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Tomwsulcer: Will you be making an article for everyone in the news re this issue? Dozens of students and survivors have tweeted, been quoted, etc. You're not doing them a favor by singling them out. A collective coverage at
Never Again MSD would be better.
--Animalparty! (
talk) 00:25, 11 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Your opinion has been roundly disputed in numerous AfD discussions. These people are notable, and you,
gutting the article for dubious reasons, is unacceptable. The tweeting and videos is where the action is at -- it is how the world works these days. And in six months, as more coverage is available, the community will decide what stays and what goes.--
Tomwsulcer (
talk) 00:30, 11 March 2018 (UTC)reply
The article on Sarah and Fredrick is totally inappropriate. Cameron, David and Emma are the only notable students. CookieMonster755✉ 00:48, 11 March 2018 (UTC)reply
You're free of course to put them both up for AfD, but you may have heard a rumor that administrators keep a Santa Claus file -- an off-record file of who's been "naughty or nice", by either contributing to Wikipedia, or wasting everybody's time with pointless AfDs.--
Tomwsulcer (
talk) 01:13, 11 March 2018 (UTC)reply
In this instance, the quotes are a big part of the story -- her tweets, her videos -- that's what her activism has been about. She's particularly good at it, with witty lines and gutsy challenges. And they're not merely quotes, but posts she's made to Twitter that have gotten much media attention as quotes, and are a big part of her considerable notability. That said, if in six months, there's not much else, then maybe that's a good time to review things, and either keep individual articles, or combine them, as the community sees fit.--
Tomwsulcer (
talk) 01:13, 11 March 2018 (UTC)reply
"Survivor"
She (and her group) should not be categorized as shooting survivors. This category is otherwise exclusive to people struck by bullets. She is more suitable in "Crime witnesses", where everyone is much like her.
InedibleHulk(talk) 17:52, 12 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Details in the article can follow the wording from reliable sources, but the category says one thing, and unless the sources say they were injured, it isn't applicable to the current category
American shooting survivors. There is a discussion at Crime WikiProject
here about the use particularly for the category that specifically says people who were survived injury during a shooting.
WikiVirusC(talk) 18:20, 12 March 2018 (UTC)reply
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Tomwsulcer: Will you be making an article for everyone in the news re this issue? Dozens of students and survivors have tweeted, been quoted, etc. You're not doing them a favor by singling them out. A collective coverage at
Never Again MSD would be better.
--Animalparty! (
talk) 00:25, 11 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Your opinion has been roundly disputed in numerous AfD discussions. These people are notable, and you,
gutting the article for dubious reasons, is unacceptable. The tweeting and videos is where the action is at -- it is how the world works these days. And in six months, as more coverage is available, the community will decide what stays and what goes.--
Tomwsulcer (
talk) 00:30, 11 March 2018 (UTC)reply
The article on Sarah and Fredrick is totally inappropriate. Cameron, David and Emma are the only notable students. CookieMonster755✉ 00:48, 11 March 2018 (UTC)reply
You're free of course to put them both up for AfD, but you may have heard a rumor that administrators keep a Santa Claus file -- an off-record file of who's been "naughty or nice", by either contributing to Wikipedia, or wasting everybody's time with pointless AfDs.--
Tomwsulcer (
talk) 01:13, 11 March 2018 (UTC)reply
In this instance, the quotes are a big part of the story -- her tweets, her videos -- that's what her activism has been about. She's particularly good at it, with witty lines and gutsy challenges. And they're not merely quotes, but posts she's made to Twitter that have gotten much media attention as quotes, and are a big part of her considerable notability. That said, if in six months, there's not much else, then maybe that's a good time to review things, and either keep individual articles, or combine them, as the community sees fit.--
Tomwsulcer (
talk) 01:13, 11 March 2018 (UTC)reply
"Survivor"
She (and her group) should not be categorized as shooting survivors. This category is otherwise exclusive to people struck by bullets. She is more suitable in "Crime witnesses", where everyone is much like her.
InedibleHulk(talk) 17:52, 12 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Details in the article can follow the wording from reliable sources, but the category says one thing, and unless the sources say they were injured, it isn't applicable to the current category
American shooting survivors. There is a discussion at Crime WikiProject
here about the use particularly for the category that specifically says people who were survived injury during a shooting.
WikiVirusC(talk) 18:20, 12 March 2018 (UTC)reply