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The article states that Ric Ocasek was born March 23rd, 1949. It also states that he graduated from Maple Heights High School in 1963. If both of those dates are correct that means he graduated from High School a couple months after turning 14. I suggest that at least one of those dates must be wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kyle kursk ( talk • contribs) 21:07, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
There have been multiple edits over the last few days concerning age. (1946/1949) However the current edit still must be wrong. It states that he moved from Baltimore to Cleveland when he was 16 with his family. (1949+16=1965) It then states that he graduated from high school in Maple Heights (Cleveland) in 1963. How did he graduated from a high school two years before he moved to where the high school is. Either the listed birth age of 1949 is wrong, or the listed graduation year of 1963 is wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kyle kursk ( talk • contribs) 03:58, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
Ok, thank you for the explanation. I went the "Talk" page route, instead of making any changes to the actual article because I wasn't sure of the facts. I had looked up the Wikipedia on various members of the Cars since it was in the news that they were being inducted to the Rock Hall. Glancing at the bio info, and the article for Ric Ocasek, I did a double take when I realized the numbers didn't add up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kyle kursk ( talk • contribs) 00:27, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
When he attended high school is pretty relevant, I would say. He wasn't a child prodigy, so he didn't graduate in 1963 at the age of 14. Most likely he had been held back a year somewhere during his school years or started school a year later, and this is why he graduated in 1963 and not 1962. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.56.31.15 ( talk • contribs) 14:38, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Here is a cut and paste from the Wikipedia guideline on Original Research. “This policy of no original research does not apply to talk pages and other pages which evaluate article content and sources, such as deletion discussions or policy noticeboards.” I clearly stated in my comments on “The Talk Page” that I didn’t post or edit anything in the actual wiki article. I was merely pointing out the mathematical impossibility of what was stated as fact in the wiki article. That way whoever published/edits the wiki article could address the error. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kyle kursk ( talk • contribs) 14:20, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
LIBRARY OF CONGRESS, people: 1949--> http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/n88615966.html Gerntrash ( talk) 01:39, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
The Library of Congress source cites IMDB for his birth date, which is patently unreliable. If that's the best you have for 70, there's not much of a case for it. Nohomersryan ( talk) 01:50, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
"even though it's a blacklisted website" - So... it's blacklisted. MEaning it can't be used. Gerntrash ( talk) 01:54, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
"The Library of Congress source cites IMDB ..." It ALSO cites "His This side of paradise, c1986:t.p. (Ric Ocasek)" Gerntrash ( talk) 01:56, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Another source I found myheritage.com also confirms 1964 as the year of birth of Ric's first son Christopher, meaning that Ric was clearly born in 1944 and not 1949. The Christopher Otcasek listed as a 1959 birth on that website can't be his son, he would've been too young to become a father. 107.218.152.97 ( talk) 02:01, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Baltimore Sun [1] says 1949. Gerntrash ( talk) 02:11, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
@Nohomersryan said "You mean This Side of Paradise?" No. The LOC says "His" for authorship. He published a book of lyrics and poetry with the title "This Side of Paradise," not the album. The "t.p." in the record means "Title Page". Gerntrash ( talk) 02:17, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
The cars. (2001). In P. Hardy, The Faber companion to 20th century popular music (3rd ed.). London, UK: Faber and Faber Ltd. states: "Ric Ocasek, b. Richard Otcasek, 23 March 1949, Baltimore, Maryland, USA..." Gerntrash ( talk) 02:27, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
The New York Times in Chronicle: Honors for belafonte and poitier paulina porizkova's a mother what if they gave two dance evenings and 6% of the city showed up? (1993, Nov 17). New York Times (1923-Current File) cites Ocasek as 44 years old on Nov 17, 1993. That makes his birth date 1949. So, The New York Times, The Library of Congress, The Baltimore Sun, and The Faber companion to 20th century popular music, among other sources, list his birth year as 1949. Gerntrash ( talk) 02:39, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
From The Standard; Warrnambool, Vic. [Warrnambool, Vic] 23 Mar 2015: p. 10. : "Ric Ocasek: US singer-producer, The Cars (1949)" Gerntrash ( talk) 02:47, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
