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This article seems to be under a Polvorón occupation. Considering that the polvorones originated from "kurabiye", this is a peculiar situation. I tried to clean up the article a little bit but more text on polvorón should be removed and instead more should be added on " kurabiye". Please see also the talk page of un kurabiyesi. -- 176.239.123.144 ( talk) 13:00, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
Not to cause problems, but my kurabiye link directs here, and while Iranian Qurabiya is a fantastic example, there are many other kinds of kurabiye, which currently have their own stubs. I wonder if it might be better to have one page covering the regional varieties of these ubiquitous tea cookies (which can be salty, as well as sweet) - it doesn't make sense to have 3+ stubs - and no mention of tuzlu kurabiye anywhere. Would anyone object to merging these pages, and adding futher information? Seraphimsystem ( talk) 13:04, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
I have reinserted the sourced background info about cookies in general that was removed without explanation. Also, I have removed all information about Tabriz/Iran/Iranian Azerbaijan being the place of origin. This has never been sourced. There exists no sourcing for mentioning any specific place.
Also, I have removed the Spanish polvorón and the unnamed Mexican/American cookies. There is not any explanation given about there being any connection, so they are not qurabiya, only similar. Mention of polvorón as a similar cookie and linking to that article, is fine, but that is all that belongs here.
Finally, there is no content at all in the subsection for Turkey, which is rather strange, since they even have different types of kurabiye with specific names. The suggestion by Seraphim System in the section just above, is fine. Please add (sourced) info in the Turkey section. Whether the existing stubs about different kurabiye should be merged or just linked to, depends mainly on how much content will be produced.
I have only done some clean-up. In general, the article is first and last in sore need of sources. -- T*U ( talk) 20:55, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
Hey IamNotU and thank you for the dubious template you added. Indeed, it appears that the source does not mention "Qurabiya" or even "Kurabiye". I don't speak Turkish, but i made a google search while combining the title of the source, its author and the words "Qurabiya" and then "Kurabiye", but the said words were struck in all the results. Cheers.---Wikaviani (talk) (contribs) 03:21, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
I did some editing, to reflect the above, and added some more citations. I left the "dubious" template on the statement "Kurabiye appears in the Ottoman cuisine in the 15th century". I'm not confident that the source actually says that, since it had been misrepresented earlier, and other reliable sources give the 17th century as the first appearance in writing. It may be that "cookies", for which "kurabiye" is now a generic name, did appear, but not necessarily almond shortbread cookies, or not necessarily called "kurabiye" at the time. -- IamNotU ( talk) 17:45, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
Alternate names for the same food Spudlace ( talk) 03:20, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
Alternate names for the same food There is a section already in the Qurabiya article Spudlace ( talk) 03:21, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
I have reverted these edits by an IP editor from New Zealand:
[2],
[3] due to several problems. The main problem is that no
reliable source was
cited for the information. Linking to another Wikipedia article is not sufficient, though in any case, the linked article doesn't offer any mention of or citations supporting the claim that Vanillekipferl is the same thing as Qurabiya. Also, the information was added in a way that makes it appear to be supported by existing sources (Davidson, Marks), but it is not - see
WP:HIJACK. Much of the added text appears to be
original research or reflections based on personal knowledge or analysis. Furthermore, there are issues with instructional or presumptuous language such as it is worthwhile considering that the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.
