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"1500 killed, wounded, or captured" -- HanzoHattori 11:20, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
I've noticed throughout the Filipino campaign articles that obscene Japanese casualty figures are generally accepted at face value. This is ridiculous on several levels, most basically that even in a situation where a body count could be conducted enemy deaths have been known to be inflated by a factor of five or ten. See numerous articles over in the Vietnam War section of Wikipedia for ample proof of that. I doubt that the command climate of any operation with Douglas MacArthur in charge would result in a tendency to look at these kind of reports skeptically. Has anyone done rigorous, citable research on the battle and particularly on Japanese casualties of it that could inject some sanity into this? In too many of these battles Japanese deaths are found by subtracting documented Japanese survivors at the end of the war from a number of Japanese troops there at the beginning of the operation that has usually been found by the shadiest kind of number crunching possible and that's obviously not acceptable to write history beyond triumphialist propaganda.
I also note that American casualties from tropical diseases, which were massive, have been left out of the article. Finding a citation for this shouldn't be difficult, it's in the official US Army history IIRC.
Furthermore, some editor (presumably a wild nationalist) has been putting up the entire Filipino populations of the islands in question as "Filipino Troops" in the infoboxes. This is vandalism and I will deal with it as such. Kensai Max 21:32, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
"Mindoro was quickly overrun. U.S. Army engineers set about rapidly constructing a major air base at San Fabian." The link to San Fabian points to a location on Luzon island, and I can find no indication of a San Fabian on Mindoro island. -- Rmdickson ( talk) 17:44, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
7 years later and this article is still absolute rubbish
207.237.136.94 (
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18:24, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
What was the extent of New Zealand involvement in this theatre? The Australians left North Africa when Japan entered the war, but the New Zealand 2nd division stayed on and fought up through Italy. George Smyth XI ( talk) 15:50, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Please give more details about Australian, British, and New Zealand participation in this campaign. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.107.52.18 ( talk) 01:45, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
The only British participation in this campaign was a ship called the RFA Bishopdale (A128). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.107.159.125 ( talk) 11:24, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
The total number of allied forces committed to the Philippines campaign is nowhere to be found here, a curious omission considering that it's usually in other Wiki entries. However, a quick check of other sources does not produce any figure other than the 175,000 cited in this entry, which obviously is incomplete.
( Btillman ( talk) 20:30, 16 September 2008 (UTC))BTillman 16 Sept 08.
The reason the starvation which is the big cause of a Japanese soldier's cause of death is not described at all? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.45.177.52 ( talk) 03:33, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Please do not revert my latest edit about the contribution of the American and especially Filipino guerillas during the Allied invasion. Because it is important to mention it it that article and I have reliable sources, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.55.6.206 ( talk) 11:41, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
I have another reliable sources in my recent edit. Check it ,thanks -- 110.55.0.238 ( talk) 07:06, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Why is there a need to emphasis British India and British Burma, rather than referring to them plainly without the emphasis? -- RightCowLeftCoast ( talk) 21:20, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
These battles happened after the Marinanas were taken. The US was bombing Japan. The Japanese airforce was destroyed, the navy sunk. So was the battle of the Philipines useful or just a waste of 60,000 US casualties? Was it even controvertial at the time or later (like Iwo Jima)? I would be interested to read about this, and any other books associated with it. Either justifying or condeming. Tuntable ( talk) 02:25, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
The information box for this article looks more like a cenotaph than any meaningful potted summary. Might I suggest that the list of units involved be moved as a wikitable into a separate order of battle section, and some of the long list of commanders moved there also? HLGallon ( talk) 10:04, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
@ Cesartaco2005: rather than continue to edit war, can you please discuss your rationale for adding the commander of the Mexican force to infoboxes on this campaign? I have removed it as the Mexican force was so small (only a single fighter squadron). If you can provide reliable sources identifying him as being one of the main commanders of this campaign that would be very helpful. Nick-D ( talk) 10:09, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
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"1500 killed, wounded, or captured" -- HanzoHattori 11:20, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
I've noticed throughout the Filipino campaign articles that obscene Japanese casualty figures are generally accepted at face value. This is ridiculous on several levels, most basically that even in a situation where a body count could be conducted enemy deaths have been known to be inflated by a factor of five or ten. See numerous articles over in the Vietnam War section of Wikipedia for ample proof of that. I doubt that the command climate of any operation with Douglas MacArthur in charge would result in a tendency to look at these kind of reports skeptically. Has anyone done rigorous, citable research on the battle and particularly on Japanese casualties of it that could inject some sanity into this? In too many of these battles Japanese deaths are found by subtracting documented Japanese survivors at the end of the war from a number of Japanese troops there at the beginning of the operation that has usually been found by the shadiest kind of number crunching possible and that's obviously not acceptable to write history beyond triumphialist propaganda.
