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After reading articles doubting the right of Diana, Princess of Wales and Sarah, Duchess of York to hold their respective titles after their divorce, I believe it would be fitting here to write a small paragraph outlining that Princess Margaret seized to be legally the Countess of Snowdon as that is a title reserved for the wife of the Earl of Snowdon. Does anyone agree with this?
At the time of her birth, her mother was HRH The Duchess of York and not Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon. Therefore, I have changed the reference to Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon being her mother a birth.
Where shall we place details of the kidnap attempt in 1974? ant_ie 21:24, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm amazed there is no photo...when she played such a large role in British Royal life the entire time she was alive 88.110.32.255 20:48, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Her face in the current photo is rather small. Perhaps it could be cropped so we see her more clearly, and less of the other people. 86.145.1.32 11:29, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
In the "Early Life" section it states that her father was Prince Albert, shouldn't it be King George 6? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SDSpivey ( talk • contribs) 01:03, 22 January 2007 (UTC).
Regarding the "Later Life" section--how can her operation in 1985 draw parallels with that of her father 30 years previously, when 30 years previously he had been dead for 3 years? 205.209.93.152 ( talk) 05:01, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Im sure i heard somewhere that she became a Roman Catholic in her later years?
Why was she crematedd? Iman S1995 14:58, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
The more logical reason is that "the tomb of her father" reputedly only has space for another four people to be interred: Queen Elizabeth II, Prince Philip and the future monarch and his second wife? If the late Princess Margaret had not been cremated, logically she would have had to be buried in the Royal Burial Ground at Frogmore, near Windsor. Her choice of cremation is therefore understandable as it enabled her mortal remains to go into St.George's Chapel, with her parents, to be followed by her sister, brother-in-law and her nephew and his second wife.
anon 91.108.16.49 ( talk)
"Unproven allegations also claim she had been romantically involved with musician Mick Jagger, actor Peter Sellers, and the Australian cricketer, Keith Miller [1] although the true extent of her relationships with these men has never been clear." -- I'm striking all after "Keith Miller" as unencyclopedic innuendo. If we have any citable facts, let's say so and cite them. If not, let's avoid the tabloidism. Please discuss here as necessary. -- 201.51.250.178 23:49, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Is it not a little spurious to state "It was a well known fact amongst her group of friends that her appetite for whiskey fuelled all-night parties followed by lesbian romps was huge" so boldly? The rumours about the late Princess margaret are rampant, and it should be clear that this is just one of the rumours. Dan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.4.191.209 ( talk) 19:01, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Given the BBC is reporting Robert Brown's attempts to find evidence he may be Princess Margaret's illegitimate son, I'd have thought there would be some mention of it here. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6272868.stm (Why can't he just look at the appointments of the royal court from the broadsheets of the day to see if she disappeared from public life during the supposed pregnancy?) -- Ralph Corderoy 11:17, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
With the assistance of corsetry and the then fashionable 'A' line, it would most definitely have been possible to conceal a pregancy up to the 5th, or even 6th month. One would of course be more likely to see some form of evidence - in the form of the now facile DNA tests one can easily arrange nowadays - that the woman named on his birth certificate was not his 'birth mother'.
One also adds that in today's Daily Mail article (02/04/2011), mention is made to the fact Mrs. Snowdon was reported as unwell on the day of his birth.