@Nohomersryan said: "Now that police have stepped in to confirm his death" - You did not cite a police report. They said he is dead. They didn't say when he was born. Gerntrash ( talk) 02:49, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
"Former Cars front man Ocasek was born Richard Otcasek in 1949 in Baltimore. Ocasek was part of a strict Catholic family who lived in Baltimore until 1965, moving to Cleveland when Ric was 16." From: Croft, Clare. "Baltimore Rocks (... and Raps ... and Scats) ; Find Out which Musicians Once Called Charm City Home.; Music & Nightlife: BALTIMORESUN.COM Edition]." The Sun, Aug 15, 2005, pp. 1. Gerntrash ( talk) 02:52, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
The New York City police department said officers responding to a 911 call found the 75-year-old Ocasek at about 4 p.m. on Sunday. They said there was no sign of foul play and that the medical examiner was to determine a cause of death. - from AP, which, to my reading, makes it sound like the age comes from the NYPD. Nohomersryan ( talk) 02:55, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
That does not say the age came from the NYPD. Furthermore, if he moved to Cleveland when he was 16 in 1965, that makes his birth year 1949. Six reliable sources cited. Gerntrash ( talk) 03:35, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Between multiple sources citing his first son being born in 1964, high school graduation in 1963, and the fact that musicians lying about age to support a specific persona is/was fairly commonplace, it seems fairly obvious what's going on here. Leaving both dates up until reliable sources appear makes sense though. ExtremeSquared ( talk) 05:01, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
That is correct. Online copies of his high school yearbooks, excluding senior yearbook, are available to see on Classmates. SN 16 September 2019 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.56.31.15 ( talk) 14:40, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
It is absurd for anyone to keep insisting that he could have been born in 1949. From the article- "When Ocasek was 16 years old, his family moved to Cleveland, Ohio, where he graduated from Maple Heights High School in 1963." If you insist that he was born in 1949, and he moved when he was 16, (1949+16=1965) then you are trying to say that he graduated from a high school two years before he ever lived there! At age 14!
Either through vanity or at the suggestion of management, celebrities have always lied about their ages. Just because some publications printed the false age early in his career doesn't make it true, or change the laws of mathematics. Kyle kursk ( talk) 12:42, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
That is correct and consistent with his high school attendance.
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Here is the direct release from the NYPD: [2] "Richard Otcasek aka 'Ric Ocasek', 75". Seems pretty open and shut now. I think "disputed" should be removed in lieu of a note that mentions he was commonly mentioned as being born in 1949, if no one has any objections at this point. Nohomersryan ( talk) 23:21, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Worth reading for those involved with this discussion, The New York Times has a Times Insider piece up on how they verified Ocasek's age as 75, not 70, and how the incorrect age came to be circulated. Doc Strange Mailbox Logbook 20:42, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
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Change his age from 75 to 70 under the personal life and death section: https://pagesix.com/2019/09/15/the-cars-frontman-ric-ocasek-found-dead-in-manhattan-townhouse/ 2604:6000:1011:4687:E9A6:247C:E3B0:86F1 ( talk) 01:21, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
You erroneously say he was 70 when he died at the end of the article. He was 75. 165.225.0.77 ( talk) 01:35, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Ric Ocasek was 70. He was born March 23, 1949 and died September 15, 2019. 108.29.20.192 ( talk) 01:42, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
All sources of Ric's birthday point to the media, who are unreliable source. This source in the Library of Congress is hard evidence that Ric was born in 1949. http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/n88615966.html 194.36.17.147 ( talk) 01:50, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
If Ric Ocasek was born in 1949, he was not 75 when he died. One of the numbers is wrong. Her22372 ( talk) 12:31, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
This is discussed above in the "Age?" section: /info/en/?search=Talk:Ric_Ocasek#Age? Gerntrash ( talk) 12:48, 16 September 2019 (UTC) He has a son who is older than me - and I'm 54. So, I'm guessing he was 75. I doubt he had a son at age of 15. Perhaps he keep his age a mystery because when the Cars broke in the late 70s he was in his mid thirites - which was, in those days, considered old for Rock & Roll. But not anymore of course. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:46:8200:450E:5D6:67EF:5E07:DB05 ( talk) 13:20, 16 September 2019 (UTC) |
