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I changed the formatting on this page a bit, so it resembles the format used for other marvel comics villains more and now the contents box isnt halfway down the page. This page still needs alot of work though! i'll add the copyedit link thingy. -- Robje 20:46, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
OK... a while ago someone added this rumor to the page. Not long after, someone said that Sam Raimi had denied it. Later, someone removed the whole thing. Then the rumor came back. Can someone either check into this or drop the whole thing? Preferred solution: A description of his actual appearance in the trailer WITHOUT any speculation. - HKMARKS 00:52, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Is is just me or does SandMan have mild color changing abilities, too? Why, you ask? Well, for starters, his torso and legs can be compleatly sandy-brown one minute and have the appearence of a green shirt and tan pants on the next. Should this be mentioned up here? -- MrRandomGuy 07:14, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
I think Venom messed with the Sandman's body when he bite off a piece of Sandman. At least that was the story in Finnish translation. Sandman can't get himself together if some of his sand is missing. Lalli 18:27, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
To answer your question he died and came back like most comic characters. LifeStroke420 ( talk) 23:38, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
75.87.119.195 17:31, 6 May 2007 (UTC)ZeR
Please don't ask why I am asking this here but nobody answered me yet on the symbiote page, but I was wondering if all a symbiote could find is someone like Sandman, would the symbiote be able to bond with him, even if he can cause sand storms and stuff. Please answer!!!! Thanks!!! ManofSTEEL2772 2:52 May 20 2007
The article alternately refers to Sandman as Marko and Baker. As far as I can tell, both are technically accurate, but shouldn't just one be adopted for consistency? As it stands, the article mentions Baker throughout, but doesn't even indicate that that's a name for Sandman until halfway down the page. If Baker is the accepted psuedonym for the character, can we change the rest of the article to reflect that?
I'm not sure if this is the spelling they use in the books, but in actual New York, it's Rikers Island. Croctotheface 08:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
1) Why does the info at the top of the discussion page think this is a movie article? Why does it think this is a stub article?
2) On the main article page, many of the categories are 'Unsorced Statements'. None of these categories appear on the edit page. This confuseth me greatly. What's up with that?
3) In the 1602 section, what's up with the image text? I didn't wipe it out, I wanted to give someone the chance to upload their pic, if in fact that is what the case is.
Lots42 06:42, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
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We seem to have a dispute over this edit. My position is that the Intro is supposed to be a summary of the most salient points of the article. This is explicitly stated in the very beginning of WP:Lead Section. Detailing the character's real name and major aliases, and the fact that he's appeared in many other media adaptations, is a reasonable summary of the article, and consistent with how I notice other fictional characters are covered on WP. As for the bio section, mentioning that he's from Queens, since the source cited for that section mentions it, seems reasonable.
User: User:DCincarnate says that his version of the Intro is consistent with WP:CYF [2], that his birthplace, unless he's someone like Thor or Orion, is irrelevant, [3] and that his edit was agreed upon here. [4] My response is this:
Let's see what everyone else thinks. Nightscream ( talk) 13:55, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your participation, guys. As far as the reference to Queens, when I first wrote that section, I was in the practice of only putting a single citation at the end of the material that relied on the source in question, regardless of how many paragraphs long it was. Now I put citations at the end of each paragraph that relies on the source (is there a policy or guideline that governs this?), so I did so with the paragraphs in that section just now.
As far as birthplace, I don't respectfully don't think that any reasonable person who read the Intro and sees the images, and knows that he's a fictional character by the time they get to the Bio section will think that he is a real person, or that the passage is implying as much, or that it's in-universe. Birth is just another aspect of a character's history, just like his history with Spider-Man. Saying "He was born here" is no more in-universe, IMHO, then "Spider-Man beat him with a vacuum cleaner", since both are things that never "really" happened. Nightscream ( talk) 19:20, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
A intro is supposed to be direct, to the point, and a summary of the article i think that its fine the way it is right now. LifeStroke420 ( talk) 22:23, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
(This neutral comment provided upon request of User Nightscream) IMO - the shorter version takes the need for succintness a little too far; at the expense of the need to make it understandable to a general audience.
The longer version doesn't appear to me to be excessively discursive - the only thing I wonder about it is that it may appear too Spiderman-centric - is there any way to indicate that he tended to pop up as an adversary to various superheroes?
Also, from the perspective of a general audience presentation, IMO, the term 'shapeshifter', I find difficult to understand - also the power description could perhaps be made a little clearer, as turning oneself into sand per se, maybe isn't descriptive enough. Perhaps something like 'the power to transform his body, giving it plastic sand-like properties of various density.' Or a few more terms taken from the powers section.