Given the 'type' of person she associated with at this time, I am surprised that no-one has previously come forward offering to name Mr. Brown's real Father.However, I would take more interest if he were able to show at least, that his 'mother' was not his birth mother to begin with: quite why any Judge even entertained the case in the absence of these simple tests on mitochondrial DNA, I cannot understand. 79.70.230.209 ( talk) 21:53, 2 April 2011 (UTC)Rohan Bagshawe 79.70.230.209 ( talk) 21:53, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
Surely it should be mentioned the fact that she called all Irish people "Pigs"
From BBC Website:
"In 1979, the year Lord Mountbatten was assassinated by the IRA, she caused a stir when the Mayor of Chicago alleged that she had described the Irish as "pigs"."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/278463.stm
Very notable
Niall123 ( talk) 14:56, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Wasn't she generally called "Princess Margaret Rose" as a child? I don't know when she dropped the Rose, does anyone else? Opera hat ( talk) 17:36, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
The article says she was the first "senior" royal to be born in Scotland since 1600. While I can just about accept that the Queen of Spain is not a "senior" royal, Charles I's younger brother, Robert Stuart, Duke of Kintyre, was born in Dunfermline Palace in 1602. DrKay ( talk) 08:25, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
The Queen of Spain was not really what you would call a senior royal. She was the last child of Queen Victoria's last child and pretty far down the ranks of seniority in the Royal family. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.77.127.106 ( talk) 15:24, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
There are many ridiculous innuendos in this story and inaccuracies. For one, she never had a courtship with John Turner of Canada; they danced once at a party. The Peter Sellers store may be valid, but others have been discounted. These include Mick Jagger, and Sharman Douglas. To put every man that has been linked with HRH by some British tabloid should not be included. This article is far too gossipy, than truth focused. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.231.180.154 ( talk) 23:14, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm so pleased you have not included her liaison with an East End criminal who used to hang several beer mugs 'awf his cockney - or of her encounters with colonial waiters -lowered the tone of the article, if not the entire mystique of this wonderful, radiant, gracious and charitable lady. 79.70.230.209 ( talk) 22:01, 2 April 2011 (UTC)Rohan Bagshawe 79.70.230.209 ( talk) 22:01, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
From their marriage until Lord Snowdon was ennobled the following year (1960–1961), was Margaret's correct style "Her Royal Highness The Princess Margaret, Mrs. Antony Armstrong-Jones"? I'm basing this conjecture on the similar styles of The Princess Anne and Princess Alexandra of Kent from their marriages (until becoming Princess Royal and her husband's knighting, respectively). Andrei Iosifovich ( talk) 21:44, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Large sections of the middle part of this article are based soley on a 2002 book by Christopher Warwick. The factual basis of this has to be questioned. Amongst glaring inaccuracies are a statement that the British Government would not give permission to a marriage of Princess Margaret and Townsend. In fact, under the Royal Marriages Act of 1772, it is not the British Government who approves Royal Marraiges, it is the Monarch. A member of the Royal Family (as long as they are over the age of 25) may appeal the Monarch's decision by appealing to the Privy Council (NOT the Government). Historical papers released after Margaret's death appear to show that rather thn opposing the match, the Government did not offer an opinion. Yet this is being reported as fact. All sorts of people write all sorts of books about Royals. It doesn't mean that they are accurate. Indisciplined ( talk) 00:36, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Question, do anyone know why when Lord Snowdon divorced Princess Margaret and remarried Lucy Lindsay-Hoggs, that Lucy was not named Countess of Snowdon. Shouldn't she have been Lucy Armstrong-Jones, Countess of Snowdon?
Concerning the above style - she would be known simply as Lucy, Countess of Snowdon the Title belongs to the Letters Patentee namely Anthony Armstrong-Jones not to Princess Margaret who held the title by courtesy only as his wife. Johnkennedy58 ( talk) 12:45, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
I seriously doubt that Princess Margaret looked down on Queen Mary on account of the latter's birth. First of all, Queen Mary was a testy old lady, and if she had a hint of that, she would have rapped the whippersnapper on the head with her parasol (see A. Michie, God Save The Queen, for a good analysis of Queen Mary's personality). Seriously, though, Queen Mary was royal. She was a direct descendant of King George III, through the Cambridge line of the family. John Paul Parks ( talk) 03:04, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
Early in the article is the statement:
Her godparents were: the Prince of Wales (her paternal uncle, for whom his brother the Prince George stood proxy) . . .
Later, (with reference - Dempster, p.8 - which seems to be removed), the statement is:
When Margaret was twelve in 1942 her uncle and godfather, Prince George, was killed in an air crash.
