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Alright! So, I added some stuff (Critical Reception, that Philip Levine bit) and I know I still gotta work on it. Sorry about my lack. I don't know why, but it's harder than it seems. Maybe it is just me, or the obscurity of the subject...but I'm curious: what did you guys search in JSTOR, etc.? Perhaps I'm not researching 'correctly'.
Anyway -- I like we got up here so far. Definitely need citations, though!!
I looked at the Life in the Iron Mills page and it's pretty good -- they're using citations all over the place and have a lot of info, making for a rich page.
Go team! Giusti18 ( talk) 04:51, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Yo. Yeah, I'll get on the citations, but most of them are external media sources, not JSTOR. Looking at the other pages, something like "themes" would be great for proletariat stuffs. It's surprising how many "academic-level" articles haven't really been written about this subject, or they're all quite abstract, leaving much to the imagination (at least, the ones I've found, hence the music focus on that first burst of content) considering the impact of the genre on modern life. Rahorvath ( talk) 09:02, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Some good things to take a quick look at: Cary Nelson's Repression and Recovery, Walter Kalaidjian's American Culture Between the Wars, and the Oxford Press American Poetry site (fantastic resource for all things American poetry). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Profhanley ( talk • contribs) 15:13, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Article review for 11/3 assignment: I really like how you guys incorporate the contemporary versions of proletarian poetry into your page. Keep it going! Grahamhacia ( talk) 05:20, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
Alright, so, I guess I'll put up the article for good article nomination status? Rahorvath ( talk) 07:26, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
I suppose so. Even though there's more work to do, I'm thinking that because the nominations list is long, we can work on this more in the next week. Thanks for adding to this too, dude. Giusti18 ( talk) 07:35, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, I figure we'll get dinged on something or other, but also figure might want to get in under the deadline haha, oh journalism training, how you never fail... Rahorvath ( talk) 07:36, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
You're hella right. And also -- working on this either tonight, like right now, or early in the morning, most likely both. I apologize again for my utter lack of work. Usually not like this...senioritis is in the air...shoulda gotten those journalism skills! Thanks again. Giusti18 ( talk) 07:39, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Cloveapple ( talk) 14:26, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the feedback, Cloveapple. Getting on my part now. Giusti18 ( talk) 15:51, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Hey guys -- cleaned up some of the citation issues. Also, we should add a "Major Works" section, "Impact", etc.; stuff that directly discusses the poetry. Can't do it alone! Giusti18 ( talk) 17:00, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Not ready for GA prime time, in my opinion. Background section should probably talk about the Communist Party a bit, or at least mention its role. Major works - - pasting in Dirge won't do - - you definitely need to mention the 1935 Proletarian Lit. in the U.S. anthology as well as some other influential volumes/books - - e.g. Rukeyser's U.S.1 etc. Definitely need to beef up the Critical Reception section - - prole lit in the 30s became a flashpoint of literary controversy in re art/politics, party/culture etc. The Legacy section just won't fly - - though it's interesting - - it's opinion and not "fact." Since the article is about poetry - - better to find legacy in U.S. poetry and radical poetry. Again, look at the Encyclopedia of the American Left for good, short stuff on prole lit and various authors. And the U. of I. site is an excellent resource for info on poets and prole. movement. Profhanley ( talk) 17:35, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Piotrus ( talk · contribs) 20:49, 23 November 2011 (UTC) GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
Hey guys, I just cleaned up the legacy section with more objective wording, took out some stuff, and added a lot more sourcing regarding quotes and general statements to back things up. I think it looks a lot better. Let me know. Sorry I got to this so late, didn't realize I had to watch this part of the talk page separately. Rahorvath ( talk) 07:06, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
What is the status of this review? If it is completed, but the reviewer is waiting for improvements, please place it on hold. AstroCog ( talk) 15:07, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
This article is only about "American proletarian poetry". Therefore, I suggest that it should be so renamed. Rwood128 ( talk) 21:21, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
Proletarian literature is defined, in the Wikipedia article, as "literature created by working-class writers mainly for the class-conscious proletariat". Several of the writers mentioned in this article do not fit that definition, even though they may well write about working class life. Kenneth Fearing, for example, was the son of a successful Chicago attorney, Even Langston Hughes appears to have had a fairly wealthy father, studied engineering, and worked as a young man, "as a personal assistant to historian Carter G. Woodson". To take one more example, William Carlos Williams came from a well-to-do background and studied medicine. Rwood128 ( talk) 20:32, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
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Alright! So, I added some stuff (Critical Reception, that Philip Levine bit) and I know I still gotta work on it. Sorry about my lack. I don't know why, but it's harder than it seems. Maybe it is just me, or the obscurity of the subject...but I'm curious: what did you guys search in JSTOR, etc.? Perhaps I'm not researching 'correctly'.
