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The Awards section is getting quite large. Is it time to create List of awards and nominations received by Wings (similar to List of awards and nominations received by The Beatles)? GoingBatty ( talk) 16:23, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
In the timeline picture, it says Laurence Juber and Steve Holley stayed with the band until its break-up, but in the written table below it, it says the group was once again reduced to the core trio from 1980 to its dissolution. Does anyone know which is correct? Beatleswhobeachboys ( talk) 19:14, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
The problem with trying to specify an exact point in time the group "broke up" is that Wings were really a band in name only and so couldn't "break up" in the sense that the Beatles did. When did the Plastic Ono Band break up? Wings were employees of Paul McCartney and served at his discretion and at some point their services were no longer needed. Here is the timeline for the end of Wings.
November 1980: Laurence Juber and Steve Holley are told they will not be needed for McCartney's upcoming album but they will be working on the Cold Cuts album in January.
December: McCartney, with Denny Laine, begins recording Tug of War at AIR Studios in London.
January 1981: Wings record overdubs for the Cold Cuts tracks. After those sessions Juber moves to New York at the end of January, seeing "the writing on the wall" about the group's future. Holley seems less aware.
February: McCartney, Laine and various guest musicians record more tracks for Tug of War at AIR Studios in Montserrat.
April 27: Laine announces he is quitting Wings due to McCartney's reluctance to tour. The newspaper article carrying Laine's announcement says that his departure leaves Wings with only two permanent members, McCartney and wife Linda. McCartney's spokesman says this not the necessarily the end of Wings and that "Wings are Paul and Linda McCartney and whoever they wish to record with." Apparently this is Holley's first indication he is no longer in Wings and calls McCartney to find out what is going on.
There was never any "announcement" that Wings broke up. Rolling Stone magazine didn't even mention Laine's departure. Many people just assumed Wings were no more when McCartney II came out, and most everyone assumed Wings were done after Laine quit, despite McCartney saying that wasn't the case. Piriczki ( talk) 14:48, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
I was wondering. Was Columbia Records' lack of interest in releasing the Cold Cuts album one of the reasons why Wings broke up? SUPER ASTIG 00:22, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
The caption below the main picture says, "L–R: Joe English, Denny Laine, Linda McCartney...", however, what we really see there is some guy, which I don't know, then Joe English, Linda McCartney and so on. Where is Denny Laine?
Trikita ( talk) 05:21, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
I think we need to find a reference for the five songs Laine wrote on London Town. He gave an interview to Culture Sonar recently. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emnetinlurve ( talk • contribs) 02:37, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
If you don't mind me saying, you come across as a bully. -Emnetinlurve — Preceding unsigned comment added by KylieMcMilie ( talk • contribs) 09:52, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
I've just started a discussion at Talk:My Love (Paul McCartney and Wings song)#Songwriting credit. Would welcome input from all interested editors. Thanks, JG66 ( talk) 07:15, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
I added a citation for the five Wings tours, and also standardized the tour names, using that citation as a guide. Matuko ( talk) 15:12, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
I think a better quality picture of Wings must be added in the first page. On the current one the people in it are barely recognizable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:1210:66E4:B400:5EA:E645:5999:2519 ( talk) 14:22, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
The article's title "Paul McCartney and Wings" and the first line "Paul McCartney and Wings, often billed simply as Wings..." seem to be backwards.
"Wings" was McCartney's chosen name for the group and the moniker "Paul McCartney and Wings" came from the record company, and was only used in 1973/74 for Red Rose Speedway and Band on the Run as well as some but not all of the singles in that period. The name was not used on their other five studio albums, their live album, or the band's compilations. [The "PM and" naming convention does come back on McCartney's solo singles when Wings songs appeared as b-sides, but the logical conclusion is that was to associate it with the performer of the A-side while delineating that it was recorded by a different outfit.] In either case, the name "Wings" was not only used significantly more than "PM and" ever was, it was also used at the time of their most successful 1975-77 period.