Prince George appears to be a favoured uncle not Princess Margaret's godfather.-- User:Brenont ( talk) 02:04, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
Could User:Glenmeister please explain why it's so absolutely necessary (to the point of revert warring with two editors) to here ignore WP:NOPIPE? -- Ħ MIESIANIACAL 21:17, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
Why is the lead so crammed full of stuff? The beginning of an article isn't supposed to summarize the subject's entire life from cradle to grave, it's supposed to briefly say why the subject is notable - right? All of that stuff is just repeated further down the page and I don't think there's a need for it to be in there twice. The whole article just reads like a random copy-and-paste job. ScarletRibbons ( talk) 07:51, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
I'm new on Wikipedia so don't want to start editing pages, but I notice the burial date of 9 April 2002 for Princess Margaret is not correct. I believe it should be 15 February 2002. Someone may have mixed it up with the Queen Mother's burial date. Andy O ( talk) 20:40, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
The consensus is to remove the list from the body of the article itself. Creating a template for the subject of the page was considered as an alternative option. Keivan.f Talk 02:11, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
Is it really appropriate, relevant or necessary to include a long list of places that have been named after her in the section "legacy"? Any outstanding memorial has to be mentioned of course, but could the users determine which ones we need to keep and which ones we possibly need to remove? Keivan.f Talk 16:19, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
It is unnecessary to include something in a summary biography that applies to everyone. Other encyclopedias do not fill out their entries with broad statements that could be said about everyone. We don't begin a biography with statements like 'She was born with two legs and a nose', unless there is something exceptional about her legs and nose or later in life didn't have them. Similarly, we don't end a biography with a statement like 'People said nice things about her after her death', because that happens after almost everyone's death. It is only ever mentioned in a summary biography if the statements are somehow exceptional or unusual. Celia Homeford ( talk) 08:38, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
Yes, the Church, specifically Archbishop Fisher, was criticized after Princess Margaret decided not to marry Peter Townsend.
Just fyi, this is content from the Divorce section of History of the Church of England, as of 2 January 2018; the editor who wrote it used the same source that I used (in the edit I did about Randolph Churchill and Fisher in this Fisher article):
When Princess Margaret wanted in 1952 to marry Peter Townsend, a commoner who had been divorced, the Church did not directly intervene but the government warned she had to renounce her claim to the throne and could not be married in church. Historian Ann Holmes says, "The image that endured was that of a beautiful young princess kept from the man she loved by an inflexible Church. It was an image and a story that evoked much criticism both of Archbishop Fisher and of the Church' policies regarding remarriage after divorce." Holmes. The Church of England and Divorce in the Twentieth Century. pp. 43–48, 74–80., quotes pp 44, 45 79.
However when she actually did divorce, in 1978, the then Archbishop of Canterbury, Donald Coggan, did not attack her, and instead offered support. >Ben Pimlott, The Queen: A Biography of Elizabeth II. (1998), p 443.
