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I just did a googling and also tried Yahoo for the key word "Reddy dynasty" and was not able to find any valid content contributed in any website.
I went into history books both written by English people - Oxford Publication as well as people who have graduated in history and I am not able to find anything related to "Reddy dynasty"
Is this article in Wiki going against all History available now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Asprakash ( talk • contribs) 10:16, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
As far as I know there is no Reddy Dynasty. Reddies of those times mostly are nothing more than Balija Naidus who were chieftans of smaller specific areas. Reddy caste did not exist then. It became a seperate caste during British India time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.195.197.162 ( talk) 23:19, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Yes reddys are mostly farmers. And you brahmins used to receive donations like agraharams from these sudras. So brahmins were the slaves of sudras like reddys,velamas.
I would like to point out that the article "Reddy" is a bunch of manufactured lies, falsehoods and a mega exercise in self-glorification. Reddy is a sub-group of Kapus, few of whom became village heads carying the title "Reddy". It is not a caste or varna. In fact, the title 'Reddy' is shared by other social groups of A.P., although not in large numbers. The so-called Reddy dynasty was imaginary. Ruling a few districts for 70 or 80 years does not make one Dynastical. Absolutely ridiculous and fraudulent!! The map covering entire caostal Andhra depicted as 'Reddy dynasty' is another great travesty of historical truth. Please take corrective measues right now. Protect the sanctity of Wiki from history manufacturers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.206.236.4 ( talk) 12:25, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
The above title of fake history by a rouge element goes to show the caste discrimination against a genuine clan of rulers called Reddy. Their history is well documented in the history of Andhrapradesh and they ruled between AD 1325 - 1449 keeping Kondaveedu as their capital for well over a hundred years. The Reddy clan's ancient history can be traced to the Rashtrakuta era and they are believed to be descendants of the Rashtrakutas. In Andhra a 7th century inscription has been found and it mentions Reddy clan as Rattaguda indicating about the Rashtrakutas who ruled deccan between AD 6th to 9th century.Reddy clan is a genuine one and their dynasty was spread upto the Orissa border on the north side and upto kanchi in Tamilnadu in south during it's peak.
Reddy dynasty ruled for over 100 years. The Reddy clan kings Lakshma Reddy and Velama Reddy founded and also ruled Khammam fort for well over 300 hundred years starting from AD 10th century. The title Reddy is derived from Rattakuda > Rathoda > Rattodi > Rattadi > Raddi and finally Reddy from AD 1050 onwards. Reddy, Telaga/kapu, kamma and velama clans come under kapu category because they are the major land holding bodies and farming is their major activity, the present Reddy clan and telaga/kapu clans are distinct and their origins are totally different and not related to each other in any way. Velama nayaks were also contemporary. However when Telugu desam party captured power in AP they removed history about Reddy dynasty and Velama nayaks in AP school history books because of caste feeling. This is why many young people of AP don't know about it.
It is well known fact that PreBritish era Reddies were classified as Kapus due to their farming profession as the clans major population is land holding aristocracy in Telangana and Rayalaseema in Andhrapradesh. Reddy, telaga/kapu, kamma, velama were all classified as kapu by the british because all these clans indulge in farming trade and not because they are racially related to each other, each clan has it's own history of origin and one must not confuse about their origin as common one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.195.223.30 ( talk) 20:46, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
A IP user is constantly modifying cited content. I invite the said user here to engage in discussion and arrive at consensus before changing content. Foodie 377 ( talk) 12:32, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
I have just reverted the article to the last stable version, prior to the edit warring etc of the last couple of months. Please note that sources from the British Raj era are not considered to be reliable for use in the English Wikipedia. I suggest that the warring parties discuss any concerns here rather than continue to disrupt the article. - Sitush ( talk) 17:56, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
I have now removed all of the Raj era sources and also a map that was (correctly) tagged as being likely original research. I've also added some tags for quotes: I notice that some of the contributors to the article have historically been rather liberal when it comes to representing sources and that sometimes they, like me, only have access to Google Books snippet views, which are not reliable for the sort of information we are providing here. - Sitush ( talk) 18:39, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