Any relation to Oliver Ocasek (November 2, 1925 – June 25, 1999) who served as President of the Ohio State Senate in the 1970s and 1980s?--Artaxerxes 13:41, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
No relation to OH State Senator Oliver Ocasek, whose grandfather was born in present day Hodonín, Blansko, South Moravia, Czechia. The ancestral village of Ric Ocasek's paternal line is present day Skomelno, Rokycany, Plzeň, Czechia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.72.224.164 ( talk) 11:34, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
Ocasek's father was a NASA systems analyst, he was married to his first wife Constance (or "Constan") née Campbell from 1963-71, [1] Pauline's parents fled the Communist regime in Czechoslovakia, son Eron is an actor, son Adam is an art director and graphic designer, son Oliver's main interest is music. [2] He leaves five grandchildren. [3]--Artaxerxes 02:49, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
What are his parents' names?-- Artaxerxes ( talk) 15:15, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
According to the Ric Ocasek page in Czech Wikipedia ( https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ric_Ocasek): "His grandparents came from Czechoslovakia"-- Artaxerxes ( talk) 16:32, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
"Ocasek" is pronounced "oh-KAY-sick." Not "oh-CASS-ick." Fix it. Source: Any news report or interview on YouTube.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:600:8280:58f0:a433:3a1e:aacc:ef5f ( talk • contribs)
Should the article point out how old he was when he had his first marriage? Vorbee ( talk) 15:27, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
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The wire story I read in the local paper about Ocasek's death, I believe from the Washington Post but I can't confirm it as their site is blocking me, stated that his birth name was Ritchard Otcasek. Note the divergent spelling of first name that no one else appears to be acknowledging. Just thought I'd throw that out. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 01:34, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
In the 1993 film "Fear of a Black Hat" , the band N.W.H. , tries its hand at doing a more "mainstream" musical collaboration - ala Run DMC & Aerosmyth - and team up with Ric for a cover of The Tubes song , "White Punks On Dope". ( Re-titled, "White Cops On Dope".). The scene did not make the final cut of the film ,but,the music video does appear as a bonus feature on the DVD release,as well as appearing on the soundtrack album. 75.104.163.41 ( talk) 02:17, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
Are we sure? 73.6.96.168 ( talk) 01:16, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
I first saw Mr. Ocasek late one night in the 1980s, when I worked at City Market in Aspen, Colorado. He seemed stoned out of his mind, so, as we were used to dealing with famous people, unless one might have done something unacceptable, I let him be. Years later, after returning to Long Island, where I was studying at LIU, I saw Mr. Ocasek again at Kennedy Airport, where, because my girlfriend's family had not shown up in order to meet us, he offered us a ride to Huntington Village. As I remember, he had an SUV or a minivan, because it was roomy. He was with his wife and at least one of his kids. I told him about our meeting in Aspen, but he kind of shrugged it off. I found him to be very pleasant, courteous, and simply the nicest famous person whom I had ever met. - Bryce "Jack" Combs — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.89.101.59 ( talk) 00:32, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
After some back and forth over sourcing, I've removed the claims about the subject's ancestry because of OR problems. We can't do that kind of synthesis of primary sources. If there is not reliable secondary sourcing discussing this, it should be left out. Nikkimaria ( talk) 03:30, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
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Ocasek's own book Lyrics & Prose says nothing about having Czech or Polish ancestry. He says he went to Catholic school in Baltimore and was an altar boy until he annoyed the nuns once too often. All the 1980s and '90s tabloids talking about Czech-born model Paulina Porizkova's relationship with Ocasek fail to mention anything about Ocasek's ancestry at the same time they emphasize her birthplace. [3] [4] Clearly they did not know Ocasek's family background. Binksternet ( talk) 17:00, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
@ Irobertz recently added five photos of Ocasek to the page, several of which are blurry and poorly framed (no offense to whoever created them). I don't think they add to the understanding of the topic because they were all apparently taken around the same time, and in the case of #1 and #2 above, apparently on the same day at the same venue. The top half of this article is now so packed with photos that it borders on WP:CRUFT. I suggest that two or all three of these photos be deleted. If I had to choose one to keep, I would pick #2 because at least Ocasek is centered in the frame. Carguychris ( talk) 15:31, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