Peter K Burian ( talk) 19:44, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
This ain't no Marriage section. For a marriage section have a look at this. What we got here is a Wedding section, mainly (complete with xref to an article on a wedding dress, gossake!) Retitle as Engagement and wedding? – SquisherDa ( talk) 14:30, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
Does anyone have a external image about Princess Margaret's 21st birthday at Balmoral, which would appropriate while using {{ External image}}. Unfortunately, but I can't upload this image then it also followed Wikipedia's fair use policy, see WP:F7. -- ZmeytheDragon16 ( talk) 08:18, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
This statement is utterly ridiculous. It is akin to saying a man was sentenced to death for donating the proceeds of his house to an orphanage. Can we amplify this? She was presumably legless (pardon pun), so why mince around the matter? Is there a source as to why she climbed into a scalding bath? Most maids don't run boiling water for their employees. On the balance of probabilities, she ran the bath herself. Hanoi Road ( talk) 22:49, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
According to Noel Botham, Margaret had lesbian lovers in her youth. See [3] and the book Margaret, The Last Real Princess. If editors think it's worthwhile to add mention of this to this article, it should also be added to LGBT nobility and royalty. -- Beland ( talk) 23:09, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
This has probably been raised on the talk page before, but does anyone feel like the section about Margaret's [ with Peter Townsend] is given entirely too much weight?-- Bettydaisies ( talk) 23:12, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
I have seen many hurtful comments towards this profile picture of princess queen Margaret on Twitter as it is not a flattering phot of her . They have many hateful comments and bullied this photograph by making fun of her appearance. There are many picture of her in the 1950s that are more beautiful as she was a beautiful woman when she was young . Thankyou 2A02:C7F:570D:F400:34E1:B253:A2F5:854 ( talk) 02:27, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
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I suggest we update the lead section, since it is outdated since the passing of the Queen. Here is the lead section as it is on the 12th of October, 2022:
Princess Margaret, Countess of Snowdon, CI, GCVO, CD (Margaret Rose; 21 August 1930 – 9 February 2002) was the younger daughter of King George VI and Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother and the only sibling of Queen Elizabeth II.
I suggest we remove the word "Queen" from Elizabeth II, to update this section. If anyone says otherwise, please reply to this post.
Sincerely, Thenewright22 ( talk) 03:09, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
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Princess Margaret, Countess of Snowdon → Princess Margaret – Per WP:COMMONNAME as "Princess Margaret" without using this style "Countess of Snowdon" can be seen on The Royal Family website, The Guardian, Daily Express, Daily Mail, and other British sources as well as internationally. Surveyor Mount 08:26, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
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The lead image was recently changed to this one (with no explanation) and then rapidly changed back to this one with the edit summary "More natural expression". Is that a more natural expression? Is it a better photograph? Thanks. Martinevans123 ( talk) 15:08, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
A Royal Family Encyclopedia stated her occupation as philanthropist https://www.royal.uk/encyclopedia/princess-margaret Asphonixm ( talk) 14:25, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
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After reading articles doubting the right of Diana, Princess of Wales and Sarah, Duchess of York to hold their respective titles after their divorce, I believe it would be fitting here to write a small paragraph outlining that Princess Margaret seized to be legally the Countess of Snowdon as that is a title reserved for the wife of the Earl of Snowdon. Does anyone agree with this?
At the time of her birth, her mother was HRH The Duchess of York and not Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon. Therefore, I have changed the reference to Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon being her mother a birth.
Where shall we place details of the kidnap attempt in 1974? ant_ie 21:24, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm amazed there is no photo...when she played such a large role in British Royal life the entire time she was alive 88.110.32.255 20:48, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Her face in the current photo is rather small. Perhaps it could be cropped so we see her more clearly, and less of the other people. 86.145.1.32 11:29, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
In the "Early Life" section it states that her father was Prince Albert, shouldn't it be King George 6? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SDSpivey ( talk • contribs) 01:03, 22 January 2007 (UTC).
Regarding the "Later Life" section--how can her operation in 1985 draw parallels with that of her father 30 years previously, when 30 years previously he had been dead for 3 years? 205.209.93.152 ( talk) 05:01, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Im sure i heard somewhere that she became a Roman Catholic in her later years?
Why was she crematedd? Iman S1995 14:58, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
The more logical reason is that "the tomb of her father" reputedly only has space for another four people to be interred: Queen Elizabeth II, Prince Philip and the future monarch and his second wife? If the late Princess Margaret had not been cremated, logically she would have had to be buried in the Royal Burial Ground at Frogmore, near Windsor. Her choice of cremation is therefore understandable as it enabled her mortal remains to go into St.George's Chapel, with her parents, to be followed by her sister, brother-in-law and her nephew and his second wife.
