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This article should not be speedy deleted as lacking sufficient context to identify its subject, because... (your reason here) -- Bussta33 ( talk) 17:51, 17 March 2015 (UTC) This article is small because not much info surrounding the topic has been released. So far, every major video game platform has an article on Wikipedia. Today, a new major game platform was announced by Nintendo. It WILL see its own article sooner or later, that's 100% certain. And I believe Wikipedia knows that. The platform was only announced mere hours ago. More info will not be released for quite some time. However, as a encyclopedia, people should have the certainty that they can visit Wikipedia to find info about this platform. Because if this article is deleted, which wouldn't make any sense, it will receive its own article again in the near future. There's no point in deleting it. Every article on Wikipedia starts off small. Once more info is released, this article will grow significantly.
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Currently, this article needs to be redirected, as it is WP:TOOSOON for it to have its own article.
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Alright, I went ahead and redirected this, per the unanimous results in this discussion. I also tried to move it to the draft space per Steel1943. However, I must admit, I've done very little moving of articles to draft space - not sure I did it right. Salvidrim!? Can you double check it for me? Or fix it if I messed up? Sergecross73 msg me 12:41, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
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Could each of these redirects ( Nintendo NX, Project NX, and NX (gaming platform)) please have the following rcat tags added to them:
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Thanks! Steel1943 ( talk) 01:30, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
I've been hearing more and more about the NX. Maybe it could be worth publishing the draft? This Digitimes article has been reported on by many of the regular outlets ( Gamespot, IGN, CinemaBlend, SlashGear), discussing the start of the manufacturing process, and the fact development kits have gone out to developpers already. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 04:40, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
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The NX has been officialy announced, the Console should have it's own article, any news can be put on this page Jerrylee16 ( talk) 17:13, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
Since games are starting to be announced, and the system is rumored to be revealed in September, (meaning we'll probably create the article soon) I figured I'd start a draft for a "list of games" too. Its at User:Sergecross73/List of NX games. Feel free to add to it as more are announced. Sergecross73 msg me 13:23, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
I believe it's almost time to bring this into the mainspace. The Nintendo NX reveal is TOMORROW! (Excuse me while I go yell it to the world!) I'm going to go ahead and "reserve a space" for getting consensus on moving this article (once all the WP:CRYSTALBALL stuff and userspace links are removed) into the mainspace. Remember that, if we do move this to the mainspace, someone who can move over redirects will have to do it. — Gestrid ( talk) 01:22, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
The Switch logo should qualify at minimum as PD-USonly, at the moment can't remember how threshold of originality works for Japan, but we can readily include the logo on en.wiki.
As we are not likely to get free unit pictures until closer to release, I do believe there are a few good representative images from Nintendo's patent filings that help to demonstrate the nature of the unit. I have to check the specific patents closer, but patents are generally not covered by copyright law unless specific language is placed into the patent by the filer. -- MASEM ( t) 14:45, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
I've uploaded four different versions of the logo over at the Commons category. Currently, I've opted for the wordmark-free transparent logo for the .en wikipedia's article, because it looks aesthetically better for the infobox, in my personal opinion, than the other three versions I've uploaded for use on Commons. Plus, the name "Nintendo Switch" name is already in the infobox as part of its title. Philip Terry Graham 19:03, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
The official publishing partner list (or a sample of it) has been confirmed: http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/20/13345640/nintendo-switch-third-party-support-bethesda-ea-activision/in/13110115. This is significant because of the lack of publishing partners for the Wii U. — Gestrid ( talk) 16:02, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
in case it turns out this is a ninth gen system, i made a ninth gen placeholder article History of video game consoles (ninth generation) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Assassin1503 ( talk • contribs) 16:43, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
There seems to be some debate on this. http://www.polygon.com/2016/10/20/13347910/nintendo-switch-home-gaming-system reports that the positioning seem to be "home console" first. I've seen some argument that this could just be marketing speak, but...I haven't actually seen a policy/source based argument for "portable first" either.
Or maybe there's a third or compromise approach possible. Wasn't so much trying to solve the issue as just getting discussion going. Thoughts? Sergecross73 msg me 18:24, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
Would this picture be able to be used in this article to illustrate how many developers have confirmed they are working with Nintendo? — Gestrid ( talk) 22:42, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
Hello, according to sources:
( http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/10/nintendo_declines_to_comment_on_touchscreen_enquiry_but_confirms_switch_dock_and_amiibo_features) ( http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/10/20/nintendo-confirms-amiibo-support-for-nintendo-switch-clarifies-additional-features)
Nintendo confirmed to IGN that the Nintendo Switch "absolutely" supports amiibo,
Can we add this in to the document ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DonniH ( talk • contribs) 00:54, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
The infobox looks a little crowded at the top with the way the images are. They take up half of it. Would it be better to move the pictures of the console down to the Hardware section and, when a better one becomes available, put that one in the infobox instead? I've already tested out the way the image of the console would look in the hardware section using the Preview button, and it looks fine to me. — Gestrid ( talk) 03:04, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
Why is that relevant? The GBA was released only three years after the GBC, and the DS was released only three years after the GBA. The 3DS was released 'only' six years after the DS too, give or take a couple of months. Similar happened with the home consoles. In fact, 5-6 years is a pretty standard timeline for a home console. ElectricWizard 0 ( talk) 11:20, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
