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at Battles of Kawanakajima, some are quite famous. Fourth sashimono from left is that used by Takeda clan called "Takedabishi" or "Takedahishi", literally Takeda diamonds. Fifth one is used by Sanada clan commonly called "Sanada Rokumonsen", literally Sanada's Six Coins. Sanada's design has another meaning as it is the amount of money traditionally buried with a dead, it shows that troops under that banner fight to the death. If anyone has a photo of Sashimono used by Uesugi Kenshin, it has a short passage from a Buddhist scripture showing his dedication to Buddhism, it would be a meaningful addition to this article. -- Revth 10:00, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I don't know if it's been done already, but I was thinking of writing an article to incorporate the various modes of communication on a feudal Japanese battlefield - sashimono, hata-jirushi, uma-jirushi, horo, nobori, jinkai, taiko, and the daimyo's signalling fan which I don't know the Japanese name of...
Any suggestions as to what to call this article? (and/or category which the individual entries for the above items should probably go under)
thanks
LordAmeth 16:39, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
So, um, the Japanese page this links to is about woodworking. If I look up the first set of kanji in a dictionary it says it means "cabinetmaking" and the Japanese Wikipedia page refers to cabinetmaking (oddly enough, Apple's builtin Japanese dictionary based on the Daijisen does contain 指物 in the sense of battle flag, noting it only came into use with the Sengoku era, along with the cabinetmaking definition).
Japanese wikipedia, by contrast, refers to this style of flag as 幟 (nobori), for which a wikipedia page already exists. I want to suggest that the contents of this article be merged into that of Nobori, with a stub for the style of cabinetmaking and a note directing people curious about the flag to Nobori. I don't know enough about wikipedia administration to do it myself.
For what it's worth, scholarship in English predominantly uses sashimono with respect to woodworking, with most references to battle flags due to the considerable volume of scholarship by Turnbull. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.247.26.66 ( talk) 23:47, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
I propose a merge based off of this comment https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sashimono#%E6%8C%87%E3%81%97%E7%89%A9_=_Cabinetmaking? Space772 ( talk) 03:27, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
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at Battles of Kawanakajima, some are quite famous. Fourth sashimono from left is that used by Takeda clan called "Takedabishi" or "Takedahishi", literally Takeda diamonds. Fifth one is used by Sanada clan commonly called "Sanada Rokumonsen", literally Sanada's Six Coins. Sanada's design has another meaning as it is the amount of money traditionally buried with a dead, it shows that troops under that banner fight to the death. If anyone has a photo of Sashimono used by Uesugi Kenshin, it has a short passage from a Buddhist scripture showing his dedication to Buddhism, it would be a meaningful addition to this article. -- Revth 10:00, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I don't know if it's been done already, but I was thinking of writing an article to incorporate the various modes of communication on a feudal Japanese battlefield - sashimono, hata-jirushi, uma-jirushi, horo, nobori, jinkai, taiko, and the daimyo's signalling fan which I don't know the Japanese name of...
Any suggestions as to what to call this article? (and/or category which the individual entries for the above items should probably go under)
thanks
LordAmeth 16:39, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
So, um, the Japanese page this links to is about woodworking. If I look up the first set of kanji in a dictionary it says it means "cabinetmaking" and the Japanese Wikipedia page refers to cabinetmaking (oddly enough, Apple's builtin Japanese dictionary based on the Daijisen does contain 指物 in the sense of battle flag, noting it only came into use with the Sengoku era, along with the cabinetmaking definition).
Japanese wikipedia, by contrast, refers to this style of flag as 幟 (nobori), for which a wikipedia page already exists. I want to suggest that the contents of this article be merged into that of Nobori, with a stub for the style of cabinetmaking and a note directing people curious about the flag to Nobori. I don't know enough about wikipedia administration to do it myself.
For what it's worth, scholarship in English predominantly uses sashimono with respect to woodworking, with most references to battle flags due to the considerable volume of scholarship by Turnbull. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.247.26.66 ( talk) 23:47, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
I propose a merge based off of this comment https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sashimono#%E6%8C%87%E3%81%97%E7%89%A9_=_Cabinetmaking? Space772 ( talk) 03:27, 21 January 2024 (UTC)