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Does it make sense to limit new additions to this list?
Is it appropriate at this stage of the article's development to initiate a standard limiting names on this select list to
This diff is a first step in seeking consensus opinion. In a context informed by practices which seem to have worked out well at Navy Cross, all new additions who aren't already featured in an article are re-redirected to this talk page section with the following edit history explanation:
The names of those recipients whose award is confirmed by a reliable source, but who do not have an article yet are listed below:
In due course, perhaps all of these can be restored to the article. -- Tenmei ( talk) 17:54, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was: Not Moved. Due to this discussion, the Korean award's article is now at Order of Cultural Merit with hatnotes on each article thanks to Dekimasu, so there is no confict in the two articles' English titles. Station1 ( talk) 04:42, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Order of Culture → Order of Culture (Japan) — South Korea's national merit awarded to people who significantly contribute to Korean culture is also named "Order of Culture" [1] and uses the same Chinese character with the Japanese one. I'm not sure as to whether the name is applied to PRC or POC or other countries'. The article for the Korean national merit is not created yet, but there are many articles on recipients such as Patti Kim. This request also applies to Category:Order of Culture recipients So the title and article at Order of Culture should remain as a disamibugation page. Since Medals of Honour (Japan) and Military Medals of Honor (Japan) use "(Japan)" instead of "of Japan", this request is consistent with the Japanese naming convention.-- Caspian blue 22:50, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
My contributions to this not-very-complicated thread have been informed by a four-prong examination at each and every point in a predicatbly escalating drama:
Can't we agree that this provides a commonly accepted foundation for our work together. -- Tenmei ( talk) 02:15, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
WP:TL;DR. Wonderful, Tenmei, as always. In just skimming through your lengthy reply to me, it is a good move on my part that I contacted ArbCom for your above breach on your WP:ArbCom sanction because this pattern of your disruption and incivility have been continued and so large. If you just commented about my request for the move like the other editors have commented, then we could just discuss in peacefully. Of course, I did not know the existence of Order of Cultural Merit (Korea), and if I've known, I would have linked it to Patti Kim, a recently created article by me. None had come here to discuss about for the past 9 days until today. My request for the move is related to the article as I've said. The request is based on the same "Chinese words", so I thought it is worthy to bring up to discuss instead of WP:BOLDly moving the article. However, since you're no intention to retract your inappropriate comments but rather added more snide comments based on your long-term grudge which are considered as your violations, well, will see how the things going. Thanks. I think I've given too many chances on your violations since the last June.-- Caspian blue 02:39, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Article titles on the English Wikipedia are determined by English usage, not the usage of Chinese characters. Separately, there have been some moves made to create disambiguation pages for the Chinese characters themselves when they can be interpreted in an ambiguous fashion. That may be appropriate here, but only if we think it's possible that a user would put the Chinese characters into the search box on the English Wikipedia. As for the English names, they do not conflict and need not have parentheticals. It is unfortunate that Order of Cultural Merit was a redlink. I have moved Order of Cultural Merit (Korea) there per this discussion and added hatnotes to both articles. I think that this should be sufficient regardless of the arguments above, which have unfortunately strayed from the intended subject of discussion. If the objective of the move request itself is not resolved by this, please let me know how. Otherwise, I hope that someone uninvolved from WP:RM will add a closing statement to this discussion. Dekimasu よ! 03:18, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
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I cannot edit this page, but she passed away on 11/09/2021. Can someone do the updating? Here's the updated Japanese Wikipedia page for further references. Thanks.
https://ja.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%80%AC%E6%88%B8%E5%86%85%E5%AF%82%E8%81%B4 Grammarian3.14159265359 ( talk) 04:30, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
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Does it make sense to limit new additions to this list?
Is it appropriate at this stage of the article's development to initiate a standard limiting names on this select list to
This diff is a first step in seeking consensus opinion. In a context informed by practices which seem to have worked out well at Navy Cross, all new additions who aren't already featured in an article are re-redirected to this talk page section with the following edit history explanation:
The names of those recipients whose award is confirmed by a reliable source, but who do not have an article yet are listed below:
In due course, perhaps all of these can be restored to the article. -- Tenmei ( talk) 17:54, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was: Not Moved. Due to this discussion, the Korean award's article is now at Order of Cultural Merit with hatnotes on each article thanks to Dekimasu, so there is no confict in the two articles' English titles. Station1 ( talk) 04:42, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Order of Culture → Order of Culture (Japan) — South Korea's national merit awarded to people who significantly contribute to Korean culture is also named "Order of Culture" [1] and uses the same Chinese character with the Japanese one. I'm not sure as to whether the name is applied to PRC or POC or other countries'. The article for the Korean national merit is not created yet, but there are many articles on recipients such as Patti Kim. This request also applies to Category:Order of Culture recipients So the title and article at Order of Culture should remain as a disamibugation page. Since Medals of Honour (Japan) and Military Medals of Honor (Japan) use "(Japan)" instead of "of Japan", this request is consistent with the Japanese naming convention.-- Caspian blue 22:50, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
My contributions to this not-very-complicated thread have been informed by a four-prong examination at each and every point in a predicatbly escalating drama:
Can't we agree that this provides a commonly accepted foundation for our work together. -- Tenmei ( talk) 02:15, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
WP:TL;DR. Wonderful, Tenmei, as always. In just skimming through your lengthy reply to me, it is a good move on my part that I contacted ArbCom for your above breach on your WP:ArbCom sanction because this pattern of your disruption and incivility have been continued and so large. If you just commented about my request for the move like the other editors have commented, then we could just discuss in peacefully. Of course, I did not know the existence of Order of Cultural Merit (Korea), and if I've known, I would have linked it to Patti Kim, a recently created article by me. None had come here to discuss about for the past 9 days until today. My request for the move is related to the article as I've said. The request is based on the same "Chinese words", so I thought it is worthy to bring up to discuss instead of WP:BOLDly moving the article. However, since you're no intention to retract your inappropriate comments but rather added more snide comments based on your long-term grudge which are considered as your violations, well, will see how the things going. Thanks. I think I've given too many chances on your violations since the last June.-- Caspian blue 02:39, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Article titles on the English Wikipedia are determined by English usage, not the usage of Chinese characters. Separately, there have been some moves made to create disambiguation pages for the Chinese characters themselves when they can be interpreted in an ambiguous fashion. That may be appropriate here, but only if we think it's possible that a user would put the Chinese characters into the search box on the English Wikipedia. As for the English names, they do not conflict and need not have parentheticals. It is unfortunate that Order of Cultural Merit was a redlink. I have moved Order of Cultural Merit (Korea) there per this discussion and added hatnotes to both articles. I think that this should be sufficient regardless of the arguments above, which have unfortunately strayed from the intended subject of discussion. If the objective of the move request itself is not resolved by this, please let me know how. Otherwise, I hope that someone uninvolved from WP:RM will add a closing statement to this discussion. Dekimasu よ! 03:18, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
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I cannot edit this page, but she passed away on 11/09/2021. Can someone do the updating? Here's the updated Japanese Wikipedia page for further references. Thanks.
https://ja.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%80%AC%E6%88%B8%E5%86%85%E5%AF%82%E8%81%B4 Grammarian3.14159265359 ( talk) 04:30, 11 November 2021 (UTC)