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Let's move it to Scarborough, England and keep Scarborough as the disambig page, since the Scarborough in Canada is like 10 times bigger than this one!-- Sonjaaa 06:40, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
The picture at the bottom page is of Spa Bridge, a foot bridge at the end of Valley road. Valley bridge is futher up Valley Road (away from the sea) and has a road over it. I can't seem to edit the picture's title to correct it. - Thank you for correcting this!
is there any pictures of valley bridge? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.143.193.91 ( talk) 23:12, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
I have some photo's of Scarborough Lighthouse on my website that are available for use, with credit if anyone wishes to include them. They can be seen at the following locations
http://www.pbase.com/barking_mad/image/44699808 http://www.pbase.com/barking_mad/image/62519627 http://www.pbase.com/barking_mad/image/66858805 http://www.pbase.com/barking_mad/image/44699807 Barking_Mad
Are these photos still available? These links are dead. Flarpster ( talk) 4 February 2014 (UTC)
I'm going to post this here on the offchance the anonymous editor might read it. The population of 100,000+ for Scarborough is for the whole borough of Scarborough. This is not the same thing as the town of Scarborough. The borough of Scarborough contains several towns, including Whitby and Filey, but this article refers only to the town of Scarborough. The population of the town of Scarborough is only about 50,000. From the Scarborough Borough Council site:
So Scarborough borough does have a population of 106,000, but this information belongs in the article Scarborough (district). The town of Scarborough has a population of 50,000, and this information belongs in this article, Scarborough. I hope that's clear, because I'm running out of ways to explain this. — sjorford ++ 17:25, 26 June 2006 (UTC) "Scarborough District would be classed the same as Greater London. Therefore, the equal meaning of Metropolitan Area means the District, and the urban is the villages usually associated with the town. e.g. eastfield, crossgates, cayton etc. - User:jrobin08 18:49, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Just a query, does anyone know what adjective is used for residents of Scarborough? In the Scarborough, Ontario article there was some discussion over the suspicion that the typically Toronto use of Scarberian for a resident of Scarborough possibly being a pejoritive, or at least a derivitive of the nickname Scarberia, but no one being aware of any other adjective. So I'm just curious about the original. Any help? WilyD 18:27, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
I believe it to be Scarborian. Having lived in Scarborough this is the only term I have heard used. Hope this helps.
AndyP543
01:19, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Yes, Scarborian is the term I'm familiar with from my 5 years living there. Nick Fraser 13:35, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Defintely Scarborian. Dazza-man 20.16, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Whitby-folk, call Scarborough people 'Algerino's', nobody seems to know why?
Scarborough F.C fans are known as Seadogs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nix D ( talk • contribs) 10:56, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
A Scarborian from the original 'old' town, refers to themself as a 'Bottom-ender', not an expression used out of town! I believe it was a term used to distinguish between old Scarborough fishing 'village', and the inland settlement of Falsgrave, ( which is now a district of the town), in medieval times. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nix D ( talk • contribs) 18:21, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
I can also vouch for 'Scarborian' Scottjbroughton ( talk) 21:40, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
Could someone add why he is connected to Scarborough? The town isn't mentioned at all on his wiki page Malcolm Hebden... Thanks Desdinova 15:06, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
He used to work in various capacities for the Stephen Joseph Theatre, and reside in the town. You would be correct in assuming that he was not born and/or raised in Scarborough. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nix D ( talk • contribs) 13:43, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
This article has been renamed from Scarborough to Scarborough, North Yorkshire as the result of a move request.