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The article states that Ric Ocasek was born March 23rd, 1949. It also states that he graduated from Maple Heights High School in 1963. If both of those dates are correct that means he graduated from High School a couple months after turning 14. I suggest that at least one of those dates must be wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kyle kursk ( talk • contribs) 21:07, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
There have been multiple edits over the last few days concerning age. (1946/1949) However the current edit still must be wrong. It states that he moved from Baltimore to Cleveland when he was 16 with his family. (1949+16=1965) It then states that he graduated from high school in Maple Heights (Cleveland) in 1963. How did he graduated from a high school two years before he moved to where the high school is. Either the listed birth age of 1949 is wrong, or the listed graduation year of 1963 is wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kyle kursk ( talk • contribs) 03:58, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
Ok, thank you for the explanation. I went the "Talk" page route, instead of making any changes to the actual article because I wasn't sure of the facts. I had looked up the Wikipedia on various members of the Cars since it was in the news that they were being inducted to the Rock Hall. Glancing at the bio info, and the article for Ric Ocasek, I did a double take when I realized the numbers didn't add up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kyle kursk ( talk • contribs) 00:27, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
When he attended high school is pretty relevant, I would say. He wasn't a child prodigy, so he didn't graduate in 1963 at the age of 14. Most likely he had been held back a year somewhere during his school years or started school a year later, and this is why he graduated in 1963 and not 1962. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.56.31.15 ( talk • contribs) 14:38, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Here is a cut and paste from the Wikipedia guideline on Original Research. “This policy of no original research does not apply to talk pages and other pages which evaluate article content and sources, such as deletion discussions or policy noticeboards.” I clearly stated in my comments on “The Talk Page” that I didn’t post or edit anything in the actual wiki article. I was merely pointing out the mathematical impossibility of what was stated as fact in the wiki article. That way whoever published/edits the wiki article could address the error. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kyle kursk ( talk • contribs) 14:20, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
LIBRARY OF CONGRESS, people: 1949--> http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/n88615966.html Gerntrash ( talk) 01:39, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
The Library of Congress source cites IMDB for his birth date, which is patently unreliable. If that's the best you have for 70, there's not much of a case for it. Nohomersryan ( talk) 01:50, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
"even though it's a blacklisted website" - So... it's blacklisted. MEaning it can't be used. Gerntrash ( talk) 01:54, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
"The Library of Congress source cites IMDB ..." It ALSO cites "His This side of paradise, c1986:t.p. (Ric Ocasek)" Gerntrash ( talk) 01:56, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Another source I found myheritage.com also confirms 1964 as the year of birth of Ric's first son Christopher, meaning that Ric was clearly born in 1944 and not 1949. The Christopher Otcasek listed as a 1959 birth on that website can't be his son, he would've been too young to become a father. 107.218.152.97 ( talk) 02:01, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Baltimore Sun [1] says 1949. Gerntrash ( talk) 02:11, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
@Nohomersryan said "You mean This Side of Paradise?" No. The LOC says "His" for authorship. He published a book of lyrics and poetry with the title "This Side of Paradise," not the album. The "t.p." in the record means "Title Page". Gerntrash ( talk) 02:17, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
The cars. (2001). In P. Hardy, The Faber companion to 20th century popular music (3rd ed.). London, UK: Faber and Faber Ltd. states: "Ric Ocasek, b. Richard Otcasek, 23 March 1949, Baltimore, Maryland, USA..." Gerntrash ( talk) 02:27, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
The New York Times in Chronicle: Honors for belafonte and poitier paulina porizkova's a mother what if they gave two dance evenings and 6% of the city showed up? (1993, Nov 17). New York Times (1923-Current File) cites Ocasek as 44 years old on Nov 17, 1993. That makes his birth date 1949. So, The New York Times, The Library of Congress, The Baltimore Sun, and The Faber companion to 20th century popular music, among other sources, list his birth year as 1949. Gerntrash ( talk) 02:39, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
From The Standard; Warrnambool, Vic. [Warrnambool, Vic] 23 Mar 2015: p. 10. : "Ric Ocasek: US singer-producer, The Cars (1949)" Gerntrash ( talk) 02:47, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