Cheers,
-- Skyelarke ( talk) 23:33, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
While I see what you mean he is a spiderman foe first and foremost. LifeStroke420 ( talk) 23:38, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Asgardian ( talk) 08:31, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Asgardian ( talk) 15:57, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Asgardian ( talk) 16:45, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't see why this is such a problem. Who are we to decide if it's irrelevant. Isn't that for the writer's to decide? If the writers say he was born in Queens, then shouldn't we follow their cue, since it was they who were trying to establish the setting of his origin? And while this info isn't derived from the MU Handbooks, I do not see how they are unreliable, since they're written by Marvel, published by Marvel, and all of their info is derived from the comics. Does it really take up so much space to say that he's from Queens? Nightscream ( talk) 17:37, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
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Anyone else bugged by statements that mix tenses when they shouldn't? Such as in "He dons a diamond-patterned green costume with a purple headpiece, and battled the Fantastic Four again". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.30.216.184 ( talk) 07:45, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
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I changed the formatting on this page a bit, so it resembles the format used for other marvel comics villains more and now the contents box isnt halfway down the page. This page still needs alot of work though! i'll add the copyedit link thingy. -- Robje 20:46, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
OK... a while ago someone added this rumor to the page. Not long after, someone said that Sam Raimi had denied it. Later, someone removed the whole thing. Then the rumor came back. Can someone either check into this or drop the whole thing? Preferred solution: A description of his actual appearance in the trailer WITHOUT any speculation. - HKMARKS 00:52, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Is is just me or does SandMan have mild color changing abilities, too? Why, you ask? Well, for starters, his torso and legs can be compleatly sandy-brown one minute and have the appearence of a green shirt and tan pants on the next. Should this be mentioned up here? -- MrRandomGuy 07:14, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
I think Venom messed with the Sandman's body when he bite off a piece of Sandman. At least that was the story in Finnish translation. Sandman can't get himself together if some of his sand is missing. Lalli 18:27, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
To answer your question he died and came back like most comic characters. LifeStroke420 ( talk) 23:38, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
75.87.119.195 17:31, 6 May 2007 (UTC)ZeR
Please don't ask why I am asking this here but nobody answered me yet on the symbiote page, but I was wondering if all a symbiote could find is someone like Sandman, would the symbiote be able to bond with him, even if he can cause sand storms and stuff. Please answer!!!! Thanks!!! ManofSTEEL2772 2:52 May 20 2007
The article alternately refers to Sandman as Marko and Baker. As far as I can tell, both are technically accurate, but shouldn't just one be adopted for consistency? As it stands, the article mentions Baker throughout, but doesn't even indicate that that's a name for Sandman until halfway down the page. If Baker is the accepted psuedonym for the character, can we change the rest of the article to reflect that?
I'm not sure if this is the spelling they use in the books, but in actual New York, it's Rikers Island. Croctotheface 08:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
1) Why does the info at the top of the discussion page think this is a movie article? Why does it think this is a stub article?
2) On the main article page, many of the categories are 'Unsorced Statements'. None of these categories appear on the edit page. This confuseth me greatly. What's up with that?
3) In the 1602 section, what's up with the image text? I didn't wipe it out, I wanted to give someone the chance to upload their pic, if in fact that is what the case is.
Lots42 06:42, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 23:01, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
We seem to have a dispute over this edit. My position is that the Intro is supposed to be a summary of the most salient points of the article. This is explicitly stated in the very beginning of WP:Lead Section. Detailing the character's real name and major aliases, and the fact that he's appeared in many other media adaptations, is a reasonable summary of the article, and consistent with how I notice other fictional characters are covered on WP. As for the bio section, mentioning that he's from Queens, since the source cited for that section mentions it, seems reasonable.
User: User:DCincarnate says that his version of the Intro is consistent with WP:CYF [2], that his birthplace, unless he's someone like Thor or Orion, is irrelevant, [3] and that his edit was agreed upon here. [4] My response is this:
Let's see what everyone else thinks. Nightscream ( talk) 13:55, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your participation, guys. As far as the reference to Queens, when I first wrote that section, I was in the practice of only putting a single citation at the end of the material that relied on the source in question, regardless of how many paragraphs long it was. Now I put citations at the end of each paragraph that relies on the source (is there a policy or guideline that governs this?), so I did so with the paragraphs in that section just now.
As far as birthplace, I don't respectfully don't think that any reasonable person who read the Intro and sees the images, and knows that he's a fictional character by the time they get to the Bio section will think that he is a real person, or that the passage is implying as much, or that it's in-universe. Birth is just another aspect of a character's history, just like his history with Spider-Man. Saying "He was born here" is no more in-universe, IMHO, then "Spider-Man beat him with a vacuum cleaner", since both are things that never "really" happened. Nightscream ( talk) 19:20, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
A intro is supposed to be direct, to the point, and a summary of the article i think that its fine the way it is right now. LifeStroke420 ( talk) 22:23, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
(This neutral comment provided upon request of User Nightscream) IMO - the shorter version takes the need for succintness a little too far; at the expense of the need to make it understandable to a general audience.
The longer version doesn't appear to me to be excessively discursive - the only thing I wonder about it is that it may appear too Spiderman-centric - is there any way to indicate that he tended to pop up as an adversary to various superheroes?
Also, from the perspective of a general audience presentation, IMO, the term 'shapeshifter', I find difficult to understand - also the power description could perhaps be made a little clearer, as turning oneself into sand per se, maybe isn't descriptive enough. Perhaps something like 'the power to transform his body, giving it plastic sand-like properties of various density.' Or a few more terms taken from the powers section.
Cheers,
-- Skyelarke ( talk) 23:33, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
While I see what you mean he is a spiderman foe first and foremost. LifeStroke420 ( talk) 23:38, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Asgardian ( talk) 08:31, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Asgardian ( talk) 15:57, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Asgardian ( talk) 16:45, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't see why this is such a problem. Who are we to decide if it's irrelevant. Isn't that for the writer's to decide? If the writers say he was born in Queens, then shouldn't we follow their cue, since it was they who were trying to establish the setting of his origin? And while this info isn't derived from the MU Handbooks, I do not see how they are unreliable, since they're written by Marvel, published by Marvel, and all of their info is derived from the comics. Does it really take up so much space to say that he's from Queens? Nightscream ( talk) 17:37, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Asgardian ( talk) 20:02, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
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Anyone else bugged by statements that mix tenses when they shouldn't? Such as in "He dons a diamond-patterned green costume with a purple headpiece, and battled the Fantastic Four again". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.30.216.184 ( talk) 07:45, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
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