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This article was written as part of the History of Tunisia. Accordingly such should remain its primary status. Notwithstanding, Tunisia's Ottoman era was certainly important and interesting.
In the Maghrib, the Ottomans were chiefly at Algiers, not Tunis, and from Ottoman Algeria came several attacks on Tunisia when under the Beys. The Ottomans soon removed the region of Constintine in the west and the region of Tripoli in the east from the traditional possessions of Tunisia. The Ottomans control in Tunisia was de facto only a short period, and did not survive the establishment of the Beys. In theory the Ottomans claimed a de jure presence until the French occupation, yet the Beys acted as sovereigns. Concurrently and secondarily, this History of Tunisia article may serve also as an reference for the Ottoman Empire's occupation of, and later its influence at, Tunis. Elfelix ( talk) 05:57, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
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The title and the infobox are misleading: while the article is talking about "Ottoman Tunisia", the infobox only talks about the Eyalet and Mouradid periods, and the reader could think that Turkish rule ended in 1707 while it lasted until 1881. Note that this article also includes information on the 1707-1881 period.
On the other hand, Tunis was also a Beylik under the Muradid dynasty from 1613 to 1702, a period exclusively covered by this article.
-- Omar-toons ( talk) 11:53, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
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The current title is bad because the Beylik of Tunis was also nominally Ottoman. Srnec ( talk) 21:13, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
The article needs copy-editing, but while I was doing some (initially minor) revising I came across a claim (that the beylerbey of Algiers ruled Tunis for a time after its Ottoman conquest in 1574), which had no support in the sources cited (or in other sources as far as I know). I found other points where there were quotes that couldn't be found in the cited source, or were in a source other than the one cited next to the quote, etc. These may be accidental misreadings of the references and/or accidental misplacement of citations, but this and the overall style raises concerns to me about further WP:OR, original WP:SYNTHESIS, or other verifiability issues in the rest of the article. I've placed an original research maintenance template (the most appropriate one I could think of) to encourage editors to check that the cited sources actually support what is stated, especially if any information looks odd.
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Hello. Ottmane Algeria has changed to Regency of Algiers. I think the Regency of Tunis is appropriate for Tunisia. what do you all mean? THEGoldberg1 ( talk) 19:20, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
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This article was written as part of the History of Tunisia. Accordingly such should remain its primary status. Notwithstanding, Tunisia's Ottoman era was certainly important and interesting.
In the Maghrib, the Ottomans were chiefly at Algiers, not Tunis, and from Ottoman Algeria came several attacks on Tunisia when under the Beys. The Ottomans soon removed the region of Constintine in the west and the region of Tripoli in the east from the traditional possessions of Tunisia. The Ottomans control in Tunisia was de facto only a short period, and did not survive the establishment of the Beys. In theory the Ottomans claimed a de jure presence until the French occupation, yet the Beys acted as sovereigns. Concurrently and secondarily, this History of Tunisia article may serve also as an reference for the Ottoman Empire's occupation of, and later its influence at, Tunis. Elfelix ( talk) 05:57, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
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The title and the infobox are misleading: while the article is talking about "Ottoman Tunisia", the infobox only talks about the Eyalet and Mouradid periods, and the reader could think that Turkish rule ended in 1707 while it lasted until 1881. Note that this article also includes information on the 1707-1881 period.
On the other hand, Tunis was also a Beylik under the Muradid dynasty from 1613 to 1702, a period exclusively covered by this article.
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The current title is bad because the Beylik of Tunis was also nominally Ottoman. Srnec ( talk) 21:13, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
The article needs copy-editing, but while I was doing some (initially minor) revising I came across a claim (that the beylerbey of Algiers ruled Tunis for a time after its Ottoman conquest in 1574), which had no support in the sources cited (or in other sources as far as I know). I found other points where there were quotes that couldn't be found in the cited source, or were in a source other than the one cited next to the quote, etc. These may be accidental misreadings of the references and/or accidental misplacement of citations, but this and the overall style raises concerns to me about further WP:OR, original WP:SYNTHESIS, or other verifiability issues in the rest of the article. I've placed an original research maintenance template (the most appropriate one I could think of) to encourage editors to check that the cited sources actually support what is stated, especially if any information looks odd.
Aside from this, the article might benefit from a slightly more chronological approach, which might also reduce some overlap and repetition between sections that are not that well defined at the moment. R Prazeres ( talk) 18:03, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
Hello. Ottmane Algeria has changed to Regency of Algiers. I think the Regency of Tunis is appropriate for Tunisia. what do you all mean? THEGoldberg1 ( talk) 19:20, 21 August 2023 (UTC)