Is there any particular reason this article isn't simply titled "Wings" and that the first line doesn't read ""Wings, sometimes billed as Paul McCartney and Wings..."? McCartney75 ( talk) 13:52, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
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The Awards section is getting quite large. Is it time to create List of awards and nominations received by Wings (similar to List of awards and nominations received by The Beatles)? GoingBatty ( talk) 16:23, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
In the timeline picture, it says Laurence Juber and Steve Holley stayed with the band until its break-up, but in the written table below it, it says the group was once again reduced to the core trio from 1980 to its dissolution. Does anyone know which is correct? Beatleswhobeachboys ( talk) 19:14, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
The problem with trying to specify an exact point in time the group "broke up" is that Wings were really a band in name only and so couldn't "break up" in the sense that the Beatles did. When did the Plastic Ono Band break up? Wings were employees of Paul McCartney and served at his discretion and at some point their services were no longer needed. Here is the timeline for the end of Wings.
November 1980: Laurence Juber and Steve Holley are told they will not be needed for McCartney's upcoming album but they will be working on the Cold Cuts album in January.
December: McCartney, with Denny Laine, begins recording Tug of War at AIR Studios in London.
January 1981: Wings record overdubs for the Cold Cuts tracks. After those sessions Juber moves to New York at the end of January, seeing "the writing on the wall" about the group's future. Holley seems less aware.
February: McCartney, Laine and various guest musicians record more tracks for Tug of War at AIR Studios in Montserrat.
April 27: Laine announces he is quitting Wings due to McCartney's reluctance to tour. The newspaper article carrying Laine's announcement says that his departure leaves Wings with only two permanent members, McCartney and wife Linda. McCartney's spokesman says this not the necessarily the end of Wings and that "Wings are Paul and Linda McCartney and whoever they wish to record with." Apparently this is Holley's first indication he is no longer in Wings and calls McCartney to find out what is going on.
There was never any "announcement" that Wings broke up. Rolling Stone magazine didn't even mention Laine's departure. Many people just assumed Wings were no more when McCartney II came out, and most everyone assumed Wings were done after Laine quit, despite McCartney saying that wasn't the case. Piriczki ( talk) 14:48, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
I was wondering. Was Columbia Records' lack of interest in releasing the Cold Cuts album one of the reasons why Wings broke up? SUPER ASTIG 00:22, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
The caption below the main picture says, "L–R: Joe English, Denny Laine, Linda McCartney...", however, what we really see there is some guy, which I don't know, then Joe English, Linda McCartney and so on. Where is Denny Laine?
Trikita ( talk) 05:21, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
I think we need to find a reference for the five songs Laine wrote on London Town. He gave an interview to Culture Sonar recently. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emnetinlurve ( talk • contribs) 02:37, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
If you don't mind me saying, you come across as a bully. -Emnetinlurve — Preceding unsigned comment added by KylieMcMilie ( talk • contribs) 09:52, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
I've just started a discussion at Talk:My Love (Paul McCartney and Wings song)#Songwriting credit. Would welcome input from all interested editors. Thanks, JG66 ( talk) 07:15, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
I added a citation for the five Wings tours, and also standardized the tour names, using that citation as a guide. Matuko ( talk) 15:12, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
I think a better quality picture of Wings must be added in the first page. On the current one the people in it are barely recognizable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:1210:66E4:B400:5EA:E645:5999:2519 ( talk) 14:22, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
The article's title "Paul McCartney and Wings" and the first line "Paul McCartney and Wings, often billed simply as Wings..." seem to be backwards.
"Wings" was McCartney's chosen name for the group and the moniker "Paul McCartney and Wings" came from the record company, and was only used in 1973/74 for Red Rose Speedway and Band on the Run as well as some but not all of the singles in that period. The name was not used on their other five studio albums, their live album, or the band's compilations. [The "PM and" naming convention does come back on McCartney's solo singles when Wings songs appeared as b-sides, but the logical conclusion is that was to associate it with the performer of the A-side while delineating that it was recorded by a different outfit.] In either case, the name "Wings" was not only used significantly more than "PM and" ever was, it was also used at the time of their most successful 1975-77 period.
Is there any particular reason this article isn't simply titled "Wings" and that the first line doesn't read ""Wings, sometimes billed as Paul McCartney and Wings..."? McCartney75 ( talk) 13:52, 13 September 2023 (UTC)