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i can't find anything definitive about whether russian or 1000 island is more traditional. (i've always thought it was russian.)
Generic Player 08:04, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
In sandwich shops near where I live (Portland), a Rachel is a vegetarian or vegan Reuben. Can anyone provide some corroboration for the other usage? If not, I'll go ahead and change it in a couple days. 71.193.152.63 01:56, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
To the best of my knowledge the Rachael sandwich did not exist in the suburban Boston, Massachusetts area prior to 1974. My father was in the restaurant business in Randolph, MA. He opened up his second restraurant in the area. This restaurant was a Jewish style deli called Goodies Pub. It was located on Mazzeo Drive in Randolph. I have the original menu from the opening listing the sandwich. The Rachael sandwich was coined by my father, Jerry Goodman in memory of his mother, Rachael Goodman, maiden name, Tonkin who died around 1965 and put on the menu. I have not been able to find any reference to the sandwich before this time period. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drdgoodman ( talk • contribs) 13:12, 24 March 2013 (UTC) Drdgoodman ( talk) 13:15, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
Monterey Jack cheese is what I'm used to in Reubens out here in the Intermountain West. Is this unusual? The Jade Knight ( talk) 02:46, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but this page is wrong. What is called "Russian dressing" today is different than what it used to be. Thousand Island dressing is called "Russian" in the Northeast, particularly around NYC. The name Thousand Island is supposedly a newer name. It even says that the two recipes were indistinguishable in the 19th century on the Russian Dressing page. There's also two external links here and here which suggest the Russian dressing is just mayonnaise, and that both dressings grew more and more similar over the years until bottled dressing companies decided to invent a distinction. 72.78.1.31 ( talk) 22:36, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
I have re-added this section with two appropriate references. I can provide many, many more as need be. The Rachel is a very real and widely served variant on the traditional Reuben, and is not, as suggested by User:JBsupreme, a "a silly variant on their menu". Based on comments on this talk page, I understand that the term "Rachel" may refer to more than one type of Reuben variant; if anyone can produce sourced evidence suggesting alternate compositions for the Rachel, please add them with the appropriate reference. As for the Arby's reference, it refers to another notable Reuben variant invented and sold by a major international restaurant chain. User:JBsupreme, based on the addition of these new references, please do not remove the sourced material without discussion this page, as removal of sourced material is considered disruptive editing. Thank you. Bullzeye (Ring for Service) 01:23, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Due to the increase in popularity of American food in the United Kingdom, The Reuben sandwich has become a popular dish in Café's and Diners. The Sandwich maintains the same ingredients, though under a different name. The common phrase for the reuben sandwich in England is the Sándsqwîtch (Pronounced Sand-sweat-ch). The understanding of this term is unknown, however it is believed to be a variant of the word Sandwich. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.233.120.181 ( talk) 15:02, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
The image shown at right, File:Reubensandwich.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. It has been repeatedly removed from this article, by several different editors, who all considered it disgusting-looking. Since it seemed to me that there was little use for a picture of a Reuben sandwich that was deemed to be unsuitable for the Reuben sandwich article, I proposed the image for deletion. Please see the discussion if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. — Dominus ( talk) 14:26, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
All the Reubens that I've had have been pastrami and sauerkraut. Is that just a New York thing? 24.47.154.230 ( talk) 10:13, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
I've always made mine with corned beef hash, swiss cheese, sauerkraut, miracle whip, horseradish, & mustard on dark rye. 67.90.227.66 ( talk) 06:44, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
Recently an anonymous editor added a small section about a "grouper Reuben". The addition cited a reliable source that stated that the grouper Reuben was a regional specialty in Florida. Shortly after, Kintetsubuffalo ( talk · contribs) reverted this addition. No reason was given. Well-sourced, relevant material should not be deleted without discussion, so I have restored the material. — Mark Dominus ( talk) 17:14, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
I see that on 26 October 2013, Kintetsubuffalo ( talk · contribs) again deleted the properly-sourced material without consensus and without discussing the deletion on the talk page. I would like to remind everyone this this is expressly in violation of Wikipedia policy, and if it happens again I will report the offender to the admins. I have restored the deleted section. — Mark Dominus ( talk) 21:50, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
For a Rachel, substitute turkey for the corned beef.
