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The voice actor for Nightmare in Soul Caliber III is Patrick Ryan
How come the category alignment in the info box disappeared from all SC related characters? Nothing can be done to bring it back either!?
Can somone clarify me from where this fragment from Nightmare's biography comes from?:
Taken from Wikipedia's Nightmare Profile:
"As Siegfried Schtauffen lay wounded on the ground, having been defeated by Kilik's holy bo staff Kali-Yuga, he gradually began to become a prominent force in Nightmare's mind once again. During this time, he witnessed the banishment of the blazing Inferno of Soul Edge into the void by the holy sword Soul Calibur, and the Soul Calibur's fall into the void along with its counterpart. And he watched as its former wielder, Chai Xianghua, quietly left the castle, aiding her wounded companion along the way."
As of my knowledge, neither Siegfried SC profile, Nightmare SC2 Profile or either of both's SC3 Profiles (both from Soularchive.jp and in-game) gives reference to this happening. Even more, Nightmare's SC2 website profile, longer and more detailed, gives the impresion that Nightmare/Siegfried got sucked into the void alongside Inferno and Soul Calibur:
Fragment taken from Nightmare's Soul Calibur II Profile from Soularchive.jp:
"...The battle between the swordsmen took place in a vortex of hellfire and evil energy summoned by Soul Edge. After a raging battle, the evil sword shattered, and both Nightmare and Soul Edge fell into the collapsing void.
With Soul Edge severely weakened, Nightmare regained some of his humanity. Along with lucidity came the horrifying memories of the sins he committed, as well as the fear and anger of those who were slaughtered by him. Moreover, he realized that he had been the one who murdered his father.
Expelled from the void into an unfamiliar place, Nightmare disappeared into the night-the evil sword still in his grip. But Soul Edge was weaker now, and splinters of itself were left in Nightmare's footsteps."
So if anyone can clear this to me, I'll greatly apreciate it. Thanks ( Johnny Master 07:59, 24 February 2006 (UTC)).
Nobody answer?...I'll wait 3 days more. If I don't receive a source that says that Siegfried was there when Kilik/Xianghua left, I'm going to re-write that part telling that he got sucked into the void, like his SC2 bio strongly imply. ( Johnny Master 05:48, 28 February 2006 (UTC)).
Are implications enough? I strongly disagree
Please do not modify the contents of this article, or any article for that matter, if you do not plan on measuring up to Wikipedia's grammar standards. Make it English.
Thanks.
But Is it really a standard? I mean some things have foreign names. It is not like we can for example call the weapon katana for japanese sword just to keep the standards, or re-name the sword zweihander to two-handed german sword... The standard would be kept, but the fact and informative value would be lost. Re-naming things to make them measure up to wikipedia`s standards would be Foolish. I believe This inaccuracy should be clarified.
How come there's no main picture? Every character used to have one? Silver Fang 07:44, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
There should be a picture, although pictures on Nightmare's page seem to get deleted for some reason, something regarding copyright I think. BassxForte 19:04, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
well someone needs to put on up already Dark reaper6789 18:14, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Meh. I'll do it myself when I get home. I'll use an image of Nightmare that I use as my sig in Internet forums. Don't know how long it'll last around here though *sigh*
Silver Fang 07:32, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Is Nightmare really a breakout character? I know that due to his apperance he tends to catch people's eye a lot easier then other characters, but according to wikipedia's "breakout character" page the breakout chracter also tends to be the most popular character, and i'll need a source before I can let that breakout character exist on the page with peace of mind. BassxForte 19:35, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
I don't know about breakout, but he has become the symbol for Project Soul, as they are now using him as their personal icon. Silver Fang 08:30, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Point by point, my reasons for every edit I did:
1) "Nightmare made his first appearance in Soul Calibur and has returned for both Soul Calibur II and Soul Calibur III. This character originally appeared in as "Siegfried!", an extra costume for Siegfried that was actually used to represent Siegfried's possession (by Soul Edge) in Siegfried's ending. He is Soul Calibur's Breakout character."
