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The article neglects to mention that the first clinical description of OCD was by Abu Zayd al-Balkhi in the 9th century work Sustenance of the Body and Soul.
For details, see "Obsessional Disorders in al-Balkhi鈥瞫 9th century treatise: Sustenance of the Body and Soul" published in the Journal of Affective Disorders, Volume 180, 15 July 2015, Pages 185-189.
I am including the abstract below:
Morbid fears and phobias have been mentioned in religious, philosophical and medical manuscripts since ancient times. Despite early insights by the Greeks, phobias did not appear as a separate clinical phenomenon in Western medicine until the 17th century and has evolved substantially since. However, robust investigations attempting to decipher the clinical nature of phobias emerged in pre-modern times during the oft-overlooked Islamic Golden Era (9th鈥12th centuries); which overlapped with Europe鈥檚 medieval period. An innovative attempt was made by the 9th century Muslim scholar, Abu Zayd al-Balkhi, in his medical manuscript 鈥淪ustenance of the Body and Soul,鈥 to define phobias as a separate diagnostic entity. Al-Balkhi was one of the earliest to cluster psychological and physical symptoms of phobias under one category, 鈥渁l-Faza谩鈥, and outline a specific management plan. We analyze al-Balkhi鈥檚 description of phobias, according to the modern understanding of psychiatric classifications and symptomatology as described in the DSM-5.
I noticed that the main image for this article is a picture of a person washing their hands. Doesn't this just perpetuate the myth that all people with OCD have obsessions with germs?
Don't get me wrong, I realize that many people with OCD do have obsessions and compulsions having to do with germs, but it seems that is one of the most common stereotypes of people with OCD, and I believe the image is only perpetuating the stereotype. I must admit that I don't have any idea of what to change it to, sorry. Should the image be changed, and if so, any idea what it should be changed to? Thanks!
JohnLaurensAnthonyRamos333 ( correct me if I'm wrong) 08:37, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
Suspicious this it is missing 84.65.147.100 ( talk) 09:09, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
I know a few users discussed changing the images on the OCD page to better reflect this condition, and shy away from stereotyping. I drafted up a potential gallery to include after the 'Introduction' in my sandbox, and included two potential main images. I understand we discussed wanting to maybe do a gallery, but I was unable to edit the template to include more than two images. A gallery may be nice! Here is a link to my sandbox: [1] https://w.wiki/9yhp If I get some approvals, I'll add this to the page. Sherlocke ( talk) 21:41, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
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Based on the source referenced: The National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) (January 2016). "What is Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD)?". U.S. National Institutes of Health (NIH). Archived from the original on 23 July 2016. Retrieved 24 July 2016.Cite error: There are <ref>
tags on this page without content in them (see the
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PianoDan (
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Why is the first line of the article worded like this?
"a mental and behavioral disorder in which (...)in which an individual has intrusive thoughts (an obsession) and feels the need to perform certain routines (compulsions) repeatedly to relieve the distress caused by the obsession"
OCD behaviours are not necessarily routines or rituals. And to put "compulsions" in parantheses afterwards seems to suggest that a compulsion, in this context, is synonymous with ritualistic behaviours.
I propose that the phrasing "feels the need to perform certain behaviours (compulsions) to relieve the distress caused by the obsession, often repeatedly" would be more accurate. There's nothing in the first section of this article that would tell me that compulsive behaviours can come in any form, and that they aren't always repetitive. Sjokolade1998 ( talk) 15:17, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
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The article neglects to mention that the first clinical description of OCD was by Abu Zayd al-Balkhi in the 9th century work Sustenance of the Body and Soul.
For details, see "Obsessional Disorders in al-Balkhi鈥瞫 9th century treatise: Sustenance of the Body and Soul" published in the Journal of Affective Disorders, Volume 180, 15 July 2015, Pages 185-189.
I am including the abstract below:
Morbid fears and phobias have been mentioned in religious, philosophical and medical manuscripts since ancient times. Despite early insights by the Greeks, phobias did not appear as a separate clinical phenomenon in Western medicine until the 17th century and has evolved substantially since. However, robust investigations attempting to decipher the clinical nature of phobias emerged in pre-modern times during the oft-overlooked Islamic Golden Era (9th鈥12th centuries); which overlapped with Europe鈥檚 medieval period. An innovative attempt was made by the 9th century Muslim scholar, Abu Zayd al-Balkhi, in his medical manuscript 鈥淪ustenance of the Body and Soul,鈥 to define phobias as a separate diagnostic entity. Al-Balkhi was one of the earliest to cluster psychological and physical symptoms of phobias under one category, 鈥渁l-Faza谩鈥, and outline a specific management plan. We analyze al-Balkhi鈥檚 description of phobias, according to the modern understanding of psychiatric classifications and symptomatology as described in the DSM-5.
I noticed that the main image for this article is a picture of a person washing their hands. Doesn't this just perpetuate the myth that all people with OCD have obsessions with germs?
Don't get me wrong, I realize that many people with OCD do have obsessions and compulsions having to do with germs, but it seems that is one of the most common stereotypes of people with OCD, and I believe the image is only perpetuating the stereotype. I must admit that I don't have any idea of what to change it to, sorry. Should the image be changed, and if so, any idea what it should be changed to? Thanks!
JohnLaurensAnthonyRamos333 ( correct me if I'm wrong) 08:37, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
Suspicious this it is missing 84.65.147.100 ( talk) 09:09, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
I know a few users discussed changing the images on the OCD page to better reflect this condition, and shy away from stereotyping. I drafted up a potential gallery to include after the 'Introduction' in my sandbox, and included two potential main images. I understand we discussed wanting to maybe do a gallery, but I was unable to edit the template to include more than two images. A gallery may be nice! Here is a link to my sandbox: [1] https://w.wiki/9yhp If I get some approvals, I'll add this to the page. Sherlocke ( talk) 21:41, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
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Please change 鈥淩isk Factors鈥 from
鈥淐hild Abuse and Stress鈥
to
鈥淕enetics, Biology, Temperaments and Childhood Trauma鈥.
Based on the source referenced: The National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) (January 2016). "What is Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD)?". U.S. National Institutes of Health (NIH). Archived from the original on 23 July 2016. Retrieved 24 July 2016.Cite error: There are <ref>
tags on this page without content in them (see the
help page).
Shepalovelace81 (
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11:21, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
聽Done
PianoDan (
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17:38, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
Why is the first line of the article worded like this?
"a mental and behavioral disorder in which (...)in which an individual has intrusive thoughts (an obsession) and feels the need to perform certain routines (compulsions) repeatedly to relieve the distress caused by the obsession"
OCD behaviours are not necessarily routines or rituals. And to put "compulsions" in parantheses afterwards seems to suggest that a compulsion, in this context, is synonymous with ritualistic behaviours.
I propose that the phrasing "feels the need to perform certain behaviours (compulsions) to relieve the distress caused by the obsession, often repeatedly" would be more accurate. There's nothing in the first section of this article that would tell me that compulsive behaviours can come in any form, and that they aren't always repetitive. Sjokolade1998 ( talk) 15:17, 20 June 2024 (UTC)