anon 91.108.16.49 ( talk)
"Unproven allegations also claim she had been romantically involved with musician Mick Jagger, actor Peter Sellers, and the Australian cricketer, Keith Miller [1] although the true extent of her relationships with these men has never been clear." -- I'm striking all after "Keith Miller" as unencyclopedic innuendo. If we have any citable facts, let's say so and cite them. If not, let's avoid the tabloidism. Please discuss here as necessary. -- 201.51.250.178 23:49, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Is it not a little spurious to state "It was a well known fact amongst her group of friends that her appetite for whiskey fuelled all-night parties followed by lesbian romps was huge" so boldly? The rumours about the late Princess margaret are rampant, and it should be clear that this is just one of the rumours. Dan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.4.191.209 ( talk) 19:01, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Given the BBC is reporting Robert Brown's attempts to find evidence he may be Princess Margaret's illegitimate son, I'd have thought there would be some mention of it here. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6272868.stm (Why can't he just look at the appointments of the royal court from the broadsheets of the day to see if she disappeared from public life during the supposed pregnancy?) -- Ralph Corderoy 11:17, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
With the assistance of corsetry and the then fashionable 'A' line, it would most definitely have been possible to conceal a pregancy up to the 5th, or even 6th month. One would of course be more likely to see some form of evidence - in the form of the now facile DNA tests one can easily arrange nowadays - that the woman named on his birth certificate was not his 'birth mother'.
One also adds that in today's Daily Mail article (02/04/2011), mention is made to the fact Mrs. Snowdon was reported as unwell on the day of his birth.
Given the 'type' of person she associated with at this time, I am surprised that no-one has previously come forward offering to name Mr. Brown's real Father.However, I would take more interest if he were able to show at least, that his 'mother' was not his birth mother to begin with: quite why any Judge even entertained the case in the absence of these simple tests on mitochondrial DNA, I cannot understand. 79.70.230.209 ( talk) 21:53, 2 April 2011 (UTC)Rohan Bagshawe 79.70.230.209 ( talk) 21:53, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
Surely it should be mentioned the fact that she called all Irish people "Pigs"
From BBC Website:
"In 1979, the year Lord Mountbatten was assassinated by the IRA, she caused a stir when the Mayor of Chicago alleged that she had described the Irish as "pigs"."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/278463.stm
Very notable
Niall123 ( talk) 14:56, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Wasn't she generally called "Princess Margaret Rose" as a child? I don't know when she dropped the Rose, does anyone else? Opera hat ( talk) 17:36, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
The article says she was the first "senior" royal to be born in Scotland since 1600. While I can just about accept that the Queen of Spain is not a "senior" royal, Charles I's younger brother, Robert Stuart, Duke of Kintyre, was born in Dunfermline Palace in 1602. DrKay ( talk) 08:25, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
The Queen of Spain was not really what you would call a senior royal. She was the last child of Queen Victoria's last child and pretty far down the ranks of seniority in the Royal family. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.77.127.106 ( talk) 15:24, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
There are many ridiculous innuendos in this story and inaccuracies. For one, she never had a courtship with John Turner of Canada; they danced once at a party. The Peter Sellers store may be valid, but others have been discounted. These include Mick Jagger, and Sharman Douglas. To put every man that has been linked with HRH by some British tabloid should not be included. This article is far too gossipy, than truth focused. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.231.180.154 ( talk) 23:14, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm so pleased you have not included her liaison with an East End criminal who used to hang several beer mugs 'awf his cockney - or of her encounters with colonial waiters -lowered the tone of the article, if not the entire mystique of this wonderful, radiant, gracious and charitable lady. 79.70.230.209 ( talk) 22:01, 2 April 2011 (UTC)Rohan Bagshawe 79.70.230.209 ( talk) 22:01, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
From their marriage until Lord Snowdon was ennobled the following year (1960–1961), was Margaret's correct style "Her Royal Highness The Princess Margaret, Mrs. Antony Armstrong-Jones"? I'm basing this conjecture on the similar styles of The Princess Anne and Princess Alexandra of Kent from their marriages (until becoming Princess Royal and her husband's knighting, respectively). Andrei Iosifovich ( talk) 21:44, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Large sections of the middle part of this article are based soley on a 2002 book by Christopher Warwick. The factual basis of this has to be questioned. Amongst glaring inaccuracies are a statement that the British Government would not give permission to a marriage of Princess Margaret and Townsend. In fact, under the Royal Marriages Act of 1772, it is not the British Government who approves Royal Marraiges, it is the Monarch. A member of the Royal Family (as long as they are over the age of 25) may appeal the Monarch's decision by appealing to the Privy Council (NOT the Government). Historical papers released after Margaret's death appear to show that rather thn opposing the match, the Government did not offer an opinion. Yet this is being reported as fact. All sorts of people write all sorts of books about Royals. It doesn't mean that they are accurate. Indisciplined ( talk) 00:36, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Question, do anyone know why when Lord Snowdon divorced Princess Margaret and remarried Lucy Lindsay-Hoggs, that Lucy was not named Countess of Snowdon. Shouldn't she have been Lucy Armstrong-Jones, Countess of Snowdon?