I've protected the page, since there has been so much vandalism from IPs an new users lately. If you are locked out of editing the article, feel free to post your request in this section, and upon approval/ consensus supporting it, someone will add it to the article for you. Thanks. Sergecross73 msg me 13:25, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
Surely the article should start with "The Nintendo Switch"..., like "The Wii", "The Wii U" etc. -- Liquidmetalrob ( talk) 17:22, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
What kind of media will the system have? It doesn't look like it will be running optical media. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.54.129.25 ( talk) 17:29, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
No one talks about whether the Nintendo Switch may be region free or not? - yhynerson1 ( talk) 06:34, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
Do we really need to list so many publishers? While Nintendo's list is pretty long, that doesn't mean we need to list half of them in this article. (I'm not kidding. This article lists 24 out of the 48 publishers.) I suggest we thin out the list to about half its current length or less and only include the most prominent publishers. — Gestrid ( talk) 00:39, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
This is the next generation partial overlap with the DS-line and the Wii-line, has any of the press releases mentioned if this has 3D display support (or the pad is 3D?) and if the minicontrollers have motion sensors (like the Wii). The presense or absence of such features should be detailed into the article if such information is available -- 65.94.171.217 ( talk) 12:52, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
I would like to know exactly WHY the heck dates have to be in a certain and odd way! I love to keep the dates as I, ME, and Myself, see fit! I have a certain type of OCD, (doesn't really go along with what I'm talking about) where if I see something that bugs me a lot, I fix it to MY liking. Hopefully we can settle this right, cause I don't like the way you guys do things here. And anyone with the name 'Anonymous user' needs to be looked into very closely as they have some need for adding ridiculous edits. Zacharyalejandro ( talk) 22:05, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
What's gonna be the stance on this? Should we consider the Wii U the Switch's predecessor? Many news sites are reporting it as a successor and the Wii U Wikipedia page also lists it as such. Since they're both considered home consoles by Nintendo, it would make sense to treat switch as a successor to Wii U (no matter how different it is), similar to the Gamecube to Wii, and Wii to Wii U. Thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Max Lazy 10 ( talk • contribs) 17:52, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
Is this the start of the 9th generation of game consoles, as this is the successor to the Wii U?? TJD2 ( talk) 23:13, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
A couple of reliable sources outside of VG focused RS's have begun using "ninth generation": http://news.abs-cbn.com/life/10/22/16/nintendo-switch-what-you-should-expect http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/5-things-you-need-to-know-about-nintendos-new-switch-console-w445780
For what it's worth (Not much), the Nintendo Wikia has already labelled as 9th. I've seen a lot of "next-generation console" in VG RS's, but that language is iffy. It's clearly the "next" generation of Nintendo hardware, but does not necessarily mean the "next" industry generation, you know? I've also seen language like "last-generation" in referring to Wii U.
What I'm not seeing anywhere so far is sources referring to it as eighth generation or current generation. -- ferret ( talk) 13:01, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Eurogamer's sources say that Wii U will end production this week. Occum's Razor points to this even furthering proof that the Switch is meant as its successor but we do absolutely need sources from Nintendo itself to make the claim. But I would keep our eyes out for any such ones at the end of this week moving forward. -- MASEM ( t) 15:34, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
Eurogamer reports that the Switch is a capacitive multipoint touchscreen based on its sources that had affirmed the Switch details prior to the trailer. Obviously not N's own words, and thus I'm hesitant to include immediately, and looking for opinions before including it. -- MASEM ( t) 16:27, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
Could we request a page protection against numerous times anonymous users have made edits that are unsourced and/or ridiculous/silly information? I don't know why we don't these days to protect the pages who want people to know some true facts, and for people who are not in their right mind or thinking straight. Zacharyalejandro ( talk) 00:22, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
The official name of the console in Japan is just "Nintendo Switch". "Nintendo Switch" is also the name of the article on Japanese Wikipedia, where the majority of sources also refer to it by just the English name. Satellizer el Bridget (Talk) 02:55, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
One company has already started "taking pre-orders" (in a way), though it's taking them in a somewhat unique way. See:
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/11/random_game_opens_nintendo_switch_pre-orders_though_using_paypal_is_a_bad_idea
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What are people's thoughts on maybe doing some light revision here? The section seems a tad negative at the moment. Currently, the paragraph on the response from the financial analyst community is mostly expressing the views of a single NYT editorial and the analyst they quote. Obviously it's important that this reaction is communicated, but the system also received a more positive reception from other industry experts (contrast with here) and from chunks of the industry press. Maybe we can round up some more RSs in order to paint a broader picture? The rest of the section detailing industry response and the extent to which the reveal was popular online could also maybe be expanded. MarioFanNo1 ( talk) 06:05, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
GameXplain, which is unfortunately a YouTube channel, just conducted an interview with one of the actors from the Switch ad. (I'm not gonna say his Twitch username for fear of any profanity filters we have, but it's noted in the video's description.) He is one of the actors in the Splatoon scenes, the one that has a red jacket and a beard. Is this usable in any way in the article? (I realize we have WP:USERG.) — Gestrid ( talk) 02:15, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
Nintendo later stated that the footage on the Switch's screen does not necessarily reflect any confirmed titles for the system, and were only selected to demonstrate the Switch's range of functionality.— zziccardi ( talk) 22:01, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
Regarding the Joy-Con syntax - for consistency, which is proper?:
1) Joy-Con Controller or just Joy-Con (singular). Note: This seems redundant. Is the word "controller" part of the proper noun, or is it an adjective. In the Wii Remote article, for instance, the word "controller" is not part of the proper noun, the device is a "Wii Remote" or "Wiimote" not a "Wii Remote Controller".
