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Requested move: Nicholas Romanov → Nicholas Romanov (disambiguation)
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Oppose If the health guru is the top referent we should seriously consider giving him his own article. Royals are not often referred to by their surnames. Also, is Tsar
Nicholas I really much less important than Nicholas II?
PatGallacher (
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01:47, 23 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Nicholas II became "Nicholas Romanov" when he lost his position as tsar. The term is not commonly used to refer to Nicholas I.
Nicholas Romanov, Prince of Russia got over
63,000 page views last year. Off Wiki, this Nicholas is a rather obscure claimant to the Russian throne, even compared to
Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna, Russia's more or less official pretender. So that number is way out of whack. The article on the pretender is one of the top results for "Nicholas Romanov," so many readers may be clicking on it expecting an article on Nicholas II. I am hoping that this move will expedite some of those readers to where they want to go.
Kauffner (
talk)
09:30, 23 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Support placing a redirect hatnote on the Nicholas II article. If Dr Nicholas Romanov needs an article, it can be added to the dab page. I have never heard of him.
Peterkingiron (
talk)
17:37, 25 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Oppose mainly per the Google evidence the nominator brought up and that it is clear to me that if there is argument over who is the primary topic, there isn’t one (especially if there are at least 3 possibilities…). For now I’ll forgo my other argument, that all the Russians linked here are actually called Николай, which should be transliterated to Nikolaj or Nikolay, not “translated” to “Nicholas”.
MTC (
talk)
14:00, 1 December 2011 (UTC)reply
We don't have any page view numbers for the running coach. But as he is currently below
Nicholas Romanov, Prince of Russia in the Google rankings, I don't think he should be considered a potential primary topic. I am not sure who the third person you are referring to might be.
Kauffner (
talk)
18:15, 1 December 2011 (UTC)reply
Oppose Anyone actually using "nicholas romanov" in a search is probably unlikely to be looking for Nicholas II, or just as likely to be looking for Nicholas I or one of the other uses on the dab page, so, despite the google results, I don't think it's clear we have a primary topic here. --
Born2cycle (
talk) 22:05, 9 December 2011 (UTC)Changed mind; see below --
Born2cycle (
talk)
02:11, 10 December 2011 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
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Requested move: Nicholas Romanov → Nicholas Romanov (disambiguation)
The following discussion is an archived discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
Oppose If the health guru is the top referent we should seriously consider giving him his own article. Royals are not often referred to by their surnames. Also, is Tsar
Nicholas I really much less important than Nicholas II?
PatGallacher (
talk)
01:47, 23 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Nicholas II became "Nicholas Romanov" when he lost his position as tsar. The term is not commonly used to refer to Nicholas I.
Nicholas Romanov, Prince of Russia got over
63,000 page views last year. Off Wiki, this Nicholas is a rather obscure claimant to the Russian throne, even compared to
Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna, Russia's more or less official pretender. So that number is way out of whack. The article on the pretender is one of the top results for "Nicholas Romanov," so many readers may be clicking on it expecting an article on Nicholas II. I am hoping that this move will expedite some of those readers to where they want to go.
Kauffner (
talk)
09:30, 23 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Support placing a redirect hatnote on the Nicholas II article. If Dr Nicholas Romanov needs an article, it can be added to the dab page. I have never heard of him.
Peterkingiron (
talk)
17:37, 25 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Oppose mainly per the Google evidence the nominator brought up and that it is clear to me that if there is argument over who is the primary topic, there isn’t one (especially if there are at least 3 possibilities…). For now I’ll forgo my other argument, that all the Russians linked here are actually called Николай, which should be transliterated to Nikolaj or Nikolay, not “translated” to “Nicholas”.
MTC (
talk)
14:00, 1 December 2011 (UTC)reply
We don't have any page view numbers for the running coach. But as he is currently below
Nicholas Romanov, Prince of Russia in the Google rankings, I don't think he should be considered a potential primary topic. I am not sure who the third person you are referring to might be.
Kauffner (
talk)
18:15, 1 December 2011 (UTC)reply
Oppose Anyone actually using "nicholas romanov" in a search is probably unlikely to be looking for Nicholas II, or just as likely to be looking for Nicholas I or one of the other uses on the dab page, so, despite the google results, I don't think it's clear we have a primary topic here. --
Born2cycle (
talk) 22:05, 9 December 2011 (UTC)Changed mind; see below --
Born2cycle (
talk)
02:11, 10 December 2011 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.