The result of the proposal was Scarborough → Scarborough, North Yorkshire — The place in Ontario has a population of 600,000; the place in England has a population of 50,000 Fishhead64 22:29, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
An anon added George Elliott to the residents' section, and I reverted. What I should have said, if I hadn't run out of edit summary characters, is that no-one on the dab page George Elliott appears to have been resident in Scarborough at any time. I'd welcome correction in this respect, if I'm wrong. Thanks. — mholland 16:00, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
The use of "North Yorkshire" to disambiguate seems awkward and unnecessary. There's only one Scarborough in Yorkshire, right? What's wrong with Scarborough, Yorkshire (or Richmond, Yorkshire, for that matter?) john k 23:43, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
(deindent)The article is in Category:Towns in North Yorkshire and the other articles in that category with a comma in their name also use "North Yorkshire". The infobox says the ceremonial county (which is actually used, not historic county) is North Yorkshire. The objective is predictability, where possible. -- Scott Davis Talk 13:12, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
"Luxury coachbuilding has a history of being an industry of coastal towns and Scarborough is no exception. FW Plaxton started a high class joinery business in 1907. Many of the town's buildings were built by them as well as the aforementioned bridge. The 1920s brought car manufacture and then shell cases during the war. Luxury coachbuilding began in the late 1920s and continues today at the Eastfield factory. Plaxton Park on Seamer Road is the site of the former Castle Works factory which closed in the 1990s when all manufacturing moved to Eastfield 4 miles to the south of Scarborough. Subject to closure after a disastrous buyout by Transbus then saved by management buyout in 2002, Plaxton Ltd upholds the fine tradition started by FW Plaxton by building state of art coaches and buses for British people and for export that compete with anything build abroad."
This section seems like advertising to me, especially "Plaxton Ltd upholds the fine tradition started by FW Plaxton by building state of art coaches and buses for British people and for export that compete with anything build abroad." Opinions? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DesdinovaUK ( talk • contribs) 00:30, 31 March 2007 (UTC).
No not advertising but factual information regarding industry. It is a fact that Plaxtons have contributed so much to the well being of the area after bringing secure employment for many. Comment added by the author of the Plaxton paragraph to put it in the context tht it was intended. They don't need to advertise!
It reads like advertising and has plenty of information that doesn't belong in an encyclopedia, let alone in an article about Scarborough. There is already a perfectly good article on Plaxton. Stev17 21:34, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Why is there specific references to print snd small website firms, when a multinational company such as McCains is not mentioned in the text?
I'm quite surprised there is no mention of us Scarborians being called 'Algerinos' by the Codheads from up the coast, and the whole story behind it, I thought it was quite a well known thing, or is it just on the footballing side of things? LookingYourBest 15:29, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
I've heard of two reasons for the 'Algerino' nickname.Firstly, a reference to a class of First World War Naval vessel,used to defend seaports? Obviously, not very well in Scarborough and Whitby's case! Secondly, a more distant connection to Barbary Pirates, and their attacks on coastal communities, Scarborough was in ancient times, also frequently visited by Ottoman traders, i.e Scarborough Fair. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nix D ( talk • contribs) 13:43, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
The user Mighty liam just removed Ben Ellis, the contestant from 'Any Dream Will Do' I was just wondering if he is getting deleted, shouldn't the fella from 'Grease is the word' go too? -- LookingYourBest 19:23, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
The list is waaaay too long. This article needs to be fumigated for linkspam. -- Kbh3rd talk 23:11, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Nice, free-to-use photograph of Scarborough parish church here should the need arise. :) -- Jza84 | Talk 14:58, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
In that chapter, it says:
The Scarborough Amateur Rowing Club was founded in May 1869, and is the oldest surviving rowing club on the north-east coast.
Due to the fact that "north-east" is linked to the North East England region, you can assume that the rowing club is the oldest one of that region. However, we all know that Scarborough doesn't belong to North East England, so the link is very confusing and should be removed. What's the definition of "north-east coast"? -- Dionysos1988 ( talk) 19:29, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
Where's the Black horse of Scarborough? it's only the most famous thing in the city. Nate5713 ( talk) 21:06, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
I think the Black Horse must be Scarborough, Ontario? Interestingly if you Google "Black Horse of Scarborough" (with inverted commas), then it turns up one single result - this page... Flarpster ( talk) 4 February 2014 (UTC)
An article on Scarborough based artist Frank Henry Algernon Mason now exists. Stuffed cat ( talk) 12:44, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
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I noticed the same thing as the previous unsigned comment: the map in the infobox is unhelpful as it does not show the town, being more appropriate for the Borough of Scarborough article where I have just added it.