2) Joy-Con Controllers or Joy-Cons? Or Is Joy-Con plural (e.g., I have two Joy-Con). - superβεεcat 19:48, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
according to a leak i heard of on youtube. 84.212.111.156 ( talk) 10:52, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
these lines are a proposal for the article:
At some locations it was stated that the SoC is a device called Tegra X2 along with main specs on cores that do quite well resemble what is already known with codename "Parker" or maybe T186 from the automotive "Drive" series. This means two Denver (customized ARM Arch64) cores, four ARM Cortex A57 (ARM Arch64) and a GPU core of the Pascal generation. [1] [2]
At least Nvidia themselves confirms that it "powers" the device and that it will provide a few APIs for it: https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2016/10/20/nintendo-switch/
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[3] (this is just one example). Like the issue of what the touchscreen was, I think this is one of those that we might want to consider putting in (with all necessary wrapper language to explain the origin), but not in the infobox yet. -- MASEM ( t) 23:13, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
Remember when Nintendo stated the DS wasn't a successor to the GBA or to the GameCube? Well, turns out it WAS a successor. Same thing here. 187.79.221.15 ( talk) 15:04, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
It seems like the 'used processor' thread has run out, but I tried to add specs of the Tegra processor as published by Ars Technica and Digital Foundry. These were reverted based on the desire to exclude leaked specs, despite these being reputable sources. While I understand the good faith desire to keep speculation out, I would disagree with this approach for a number of reasons. A similar discussion has occurred in a RfC here and an agreeable compromise was found. I believe this is a worthwhile compromise of phrasing in order to include specs published by reputable sources, but as yet unconfirmed by the manufacturer(s). Dbsseven ( talk) 18:06, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
I'm a little dubious about this particular line "Nintendo does not plan to sell the unit below manufacturing cost, as they had done for both the 3DS and Wii U at their respective launches" as I've always been under the impression that the 3DS was not initially priced below cost, but fell below that with it's massive price cut. Not sure where I could find a source on that though. -- Thunderbird8 ( talk) 03:21, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
"Nintendo just offered a unique entry in the eighth-generation console war versus Microsoft's Xbox One and Sony's PlayStation 4. " https://mic.com/articles/157262/nintendo-switch-features-multiplayer-screen-switching-possible-price-games-and-more#.xrEvYHLed
I noticed that article yesterday while browsing the web but didn't want to edit anything without discussion first. Although this is my first time weighing on the "generations" discussion Nintendo releasing an entirely new console while the "8th Gen" is only three years old and this console being part of the "8th Gen" isn't anything new. Looking back at Atari they had the 2600 and 5200 in the "2nd Gen" and both were different from each other and the 5200 wasn't backwards compatible out of the box with the 2600. Now granted that maybe a bad example but the "3rd Gen" has a closer example of this when Sega released the SG-1000 in 1983 then the Master System in 1985. Both of these consoles are considered part of the third gen and the release dates were about two years apart with the SG-1000 being discontinued shortly after the launch of the Master System. Another point to consider is Nintendo doesn't consider the Switch a successor to the Wii U that doesn't mean they will support both consoles on the market but could mean they consider Switch within the same gen or era as the Wii U in terms of competitors current product offerings. ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 12:16, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
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Users will be able to obtain a smartphone app that they can used to control the Switch.
Users will be able to obtain a smartphone app that they can use to control the Switch. 174.19.246.88 ( talk) 20:50, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
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Miyamoto was not as directly involved however, which allowed him to spend more title on Nintendo's software titles around the time, such as Super Mario Run.
Miyamoto was not as directly involved however, which allowed him to spend more time on Nintendo's software titles around the time, such as Super Mario Run. Rufioh ( talk) 00:43, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
As the price in Australia is considerably higher (AU$469.95) then a direct conversion from YEN, USD or CAD, it should be included.
Source here: http://www.nintendo.com.au/nintendo-switch-launches-on-3rd-march-2017
I've noticed a lot of people incorrectly doing direct conversions from YEN or USD.
Thanks. Richardboegli ( talk) 15:05, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
Now that we have public events featuring the Switch, the current picture at the top is now technically in violation of NFCC. I know that once the console is actually out and easily workable in the hands of consumers (rather than at display floors), that we'll likely get a good image from Evan-Amos ( talk · contribs) as they have done for nearly all of our game hardware, but until then, please look for any free images that you might be able to find or convince an image copyright taker to license freely. -- MASEM ( t) 15:13, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi, i made some pictures on a press event in Munich today. You can find them here: [4] Elvis untot ( talk) 21:26, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
For most Nintendo-related pages, the date format is MDY. However, in this particular article, the dates are in DMY. Yoshiman6464 ♫🥚 18:33, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
I've boldly changed to MDY, as no real opposition was voiced here. Note that List of Nintendo Switch games was already unified on MDY separately. -- ferret ( talk) 15:06, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
There's been a lot of shenanigans with the logo on top of the infobox. @ Pincerr wanted the red opaque background version of the logo to serve as the lead. His reasoning was as follows - " Seems the red logo is the actual one, judging from both media and the official website." This doesn't really make sense, because there are many variations of the logo that can be found all across Nintendo's website. Generally, opaque backgrounds, especially coloured ones, have been avoided simply because it intrudes on the clean design of the infobox. Having a small, red square on top of a larger rectangular image, which are all encased in a larger rectangle (the infobox itself) makes for a rather unprofessional look. So, I've made a compromise. I've installed a version of the logo that is transparent, which is what I want, but keeps the red color that I'm assuming Pincerr likes and wants to keep. However, I'm not too fond of this red logo, because it is quite the eyesore, similar to one of those blue LED checkout signs that some supermarkets have. I'd argue it's possibly an accessibility issue, though admittedly when I skimmed MOS:ACCESS, I couldn't find anything about poorly colored imagery. So, what do you guys think? Should we revert back to the neutral version of the logo, or keep the red version? Philip Terry Graham 08:33, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
While commenting on the infobox logo discussion above, I came across another interesting thing in the red logo. The two logos shown here above have a slight different tone of red in them (the second is darker). The first logo's description claims it is from a promotional image on Nintendo's official website ( http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/cocoon/noa3/images/page/switch/gallery/gallery01.jpg). I checked it and yes it's correct, so I assumed the first logo is the correct red color, - but after looking at the official Switch website ( http://www.nintendo.com/switch/) the red color actually matches the second logo, not the first. The thing here is, both of them are official from Nintendo's sites, so it's weird. What are your thoughts? -- Pincerr ( talk) 19:44, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
We have our first source that clearly called Nintendo Switch a ninth generation console: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAHqz7bdFwI Are YouTube videos appropriate as a source? Max Lazy 10 ( talk) 15:47, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
Okay how's this for a new source? Rolling Stone called it ninth gen in the following article: http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/5-things-you-need-to-know-about-nintendos-new-switch-console-w445780 Max Lazy 10 ( talk) 20:07, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