Anyway -- I like we got up here so far. Definitely need citations, though!!
I looked at the Life in the Iron Mills page and it's pretty good -- they're using citations all over the place and have a lot of info, making for a rich page.
Go team! Giusti18 ( talk) 04:51, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Yo. Yeah, I'll get on the citations, but most of them are external media sources, not JSTOR. Looking at the other pages, something like "themes" would be great for proletariat stuffs. It's surprising how many "academic-level" articles haven't really been written about this subject, or they're all quite abstract, leaving much to the imagination (at least, the ones I've found, hence the music focus on that first burst of content) considering the impact of the genre on modern life. Rahorvath ( talk) 09:02, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Some good things to take a quick look at: Cary Nelson's Repression and Recovery, Walter Kalaidjian's American Culture Between the Wars, and the Oxford Press American Poetry site (fantastic resource for all things American poetry). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Profhanley ( talk • contribs) 15:13, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Article review for 11/3 assignment: I really like how you guys incorporate the contemporary versions of proletarian poetry into your page. Keep it going! Grahamhacia ( talk) 05:20, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
Alright, so, I guess I'll put up the article for good article nomination status? Rahorvath ( talk) 07:26, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
I suppose so. Even though there's more work to do, I'm thinking that because the nominations list is long, we can work on this more in the next week. Thanks for adding to this too, dude. Giusti18 ( talk) 07:35, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, I figure we'll get dinged on something or other, but also figure might want to get in under the deadline haha, oh journalism training, how you never fail... Rahorvath ( talk) 07:36, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
You're hella right. And also -- working on this either tonight, like right now, or early in the morning, most likely both. I apologize again for my utter lack of work. Usually not like this...senioritis is in the air...shoulda gotten those journalism skills! Thanks again. Giusti18 ( talk) 07:39, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Cloveapple ( talk) 14:26, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the feedback, Cloveapple. Getting on my part now. Giusti18 ( talk) 15:51, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Hey guys -- cleaned up some of the citation issues. Also, we should add a "Major Works" section, "Impact", etc.; stuff that directly discusses the poetry. Can't do it alone! Giusti18 ( talk) 17:00, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Not ready for GA prime time, in my opinion. Background section should probably talk about the Communist Party a bit, or at least mention its role. Major works - - pasting in Dirge won't do - - you definitely need to mention the 1935 Proletarian Lit. in the U.S. anthology as well as some other influential volumes/books - - e.g. Rukeyser's U.S.1 etc. Definitely need to beef up the Critical Reception section - - prole lit in the 30s became a flashpoint of literary controversy in re art/politics, party/culture etc. The Legacy section just won't fly - - though it's interesting - - it's opinion and not "fact." Since the article is about poetry - - better to find legacy in U.S. poetry and radical poetry. Again, look at the Encyclopedia of the American Left for good, short stuff on prole lit and various authors. And the U. of I. site is an excellent resource for info on poets and prole. movement. Profhanley ( talk) 17:35, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Piotrus ( talk · contribs) 20:49, 23 November 2011 (UTC) GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
Hey guys, I just cleaned up the legacy section with more objective wording, took out some stuff, and added a lot more sourcing regarding quotes and general statements to back things up. I think it looks a lot better. Let me know. Sorry I got to this so late, didn't realize I had to watch this part of the talk page separately. Rahorvath ( talk) 07:06, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
What is the status of this review? If it is completed, but the reviewer is waiting for improvements, please place it on hold. AstroCog ( talk) 15:07, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
This article is only about "American proletarian poetry". Therefore, I suggest that it should be so renamed. Rwood128 ( talk) 21:21, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
Proletarian literature is defined, in the Wikipedia article, as "literature created by working-class writers mainly for the class-conscious proletariat". Several of the writers mentioned in this article do not fit that definition, even though they may well write about working class life. Kenneth Fearing, for example, was the son of a successful Chicago attorney, Even Langston Hughes appears to have had a fairly wealthy father, studied engineering, and worked as a young man, "as a personal assistant to historian Carter G. Woodson". To take one more example, William Carlos Williams came from a well-to-do background and studied medicine. Rwood128 ( talk) 20:32, 12 November 2018 (UTC)