On looking at the page history, the change from a town-specific map to this district map was in this edit which replaced {{ Infobox UK place}} by {{ Infobox settlement}}. Looking at Wikipedia:WikiProject_UK_geography/How_to_write_about_settlements#Infobox.2A, this says "All settlements of the United Kingdom (that are not coterminous with a local government district) are to use the Template:Infobox UK place, though some very rare exceptions exist." As the local government district is called "Borough of Scarborough", I interpret this as saying that we should be using {{ Infobox UK place}} here in this article.
I can see no discussion on this talk page about the change of template, so have WP:BOLDly reverted to the previous infobox. Pam D 09:35, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
I noticed that the information regarding both Beached Festival and Acoustic Gathering is now outdated. In regards to Beached Festival that article states ..."in the summer boasts 'Beached Festival' – an eclectic rock and pop festival which takes place on the South Bay beach...", which should now be in past tense since the cancellation of Beached Festival. Even if it were to include information on the come-back festival in 2011, that particular year it was held at the newly refurbished Open Air Theatre.
As for Acoustic Gathering, the article states "'Acoustic Gathering', a free one-day music festival, has been held annually in Peasholm Park since September 2005...". This information should also now be changed to include the addition of an extra day to the festival, as seen in recent years. Also, in 2012 there was a fee charged for entrance to the festival, making it no longer a free event.
I'm starting this discussion in case any users object to this information being added, before I edit the article?
Thanks Scottjbroughton ( talk) 13:10, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
I have updated the sentence about Beached Festival - I have put that it ran 2001-2008 and ignored the attempted 'revival' at the Open Air Theatre in 2011 - it has its own page anyway for such technicalities... Flarpster ( talk) 23:25, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
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Probably go for GA review when addressed. Keith D 20:11, 8 July 2007 (UTC) I'm going to try and address number 1 on this list over the next few days Flarpster ( talk) 16:42, 5th February 2014 (UTC) |
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Archive 1 |
Let's move it to Scarborough, England and keep Scarborough as the disambig page, since the Scarborough in Canada is like 10 times bigger than this one!-- Sonjaaa 06:40, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
The picture at the bottom page is of Spa Bridge, a foot bridge at the end of Valley road. Valley bridge is futher up Valley Road (away from the sea) and has a road over it. I can't seem to edit the picture's title to correct it. - Thank you for correcting this!
is there any pictures of valley bridge? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.143.193.91 ( talk) 23:12, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
I have some photo's of Scarborough Lighthouse on my website that are available for use, with credit if anyone wishes to include them. They can be seen at the following locations
http://www.pbase.com/barking_mad/image/44699808 http://www.pbase.com/barking_mad/image/62519627 http://www.pbase.com/barking_mad/image/66858805 http://www.pbase.com/barking_mad/image/44699807 Barking_Mad
Are these photos still available? These links are dead. Flarpster ( talk) 4 February 2014 (UTC)
I'm going to post this here on the offchance the anonymous editor might read it. The population of 100,000+ for Scarborough is for the whole borough of Scarborough. This is not the same thing as the town of Scarborough. The borough of Scarborough contains several towns, including Whitby and Filey, but this article refers only to the town of Scarborough. The population of the town of Scarborough is only about 50,000. From the Scarborough Borough Council site:
So Scarborough borough does have a population of 106,000, but this information belongs in the article Scarborough (district). The town of Scarborough has a population of 50,000, and this information belongs in this article, Scarborough. I hope that's clear, because I'm running out of ways to explain this. — sjorford ++ 17:25, 26 June 2006 (UTC) "Scarborough District would be classed the same as Greater London. Therefore, the equal meaning of Metropolitan Area means the District, and the urban is the villages usually associated with the town. e.g. eastfield, crossgates, cayton etc. - User:jrobin08 18:49, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Just a query, does anyone know what adjective is used for residents of Scarborough? In the Scarborough, Ontario article there was some discussion over the suspicion that the typically Toronto use of Scarberian for a resident of Scarborough possibly being a pejoritive, or at least a derivitive of the nickname Scarberia, but no one being aware of any other adjective. So I'm just curious about the original. Any help? WilyD 18:27, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
I believe it to be Scarborian. Having lived in Scarborough this is the only term I have heard used. Hope this helps.