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I'm sorry if I'm not very good at formatting but, frankly, Rolling Stone Magazine, nor online edition, should not ever be considered a reputable source for video games, the video game industry, nor for critical analysis of the artistic elements, nor business practices, within this field. Not only is the number of errors, bad calls, and unethical review policies too numerous to even bother citing a source, but no industry-vetted journalist has Ever cited the magazine as an expert source, or opinion, that I've ever heard of, and, unless things have changed very very recently, I don't even think they have anyone on staff who is an industry-vetted journalist to even bother citing. I'm sorry, but I can't let that pass without a bit of my scorn. Sam ( talk) 01:07, 18 January 2017 (UTC) Checkmate824 17th January, 2017 ed: WOOT SWITCH HYPE WOOT and I don't think "9th" generation should be defined so quickly, especially considering the wierd environment in the industry at this time, with all the PS4.5s going around. Having said that, there are many examples of multiple consoles being released, by the same company, within what is considered a generation within the industry as a whole; Nintendo being a prominent example. But, as I said, it's too early to tell, if these companies supporting the PS4 and Xb1, their Wii Us, their 3DSs and their Switches, within 10 years, then I think they'd all fit in nicely as the 8th Generation, but maybe a new competitor, or new system could change that. My main worry is that this debate has less to do with history and more to do with fandom insecurities.... just saying. WOOT SWITCH HYPE! WOOT Sam ( talk) 01:14, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
For one, half of it is outdated, due to ongoing events, but another thing I noticed is the system hasn't been released yet, and most of the reception cited, comes with that caveat, so.... is this really a "Reception" section, or a "News" section? It just felt odd to me, but I suppose the word "Reception" technically applies, just to the promotional material and not the system itself, which is the purview of the article. Altho! I feel much of this Would fit nicely, with a little reworking, into the "Switch" section of the main "Nintendo" article. Not sure if I'm off-base on this, or not.... Sam ( talk) 01:37, 19 January 2017 (UTC) or maybe it could be moved into a deeper section called "Announcement" or something, cuz a lot of this would be noteworthy, even after the release of the system. Sam ( talk) 01:38, 19 January 2017 (UTC) @ Ferret: I can't stand waiting around, what do You think? (i saw you've worked on this article) Sam ( talk) 01:41, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
And in the "joy-con" section, can someone change "ABXY buttons" to "A, B, X, and Y buttons." Thank-you. 2602:306:374A:8F70:C1E6:6A5E:913D:B1D2 ( talk) 19:17, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
What's your problem? I just wanted to know if anybody knew the price. 2602:306:374A:8F70:C1E6:6A5E:913D:B1D2 ( talk) 20:16, 25 January 2017 (UTC) Oh, I see what you meant by "last time." The only reason I asked again is because the first time I asked it disappeared. 2602:306:374A:8F70:C1E6:6A5E:913D:B1D2 ( talk) 20:18, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
Got it! and sorry. 2602:306:374A:8F70:C1E6:6A5E:913D:B1D2 ( talk) 20:42, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
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In the second paragraph, the quote "The Joy-Con are motion-sensitive, and include high-definition tactical feedback to the user." should use the word tactile instead of tactical. BobLincolnExtraordinaire ( talk) 15:32, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
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please change ((Bloomberg)) to ((Bloomberg News|Bloomberg)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:541:4305:C70:78DE:A5C5:CB8B:D516 ( talk • contribs)
However, this one may possibly maybe work. Please see and comment on Talk:Wii U#I found a source that says that the Wii U succeeded by the Nintendo Switch console, which was just posted by EquestriaGirlsFan2003. — Gestrid ( talk) 05:04, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
According to a interview that Tatsumi Kimishima had with Nikkei earlier this week, Nintendo is currently "studying" VR and can possibly add it to the Switch once they figure out how users can play for hours without any issues. Here is the link. Could be good as a future reference point. 195.67.78.50 ( talk) 10:16, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
As Nintendo plans to release its new console this coming March, will that mark the beginning of the ninth generation of video games? 47.152.93.124 ( talk) 14:36, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Why are some users keep making such edits that are vandalism and good faith and keep doing them, no matter how they are reverted back? This is getting way out of hand and kinda need a page protection against vandalism and good faith edits. Can we request a semi-page protection? Zacharyalejandro ( talk) 15:50, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
Not being a gamer, I am alien to the culture, but by the sound of it the concept of generations strongly recalls the early 1970s in the computer field. Up to then we had had the first, second, and third generations, and it had worked because one could look at a machine and fairly confidently assign a generation, which basically was defined by whether, or to what extent, the machine was based on valves, transistors, or the degree of integration of the circuits. (There was an occasional mutter about "Zeroth gen electro-mechanical machines, and I cannot remember anyone assigning Babbage a generation, but that was mainly a bit of argy-bargy among academics, not an industry problem.)
About then however companies began to produce fourth generation machines, which was fair enough, except that no one could agree on what made a machine post-3rd generation. It had become a matter of advertising, rather than industry realities. (Sounds familiar?)
The essence of the problem, though it was not very soon recognised, was that the range of directions of technological development and their adoption was starting to explode, and the cross-fertilisation and extinction were non-generational, too confused and overlapping to classify usefully and too rapid to call. Everything entered into the shouting matches; hardware, software, firmware, central memory, mass data storage devices, you name it. I seem to remember a few 5th-gen calls, but about then it became too nonsensical to be taken seriously, and the classification battlefield focus shifted to the mainframe/minicomputer/microcomputer distinctions, which have since blurred in their turn; in the mid-seventies I was the first to my knowledge to point out that that distinction had evolved into a question of how the system was used, rather than its techology.
Meanwhile the g-word has practically disappeared in the computer field; not because it was good or bad, or right or wrong, but because generation was rarely relevant any more. Not that technology had stood still; but because advances had stampeded in so many dimensions that classifications were rarely meaningful enough to be relevant outside the academic fields any more and the advertising industry largely abandoned them as having lost their sell.
So in gaming, I leave it to you people. If the concept is meaningless or too volatile to remain useful, it cannot be of fundamental interest to an encyclopaedia and its relevance is no more than the relevance of any other advertising cliches -- OK if advertising and buzzwords are the topics, but not to be permitted in an article in the sense of technical description. And even in advertising there is a lot of overlap (annual cycle? 3-year cycle? 5-year? Moore's law cycle?) I do not say that the word must be banned, but urge that we avoid it till except where avoiding it would take an effort. Shouldn't even be worth wasting talk page space on. It is like describing clothing fashions or tennis stars; they come and go and return and vanish. Whether so much as to mention them, let alone take them seriously, is a sensitive point, and rarely important or stable enough to be worth it. By way of comparison, have a read of some tennis star articles, as compared to chemistry or maths. JonRichfield ( talk) 07:08, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
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This article should not be speedy deleted as lacking sufficient context to identify its subject, because... (your reason here) -- Bussta33 ( talk) 17:51, 17 March 2015 (UTC) This article is small because not much info surrounding the topic has been released. So far, every major video game platform has an article on Wikipedia. Today, a new major game platform was announced by Nintendo. It WILL see its own article sooner or later, that's 100% certain. And I believe Wikipedia knows that. The platform was only announced mere hours ago. More info will not be released for quite some time. However, as a encyclopedia, people should have the certainty that they can visit Wikipedia to find info about this platform. Because if this article is deleted, which wouldn't make any sense, it will receive its own article again in the near future. There's no point in deleting it. Every article on Wikipedia starts off small. Once more info is released, this article will grow significantly.