Concerning the above style - she would be known simply as Lucy, Countess of Snowdon the Title belongs to the Letters Patentee namely Anthony Armstrong-Jones not to Princess Margaret who held the title by courtesy only as his wife. Johnkennedy58 ( talk) 12:45, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
I seriously doubt that Princess Margaret looked down on Queen Mary on account of the latter's birth. First of all, Queen Mary was a testy old lady, and if she had a hint of that, she would have rapped the whippersnapper on the head with her parasol (see A. Michie, God Save The Queen, for a good analysis of Queen Mary's personality). Seriously, though, Queen Mary was royal. She was a direct descendant of King George III, through the Cambridge line of the family. John Paul Parks ( talk) 03:04, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
Early in the article is the statement:
Her godparents were: the Prince of Wales (her paternal uncle, for whom his brother the Prince George stood proxy) . . .
Later, (with reference - Dempster, p.8 - which seems to be removed), the statement is:
When Margaret was twelve in 1942 her uncle and godfather, Prince George, was killed in an air crash.
Prince George appears to be a favoured uncle not Princess Margaret's godfather.-- User:Brenont ( talk) 02:04, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
Could User:Glenmeister please explain why it's so absolutely necessary (to the point of revert warring with two editors) to here ignore WP:NOPIPE? -- Ħ MIESIANIACAL 21:17, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
Why is the lead so crammed full of stuff? The beginning of an article isn't supposed to summarize the subject's entire life from cradle to grave, it's supposed to briefly say why the subject is notable - right? All of that stuff is just repeated further down the page and I don't think there's a need for it to be in there twice. The whole article just reads like a random copy-and-paste job. ScarletRibbons ( talk) 07:51, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
I'm new on Wikipedia so don't want to start editing pages, but I notice the burial date of 9 April 2002 for Princess Margaret is not correct. I believe it should be 15 February 2002. Someone may have mixed it up with the Queen Mother's burial date. Andy O ( talk) 20:40, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
The consensus is to remove the list from the body of the article itself. Creating a template for the subject of the page was considered as an alternative option. Keivan.f Talk 02:11, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
Is it really appropriate, relevant or necessary to include a long list of places that have been named after her in the section "legacy"? Any outstanding memorial has to be mentioned of course, but could the users determine which ones we need to keep and which ones we possibly need to remove? Keivan.f Talk 16:19, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
It is unnecessary to include something in a summary biography that applies to everyone. Other encyclopedias do not fill out their entries with broad statements that could be said about everyone. We don't begin a biography with statements like 'She was born with two legs and a nose', unless there is something exceptional about her legs and nose or later in life didn't have them. Similarly, we don't end a biography with a statement like 'People said nice things about her after her death', because that happens after almost everyone's death. It is only ever mentioned in a summary biography if the statements are somehow exceptional or unusual. Celia Homeford ( talk) 08:38, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
Yes, the Church, specifically Archbishop Fisher, was criticized after Princess Margaret decided not to marry Peter Townsend.