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In Florida … many restaurants serve a grouper Reuben
I'm going to remove the recently-added "Chicago Reuben" section unless someone adds references to show that it is widespread and well-known, at least in Chicago, or objects to the removal here. — Mark Dominus ( talk) 17:02, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
I thought Reuben sandwiches could also use mustard as a condiment instead of Russian or 1000 Island. The photo clearly shows mustard as the condiment, as it is yellow [and not pink, which is known to be Russian/1000 Island dressing]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gizziiusa ( talk • contribs) 16:16, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
"The vegan's can substitute with a vegan dressing and cheese"?
Vegan don't eat dairy as it is made from milk taken from cows, vegetarians would — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.22.96.239 ( talk) 04:01, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
Similar sandwiches were made in France, Prussia, and Austria-Hungary. Montreal improved on it by being more generous with the meat. Many of the American imitations were considered to be niggardly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.229.115.207 ( talk) 16:15, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
All of the photos have a huge amount of meat in them, far more than any generous serving of meat in any sandwich I've ever seen (same goes for the pastrami page). At first, I though it was a joke, like the food on "This is why you're fat". If I go anywhere in New York and order this sandwich, will I get that much meat? 122.59.225.50 ( talk) 05:58, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
The article says that the lobster Reuben is served in the Florida Keys, but it seems to be more widespread than that; Google News search found mentions of it in other lobster zones such as Miami, Maine, and Massachusetts; also Reno NV.
I am beginning to think that all these sections should be collapsed into a single section that says that there are many variations that replace the corned beef with various proteins, and then lists a few prominent ones, including the Rachel. — Mark Dominus ( talk) 15:40, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
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i can't find anything definitive about whether russian or 1000 island is more traditional. (i've always thought it was russian.)
Generic Player 08:04, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
In sandwich shops near where I live (Portland), a Rachel is a vegetarian or vegan Reuben. Can anyone provide some corroboration for the other usage? If not, I'll go ahead and change it in a couple days. 71.193.152.63 01:56, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
To the best of my knowledge the Rachael sandwich did not exist in the suburban Boston, Massachusetts area prior to 1974. My father was in the restaurant business in Randolph, MA. He opened up his second restraurant in the area. This restaurant was a Jewish style deli called Goodies Pub. It was located on Mazzeo Drive in Randolph. I have the original menu from the opening listing the sandwich. The Rachael sandwich was coined by my father, Jerry Goodman in memory of his mother, Rachael Goodman, maiden name, Tonkin who died around 1965 and put on the menu. I have not been able to find any reference to the sandwich before this time period. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drdgoodman ( talk • contribs) 13:12, 24 March 2013 (UTC) Drdgoodman ( talk) 13:15, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
Monterey Jack cheese is what I'm used to in Reubens out here in the Intermountain West. Is this unusual? The Jade Knight ( talk) 02:46, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but this page is wrong. What is called "Russian dressing" today is different than what it used to be. Thousand Island dressing is called "Russian" in the Northeast, particularly around NYC. The name Thousand Island is supposedly a newer name. It even says that the two recipes were indistinguishable in the 19th century on the Russian Dressing page. There's also two external links here and here which suggest the Russian dressing is just mayonnaise, and that both dressings grew more and more similar over the years until bottled dressing companies decided to invent a distinction. 72.78.1.31 ( talk) 22:36, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