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Currently, this article needs to be redirected, as it is WP:TOOSOON for it to have its own article.
Thoughts? (Support = redirect, Oppose = Keeping article)
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Alright, I went ahead and redirected this, per the unanimous results in this discussion. I also tried to move it to the draft space per Steel1943. However, I must admit, I've done very little moving of articles to draft space - not sure I did it right. Salvidrim!? Can you double check it for me? Or fix it if I messed up? Sergecross73 msg me 12:41, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
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Could each of these redirects ( Nintendo NX, Project NX, and NX (gaming platform)) please have the following rcat tags added to them:
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Thanks! Steel1943 ( talk) 01:30, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
I've been hearing more and more about the NX. Maybe it could be worth publishing the draft? This Digitimes article has been reported on by many of the regular outlets ( Gamespot, IGN, CinemaBlend, SlashGear), discussing the start of the manufacturing process, and the fact development kits have gone out to developpers already. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 04:40, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
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The NX has been officialy announced, the Console should have it's own article, any news can be put on this page Jerrylee16 ( talk) 17:13, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
Since games are starting to be announced, and the system is rumored to be revealed in September, (meaning we'll probably create the article soon) I figured I'd start a draft for a "list of games" too. Its at User:Sergecross73/List of NX games. Feel free to add to it as more are announced. Sergecross73 msg me 13:23, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
I believe it's almost time to bring this into the mainspace. The Nintendo NX reveal is TOMORROW! (Excuse me while I go yell it to the world!) I'm going to go ahead and "reserve a space" for getting consensus on moving this article (once all the WP:CRYSTALBALL stuff and userspace links are removed) into the mainspace. Remember that, if we do move this to the mainspace, someone who can move over redirects will have to do it. — Gestrid ( talk) 01:22, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
The Switch logo should qualify at minimum as PD-USonly, at the moment can't remember how threshold of originality works for Japan, but we can readily include the logo on en.wiki.
As we are not likely to get free unit pictures until closer to release, I do believe there are a few good representative images from Nintendo's patent filings that help to demonstrate the nature of the unit. I have to check the specific patents closer, but patents are generally not covered by copyright law unless specific language is placed into the patent by the filer. -- MASEM ( t) 14:45, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
I've uploaded four different versions of the logo over at the Commons category. Currently, I've opted for the wordmark-free transparent logo for the .en wikipedia's article, because it looks aesthetically better for the infobox, in my personal opinion, than the other three versions I've uploaded for use on Commons. Plus, the name "Nintendo Switch" name is already in the infobox as part of its title. Philip Terry Graham 19:03, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
The official publishing partner list (or a sample of it) has been confirmed: http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/20/13345640/nintendo-switch-third-party-support-bethesda-ea-activision/in/13110115. This is significant because of the lack of publishing partners for the Wii U. — Gestrid ( talk) 16:02, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
in case it turns out this is a ninth gen system, i made a ninth gen placeholder article History of video game consoles (ninth generation) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Assassin1503 ( talk • contribs) 16:43, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
There seems to be some debate on this. http://www.polygon.com/2016/10/20/13347910/nintendo-switch-home-gaming-system reports that the positioning seem to be "home console" first. I've seen some argument that this could just be marketing speak, but...I haven't actually seen a policy/source based argument for "portable first" either.
Or maybe there's a third or compromise approach possible. Wasn't so much trying to solve the issue as just getting discussion going. Thoughts? Sergecross73 msg me 18:24, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
Would this picture be able to be used in this article to illustrate how many developers have confirmed they are working with Nintendo? — Gestrid ( talk) 22:42, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
Hello, according to sources:
( http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/10/nintendo_declines_to_comment_on_touchscreen_enquiry_but_confirms_switch_dock_and_amiibo_features) ( http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/10/20/nintendo-confirms-amiibo-support-for-nintendo-switch-clarifies-additional-features)
Nintendo confirmed to IGN that the Nintendo Switch "absolutely" supports amiibo,
Can we add this in to the document ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DonniH ( talk • contribs) 00:54, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
The infobox looks a little crowded at the top with the way the images are. They take up half of it. Would it be better to move the pictures of the console down to the Hardware section and, when a better one becomes available, put that one in the infobox instead? I've already tested out the way the image of the console would look in the hardware section using the Preview button, and it looks fine to me. — Gestrid ( talk) 03:04, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
Why is that relevant? The GBA was released only three years after the GBC, and the DS was released only three years after the GBA. The 3DS was released 'only' six years after the DS too, give or take a couple of months. Similar happened with the home consoles. In fact, 5-6 years is a pretty standard timeline for a home console. ElectricWizard 0 ( talk) 11:20, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
I've protected the page, since there has been so much vandalism from IPs an new users lately. If you are locked out of editing the article, feel free to post your request in this section, and upon approval/ consensus supporting it, someone will add it to the article for you. Thanks. Sergecross73 msg me 13:25, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
Surely the article should start with "The Nintendo Switch"..., like "The Wii", "The Wii U" etc. -- Liquidmetalrob ( talk) 17:22, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