I also note that American casualties from tropical diseases, which were massive, have been left out of the article. Finding a citation for this shouldn't be difficult, it's in the official US Army history IIRC.
Furthermore, some editor (presumably a wild nationalist) has been putting up the entire Filipino populations of the islands in question as "Filipino Troops" in the infoboxes. This is vandalism and I will deal with it as such. Kensai Max 21:32, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
"Mindoro was quickly overrun. U.S. Army engineers set about rapidly constructing a major air base at San Fabian." The link to San Fabian points to a location on Luzon island, and I can find no indication of a San Fabian on Mindoro island. -- Rmdickson ( talk) 17:44, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
7 years later and this article is still absolute rubbish
207.237.136.94 (
talk)
18:24, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
What was the extent of New Zealand involvement in this theatre? The Australians left North Africa when Japan entered the war, but the New Zealand 2nd division stayed on and fought up through Italy. George Smyth XI ( talk) 15:50, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Please give more details about Australian, British, and New Zealand participation in this campaign. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.107.52.18 ( talk) 01:45, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
The only British participation in this campaign was a ship called the RFA Bishopdale (A128). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.107.159.125 ( talk) 11:24, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
The total number of allied forces committed to the Philippines campaign is nowhere to be found here, a curious omission considering that it's usually in other Wiki entries. However, a quick check of other sources does not produce any figure other than the 175,000 cited in this entry, which obviously is incomplete.
( Btillman ( talk) 20:30, 16 September 2008 (UTC))BTillman 16 Sept 08.
The reason the starvation which is the big cause of a Japanese soldier's cause of death is not described at all? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.45.177.52 ( talk) 03:33, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Please do not revert my latest edit about the contribution of the American and especially Filipino guerillas during the Allied invasion. Because it is important to mention it it that article and I have reliable sources, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.55.6.206 ( talk) 11:41, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
I have another reliable sources in my recent edit. Check it ,thanks -- 110.55.0.238 ( talk) 07:06, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Why is there a need to emphasis British India and British Burma, rather than referring to them plainly without the emphasis? -- RightCowLeftCoast ( talk) 21:20, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
These battles happened after the Marinanas were taken. The US was bombing Japan. The Japanese airforce was destroyed, the navy sunk. So was the battle of the Philipines useful or just a waste of 60,000 US casualties? Was it even controvertial at the time or later (like Iwo Jima)? I would be interested to read about this, and any other books associated with it. Either justifying or condeming. Tuntable ( talk) 02:25, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
The information box for this article looks more like a cenotaph than any meaningful potted summary. Might I suggest that the list of units involved be moved as a wikitable into a separate order of battle section, and some of the long list of commanders moved there also? HLGallon ( talk) 10:04, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
@ Cesartaco2005: rather than continue to edit war, can you please discuss your rationale for adding the commander of the Mexican force to infoboxes on this campaign? I have removed it as the Mexican force was so small (only a single fighter squadron). If you can provide reliable sources identifying him as being one of the main commanders of this campaign that would be very helpful. Nick-D ( talk) 10:09, 27 August 2019 (UTC)