The Reddy clan's ancient history can be easily traced back to the Rashtrakutas as they are believed to be the descendants of the Rashtrakutas and the clan is spread through out the deccan . In Karnataka even today the old form Raddi is in use and in Andhra and Telangana Reddy is in use, the clan is divided into fourteen sub groups known as Panta 14 in Andhra and Telangana. In Ashokan rock edicts mention of Rattakuda/Rashtrika is found who according to him were the rulers and dwellers of the deccan. An inscription of 9th century of the chalukyas of kalyani mentions Rattaguda in Andhra country indicating about the Rashtrakutas. This Rattaguda Over time got transformed into Rathoda, Rattadi, Rettadi, Raddi and Reddy in AD 1050. It is a highly debatable topic whether the Reddy social group is a clan or not as people other than Panta 14 Reddy clan also have this title Reddy as village head men, although the percentage is very minimal and less than 0.5% only. During the era of the kakatiyas the Reddy clan people were spread across karnataka, Andhra and Telanga by regional names such as Mattewada(motati)Reddy, Velanadu Reddy, Pakanadu Reddy, Pedagallu Reddy and Renadu Reddy etc,these sub groups are collectively called as Panta 14 Reddy clans, others those who use Reddy title are less than 0.5% and are not related to Panta 14 Reddy clans.The kakatiyas are also said to belong to the Reddy clan, Kakatiya dynasty was founded by Venna Rasa who was a commander in service of the Rashtrakutas he fought for them in many wars against eastern chalukyas of vengi, he belonged to Gakati a place near mysore which was a power house of the Reddy clan, the kakatiyas got that name from Gakati village. The kakatiya king Prola 2nd called himself Prola Reddi. The khammam fort too was built by Reddy brothers Lakshma Reddy, krishna Reddy and Velama Reddy who came from warangal in 10th century AD and their lineage ruled for 300 years till the collapse of the kakatiya Reddy dynasty . The Kondavidu Reddy dynasty was formed right after the fall of the Kakatiya Reddy dynasty in AD 1325 by Komati Prolaya Vema Reddy at Addanki initially. He invaded the turkic forces at warangal and defeated them and reestablished the hindu kingdom at warangal , he donated many agraharas to the brahmins, in his court yarrapragada the famous poet took shelter and he completed the task of translating the sanskrit epic Mahabharata into Telugu language. The Reddy kings established a second branch at Rajahmundry and the Reddy dynasty stretched from parts of kalinga in north to kanchi in south and Srisaila in west to the coastal regions on the east at it's peak. Prolaya Vema Reddy constructed 108 temples of lord shiva and Ahobilam temple of lord Narasimha was also built by him at ahobilam. All the Reddy kings were great scholars of sanskrit literature , their rule ended with struggles against the Gajapathis of Orissa, the Recherla Velamas and the vijayanagara kings.The last king Rachavema Reddy was murdered by his own subject and it ended the Kondavidu Reddy dynasty and the Rajhmundry branch continued for another 25 years, Veerabhadra Reddy the last ruler got killed in a battle with the Gajapathis of Odisa and it marked the end of the Reddy dynasty totally. Today Reddy, telaga/kapu, kamma, velama are all considered as kapu because their main occupation is farming and all are major land holding communities, kapu generally means a farmer and also protector. The title Reddy exclusively belongs to Panta Reddy clan only and balija/telaga are called as naidu and kammas are also called naidu because both are related to each other and served under the kakatiya Reddy kings as sainiks and postal incharges . Today the Reddy clan of Panta 14 are major entrepreneurs , doctors , engineers , scientists and leaders in all walks of life. (Source is Reddy Sanchika and kakatiya sanchika by dept of Archaeology, hyd) Rajshekhar Reddy Arya ( talk) 06:17, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
Sitush, whenever you get a chance, can you take a look at the "Origins" section? I can't find any mention of "Rashtrakuta" in the Frykenberg source. Further, it appears that a WP:FAKE citation has been added here. The same editor had added Rashtrakuta dynasty earlier. I am also concerned about the casual use of "Reddys" all over the article even though we know it to be highly ambiguous. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 02:00, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
Since there were no objections, I am moving this to Reddi kingdom (omitting "Kondavidu" because they had other capitals too, Addanki and Rajahmundry). -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 20:00, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
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I just did a googling and also tried Yahoo for the key word "Reddy dynasty" and was not able to find any valid content contributed in any website.
