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Is Salford a city, district or town? Seems to have different meanings. RailwayJG ( talk) 15:36, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
Before 1926 Salford was a town after that it was a city, now it is a city and City of Salford, often shortened to Salford, is a metropolitan borough. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.29.10 ( talk) 19:21, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
I noticed again Salford was changed to district in one edit from city. Yet Salford has had city status since 1926 both the city and it's surrounding borough. I don't see why ever so often editors resort to changing it to district when Salford is the main centre and a city. Like Manchester, Milton Keynes, Doncaster, Leeds, Bradford and York?
It has the city in name and Salford is the main settlement of a city borough for which the settlement is also a city. If editors have issues with city being used a discussion really needs to be had. Not just every few months city to district and district back to city and so forth. DragonofBatley ( talk) 19:01, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
Salford is again being subject to edit warring over being a city. It is a city within its own district. Let's use Lancaster for an example, Lancaster is a city and so is it's district. Same with Leeds in its own district and Peterborough is within its own district.
Like Manchester, Salford is the only other city in the Greater Manchester county and nothing in writing proves it's just a district. Salford is mentioned as a city and the same goes for the two sources provided. Nothing mentions Eccles or Swinton in these two and speaks only about Salford. Which was a county borough prior to City of Salford and was a city before the borough was formed. It being a city in 1926 and from 1974, the borough also becoming a city.
This has been debated a few times and it keeps being which makes no sense.
If the following editors would be willing to contribute to it I'd appreciate it:
@ Keith D:, @ Rcsprinter123:, @ Crouch, Swale:, @ PamD:, @ Murgatroyd49: and @ John Maynard Friedman: DragonofBatley ( talk) 10:03, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
The article contains no civil parishes and was formed around 1974. It previously was made up of five districts and Salford but the article does not have any parishes and the towns/villages are just suburbs of Salford which is the city. I find having two city articles is counter intuitive and given Manchester is one article despite taking over certain areas after 1972 as well. The city is one article and Salford should be just one. Both are cities and to confuse the readers with two articles.
Leads to readers assuming Swinton and Eccles are the city centre. Let us also use Stoke on Trent as another example. Six towns but one article for the wider city. Each settlement has an article but only one city article. This should be the same for Salford and that is having this article merged into Salford and having Swinton Pendlebury Walkden and Eccles added as areas when they are even if many disagree. They form the city and are part of it. So there is no town or parish councils that have protected these settlements town statuses. Thoughts? DragonofBatley ( talk) 03:08, 13 February 2023 (UTC) DragonofBatley ( talk) 03:08, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
The City of Salford is a metropolitan borough in Greater Manchester, England. The borough is named after its main settlement, Salford. This is in line with other articles on locations that are eponymously named settlements and metropolitan boroughs. The argument for merge appears to be confused, and does not explain why civil parishes should be required, nor why the date of creation of the metropolitan borough is relevant. Disagree that readers would assume Swinton and Eccles are the city centre - and in any case, that would be a matter of care to be taken with article content and not a reason to merge. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 08:09, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
Why do we give the pronunciation as /ˈsɒlfərd/ and not /ˈsɒlfəd/? Salford isn't rhotic. Marnanel ( talk) 11:00, 16 June 2023 (UTC) (edit to fix autocorrect)
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Is Salford a city, district or town? Seems to have different meanings. RailwayJG ( talk) 15:36, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
Before 1926 Salford was a town after that it was a city, now it is a city and City of Salford, often shortened to Salford, is a metropolitan borough. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.29.10 ( talk) 19:21, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
I noticed again Salford was changed to district in one edit from city. Yet Salford has had city status since 1926 both the city and it's surrounding borough. I don't see why ever so often editors resort to changing it to district when Salford is the main centre and a city. Like Manchester, Milton Keynes, Doncaster, Leeds, Bradford and York?
It has the city in name and Salford is the main settlement of a city borough for which the settlement is also a city. If editors have issues with city being used a discussion really needs to be had. Not just every few months city to district and district back to city and so forth. DragonofBatley ( talk) 19:01, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
Salford is again being subject to edit warring over being a city. It is a city within its own district. Let's use Lancaster for an example, Lancaster is a city and so is it's district. Same with Leeds in its own district and Peterborough is within its own district.
Like Manchester, Salford is the only other city in the Greater Manchester county and nothing in writing proves it's just a district. Salford is mentioned as a city and the same goes for the two sources provided. Nothing mentions Eccles or Swinton in these two and speaks only about Salford. Which was a county borough prior to City of Salford and was a city before the borough was formed. It being a city in 1926 and from 1974, the borough also becoming a city.
This has been debated a few times and it keeps being which makes no sense.
If the following editors would be willing to contribute to it I'd appreciate it:
@ Keith D:, @ Rcsprinter123:, @ Crouch, Swale:, @ PamD:, @ Murgatroyd49: and @ John Maynard Friedman: DragonofBatley ( talk) 10:03, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
The article contains no civil parishes and was formed around 1974. It previously was made up of five districts and Salford but the article does not have any parishes and the towns/villages are just suburbs of Salford which is the city. I find having two city articles is counter intuitive and given Manchester is one article despite taking over certain areas after 1972 as well. The city is one article and Salford should be just one. Both are cities and to confuse the readers with two articles.
Leads to readers assuming Swinton and Eccles are the city centre. Let us also use Stoke on Trent as another example. Six towns but one article for the wider city. Each settlement has an article but only one city article. This should be the same for Salford and that is having this article merged into Salford and having Swinton Pendlebury Walkden and Eccles added as areas when they are even if many disagree. They form the city and are part of it. So there is no town or parish councils that have protected these settlements town statuses. Thoughts? DragonofBatley ( talk) 03:08, 13 February 2023 (UTC) DragonofBatley ( talk) 03:08, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
The City of Salford is a metropolitan borough in Greater Manchester, England. The borough is named after its main settlement, Salford. This is in line with other articles on locations that are eponymously named settlements and metropolitan boroughs. The argument for merge appears to be confused, and does not explain why civil parishes should be required, nor why the date of creation of the metropolitan borough is relevant. Disagree that readers would assume Swinton and Eccles are the city centre - and in any case, that would be a matter of care to be taken with article content and not a reason to merge. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 08:09, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
Why do we give the pronunciation as /ˈsɒlfərd/ and not /ˈsɒlfəd/? Salford isn't rhotic. Marnanel ( talk) 11:00, 16 June 2023 (UTC) (edit to fix autocorrect)