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The sections about the DADT comments and the campaign speeches violate WP:COATRACK. This article is about the 2003 comments. NYyankees51 ( talk) 20:13, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
The title of this article is not "2003 Santorum controversy regarding homosexuality". Nomoskedasticity ( talk) 07:49, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
Y'all know about dispute resolution, I'm sure. I'd suggest if you can't work things out here, you try somewhere like the dispute resolution noticeboard. Regards, Steven Zhang Join the DR army! 05:33, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
I'm a little confused by this: "Santorum defended his remarks, declaring that his comments were not intended to equate homosexuality with incest and adultery, but rather to challenge the specific legal position that the right to privacy prevents the government from regulating consensual acts among adults, a position he disputes, because he does not believe that there is a general constitutional right to privacy.[2]" Nowhere in footnote [2] does it support the lattermost statment that santorum does not believe that there is a general constitutional right to privacy. It appears that this statement comes from the USATODAY footnote [7] . 199.46.196.232 ( talk) 13:35, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
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Please link the words "Santorum's presidential campaign" in the intro text to Rick Santorum presidential campaign, 2012. -- NetRolller 3D 22:27, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
I am proposing that we rename this article. The name 'Santorum controversy regarding homosexuality' is excessively verbose and possibly indicates disapproval of Santorum's views, thus violating WP:NPOV. By using the word 'controversy', it implies a political scandal when in fact this is simply broad public disapproval of Santorum's views on homosexuality. I suggest a title like 'Santorum's views on homosexuality' or 'Santorum and homosexuality'. Debbie W. 05:48, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
Are we headed towards an article that tells readers Santorum's views and comments on this topic (particularly the ones he made in 2003) have not resulted in controversy? Is that impression consistent with what is in reliable sources on this topic? I'd end with "just asking" -- except that I expect to be berated by a POV warrior for having posted a "catcall". What a steaming pile of "abf"... Nomoskedasticity ( talk) 13:07, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
I modified this article to give it a broader scope, and to ensure that it's title followed NPOV guidelines. The article already contained comments by Santorum regarding homosexuality, Don't Ask, Don't Tell, and same-sex parenting which came after his 2003 interview, but the first paragrpah of the article implied that it was only about the 2003 interview. The old article title 'Santorum controversy regarding homosexuality' seemed excessively verbose and biased. While many people despise Santorum's views on homosexuality, I don't think that Wikipedia should refer to it as a controversy. I don't see many other websites using the term 'Santorum controversy.' Debbie W. 07:08, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
The entry says that Jordan produced a recording of her interview with Santorum, but the source cited does not say that. Can anyone track down evidence of a recording being made available? I've added info and citation for the AP release of a transcript of part of the interview. Bmclaughlin9 ( talk) 15:11, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
I think the lead of this article is absolutely appalling. It needs to be rewritten entirely. The lead cannot consist simply of statements such as, "Former Republican U.S. Senator and former U.S. Presidential candidate Rick Santorum, an opponent of LGBT rights in general, has said that he has 'a problem with homosexual acts' and does not believe the right to privacy under the United States Constitution covers sexual acts..." because by themselves they give readers no idea why any of this matters. After all, what it should it matter what the guy thinks of homosexuality? There needs to be context to explain why Santorum's views are controversial, what the significance of the controversy is, what supporters and opponents of his views think, etc. The lead as it stands simply provokes a "so what?" reaction. FreeKnowledgeCreator ( talk) 05:44, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
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The sections about the DADT comments and the campaign speeches violate WP:COATRACK. This article is about the 2003 comments. NYyankees51 ( talk) 20:13, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
The title of this article is not "2003 Santorum controversy regarding homosexuality". Nomoskedasticity ( talk) 07:49, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
Y'all know about dispute resolution, I'm sure. I'd suggest if you can't work things out here, you try somewhere like the dispute resolution noticeboard. Regards, Steven Zhang Join the DR army! 05:33, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
I'm a little confused by this: "Santorum defended his remarks, declaring that his comments were not intended to equate homosexuality with incest and adultery, but rather to challenge the specific legal position that the right to privacy prevents the government from regulating consensual acts among adults, a position he disputes, because he does not believe that there is a general constitutional right to privacy.[2]" Nowhere in footnote [2] does it support the lattermost statment that santorum does not believe that there is a general constitutional right to privacy. It appears that this statement comes from the USATODAY footnote [7] . 199.46.196.232 ( talk) 13:35, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
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Please link the words "Santorum's presidential campaign" in the intro text to Rick Santorum presidential campaign, 2012. -- NetRolller 3D 22:27, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
I am proposing that we rename this article. The name 'Santorum controversy regarding homosexuality' is excessively verbose and possibly indicates disapproval of Santorum's views, thus violating WP:NPOV. By using the word 'controversy', it implies a political scandal when in fact this is simply broad public disapproval of Santorum's views on homosexuality. I suggest a title like 'Santorum's views on homosexuality' or 'Santorum and homosexuality'. Debbie W. 05:48, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
Are we headed towards an article that tells readers Santorum's views and comments on this topic (particularly the ones he made in 2003) have not resulted in controversy? Is that impression consistent with what is in reliable sources on this topic? I'd end with "just asking" -- except that I expect to be berated by a POV warrior for having posted a "catcall". What a steaming pile of "abf"... Nomoskedasticity ( talk) 13:07, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
I modified this article to give it a broader scope, and to ensure that it's title followed NPOV guidelines. The article already contained comments by Santorum regarding homosexuality, Don't Ask, Don't Tell, and same-sex parenting which came after his 2003 interview, but the first paragrpah of the article implied that it was only about the 2003 interview. The old article title 'Santorum controversy regarding homosexuality' seemed excessively verbose and biased. While many people despise Santorum's views on homosexuality, I don't think that Wikipedia should refer to it as a controversy. I don't see many other websites using the term 'Santorum controversy.' Debbie W. 07:08, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
The entry says that Jordan produced a recording of her interview with Santorum, but the source cited does not say that. Can anyone track down evidence of a recording being made available? I've added info and citation for the AP release of a transcript of part of the interview. Bmclaughlin9 ( talk) 15:11, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
I think the lead of this article is absolutely appalling. It needs to be rewritten entirely. The lead cannot consist simply of statements such as, "Former Republican U.S. Senator and former U.S. Presidential candidate Rick Santorum, an opponent of LGBT rights in general, has said that he has 'a problem with homosexual acts' and does not believe the right to privacy under the United States Constitution covers sexual acts..." because by themselves they give readers no idea why any of this matters. After all, what it should it matter what the guy thinks of homosexuality? There needs to be context to explain why Santorum's views are controversial, what the significance of the controversy is, what supporters and opponents of his views think, etc. The lead as it stands simply provokes a "so what?" reaction. FreeKnowledgeCreator ( talk) 05:44, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
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