I went into history books both written by English people - Oxford Publication as well as people who have graduated in history and I am not able to find anything related to "Reddy dynasty"
Is this article in Wiki going against all History available now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Asprakash ( talk • contribs) 10:16, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
As far as I know there is no Reddy Dynasty. Reddies of those times mostly are nothing more than Balija Naidus who were chieftans of smaller specific areas. Reddy caste did not exist then. It became a seperate caste during British India time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.195.197.162 ( talk) 23:19, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Yes reddys are mostly farmers. And you brahmins used to receive donations like agraharams from these sudras. So brahmins were the slaves of sudras like reddys,velamas.
I would like to point out that the article "Reddy" is a bunch of manufactured lies, falsehoods and a mega exercise in self-glorification. Reddy is a sub-group of Kapus, few of whom became village heads carying the title "Reddy". It is not a caste or varna. In fact, the title 'Reddy' is shared by other social groups of A.P., although not in large numbers. The so-called Reddy dynasty was imaginary. Ruling a few districts for 70 or 80 years does not make one Dynastical. Absolutely ridiculous and fraudulent!! The map covering entire caostal Andhra depicted as 'Reddy dynasty' is another great travesty of historical truth. Please take corrective measues right now. Protect the sanctity of Wiki from history manufacturers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.206.236.4 ( talk) 12:25, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
The above title of fake history by a rouge element goes to show the caste discrimination against a genuine clan of rulers called Reddy. Their history is well documented in the history of Andhrapradesh and they ruled between AD 1325 - 1449 keeping Kondaveedu as their capital for well over a hundred years. The Reddy clan's ancient history can be traced to the Rashtrakuta era and they are believed to be descendants of the Rashtrakutas. In Andhra a 7th century inscription has been found and it mentions Reddy clan as Rattaguda indicating about the Rashtrakutas who ruled deccan between AD 6th to 9th century.Reddy clan is a genuine one and their dynasty was spread upto the Orissa border on the north side and upto kanchi in Tamilnadu in south during it's peak.
Reddy dynasty ruled for over 100 years. The Reddy clan kings Lakshma Reddy and Velama Reddy founded and also ruled Khammam fort for well over 300 hundred years starting from AD 10th century. The title Reddy is derived from Rattakuda > Rathoda > Rattodi > Rattadi > Raddi and finally Reddy from AD 1050 onwards. Reddy, Telaga/kapu, kamma and velama clans come under kapu category because they are the major land holding bodies and farming is their major activity, the present Reddy clan and telaga/kapu clans are distinct and their origins are totally different and not related to each other in any way. Velama nayaks were also contemporary. However when Telugu desam party captured power in AP they removed history about Reddy dynasty and Velama nayaks in AP school history books because of caste feeling. This is why many young people of AP don't know about it.
It is well known fact that PreBritish era Reddies were classified as Kapus due to their farming profession as the clans major population is land holding aristocracy in Telangana and Rayalaseema in Andhrapradesh. Reddy, telaga/kapu, kamma, velama were all classified as kapu by the british because all these clans indulge in farming trade and not because they are racially related to each other, each clan has it's own history of origin and one must not confuse about their origin as common one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.195.223.30 ( talk) 20:46, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
A IP user is constantly modifying cited content. I invite the said user here to engage in discussion and arrive at consensus before changing content. Foodie 377 ( talk) 12:32, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
I have just reverted the article to the last stable version, prior to the edit warring etc of the last couple of months. Please note that sources from the British Raj era are not considered to be reliable for use in the English Wikipedia. I suggest that the warring parties discuss any concerns here rather than continue to disrupt the article. - Sitush ( talk) 17:56, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
I have now removed all of the Raj era sources and also a map that was (correctly) tagged as being likely original research. I've also added some tags for quotes: I notice that some of the contributors to the article have historically been rather liberal when it comes to representing sources and that sometimes they, like me, only have access to Google Books snippet views, which are not reliable for the sort of information we are providing here. - Sitush ( talk) 18:39, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