2)"Some call it the "Sword of Heroes", others the "Sword of Immortality". Although the details of this legendary sword changed while the rumors spread around the world, its nature is unmistakably evil. The evil sword is said to change forms to accommodate its wielder's fighting style and experience. Whenever the sword is bathed in blood, its single eye appears enraptured. It can control its wielder to commit grotesque crimes in order to consume souls, but its true purpose and intents remain unknown. After the events surrounding its defeat at the hands of two young warriors, the sword has been severely weakened. But still its power remains as a great force. In the present Soul Edge is now in a dormant state, sealed alongside its polar opposite, Soul Calibur, in what is known as the "Soul Embrace".
3) After Nightmare was granted a new body, he used his memories of the sword alongside his great strength and will, and materialized this weapon from his body. It seems like a phantom memento of his origin. Nothing is really known about this sword. It is still capable of absorbing souls in order to maintain Nightmare's new shell, but it is dwarfed in comparison to the genuine Soul Edge in terms of power, meaning it has no other special effects.
This sword is created in a way similar to how Charade and Inferno create their own weapons (from their bodies), further hinting at Nightmare's relation with Inferno.
4) Trivia (personal favourite):
In Tales of Souls, near the end of any character's path, with the obvious exception of Nightmare's and Siegfried's, Nightmare will face off against Siegfried, and the winner will face the player's character next.
In Soul Calibur III, Nightmare's weapons and fighting style are available under the discipline Soul of Nightmare to characters created under the Barbarian class.
Nightmare's nickname in Soul Calibur is "Azure Nightmare". He's also known in the story as the "Azure Knight". Nightmare's Destined Battle in Soul Calibur is Sophitia and in Soul Calibur II and Soul Calibur III his Destined Battle is Raphael.
In Soul Calibur III, the helmet of Nightmare's second costume looks very much like the helmet of Sauron from the Lord of the Rings series.
According to the line "Hehe...Ha Ha Ha Ha-Power flows through me!",it is possible that Nightmare is in fact Night Terror.(Which it appears in Nightmare's input ending in Soulcalibur III)
Nightmare is technically Soul edge so this makes Nightmare the main antagonist of the game series.
I hope this clears up my intention. 201.255.10.227 01:55, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
I am aware that most of that does improve the article, however I believe that taking out certain things detract from the article and in the long run hurt it. BassxForte 03:30, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
I shall revert his edit then take what what is not needed, thus the things he took out that deserved to be taken out shall stay out. BassxForte 01:51, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
No, nvm, I can't stand to look at the mutilation of the page for one of my favoirte characters long enough to fix the damage that has been done. BassxForte 01:52, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Why was the section about Night Terror merged into this page? BassxForte 21:10, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
The game does not out-right state that Nightmare is Night Terror, it's implied by Nightmare's good (input) ending, but if you play through Nightmare's Tales of Souls and get the Night Terror fight it is Zasalamel who transforms into him, the same thing happens if your playing as Seigreid, thus, we can't be sure Nightmare and Night Terror are one and the same. Vilerocks 20:38, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Not only Nightmare's ending states that, but Night Terror's profile as well.
Besides the obvious name upgrade (A Nightmare into a Night Terror), it's pretty much obvious Night Terror is Soul Edge/Nightmare in its purest form. About the merge, I think it was discussed in the discussion page for the WikiProject, since they are not only one-time chars, but quite minor ones (basically just bosses with almost no background). 201.255.11.162 01:32, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
We still don't know if it's Nightmare. Vilerocks 02:15, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia follows "verifiability, not truth". Vilerocks 17:01, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
It would be foolish not to keep it... come on there has to be some source material stating this.