What kind of media will the system have? It doesn't look like it will be running optical media. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.54.129.25 ( talk) 17:29, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
No one talks about whether the Nintendo Switch may be region free or not? - yhynerson1 ( talk) 06:34, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
Do we really need to list so many publishers? While Nintendo's list is pretty long, that doesn't mean we need to list half of them in this article. (I'm not kidding. This article lists 24 out of the 48 publishers.) I suggest we thin out the list to about half its current length or less and only include the most prominent publishers. — Gestrid ( talk) 00:39, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
This is the next generation partial overlap with the DS-line and the Wii-line, has any of the press releases mentioned if this has 3D display support (or the pad is 3D?) and if the minicontrollers have motion sensors (like the Wii). The presense or absence of such features should be detailed into the article if such information is available -- 65.94.171.217 ( talk) 12:52, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
I would like to know exactly WHY the heck dates have to be in a certain and odd way! I love to keep the dates as I, ME, and Myself, see fit! I have a certain type of OCD, (doesn't really go along with what I'm talking about) where if I see something that bugs me a lot, I fix it to MY liking. Hopefully we can settle this right, cause I don't like the way you guys do things here. And anyone with the name 'Anonymous user' needs to be looked into very closely as they have some need for adding ridiculous edits. Zacharyalejandro ( talk) 22:05, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
What's gonna be the stance on this? Should we consider the Wii U the Switch's predecessor? Many news sites are reporting it as a successor and the Wii U Wikipedia page also lists it as such. Since they're both considered home consoles by Nintendo, it would make sense to treat switch as a successor to Wii U (no matter how different it is), similar to the Gamecube to Wii, and Wii to Wii U. Thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Max Lazy 10 ( talk • contribs) 17:52, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
Is this the start of the 9th generation of game consoles, as this is the successor to the Wii U?? TJD2 ( talk) 23:13, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
A couple of reliable sources outside of VG focused RS's have begun using "ninth generation": http://news.abs-cbn.com/life/10/22/16/nintendo-switch-what-you-should-expect http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/5-things-you-need-to-know-about-nintendos-new-switch-console-w445780
For what it's worth (Not much), the Nintendo Wikia has already labelled as 9th. I've seen a lot of "next-generation console" in VG RS's, but that language is iffy. It's clearly the "next" generation of Nintendo hardware, but does not necessarily mean the "next" industry generation, you know? I've also seen language like "last-generation" in referring to Wii U.
What I'm not seeing anywhere so far is sources referring to it as eighth generation or current generation. -- ferret ( talk) 13:01, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Eurogamer's sources say that Wii U will end production this week. Occum's Razor points to this even furthering proof that the Switch is meant as its successor but we do absolutely need sources from Nintendo itself to make the claim. But I would keep our eyes out for any such ones at the end of this week moving forward. -- MASEM ( t) 15:34, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
Eurogamer reports that the Switch is a capacitive multipoint touchscreen based on its sources that had affirmed the Switch details prior to the trailer. Obviously not N's own words, and thus I'm hesitant to include immediately, and looking for opinions before including it. -- MASEM ( t) 16:27, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
Could we request a page protection against numerous times anonymous users have made edits that are unsourced and/or ridiculous/silly information? I don't know why we don't these days to protect the pages who want people to know some true facts, and for people who are not in their right mind or thinking straight. Zacharyalejandro ( talk) 00:22, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
The official name of the console in Japan is just "Nintendo Switch". "Nintendo Switch" is also the name of the article on Japanese Wikipedia, where the majority of sources also refer to it by just the English name. Satellizer el Bridget (Talk) 02:55, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
One company has already started "taking pre-orders" (in a way), though it's taking them in a somewhat unique way. See:
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/11/random_game_opens_nintendo_switch_pre-orders_though_using_paypal_is_a_bad_idea
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What are people's thoughts on maybe doing some light revision here? The section seems a tad negative at the moment. Currently, the paragraph on the response from the financial analyst community is mostly expressing the views of a single NYT editorial and the analyst they quote. Obviously it's important that this reaction is communicated, but the system also received a more positive reception from other industry experts (contrast with here) and from chunks of the industry press. Maybe we can round up some more RSs in order to paint a broader picture? The rest of the section detailing industry response and the extent to which the reveal was popular online could also maybe be expanded. MarioFanNo1 ( talk) 06:05, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
GameXplain, which is unfortunately a YouTube channel, just conducted an interview with one of the actors from the Switch ad. (I'm not gonna say his Twitch username for fear of any profanity filters we have, but it's noted in the video's description.) He is one of the actors in the Splatoon scenes, the one that has a red jacket and a beard. Is this usable in any way in the article? (I realize we have WP:USERG.) — Gestrid ( talk) 02:15, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
Nintendo later stated that the footage on the Switch's screen does not necessarily reflect any confirmed titles for the system, and were only selected to demonstrate the Switch's range of functionality.— zziccardi ( talk) 22:01, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
Regarding the Joy-Con syntax - for consistency, which is proper?:
1) Joy-Con Controller or just Joy-Con (singular). Note: This seems redundant. Is the word "controller" part of the proper noun, or is it an adjective. In the Wii Remote article, for instance, the word "controller" is not part of the proper noun, the device is a "Wii Remote" or "Wiimote" not a "Wii Remote Controller".
