ONLY! or ANY combination of 1,rearely 2, never 3 in the output. This dishonest procedure is not the only dishonest action by Google geared now to be a money-making machine. If the net is cast wide, the chance that the user will hit some advert, is increased. The EU Comissioner fined Google for promoting its "shopping" but failed to notice that it skews the general search as well. The "advanced" feature and Boolean Search are most important for the user, not so much the technicalities mentioned in the article. Otherwise the author(s) ought to be complimented for listing all engines as they did. signed by Jan Stecki, retired prof in science. 89.67.88.163 ( talk) 19:08, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
I second the opinion of the user above. Where is the information about Search Syntax ? Why has it apparently totally disappeared from the pages of Wikipedia ? Darkman101 ( talk) 06:39, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
I have looked for the Jewgle out of curiosity, but I haven't found any working site that is not a joke. Inconexo ( talk) 16:20, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
I may be wrong, but Inktomi doesn't look like it had a inktomi.com (archived) direct (global) web search page, it's more of a company with a search engine product. It doesn't fit the later items on the chronology table - all later items have/had web search page. MarMi wiki ( talk) 19:23, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
Lauraham8 Hi - I reverted your recent changes, partly because your edits were not consistent with the MOS, but also because they didn't appear to be taking a neutral point of view.
There are countless categories of specialized search engines, so I don't understand why there is a section here detailing "Religious search engines", but nothing else. I suggest either the section be renamed "Specialized search engines" and then provide a general list of representative platforms (and trim this text considerably), or fork the current content into a new article on Religous search engines. -- ZimZalaBim talk 15:40, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
I remember using a site that would submit my query to many search engines at once and aggregate the results, but I can't remember the name. Does anyone remember it? Shouldn't this be in the list? -- SpareSimian ( talk) 14:51, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
Someone has indeed replaced the page with an old poem. I have clicked on undo... it says it has to be done manually. I would appreciate if someone with better knowledge could fix it please. -- Hypernator ( talk) 22:27, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved ( closed by non-admin page mover) -- Calidum 19:27, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
Search engine →
Web search engine – According to lead
Eurohunter (
talk)
22:40, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
@ Rublov: Not sure if you & the IP address are the same person, but the RM above failed. The long-standing intro ( https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Search_engine&oldid=1028190477 ) just calls it a "search engine" because, well, that's the term. Then you & the IP addresseses started trying to force in this needless disambiguation. It's just called a search engine, as can be shown by countless hits in the wild - you can disagree with that usage and think it's not specific enough and needs "web", but the rest of the world doesn't agree. Check out a Google News search for "Search Engine" and you'll see what I mean - people aren't attaching "Web" in front, they know what's meant in the same way that people don't specify that they mean a sailing ship not a starship when they say "ship". SnowFire ( talk) 22:19, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
A search engine is a software system that searches a collection of documents, most commonly web pages.Rublov ( talk) 23:02, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
Per the discussion in " Article lede" above, I propose that Search engine (computing) be merged into this page. It is not at all clear from the page titles that Search engine is actually about web search engines and Search engine (computing) (poor disambiguation, incidentally — web search engines are also a topic in computing) is about the general topic of search engines, web search engines included. The recent RM sought to remedy this and failed. If fixing the pages' titles isn't an option, the next best thing is to combine the articles, especially since Search engine (computing) is short and not very high-quality.
So I propose that we merge Search engine (computing) into a new section in this article called "How search engines work", add a brief "Non-web search engines" section, and rewrite the lead to define search engines correctly as a general concept but clarify that the article is mostly about web search engines.
Pinging participants in the recent RM: @ Eurohunter, @ JIP, @ Datapass, @ SnowFire, @ Blindlynx, @ Mysterymanblue, @ Hfnreiwjfd
-- Rublov ( talk) 11:09, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
Oppose merge: (per Hfnreiwjfd's initial statement). Other discussions appear to have some merit but I'm not looking in detail at those. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 09:47, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
Is it poor design of Wikipedia, or initiative of "vigilant" MrOllie watch? It Seems that any changes contributed by me being reverted by that person (Be welcoming to newcomers). Please advise. ( Tatdig ( talk) 18:47, 8 November 2021 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tatdig ( talk • contribs) 18:43, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect People Search and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 23#People Search until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 07:44, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
wide overlap. keep in mind Search engine technology has recently been merged into Search engine (computing). so, the previous #Merger_proposal deserves a revisit. fgnievinski ( talk) 06:51, 20 September 2023 (UTC) fgnievinski ( talk) 06:51, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
The entire "Technology" section appears to have been copied verbatim from https://www.wiley.com/legacy/compbooks/sonnenreich/history.html. This source is also absolutely ancient relative to the subject matter. FChlo ( talk) 01:34, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
Can you please add one of the following to the Further Reading section:
[6]Mining World Knowledge for Analysis of Search Engine Content - 63 citations
[7]Search Engine Content Analysis - 2573 downloads
While the research is old, it is still highly relevant to the topic of search engines, having many practical applications including automatic classification, search engine comparison, user profiling, data mining and big data. The taxonomy can easily extended to cover in excess of ten thousand subjects.
The paper and thesis have been cited and downloaded numerous times, showing their relevance and impact to the academic community. You can find the full citation information in Google Scholar, and the download statistics are available on the linked QUT pages, showing a significant continued interest over time.
JohnDKing (
talk)
09:03, 21 July 2024 (UTC)