Beyond one line in Night Terror's profile, their two diffrent people as far as wikipedia's concerned. BassxForte 05:19, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm a little confused by this. I can accept that due to Wikipedia's standards Night Terror must have a separate entry because he is considered a separate entity. But strictly by those rules we should remove Nightmare's article as well. After all, he is merely a persona adopted by Siegfreid under the control of Soul Edge, a persona later perpetuated by Soul Edge when it served as a shell for the will of the sword. So does that mean Nightmare's page should be split and merged with Siegfried and Inferno? Lord Knightcon ( talk) 18:05, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Okay, this is pretty much just like the old character analysis section from before. I'm removing these for the same reason people from before deleted the character analysis section. If you want to find out why, check out Taki's and Kilik's talk pages. If people want a strategy guide, they should go to fansites. Mythmonster2 ( talk) 06:27, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Who deleted the Siegfried article?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.76.121.136 ( talk) 21:21, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
It wasn't deleted. Someone changed the link to Siegfried Schtauffen so that it links to Nightmare's page instead of Siegfried (Soulcalibur). Just in case someone wants to point fingers, I changed it back. The discussion link on that page in regards to MERGING the two articles also links to the talk area on THIS page instead of that one, but I saw no mention of it on this page prior to this section. Further discussion on these characters seriously needs to be considered before merging them. Please reference my entry on Siegfried's page dated for today. Thank you. Tidus the BlitzStar ( talk) 20:21, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
OK, NOW it's been deleted...how nice. No discussion, either. Tidus the BlitzStar ( talk) 20:57, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Someone totally removed the Siegfried article! 67.38.241.19 ( talk) 23:41, 19 September 2008 (UTC)Kinz
I came here looking for information about Siegfried, yet every link takes me here and all the article talks about is Nightmare. I know there was only Siegfried in the first game and that they split into two different entities at the end of SCII, but there's only info about Nightmare in the whole of Wikipedia?
I don't care who has the most promo work for the series. I don't care if there's no seperate page for Siegfried. I don't care if someone considers them one and the same. Could someone PLEASE put some actual information about Siegfried somewhere!?! Durmgrid ( talk) 07:37, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
In a possibly vain attempt to improve the quality of this article by addressing the in-universe representation of Nightmare, I'd like to clarify his personality traits in the article. So here are the facts:
-In Soulcalibur I and II, Nightmare is the alter-ego of Siegfried. In other words Siegfried is the one wearing the armor.
-In Soulcalibur III and IV, Nightmare is a shell inhabited by the will of Soul Edge, in other words he is Inferno, in a suit of otherwise empty armor. This is made quite clear in the character profiles in both games.
-Nightmare uses the same personality and mannerisms in all his appearances; victory animations, key phrases ("Blood...darkness...Come unto me!"), etc.
Near as I can reckon, this means one of two things:
-The will of Soul Edge permanently adopted this portion of Siegfried's personality.
-It was really Soul Edge(Inferno) speaking all along while using Siegfried as a host.
Which stance do we want the article to take? Or instead just present all of this and let the reader make up his own mind? (or maybe none of this...who knows)-- 199.79.10.117 ( talk) 19:02, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
I edited the article so that it refers to only the character named "Nightmare" (be it Siegfried or otherwise), so that the article, following its name, would only be about Nightmare and not both Nightmare and "hero" Siegfried (especially considering he has his own mini-article while the other Soulcalibur characters with their own full-size articles don't). My idea, if anyone wants to restore the information, is that the article is renamed "Siegfried and Nightmare" or something like that and information for both characters is included.-- 172.132.65.31 ( talk) 19:57, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
-- Niemti ( talk) 07:50, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
Nightmare is just an alter ego form of Siegfried, which only later separated itself. -- Niemti ( talk) 11:24, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
So, typing in: "Siegfried Schtauffen" redirects to Nightmare (Soulcalibur)?? I'm first off not going to even comment about how Nightmare has a main article and not Siegfried, more than enough information exists for him already, so there is no excuse. The only info of Sieg that should exist on the Nightmare page should be information of Soulcalibur I and II Nightmare/Sieg, as Nightmare became a seperate character fully on after SCII.