2) Joy-Con Controllers or Joy-Cons? Or Is Joy-Con plural (e.g., I have two Joy-Con). - superβεεcat 19:48, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
according to a leak i heard of on youtube. 84.212.111.156 ( talk) 10:52, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
these lines are a proposal for the article:
At some locations it was stated that the SoC is a device called Tegra X2 along with main specs on cores that do quite well resemble what is already known with codename "Parker" or maybe T186 from the automotive "Drive" series. This means two Denver (customized ARM Arch64) cores, four ARM Cortex A57 (ARM Arch64) and a GPU core of the Pascal generation. [1] [2]
At least Nvidia themselves confirms that it "powers" the device and that it will provide a few APIs for it: https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2016/10/20/nintendo-switch/
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[3] (this is just one example). Like the issue of what the touchscreen was, I think this is one of those that we might want to consider putting in (with all necessary wrapper language to explain the origin), but not in the infobox yet. -- MASEM ( t) 23:13, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
Remember when Nintendo stated the DS wasn't a successor to the GBA or to the GameCube? Well, turns out it WAS a successor. Same thing here. 187.79.221.15 ( talk) 15:04, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
It seems like the 'used processor' thread has run out, but I tried to add specs of the Tegra processor as published by Ars Technica and Digital Foundry. These were reverted based on the desire to exclude leaked specs, despite these being reputable sources. While I understand the good faith desire to keep speculation out, I would disagree with this approach for a number of reasons. A similar discussion has occurred in a RfC here and an agreeable compromise was found. I believe this is a worthwhile compromise of phrasing in order to include specs published by reputable sources, but as yet unconfirmed by the manufacturer(s). Dbsseven ( talk) 18:06, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
I'm a little dubious about this particular line "Nintendo does not plan to sell the unit below manufacturing cost, as they had done for both the 3DS and Wii U at their respective launches" as I've always been under the impression that the 3DS was not initially priced below cost, but fell below that with it's massive price cut. Not sure where I could find a source on that though. -- Thunderbird8 ( talk) 03:21, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
"Nintendo just offered a unique entry in the eighth-generation console war versus Microsoft's Xbox One and Sony's PlayStation 4. " https://mic.com/articles/157262/nintendo-switch-features-multiplayer-screen-switching-possible-price-games-and-more#.xrEvYHLed
I noticed that article yesterday while browsing the web but didn't want to edit anything without discussion first. Although this is my first time weighing on the "generations" discussion Nintendo releasing an entirely new console while the "8th Gen" is only three years old and this console being part of the "8th Gen" isn't anything new. Looking back at Atari they had the 2600 and 5200 in the "2nd Gen" and both were different from each other and the 5200 wasn't backwards compatible out of the box with the 2600. Now granted that maybe a bad example but the "3rd Gen" has a closer example of this when Sega released the SG-1000 in 1983 then the Master System in 1985. Both of these consoles are considered part of the third gen and the release dates were about two years apart with the SG-1000 being discontinued shortly after the launch of the Master System. Another point to consider is Nintendo doesn't consider the Switch a successor to the Wii U that doesn't mean they will support both consoles on the market but could mean they consider Switch within the same gen or era as the Wii U in terms of competitors current product offerings. ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 12:16, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
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Users will be able to obtain a smartphone app that they can used to control the Switch.
Users will be able to obtain a smartphone app that they can use to control the Switch. 174.19.246.88 ( talk) 20:50, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
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Miyamoto was not as directly involved however, which allowed him to spend more title on Nintendo's software titles around the time, such as Super Mario Run.
Miyamoto was not as directly involved however, which allowed him to spend more time on Nintendo's software titles around the time, such as Super Mario Run. Rufioh ( talk) 00:43, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
As the price in Australia is considerably higher (AU$469.95) then a direct conversion from YEN, USD or CAD, it should be included.
Source here: http://www.nintendo.com.au/nintendo-switch-launches-on-3rd-march-2017
I've noticed a lot of people incorrectly doing direct conversions from YEN or USD.
Thanks. Richardboegli ( talk) 15:05, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
Now that we have public events featuring the Switch, the current picture at the top is now technically in violation of NFCC. I know that once the console is actually out and easily workable in the hands of consumers (rather than at display floors), that we'll likely get a good image from Evan-Amos ( talk · contribs) as they have done for nearly all of our game hardware, but until then, please look for any free images that you might be able to find or convince an image copyright taker to license freely. -- MASEM ( t) 15:13, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi, i made some pictures on a press event in Munich today. You can find them here: [4] Elvis untot ( talk) 21:26, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
For most Nintendo-related pages, the date format is MDY. However, in this particular article, the dates are in DMY. Yoshiman6464 ♫🥚 18:33, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
I've boldly changed to MDY, as no real opposition was voiced here. Note that List of Nintendo Switch games was already unified on MDY separately. -- ferret ( talk) 15:06, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
There's been a lot of shenanigans with the logo on top of the infobox. @ Pincerr wanted the red opaque background version of the logo to serve as the lead. His reasoning was as follows - " Seems the red logo is the actual one, judging from both media and the official website." This doesn't really make sense, because there are many variations of the logo that can be found all across Nintendo's website. Generally, opaque backgrounds, especially coloured ones, have been avoided simply because it intrudes on the clean design of the infobox. Having a small, red square on top of a larger rectangular image, which are all encased in a larger rectangle (the infobox itself) makes for a rather unprofessional look. So, I've made a compromise. I've installed a version of the logo that is transparent, which is what I want, but keeps the red color that I'm assuming Pincerr likes and wants to keep. However, I'm not too fond of this red logo, because it is quite the eyesore, similar to one of those blue LED checkout signs that some supermarkets have. I'd argue it's possibly an accessibility issue, though admittedly when I skimmed MOS:ACCESS, I couldn't find anything about poorly colored imagery. So, what do you guys think? Should we revert back to the neutral version of the logo, or keep the red version? Philip Terry Graham 08:33, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
While commenting on the infobox logo discussion above, I came across another interesting thing in the red logo. The two logos shown here above have a slight different tone of red in them (the second is darker). The first logo's description claims it is from a promotional image on Nintendo's official website ( http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/cocoon/noa3/images/page/switch/gallery/gallery01.jpg). I checked it and yes it's correct, so I assumed the first logo is the correct red color, - but after looking at the official Switch website ( http://www.nintendo.com/switch/) the red color actually matches the second logo, not the first. The thing here is, both of them are official from Nintendo's sites, so it's weird. What are your thoughts? -- Pincerr ( talk) 19:44, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
We have our first source that clearly called Nintendo Switch a ninth generation console: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAHqz7bdFwI Are YouTube videos appropriate as a source? Max Lazy 10 ( talk) 15:47, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