AndyP543
01:19, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Yes, Scarborian is the term I'm familiar with from my 5 years living there. Nick Fraser 13:35, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Defintely Scarborian. Dazza-man 20.16, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Whitby-folk, call Scarborough people 'Algerino's', nobody seems to know why?
Scarborough F.C fans are known as Seadogs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nix D ( talk • contribs) 10:56, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
A Scarborian from the original 'old' town, refers to themself as a 'Bottom-ender', not an expression used out of town! I believe it was a term used to distinguish between old Scarborough fishing 'village', and the inland settlement of Falsgrave, ( which is now a district of the town), in medieval times. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nix D ( talk • contribs) 18:21, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
I can also vouch for 'Scarborian' Scottjbroughton ( talk) 21:40, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
Could someone add why he is connected to Scarborough? The town isn't mentioned at all on his wiki page Malcolm Hebden... Thanks Desdinova 15:06, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
He used to work in various capacities for the Stephen Joseph Theatre, and reside in the town. You would be correct in assuming that he was not born and/or raised in Scarborough. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nix D ( talk • contribs) 13:43, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
This article has been renamed from Scarborough to Scarborough, North Yorkshire as the result of a move request.
The result of the proposal was Scarborough → Scarborough, North Yorkshire — The place in Ontario has a population of 600,000; the place in England has a population of 50,000 Fishhead64 22:29, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
An anon added George Elliott to the residents' section, and I reverted. What I should have said, if I hadn't run out of edit summary characters, is that no-one on the dab page George Elliott appears to have been resident in Scarborough at any time. I'd welcome correction in this respect, if I'm wrong. Thanks. — mholland 16:00, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
The use of "North Yorkshire" to disambiguate seems awkward and unnecessary. There's only one Scarborough in Yorkshire, right? What's wrong with Scarborough, Yorkshire (or Richmond, Yorkshire, for that matter?) john k 23:43, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
(deindent)The article is in Category:Towns in North Yorkshire and the other articles in that category with a comma in their name also use "North Yorkshire". The infobox says the ceremonial county (which is actually used, not historic county) is North Yorkshire. The objective is predictability, where possible. -- Scott Davis Talk 13:12, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
"Luxury coachbuilding has a history of being an industry of coastal towns and Scarborough is no exception. FW Plaxton started a high class joinery business in 1907. Many of the town's buildings were built by them as well as the aforementioned bridge. The 1920s brought car manufacture and then shell cases during the war. Luxury coachbuilding began in the late 1920s and continues today at the Eastfield factory. Plaxton Park on Seamer Road is the site of the former Castle Works factory which closed in the 1990s when all manufacturing moved to Eastfield 4 miles to the south of Scarborough. Subject to closure after a disastrous buyout by Transbus then saved by management buyout in 2002, Plaxton Ltd upholds the fine tradition started by FW Plaxton by building state of art coaches and buses for British people and for export that compete with anything build abroad."
This section seems like advertising to me, especially "Plaxton Ltd upholds the fine tradition started by FW Plaxton by building state of art coaches and buses for British people and for export that compete with anything build abroad." Opinions? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DesdinovaUK ( talk • contribs) 00:30, 31 March 2007 (UTC).
No not advertising but factual information regarding industry. It is a fact that Plaxtons have contributed so much to the well being of the area after bringing secure employment for many. Comment added by the author of the Plaxton paragraph to put it in the context tht it was intended. They don't need to advertise!
It reads like advertising and has plenty of information that doesn't belong in an encyclopedia, let alone in an article about Scarborough. There is already a perfectly good article on Plaxton. Stev17 21:34, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Why is there specific references to print snd small website firms, when a multinational company such as McCains is not mentioned in the text?