@Nohomersryan said: "Now that police have stepped in to confirm his death" - You did not cite a police report. They said he is dead. They didn't say when he was born. Gerntrash ( talk) 02:49, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
"Former Cars front man Ocasek was born Richard Otcasek in 1949 in Baltimore. Ocasek was part of a strict Catholic family who lived in Baltimore until 1965, moving to Cleveland when Ric was 16." From: Croft, Clare. "Baltimore Rocks (... and Raps ... and Scats) ; Find Out which Musicians Once Called Charm City Home.; Music & Nightlife: BALTIMORESUN.COM Edition]." The Sun, Aug 15, 2005, pp. 1. Gerntrash ( talk) 02:52, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
The New York City police department said officers responding to a 911 call found the 75-year-old Ocasek at about 4 p.m. on Sunday. They said there was no sign of foul play and that the medical examiner was to determine a cause of death. - from AP, which, to my reading, makes it sound like the age comes from the NYPD. Nohomersryan ( talk) 02:55, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
That does not say the age came from the NYPD. Furthermore, if he moved to Cleveland when he was 16 in 1965, that makes his birth year 1949. Six reliable sources cited. Gerntrash ( talk) 03:35, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Between multiple sources citing his first son being born in 1964, high school graduation in 1963, and the fact that musicians lying about age to support a specific persona is/was fairly commonplace, it seems fairly obvious what's going on here. Leaving both dates up until reliable sources appear makes sense though. ExtremeSquared ( talk) 05:01, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
That is correct. Online copies of his high school yearbooks, excluding senior yearbook, are available to see on Classmates. SN 16 September 2019 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.56.31.15 ( talk) 14:40, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
It is absurd for anyone to keep insisting that he could have been born in 1949. From the article- "When Ocasek was 16 years old, his family moved to Cleveland, Ohio, where he graduated from Maple Heights High School in 1963." If you insist that he was born in 1949, and he moved when he was 16, (1949+16=1965) then you are trying to say that he graduated from a high school two years before he ever lived there! At age 14!
Either through vanity or at the suggestion of management, celebrities have always lied about their ages. Just because some publications printed the false age early in his career doesn't make it true, or change the laws of mathematics. Kyle kursk ( talk) 12:42, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
That is correct and consistent with his high school attendance.
According to User:NinjaRobotPirate, WikiPedia can't use primary sources. 64.134.220.14 ( talk) 16:54, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
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Here is the direct release from the NYPD: [2] "Richard Otcasek aka 'Ric Ocasek', 75". Seems pretty open and shut now. I think "disputed" should be removed in lieu of a note that mentions he was commonly mentioned as being born in 1949, if no one has any objections at this point. Nohomersryan ( talk) 23:21, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Worth reading for those involved with this discussion, The New York Times has a Times Insider piece up on how they verified Ocasek's age as 75, not 70, and how the incorrect age came to be circulated. Doc Strange Mailbox Logbook 20:42, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
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Change his age from 75 to 70 under the personal life and death section: https://pagesix.com/2019/09/15/the-cars-frontman-ric-ocasek-found-dead-in-manhattan-townhouse/ 2604:6000:1011:4687:E9A6:247C:E3B0:86F1 ( talk) 01:21, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
You erroneously say he was 70 when he died at the end of the article. He was 75. 165.225.0.77 ( talk) 01:35, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Ric Ocasek was 70. He was born March 23, 1949 and died September 15, 2019. 108.29.20.192 ( talk) 01:42, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
All sources of Ric's birthday point to the media, who are unreliable source. This source in the Library of Congress is hard evidence that Ric was born in 1949. http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/n88615966.html 194.36.17.147 ( talk) 01:50, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
If Ric Ocasek was born in 1949, he was not 75 when he died. One of the numbers is wrong. Her22372 ( talk) 12:31, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
This is discussed above in the "Age?" section: /info/en/?search=Talk:Ric_Ocasek#Age? Gerntrash ( talk) 12:48, 16 September 2019 (UTC) He has a son who is older than me - and I'm 54. So, I'm guessing he was 75. I doubt he had a son at age of 15. Perhaps he keep his age a mystery because when the Cars broke in the late 70s he was in his mid thirites - which was, in those days, considered old for Rock & Roll. But not anymore of course. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:46:8200:450E:5D6:67EF:5E07:DB05 ( talk) 13:20, 16 September 2019 (UTC) |