Also, pretty sure searching "Siegfried Schtauffen" should redirect to List of Soul characters if Sieg has no main article at the time. Aelvir Valfort Lugn ( talk) 18:43, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
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Siegfried material being at User:SNAAAAKE!!/sandbox and it's essentially a single character anyway. SNAAAAKE!! ( talk) 17:31, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#Siegfried and Nightmare. QuicoleJR ( talk) 19:56, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) – Material Works ping me! 10:28, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
Siegfried and Nightmare → Nightmare (Soulcalibur) – As discussed in the above discussion, Nightmare is the only arguably notable character here. The scope should be changed back, and Siegfried content merged away. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 07:07, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
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The voice actor for Nightmare in Soul Caliber III is Patrick Ryan
How come the category alignment in the info box disappeared from all SC related characters? Nothing can be done to bring it back either!?
Can somone clarify me from where this fragment from Nightmare's biography comes from?:
Taken from Wikipedia's Nightmare Profile:
"As Siegfried Schtauffen lay wounded on the ground, having been defeated by Kilik's holy bo staff Kali-Yuga, he gradually began to become a prominent force in Nightmare's mind once again. During this time, he witnessed the banishment of the blazing Inferno of Soul Edge into the void by the holy sword Soul Calibur, and the Soul Calibur's fall into the void along with its counterpart. And he watched as its former wielder, Chai Xianghua, quietly left the castle, aiding her wounded companion along the way."
As of my knowledge, neither Siegfried SC profile, Nightmare SC2 Profile or either of both's SC3 Profiles (both from Soularchive.jp and in-game) gives reference to this happening. Even more, Nightmare's SC2 website profile, longer and more detailed, gives the impresion that Nightmare/Siegfried got sucked into the void alongside Inferno and Soul Calibur:
Fragment taken from Nightmare's Soul Calibur II Profile from Soularchive.jp:
"...The battle between the swordsmen took place in a vortex of hellfire and evil energy summoned by Soul Edge. After a raging battle, the evil sword shattered, and both Nightmare and Soul Edge fell into the collapsing void.
With Soul Edge severely weakened, Nightmare regained some of his humanity. Along with lucidity came the horrifying memories of the sins he committed, as well as the fear and anger of those who were slaughtered by him. Moreover, he realized that he had been the one who murdered his father.
Expelled from the void into an unfamiliar place, Nightmare disappeared into the night-the evil sword still in his grip. But Soul Edge was weaker now, and splinters of itself were left in Nightmare's footsteps."
So if anyone can clear this to me, I'll greatly apreciate it. Thanks ( Johnny Master 07:59, 24 February 2006 (UTC)).
Nobody answer?...I'll wait 3 days more. If I don't receive a source that says that Siegfried was there when Kilik/Xianghua left, I'm going to re-write that part telling that he got sucked into the void, like his SC2 bio strongly imply. ( Johnny Master 05:48, 28 February 2006 (UTC)).
Are implications enough? I strongly disagree
Please do not modify the contents of this article, or any article for that matter, if you do not plan on measuring up to Wikipedia's grammar standards. Make it English.
Thanks.
But Is it really a standard? I mean some things have foreign names. It is not like we can for example call the weapon katana for japanese sword just to keep the standards, or re-name the sword zweihander to two-handed german sword... The standard would be kept, but the fact and informative value would be lost. Re-naming things to make them measure up to wikipedia`s standards would be Foolish. I believe This inaccuracy should be clarified.