I'm quite surprised there is no mention of us Scarborians being called 'Algerinos' by the Codheads from up the coast, and the whole story behind it, I thought it was quite a well known thing, or is it just on the footballing side of things? LookingYourBest 15:29, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
I've heard of two reasons for the 'Algerino' nickname.Firstly, a reference to a class of First World War Naval vessel,used to defend seaports? Obviously, not very well in Scarborough and Whitby's case! Secondly, a more distant connection to Barbary Pirates, and their attacks on coastal communities, Scarborough was in ancient times, also frequently visited by Ottoman traders, i.e Scarborough Fair. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nix D ( talk • contribs) 13:43, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
The user Mighty liam just removed Ben Ellis, the contestant from 'Any Dream Will Do' I was just wondering if he is getting deleted, shouldn't the fella from 'Grease is the word' go too? -- LookingYourBest 19:23, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
The list is waaaay too long. This article needs to be fumigated for linkspam. -- Kbh3rd talk 23:11, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Nice, free-to-use photograph of Scarborough parish church here should the need arise. :) -- Jza84 | Talk 14:58, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
In that chapter, it says:
The Scarborough Amateur Rowing Club was founded in May 1869, and is the oldest surviving rowing club on the north-east coast.
Due to the fact that "north-east" is linked to the North East England region, you can assume that the rowing club is the oldest one of that region. However, we all know that Scarborough doesn't belong to North East England, so the link is very confusing and should be removed. What's the definition of "north-east coast"? -- Dionysos1988 ( talk) 19:29, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
Where's the Black horse of Scarborough? it's only the most famous thing in the city. Nate5713 ( talk) 21:06, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
I think the Black Horse must be Scarborough, Ontario? Interestingly if you Google "Black Horse of Scarborough" (with inverted commas), then it turns up one single result - this page... Flarpster ( talk) 4 February 2014 (UTC)
An article on Scarborough based artist Frank Henry Algernon Mason now exists. Stuffed cat ( talk) 12:44, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
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I noticed the same thing as the previous unsigned comment: the map in the infobox is unhelpful as it does not show the town, being more appropriate for the Borough of Scarborough article where I have just added it.
On looking at the page history, the change from a town-specific map to this district map was in this edit which replaced {{ Infobox UK place}} by {{ Infobox settlement}}. Looking at Wikipedia:WikiProject_UK_geography/How_to_write_about_settlements#Infobox.2A, this says "All settlements of the United Kingdom (that are not coterminous with a local government district) are to use the Template:Infobox UK place, though some very rare exceptions exist." As the local government district is called "Borough of Scarborough", I interpret this as saying that we should be using {{ Infobox UK place}} here in this article.
I can see no discussion on this talk page about the change of template, so have WP:BOLDly reverted to the previous infobox. Pam D 09:35, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
I noticed that the information regarding both Beached Festival and Acoustic Gathering is now outdated. In regards to Beached Festival that article states ..."in the summer boasts 'Beached Festival' – an eclectic rock and pop festival which takes place on the South Bay beach...", which should now be in past tense since the cancellation of Beached Festival. Even if it were to include information on the come-back festival in 2011, that particular year it was held at the newly refurbished Open Air Theatre.
As for Acoustic Gathering, the article states "'Acoustic Gathering', a free one-day music festival, has been held annually in Peasholm Park since September 2005...". This information should also now be changed to include the addition of an extra day to the festival, as seen in recent years. Also, in 2012 there was a fee charged for entrance to the festival, making it no longer a free event.
I'm starting this discussion in case any users object to this information being added, before I edit the article?
Thanks Scottjbroughton ( talk) 13:10, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
I have updated the sentence about Beached Festival - I have put that it ran 2001-2008 and ignored the attempted 'revival' at the Open Air Theatre in 2011 - it has its own page anyway for such technicalities... Flarpster ( talk) 23:25, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
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The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Scarborough, North Yorkshire/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
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Probably go for GA review when addressed. Keith D 20:11, 8 July 2007 (UTC) I'm going to try and address number 1 on this list over the next few days Flarpster ( talk) 16:42, 5th February 2014 (UTC) |
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