Okay how's this for a new source? Rolling Stone called it ninth gen in the following article: http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/5-things-you-need-to-know-about-nintendos-new-switch-console-w445780 Max Lazy 10 ( talk) 20:07, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
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I'm sorry if I'm not very good at formatting but, frankly, Rolling Stone Magazine, nor online edition, should not ever be considered a reputable source for video games, the video game industry, nor for critical analysis of the artistic elements, nor business practices, within this field. Not only is the number of errors, bad calls, and unethical review policies too numerous to even bother citing a source, but no industry-vetted journalist has Ever cited the magazine as an expert source, or opinion, that I've ever heard of, and, unless things have changed very very recently, I don't even think they have anyone on staff who is an industry-vetted journalist to even bother citing. I'm sorry, but I can't let that pass without a bit of my scorn. Sam ( talk) 01:07, 18 January 2017 (UTC) Checkmate824 17th January, 2017 ed: WOOT SWITCH HYPE WOOT and I don't think "9th" generation should be defined so quickly, especially considering the wierd environment in the industry at this time, with all the PS4.5s going around. Having said that, there are many examples of multiple consoles being released, by the same company, within what is considered a generation within the industry as a whole; Nintendo being a prominent example. But, as I said, it's too early to tell, if these companies supporting the PS4 and Xb1, their Wii Us, their 3DSs and their Switches, within 10 years, then I think they'd all fit in nicely as the 8th Generation, but maybe a new competitor, or new system could change that. My main worry is that this debate has less to do with history and more to do with fandom insecurities.... just saying. WOOT SWITCH HYPE! WOOT Sam ( talk) 01:14, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
For one, half of it is outdated, due to ongoing events, but another thing I noticed is the system hasn't been released yet, and most of the reception cited, comes with that caveat, so.... is this really a "Reception" section, or a "News" section? It just felt odd to me, but I suppose the word "Reception" technically applies, just to the promotional material and not the system itself, which is the purview of the article. Altho! I feel much of this Would fit nicely, with a little reworking, into the "Switch" section of the main "Nintendo" article. Not sure if I'm off-base on this, or not.... Sam ( talk) 01:37, 19 January 2017 (UTC) or maybe it could be moved into a deeper section called "Announcement" or something, cuz a lot of this would be noteworthy, even after the release of the system. Sam ( talk) 01:38, 19 January 2017 (UTC) @ Ferret: I can't stand waiting around, what do You think? (i saw you've worked on this article) Sam ( talk) 01:41, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
And in the "joy-con" section, can someone change "ABXY buttons" to "A, B, X, and Y buttons." Thank-you. 2602:306:374A:8F70:C1E6:6A5E:913D:B1D2 ( talk) 19:17, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
What's your problem? I just wanted to know if anybody knew the price. 2602:306:374A:8F70:C1E6:6A5E:913D:B1D2 ( talk) 20:16, 25 January 2017 (UTC) Oh, I see what you meant by "last time." The only reason I asked again is because the first time I asked it disappeared. 2602:306:374A:8F70:C1E6:6A5E:913D:B1D2 ( talk) 20:18, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
Got it! and sorry. 2602:306:374A:8F70:C1E6:6A5E:913D:B1D2 ( talk) 20:42, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
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In the second paragraph, the quote "The Joy-Con are motion-sensitive, and include high-definition tactical feedback to the user." should use the word tactile instead of tactical. BobLincolnExtraordinaire ( talk) 15:32, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
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please change ((Bloomberg)) to ((Bloomberg News|Bloomberg)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:541:4305:C70:78DE:A5C5:CB8B:D516 ( talk • contribs)
However, this one may possibly maybe work. Please see and comment on Talk:Wii U#I found a source that says that the Wii U succeeded by the Nintendo Switch console, which was just posted by EquestriaGirlsFan2003. — Gestrid ( talk) 05:04, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
According to a interview that Tatsumi Kimishima had with Nikkei earlier this week, Nintendo is currently "studying" VR and can possibly add it to the Switch once they figure out how users can play for hours without any issues. Here is the link. Could be good as a future reference point. 195.67.78.50 ( talk) 10:16, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
As Nintendo plans to release its new console this coming March, will that mark the beginning of the ninth generation of video games? 47.152.93.124 ( talk) 14:36, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Why are some users keep making such edits that are vandalism and good faith and keep doing them, no matter how they are reverted back? This is getting way out of hand and kinda need a page protection against vandalism and good faith edits. Can we request a semi-page protection? Zacharyalejandro ( talk) 15:50, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
Not being a gamer, I am alien to the culture, but by the sound of it the concept of generations strongly recalls the early 1970s in the computer field. Up to then we had had the first, second, and third generations, and it had worked because one could look at a machine and fairly confidently assign a generation, which basically was defined by whether, or to what extent, the machine was based on valves, transistors, or the degree of integration of the circuits. (There was an occasional mutter about "Zeroth gen electro-mechanical machines, and I cannot remember anyone assigning Babbage a generation, but that was mainly a bit of argy-bargy among academics, not an industry problem.)
About then however companies began to produce fourth generation machines, which was fair enough, except that no one could agree on what made a machine post-3rd generation. It had become a matter of advertising, rather than industry realities. (Sounds familiar?)
The essence of the problem, though it was not very soon recognised, was that the range of directions of technological development and their adoption was starting to explode, and the cross-fertilisation and extinction were non-generational, too confused and overlapping to classify usefully and too rapid to call. Everything entered into the shouting matches; hardware, software, firmware, central memory, mass data storage devices, you name it. I seem to remember a few 5th-gen calls, but about then it became too nonsensical to be taken seriously, and the classification battlefield focus shifted to the mainframe/minicomputer/microcomputer distinctions, which have since blurred in their turn; in the mid-seventies I was the first to my knowledge to point out that that distinction had evolved into a question of how the system was used, rather than its techology.
Meanwhile the g-word has practically disappeared in the computer field; not because it was good or bad, or right or wrong, but because generation was rarely relevant any more. Not that technology had stood still; but because advances had stampeded in so many dimensions that classifications were rarely meaningful enough to be relevant outside the academic fields any more and the advertising industry largely abandoned them as having lost their sell.
So in gaming, I leave it to you people. If the concept is meaningless or too volatile to remain useful, it cannot be of fundamental interest to an encyclopaedia and its relevance is no more than the relevance of any other advertising cliches -- OK if advertising and buzzwords are the topics, but not to be permitted in an article in the sense of technical description. And even in advertising there is a lot of overlap (annual cycle? 3-year cycle? 5-year? Moore's law cycle?) I do not say that the word must be banned, but urge that we avoid it till except where avoiding it would take an effort. Shouldn't even be worth wasting talk page space on. It is like describing clothing fashions or tennis stars; they come and go and return and vanish. Whether so much as to mention them, let alone take them seriously, is a sensitive point, and rarely important or stable enough to be worth it. By way of comparison, have a read of some tennis star articles, as compared to chemistry or maths. JonRichfield ( talk) 07:08, 9 February 2017 (UTC)