I have re-added this section with two appropriate references. I can provide many, many more as need be. The Rachel is a very real and widely served variant on the traditional Reuben, and is not, as suggested by User:JBsupreme, a "a silly variant on their menu". Based on comments on this talk page, I understand that the term "Rachel" may refer to more than one type of Reuben variant; if anyone can produce sourced evidence suggesting alternate compositions for the Rachel, please add them with the appropriate reference. As for the Arby's reference, it refers to another notable Reuben variant invented and sold by a major international restaurant chain. User:JBsupreme, based on the addition of these new references, please do not remove the sourced material without discussion this page, as removal of sourced material is considered disruptive editing. Thank you. Bullzeye (Ring for Service) 01:23, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Due to the increase in popularity of American food in the United Kingdom, The Reuben sandwich has become a popular dish in Café's and Diners. The Sandwich maintains the same ingredients, though under a different name. The common phrase for the reuben sandwich in England is the Sándsqwîtch (Pronounced Sand-sweat-ch). The understanding of this term is unknown, however it is believed to be a variant of the word Sandwich. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.233.120.181 ( talk) 15:02, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
The image shown at right, File:Reubensandwich.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. It has been repeatedly removed from this article, by several different editors, who all considered it disgusting-looking. Since it seemed to me that there was little use for a picture of a Reuben sandwich that was deemed to be unsuitable for the Reuben sandwich article, I proposed the image for deletion. Please see the discussion if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. — Dominus ( talk) 14:26, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
All the Reubens that I've had have been pastrami and sauerkraut. Is that just a New York thing? 24.47.154.230 ( talk) 10:13, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
I've always made mine with corned beef hash, swiss cheese, sauerkraut, miracle whip, horseradish, & mustard on dark rye. 67.90.227.66 ( talk) 06:44, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
Recently an anonymous editor added a small section about a "grouper Reuben". The addition cited a reliable source that stated that the grouper Reuben was a regional specialty in Florida. Shortly after, Kintetsubuffalo ( talk · contribs) reverted this addition. No reason was given. Well-sourced, relevant material should not be deleted without discussion, so I have restored the material. — Mark Dominus ( talk) 17:14, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
I see that on 26 October 2013, Kintetsubuffalo ( talk · contribs) again deleted the properly-sourced material without consensus and without discussing the deletion on the talk page. I would like to remind everyone this this is expressly in violation of Wikipedia policy, and if it happens again I will report the offender to the admins. I have restored the deleted section. — Mark Dominus ( talk) 21:50, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
For a Rachel, substitute turkey for the corned beef.
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In Florida … many restaurants serve a grouper Reuben
I'm going to remove the recently-added "Chicago Reuben" section unless someone adds references to show that it is widespread and well-known, at least in Chicago, or objects to the removal here. — Mark Dominus ( talk) 17:02, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
I thought Reuben sandwiches could also use mustard as a condiment instead of Russian or 1000 Island. The photo clearly shows mustard as the condiment, as it is yellow [and not pink, which is known to be Russian/1000 Island dressing]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gizziiusa ( talk • contribs) 16:16, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
"The vegan's can substitute with a vegan dressing and cheese"?
Vegan don't eat dairy as it is made from milk taken from cows, vegetarians would — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.22.96.239 ( talk) 04:01, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
Similar sandwiches were made in France, Prussia, and Austria-Hungary. Montreal improved on it by being more generous with the meat. Many of the American imitations were considered to be niggardly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.229.115.207 ( talk) 16:15, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
All of the photos have a huge amount of meat in them, far more than any generous serving of meat in any sandwich I've ever seen (same goes for the pastrami page). At first, I though it was a joke, like the food on "This is why you're fat". If I go anywhere in New York and order this sandwich, will I get that much meat? 122.59.225.50 ( talk) 05:58, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
The article says that the lobster Reuben is served in the Florida Keys, but it seems to be more widespread than that; Google News search found mentions of it in other lobster zones such as Miami, Maine, and Massachusetts; also Reno NV.
I am beginning to think that all these sections should be collapsed into a single section that says that there are many variations that replace the corned beef with various proteins, and then lists a few prominent ones, including the Rachel. — Mark Dominus ( talk) 15:40, 30 November 2016 (UTC)