Just fyi, this is content from the Divorce section of History of the Church of England, as of 2 January 2018; the editor who wrote it used the same source that I used (in the edit I did about Randolph Churchill and Fisher in this Fisher article):
When Princess Margaret wanted in 1952 to marry Peter Townsend, a commoner who had been divorced, the Church did not directly intervene but the government warned she had to renounce her claim to the throne and could not be married in church. Historian Ann Holmes says, "The image that endured was that of a beautiful young princess kept from the man she loved by an inflexible Church. It was an image and a story that evoked much criticism both of Archbishop Fisher and of the Church' policies regarding remarriage after divorce." Holmes. The Church of England and Divorce in the Twentieth Century. pp. 43–48, 74–80., quotes pp 44, 45 79.
However when she actually did divorce, in 1978, the then Archbishop of Canterbury, Donald Coggan, did not attack her, and instead offered support. >Ben Pimlott, The Queen: A Biography of Elizabeth II. (1998), p 443.
Peter K Burian ( talk) 19:44, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
This ain't no Marriage section. For a marriage section have a look at this. What we got here is a Wedding section, mainly (complete with xref to an article on a wedding dress, gossake!) Retitle as Engagement and wedding? – SquisherDa ( talk) 14:30, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
Does anyone have a external image about Princess Margaret's 21st birthday at Balmoral, which would appropriate while using {{ External image}}. Unfortunately, but I can't upload this image then it also followed Wikipedia's fair use policy, see WP:F7. -- ZmeytheDragon16 ( talk) 08:18, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
This statement is utterly ridiculous. It is akin to saying a man was sentenced to death for donating the proceeds of his house to an orphanage. Can we amplify this? She was presumably legless (pardon pun), so why mince around the matter? Is there a source as to why she climbed into a scalding bath? Most maids don't run boiling water for their employees. On the balance of probabilities, she ran the bath herself. Hanoi Road ( talk) 22:49, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
According to Noel Botham, Margaret had lesbian lovers in her youth. See [3] and the book Margaret, The Last Real Princess. If editors think it's worthwhile to add mention of this to this article, it should also be added to LGBT nobility and royalty. -- Beland ( talk) 23:09, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
This has probably been raised on the talk page before, but does anyone feel like the section about Margaret's [ with Peter Townsend] is given entirely too much weight?-- Bettydaisies ( talk) 23:12, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
I have seen many hurtful comments towards this profile picture of princess queen Margaret on Twitter as it is not a flattering phot of her . They have many hateful comments and bullied this photograph by making fun of her appearance. There are many picture of her in the 1950s that are more beautiful as she was a beautiful woman when she was young . Thankyou 2A02:C7F:570D:F400:34E1:B253:A2F5:854 ( talk) 02:27, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
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I suggest we update the lead section, since it is outdated since the passing of the Queen. Here is the lead section as it is on the 12th of October, 2022:
Princess Margaret, Countess of Snowdon, CI, GCVO, CD (Margaret Rose; 21 August 1930 – 9 February 2002) was the younger daughter of King George VI and Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother and the only sibling of Queen Elizabeth II.
I suggest we remove the word "Queen" from Elizabeth II, to update this section. If anyone says otherwise, please reply to this post.
Sincerely, Thenewright22 ( talk) 03:09, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: not moved. ( non-admin closure) Material Works (contribs) 11:04, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
Princess Margaret, Countess of Snowdon → Princess Margaret – Per WP:COMMONNAME as "Princess Margaret" without using this style "Countess of Snowdon" can be seen on The Royal Family website, The Guardian, Daily Express, Daily Mail, and other British sources as well as internationally. Surveyor Mount 08:26, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
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The lead image was recently changed to this one (with no explanation) and then rapidly changed back to this one with the edit summary "More natural expression". Is that a more natural expression? Is it a better photograph? Thanks. Martinevans123 ( talk) 15:08, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
A Royal Family Encyclopedia stated her occupation as philanthropist https://www.royal.uk/encyclopedia/princess-margaret Asphonixm ( talk) 14:25, 27 January 2024 (UTC)