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There seems to be no longer a need for protection and I request it be removed 2602:306:CE96:AD70:4D0C:AC3A:F994:3687 ( talk) 13:51, 15 September 2018 (UTC)BeaMyra
The ones illustrating the article aren't especially useful since there is nothing in them that makes it clear what scale they are. Are they the size of a cottage or the size of a watermelon? 207.38.230.144 ( talk) 20:21, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
The concept of "pumpkin" as a conglomeration of various varieties of squash from different species does not exist in most languages and cultures. As a result, many of the pages linked to this article from Wikipedias in other languages seem to be done so incorrectly. There are some cases where it may be appropriate to keep the articles linked. Below is a list of pages in other languages which I believe are incorrectly linked to this one, as well as an example of an article that matches well enough to remain linked:
I would recommend that all those familiar with other languages review the corresponding pages for those languages and remove the link for those that have little overlap in topic or content with this article.
Tjag51 ( talk) 22:37, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
As was previously discussed in 2017 (see above), the Wampanoag / Massachusett word pôhpukun is "claimed" by the Mashpee Wampanoag tribe as the root of the English word pumpkin. Given the nasalization of the vowel ô in the Wampanoag / Wôpanâak language, the Wampanoag pronunciation of the word is "ponh-pu-kun," which, when said aloud, sounds almost exactly like the English "pumpkin." While the term translates to "grows forth round," this is also the Wampanoag term used for the fruit itself. Not coincidentally, pumpkins were introduced to English-speaking colonists in Massachusetts by the Wampanoag. It seems likely that the OED in the 1980s looked for a Eurocentric (and, on its face, far-fetched) etymology, rather than investigating indigenous American words. Given that the indigenous term is nearly identical to the English term, I think it deserves mention as, at the very least, a possible etymology. If the Eurocentrists who police Wikipedia are dissatisfied with that, I would be happy to reach out to Jessie Little Doe Baird, an MIT-trained linguist, MacArthur Fellow, and Vice-Chairwoman of the Mashpee Wampanoag Nation, to provide more explanation.
See https://www.wlrp.org/fun-with-words and http://www.bostonherald.com/2018/05/27/wampanoag-words-used-in-english/
Today I saw that this article is not added to the category "Foods". I thought this would be a problem, so I fixed this, because pumpkins are foods. EditJuice ( talk) 16:38, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
@ Oknazevad: I looked over the recent edit history and it looks like this is gonna be a most ridiculous back-and-forth edit spat as I expect people will keep changing it to "chucking" a few times per month. The page Pumpkin chucking links to "chucking," so other than just the funnies I don't see why keeping it as "Pumpkin chunkin(g)" is worth the confusion. If you're deadset on keeping it (as it is hilarious), it could be a subject of a ridiculous edit notice . Unburnable ( talk) 08:13, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
In principal, it's a good idea. In practice, it's a mess. Wikipedia is not a reliable source, so just copying from within Wikipedia without references does not make the section sourced at all. Adding entire cell entries with nothing except a citation needed tag, not even a claim needing a cite, is just bad editing, too. Either source the material and complete the chart, or it stays out as unsourced and challenged material. The WP:ONUS is on the person adding the material. oknazevad ( talk) 02:52, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
I am not doing what you describe, and I don't appreciate my work being called "bad editing." You are not taking the time to learn what I am doing, nor are you all that familiar with the content of this topic. Your approach, reverting first instead of contacting me, is not in the spirit of Wikipedia. MarkWKidd ( talk) 02:56, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
Also, please do not address me with imperatives like "Talk page. Now." That is completely inappropriate, and I hope it is the result of a language or cultural barrier. MarkWKidd ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 02:58, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
“Often called butternut squash, has a pumpkin-like flavor when eaten.”