- see
MOS:NOTED, with capitalization of section headers, and various other things. --
IamNotU (
talk)
23:43, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
Why is the title of the article spelt with a "q" and not "gh"? The Arabic letter that begins the word, "غ" (ghayn) is never Romanised to a "q", and the vast majority of mentions of the word in the article begin "gh". Would it not make more sense to change the title of the article to either "ghurabiya" or a Romanisation of the "neutral" MSA word? 5.186.121.223 ( talk) 10:43, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
![]() | The contents of the Kourabiedes page were merged into Qurabiya on 27 July 2021. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected page, please see its history; for the discussion at that location, see its talk page. |
![]() | The contents of the Ghoriba page were merged into Qurabiya on 9 April 2021. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected page, please see its history; for the discussion at that location, see its talk page. |
![]() | This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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This article seems to be under a Polvorón occupation. Considering that the polvorones originated from "kurabiye", this is a peculiar situation. I tried to clean up the article a little bit but more text on polvorón should be removed and instead more should be added on " kurabiye". Please see also the talk page of un kurabiyesi. -- 176.239.123.144 ( talk) 13:00, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
Not to cause problems, but my kurabiye link directs here, and while Iranian Qurabiya is a fantastic example, there are many other kinds of kurabiye, which currently have their own stubs. I wonder if it might be better to have one page covering the regional varieties of these ubiquitous tea cookies (which can be salty, as well as sweet) - it doesn't make sense to have 3+ stubs - and no mention of tuzlu kurabiye anywhere. Would anyone object to merging these pages, and adding futher information? Seraphimsystem ( talk) 13:04, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
I have reinserted the sourced background info about cookies in general that was removed without explanation. Also, I have removed all information about Tabriz/Iran/Iranian Azerbaijan being the place of origin. This has never been sourced. There exists no sourcing for mentioning any specific place.
Also, I have removed the Spanish polvorón and the unnamed Mexican/American cookies. There is not any explanation given about there being any connection, so they are not qurabiya, only similar. Mention of polvorón as a similar cookie and linking to that article, is fine, but that is all that belongs here.
Finally, there is no content at all in the subsection for Turkey, which is rather strange, since they even have different types of kurabiye with specific names. The suggestion by Seraphim System in the section just above, is fine. Please add (sourced) info in the Turkey section. Whether the existing stubs about different kurabiye should be merged or just linked to, depends mainly on how much content will be produced.
I have only done some clean-up. In general, the article is first and last in sore need of sources. -- T*U ( talk) 20:55, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
Hey IamNotU and thank you for the dubious template you added. Indeed, it appears that the source does not mention "Qurabiya" or even "Kurabiye". I don't speak Turkish, but i made a google search while combining the title of the source, its author and the words "Qurabiya" and then "Kurabiye", but the said words were struck in all the results. Cheers.---Wikaviani (talk) (contribs) 03:21, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
I did some editing, to reflect the above, and added some more citations. I left the "dubious" template on the statement "Kurabiye appears in the Ottoman cuisine in the 15th century". I'm not confident that the source actually says that, since it had been misrepresented earlier, and other reliable sources give the 17th century as the first appearance in writing. It may be that "cookies", for which "kurabiye" is now a generic name, did appear, but not necessarily almond shortbread cookies, or not necessarily called "kurabiye" at the time. -- IamNotU ( talk) 17:45, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
Alternate names for the same food Spudlace ( talk) 03:20, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
Alternate names for the same food There is a section already in the Qurabiya article Spudlace ( talk) 03:21, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
I have reverted these edits by an IP editor from New Zealand:
[2],
[3] due to several problems. The main problem is that no
reliable source was
cited for the information. Linking to another Wikipedia article is not sufficient, though in any case, the linked article doesn't offer any mention of or citations supporting the claim that Vanillekipferl is the same thing as Qurabiya. Also, the information was added in a way that makes it appear to be supported by existing sources (Davidson, Marks), but it is not - see
WP:HIJACK. Much of the added text appears to be
original research or reflections based on personal knowledge or analysis. Furthermore, there are issues with instructional or presumptuous language such as it is worthwhile considering that the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.
- see
MOS:NOTED, with capitalization of section headers, and various other things. --
IamNotU (
talk)
23:43, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
Why is the title of the article spelt with a "q" and not "gh"? The Arabic letter that begins the word, "غ" (ghayn) is never Romanised to a "q", and the vast majority of mentions of the word in the article begin "gh". Would it not make more sense to change the title of the article to either "ghurabiya" or a Romanisation of the "neutral" MSA word? 5.186.121.223 ( talk) 10:43, 23 July 2022 (UTC)