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The article name has been changed to Fonchi "per official site", while her official site says "Phongchi". http://sma-e.com/phongchi/ - 218.222.62.231 ( talk) 21:30, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
First of all, source it. As you know we don't give any importance to unsourced material. Currently we don't see any supporting evidence to classify her as a " pop singer".
Yahoo's pop singer (J-pop artist) category doesn't include her page [1]. Its general celebrity category includes her page. [2] PPChi ( talk) 20:23, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
YumeChaser, since you are making a claim about a
BLP, you have the burden of proof. If she is considered a pop singer, why aren't there any secondary sources calling her as such? Per
V and
BLP people on Wikipedia are defined by
RS. Editors do not get to describe, interpret, or explain sources.
YumeChaser, you are the one who doesn't get it. You cannot interpret primary sources without secondary sources supporting your interpretation. It is your
interpretation that she is considered a pop singer. All of the RS call her an idol and/or a gravure idol. There is nothing in the
NOR policy that supports describing a BLP without reliable secondary sources that support it. Until you find sources to support your claims, there is nothing to discuss. We have RS describing her as an idol and/or a gravure idol. We do not have RS describing her as a pop singer. If it was important or relevant to describe her as such here, you would be able to easily find sources for your description. You can't, so it isn't. We do not write articles based on your interpretations. You have not summarized or rephrased anything allowable by policy. Again, I've reverted the unsourced BLP claims. -
Freja Beha Erichsen (
talk)
00:27, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
We read :
- Freja Beha Erichsen ( talk) 03:34, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
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The article name has been changed to Fonchi "per official site", while her official site says "Phongchi". http://sma-e.com/phongchi/ - 218.222.62.231 ( talk) 21:30, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
First of all, source it. As you know we don't give any importance to unsourced material. Currently we don't see any supporting evidence to classify her as a " pop singer".
Yahoo's pop singer (J-pop artist) category doesn't include her page [1]. Its general celebrity category includes her page. [2] PPChi ( talk) 20:23, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
YumeChaser, since you are making a claim about a
BLP, you have the burden of proof. If she is considered a pop singer, why aren't there any secondary sources calling her as such? Per
V and
BLP people on Wikipedia are defined by
RS. Editors do not get to describe, interpret, or explain sources.
YumeChaser, you are the one who doesn't get it. You cannot interpret primary sources without secondary sources supporting your interpretation. It is your
interpretation that she is considered a pop singer. All of the RS call her an idol and/or a gravure idol. There is nothing in the
NOR policy that supports describing a BLP without reliable secondary sources that support it. Until you find sources to support your claims, there is nothing to discuss. We have RS describing her as an idol and/or a gravure idol. We do not have RS describing her as a pop singer. If it was important or relevant to describe her as such here, you would be able to easily find sources for your description. You can't, so it isn't. We do not write articles based on your interpretations. You have not summarized or rephrased anything allowable by policy. Again, I've reverted the unsourced BLP claims. -
Freja Beha Erichsen (
talk)
00:27, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
We read :
- Freja Beha Erichsen ( talk) 03:34, 15 October 2010 (UTC)