Already edited the page to include this info but it got reverted because I used Guinness World Records as a source. Is this appropriate: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/09/pumpkin-world-record-travis-gienger-half-moon-bay ThatOneDoge ( talk) 17:40, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
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There seems to be no longer a need for protection and I request it be removed 2602:306:CE96:AD70:4D0C:AC3A:F994:3687 ( talk) 13:51, 15 September 2018 (UTC)BeaMyra
The ones illustrating the article aren't especially useful since there is nothing in them that makes it clear what scale they are. Are they the size of a cottage or the size of a watermelon? 207.38.230.144 ( talk) 20:21, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
The concept of "pumpkin" as a conglomeration of various varieties of squash from different species does not exist in most languages and cultures. As a result, many of the pages linked to this article from Wikipedias in other languages seem to be done so incorrectly. There are some cases where it may be appropriate to keep the articles linked. Below is a list of pages in other languages which I believe are incorrectly linked to this one, as well as an example of an article that matches well enough to remain linked:
I would recommend that all those familiar with other languages review the corresponding pages for those languages and remove the link for those that have little overlap in topic or content with this article.
Tjag51 ( talk) 22:37, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
As was previously discussed in 2017 (see above), the Wampanoag / Massachusett word pôhpukun is "claimed" by the Mashpee Wampanoag tribe as the root of the English word pumpkin. Given the nasalization of the vowel ô in the Wampanoag / Wôpanâak language, the Wampanoag pronunciation of the word is "ponh-pu-kun," which, when said aloud, sounds almost exactly like the English "pumpkin." While the term translates to "grows forth round," this is also the Wampanoag term used for the fruit itself. Not coincidentally, pumpkins were introduced to English-speaking colonists in Massachusetts by the Wampanoag. It seems likely that the OED in the 1980s looked for a Eurocentric (and, on its face, far-fetched) etymology, rather than investigating indigenous American words. Given that the indigenous term is nearly identical to the English term, I think it deserves mention as, at the very least, a possible etymology. If the Eurocentrists who police Wikipedia are dissatisfied with that, I would be happy to reach out to Jessie Little Doe Baird, an MIT-trained linguist, MacArthur Fellow, and Vice-Chairwoman of the Mashpee Wampanoag Nation, to provide more explanation.
See https://www.wlrp.org/fun-with-words and http://www.bostonherald.com/2018/05/27/wampanoag-words-used-in-english/
Today I saw that this article is not added to the category "Foods". I thought this would be a problem, so I fixed this, because pumpkins are foods. EditJuice ( talk) 16:38, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
@ Oknazevad: I looked over the recent edit history and it looks like this is gonna be a most ridiculous back-and-forth edit spat as I expect people will keep changing it to "chucking" a few times per month. The page Pumpkin chucking links to "chucking," so other than just the funnies I don't see why keeping it as "Pumpkin chunkin(g)" is worth the confusion. If you're deadset on keeping it (as it is hilarious), it could be a subject of a ridiculous edit notice . Unburnable ( talk) 08:13, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
In principal, it's a good idea. In practice, it's a mess. Wikipedia is not a reliable source, so just copying from within Wikipedia without references does not make the section sourced at all. Adding entire cell entries with nothing except a citation needed tag, not even a claim needing a cite, is just bad editing, too. Either source the material and complete the chart, or it stays out as unsourced and challenged material. The WP:ONUS is on the person adding the material. oknazevad ( talk) 02:52, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
I am not doing what you describe, and I don't appreciate my work being called "bad editing." You are not taking the time to learn what I am doing, nor are you all that familiar with the content of this topic. Your approach, reverting first instead of contacting me, is not in the spirit of Wikipedia. MarkWKidd ( talk) 02:56, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
Also, please do not address me with imperatives like "Talk page. Now." That is completely inappropriate, and I hope it is the result of a language or cultural barrier. MarkWKidd ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 02:58, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
“Often called butternut squash, has a pumpkin-like flavor when eaten.”
Already edited the page to include this info but it got reverted because I used Guinness World Records as a source. Is this appropriate: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/09/pumpkin-world-record-travis-gienger-half-moon-bay ThatOneDoge ( talk) 17:40, 10 December 2023 (UTC)