Any relation to Oliver Ocasek (November 2, 1925 – June 25, 1999) who served as President of the Ohio State Senate in the 1970s and 1980s?--Artaxerxes 13:41, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
No relation to OH State Senator Oliver Ocasek, whose grandfather was born in present day Hodonín, Blansko, South Moravia, Czechia. The ancestral village of Ric Ocasek's paternal line is present day Skomelno, Rokycany, Plzeň, Czechia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.72.224.164 ( talk) 11:34, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
Ocasek's father was a NASA systems analyst, he was married to his first wife Constance (or "Constan") née Campbell from 1963-71, [1] Pauline's parents fled the Communist regime in Czechoslovakia, son Eron is an actor, son Adam is an art director and graphic designer, son Oliver's main interest is music. [2] He leaves five grandchildren. [3]--Artaxerxes 02:49, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
What are his parents' names?-- Artaxerxes ( talk) 15:15, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
According to the Ric Ocasek page in Czech Wikipedia ( https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ric_Ocasek): "His grandparents came from Czechoslovakia"-- Artaxerxes ( talk) 16:32, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
"Ocasek" is pronounced "oh-KAY-sick." Not "oh-CASS-ick." Fix it. Source: Any news report or interview on YouTube.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:600:8280:58f0:a433:3a1e:aacc:ef5f ( talk • contribs)
Should the article point out how old he was when he had his first marriage? Vorbee ( talk) 15:27, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
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The wire story I read in the local paper about Ocasek's death, I believe from the Washington Post but I can't confirm it as their site is blocking me, stated that his birth name was Ritchard Otcasek. Note the divergent spelling of first name that no one else appears to be acknowledging. Just thought I'd throw that out. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 01:34, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
In the 1993 film "Fear of a Black Hat" , the band N.W.H. , tries its hand at doing a more "mainstream" musical collaboration - ala Run DMC & Aerosmyth - and team up with Ric for a cover of The Tubes song , "White Punks On Dope". ( Re-titled, "White Cops On Dope".). The scene did not make the final cut of the film ,but,the music video does appear as a bonus feature on the DVD release,as well as appearing on the soundtrack album. 75.104.163.41 ( talk) 02:17, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
Are we sure? 73.6.96.168 ( talk) 01:16, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
I first saw Mr. Ocasek late one night in the 1980s, when I worked at City Market in Aspen, Colorado. He seemed stoned out of his mind, so, as we were used to dealing with famous people, unless one might have done something unacceptable, I let him be. Years later, after returning to Long Island, where I was studying at LIU, I saw Mr. Ocasek again at Kennedy Airport, where, because my girlfriend's family had not shown up in order to meet us, he offered us a ride to Huntington Village. As I remember, he had an SUV or a minivan, because it was roomy. He was with his wife and at least one of his kids. I told him about our meeting in Aspen, but he kind of shrugged it off. I found him to be very pleasant, courteous, and simply the nicest famous person whom I had ever met. - Bryce "Jack" Combs — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.89.101.59 ( talk) 00:32, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
After some back and forth over sourcing, I've removed the claims about the subject's ancestry because of OR problems. We can't do that kind of synthesis of primary sources. If there is not reliable secondary sourcing discussing this, it should be left out. Nikkimaria ( talk) 03:30, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
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Ocasek's own book Lyrics & Prose says nothing about having Czech or Polish ancestry. He says he went to Catholic school in Baltimore and was an altar boy until he annoyed the nuns once too often. All the 1980s and '90s tabloids talking about Czech-born model Paulina Porizkova's relationship with Ocasek fail to mention anything about Ocasek's ancestry at the same time they emphasize her birthplace. [3] [4] Clearly they did not know Ocasek's family background. Binksternet ( talk) 17:00, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
@ Irobertz recently added five photos of Ocasek to the page, several of which are blurry and poorly framed (no offense to whoever created them). I don't think they add to the understanding of the topic because they were all apparently taken around the same time, and in the case of #1 and #2 above, apparently on the same day at the same venue. The top half of this article is now so packed with photos that it borders on WP:CRUFT. I suggest that two or all three of these photos be deleted. If I had to choose one to keep, I would pick #2 because at least Ocasek is centered in the frame. Carguychris ( talk) 15:31, 11 July 2024 (UTC)