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The result of the move request was: page moved. Themeparkgc Talk 07:38, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
Sam Malone and Diane Chambers →
Sam and Diane –
Removed during copy-edit because this essay isn't about Cheers or Sam and Diane, and only mentions them once in passing: Baffle gab1978 ( talk) 11:58, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
In 2010, Erich Kuersten from Bright Lights Film Journal criticize this couple for agonizing viewers by dragging out their "will they or won't they" relationship for too many seasons. [1]
From 'Analysis'; relies on a source removed below: Marisa Connolly from Georgetown University called Sam and Diane "a pair of frustrated lovers." [2]
Since when were unpublished dissertations considered reliable sources? Also the second source mentions Sam and Diane in Cheers only in passing, in one instance, and with no detailed discussion of Sam and Diane. Baffle gab1978 ( talk) 11:54, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
Reviewers from universities dubbed the relationship a gay male character Will ( Eric McCormack) and a straight female character Grace ( Debra Messing) from Will & Grace as a blend of this Cheers couple and Felix and Oscar from The Odd Couple. [2] [3]
Now this is really clutching at straws – passing mentions of Cheers characters in all three sources (I left the fourth in as it has a more substantial comparison): Baffle gab1978 ( talk) 12:55, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
Media, such as the USA Today [4] and Rocky Mountain News, [5] distinguished between two "Sam and Diane" pairs: the bartender Malone and the barmaid Chambers from Cheers, and two newsanchors Donaldson and Sawyer from the television news program, Primetime Live. Robert Bianco from The Pittsburgh Press remarked that these newsanchors were doing the "inevitable Cheers playful banter" to each other without "downplay[ing]" it. [6]
This whole paragraph is referenced with inconsequential, single-mention articles with no in-depth analysis. Baffle gab1978 ( talk) 00:33, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
Other critics contrasted Sam and Diane to other television pairings. To Bill Harris from Canadian Online Explorer, putting the investigation pair, Detectives Benson ( Mariska Hargitay) and Stabler ( Christopher Meloni), of the crime drama Law & Order: SVU, into romance, despite presumed chemistry between them, would affect the show, as Sam and Diane did to Cheers. [7] Bill Lawrence, creator of Scrubs, assured: J.D. ( Zach Braff) and Elliot ( Sarah Chalke), despite romantic chemistry and storylines together, are not the will-they-won't-they couple, Sam and Diane, and Cheers is not Scrubs. [8] [9] [10]
References
Please reference all plot. I believe primary sources are fine for that, but so far much of the plot fails WP:V/ WP:CITE. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:46, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
![]() | This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
The result of the move request was: page moved. Themeparkgc Talk 07:38, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
Sam Malone and Diane Chambers →
Sam and Diane –
Removed during copy-edit because this essay isn't about Cheers or Sam and Diane, and only mentions them once in passing: Baffle gab1978 ( talk) 11:58, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
In 2010, Erich Kuersten from Bright Lights Film Journal criticize this couple for agonizing viewers by dragging out their "will they or won't they" relationship for too many seasons. [1]
From 'Analysis'; relies on a source removed below: Marisa Connolly from Georgetown University called Sam and Diane "a pair of frustrated lovers." [2]
Since when were unpublished dissertations considered reliable sources? Also the second source mentions Sam and Diane in Cheers only in passing, in one instance, and with no detailed discussion of Sam and Diane. Baffle gab1978 ( talk) 11:54, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
Reviewers from universities dubbed the relationship a gay male character Will ( Eric McCormack) and a straight female character Grace ( Debra Messing) from Will & Grace as a blend of this Cheers couple and Felix and Oscar from The Odd Couple. [2] [3]
Now this is really clutching at straws – passing mentions of Cheers characters in all three sources (I left the fourth in as it has a more substantial comparison): Baffle gab1978 ( talk) 12:55, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
Media, such as the USA Today [4] and Rocky Mountain News, [5] distinguished between two "Sam and Diane" pairs: the bartender Malone and the barmaid Chambers from Cheers, and two newsanchors Donaldson and Sawyer from the television news program, Primetime Live. Robert Bianco from The Pittsburgh Press remarked that these newsanchors were doing the "inevitable Cheers playful banter" to each other without "downplay[ing]" it. [6]
This whole paragraph is referenced with inconsequential, single-mention articles with no in-depth analysis. Baffle gab1978 ( talk) 00:33, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
Other critics contrasted Sam and Diane to other television pairings. To Bill Harris from Canadian Online Explorer, putting the investigation pair, Detectives Benson ( Mariska Hargitay) and Stabler ( Christopher Meloni), of the crime drama Law & Order: SVU, into romance, despite presumed chemistry between them, would affect the show, as Sam and Diane did to Cheers. [7] Bill Lawrence, creator of Scrubs, assured: J.D. ( Zach Braff) and Elliot ( Sarah Chalke), despite romantic chemistry and storylines together, are not the will-they-won't-they couple, Sam and Diane, and Cheers is not Scrubs. [8] [9] [10]
References
Please reference all plot. I believe primary sources are fine for that, but so far much of the plot fails WP:V/ WP:CITE. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:46, 28 March 2013 (UTC)