The Reddy clan's ancient history can be easily traced back to the Rashtrakutas as they are believed to be the descendants of the Rashtrakutas and the clan is spread through out the deccan . In Karnataka even today the old form Raddi is in use and in Andhra and Telangana Reddy is in use, the clan is divided into fourteen sub groups known as Panta 14 in Andhra and Telangana. In Ashokan rock edicts mention of Rattakuda/Rashtrika is found who according to him were the rulers and dwellers of the deccan. An inscription of 9th century of the chalukyas of kalyani mentions Rattaguda in Andhra country indicating about the Rashtrakutas. This Rattaguda Over time got transformed into Rathoda, Rattadi, Rettadi, Raddi and Reddy in AD 1050. It is a highly debatable topic whether the Reddy social group is a clan or not as people other than Panta 14 Reddy clan also have this title Reddy as village head men, although the percentage is very minimal and less than 0.5% only. During the era of the kakatiyas the Reddy clan people were spread across karnataka, Andhra and Telanga by regional names such as Mattewada(motati)Reddy, Velanadu Reddy, Pakanadu Reddy, Pedagallu Reddy and Renadu Reddy etc,these sub groups are collectively called as Panta 14 Reddy clans, others those who use Reddy title are less than 0.5% and are not related to Panta 14 Reddy clans.The kakatiyas are also said to belong to the Reddy clan, Kakatiya dynasty was founded by Venna Rasa who was a commander in service of the Rashtrakutas he fought for them in many wars against eastern chalukyas of vengi, he belonged to Gakati a place near mysore which was a power house of the Reddy clan, the kakatiyas got that name from Gakati village. The kakatiya king Prola 2nd called himself Prola Reddi. The khammam fort too was built by Reddy brothers Lakshma Reddy, krishna Reddy and Velama Reddy who came from warangal in 10th century AD and their lineage ruled for 300 years till the collapse of the kakatiya Reddy dynasty . The Kondavidu Reddy dynasty was formed right after the fall of the Kakatiya Reddy dynasty in AD 1325 by Komati Prolaya Vema Reddy at Addanki initially. He invaded the turkic forces at warangal and defeated them and reestablished the hindu kingdom at warangal , he donated many agraharas to the brahmins, in his court yarrapragada the famous poet took shelter and he completed the task of translating the sanskrit epic Mahabharata into Telugu language. The Reddy kings established a second branch at Rajahmundry and the Reddy dynasty stretched from parts of kalinga in north to kanchi in south and Srisaila in west to the coastal regions on the east at it's peak. Prolaya Vema Reddy constructed 108 temples of lord shiva and Ahobilam temple of lord Narasimha was also built by him at ahobilam. All the Reddy kings were great scholars of sanskrit literature , their rule ended with struggles against the Gajapathis of Orissa, the Recherla Velamas and the vijayanagara kings.The last king Rachavema Reddy was murdered by his own subject and it ended the Kondavidu Reddy dynasty and the Rajhmundry branch continued for another 25 years, Veerabhadra Reddy the last ruler got killed in a battle with the Gajapathis of Odisa and it marked the end of the Reddy dynasty totally. Today Reddy, telaga/kapu, kamma, velama are all considered as kapu because their main occupation is farming and all are major land holding communities, kapu generally means a farmer and also protector. The title Reddy exclusively belongs to Panta Reddy clan only and balija/telaga are called as naidu and kammas are also called naidu because both are related to each other and served under the kakatiya Reddy kings as sainiks and postal incharges . Today the Reddy clan of Panta 14 are major entrepreneurs , doctors , engineers , scientists and leaders in all walks of life. (Source is Reddy Sanchika and kakatiya sanchika by dept of Archaeology, hyd) Rajshekhar Reddy Arya ( talk) 06:17, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
Sitush, whenever you get a chance, can you take a look at the "Origins" section? I can't find any mention of "Rashtrakuta" in the Frykenberg source. Further, it appears that a WP:FAKE citation has been added here. The same editor had added Rashtrakuta dynasty earlier. I am also concerned about the casual use of "Reddys" all over the article even though we know it to be highly ambiguous. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 02:00, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
Since there were no objections, I am moving this to Reddi kingdom (omitting "Kondavidu" because they had other capitals too, Addanki and Rajahmundry). -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 20:00, 13 April 2019 (UTC)