How come there's no main picture? Every character used to have one? Silver Fang 07:44, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
There should be a picture, although pictures on Nightmare's page seem to get deleted for some reason, something regarding copyright I think. BassxForte 19:04, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
well someone needs to put on up already Dark reaper6789 18:14, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Meh. I'll do it myself when I get home. I'll use an image of Nightmare that I use as my sig in Internet forums. Don't know how long it'll last around here though *sigh*
Silver Fang 07:32, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Is Nightmare really a breakout character? I know that due to his apperance he tends to catch people's eye a lot easier then other characters, but according to wikipedia's "breakout character" page the breakout chracter also tends to be the most popular character, and i'll need a source before I can let that breakout character exist on the page with peace of mind. BassxForte 19:35, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
I don't know about breakout, but he has become the symbol for Project Soul, as they are now using him as their personal icon. Silver Fang 08:30, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Point by point, my reasons for every edit I did:
1) "Nightmare made his first appearance in Soul Calibur and has returned for both Soul Calibur II and Soul Calibur III. This character originally appeared in as "Siegfried!", an extra costume for Siegfried that was actually used to represent Siegfried's possession (by Soul Edge) in Siegfried's ending. He is Soul Calibur's Breakout character."
2)"Some call it the "Sword of Heroes", others the "Sword of Immortality". Although the details of this legendary sword changed while the rumors spread around the world, its nature is unmistakably evil. The evil sword is said to change forms to accommodate its wielder's fighting style and experience. Whenever the sword is bathed in blood, its single eye appears enraptured. It can control its wielder to commit grotesque crimes in order to consume souls, but its true purpose and intents remain unknown. After the events surrounding its defeat at the hands of two young warriors, the sword has been severely weakened. But still its power remains as a great force. In the present Soul Edge is now in a dormant state, sealed alongside its polar opposite, Soul Calibur, in what is known as the "Soul Embrace".
3) After Nightmare was granted a new body, he used his memories of the sword alongside his great strength and will, and materialized this weapon from his body. It seems like a phantom memento of his origin. Nothing is really known about this sword. It is still capable of absorbing souls in order to maintain Nightmare's new shell, but it is dwarfed in comparison to the genuine Soul Edge in terms of power, meaning it has no other special effects.
This sword is created in a way similar to how Charade and Inferno create their own weapons (from their bodies), further hinting at Nightmare's relation with Inferno.
4) Trivia (personal favourite):
In Tales of Souls, near the end of any character's path, with the obvious exception of Nightmare's and Siegfried's, Nightmare will face off against Siegfried, and the winner will face the player's character next.
In Soul Calibur III, Nightmare's weapons and fighting style are available under the discipline Soul of Nightmare to characters created under the Barbarian class.
Nightmare's nickname in Soul Calibur is "Azure Nightmare". He's also known in the story as the "Azure Knight". Nightmare's Destined Battle in Soul Calibur is Sophitia and in Soul Calibur II and Soul Calibur III his Destined Battle is Raphael.
In Soul Calibur III, the helmet of Nightmare's second costume looks very much like the helmet of Sauron from the Lord of the Rings series.
According to the line "Hehe...Ha Ha Ha Ha-Power flows through me!",it is possible that Nightmare is in fact Night Terror.(Which it appears in Nightmare's input ending in Soulcalibur III)
Nightmare is technically Soul edge so this makes Nightmare the main antagonist of the game series.
I hope this clears up my intention. 201.255.10.227 01:55, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
I am aware that most of that does improve the article, however I believe that taking out certain things detract from the article and in the long run hurt it. BassxForte 03:30, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
I shall revert his edit then take what what is not needed, thus the things he took out that deserved to be taken out shall stay out. BassxForte 01:51, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
No, nvm, I can't stand to look at the mutilation of the page for one of my favoirte characters long enough to fix the damage that has been done. BassxForte 01:52, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Why was the section about Night Terror merged into this page? BassxForte 21:10, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
The game does not out-right state that Nightmare is Night Terror, it's implied by Nightmare's good (input) ending, but if you play through Nightmare's Tales of Souls and get the Night Terror fight it is Zasalamel who transforms into him, the same thing happens if your playing as Seigreid, thus, we can't be sure Nightmare and Night Terror are one and the same. Vilerocks 20:38, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Not only Nightmare's ending states that, but Night Terror's profile as well.
Besides the obvious name upgrade (A Nightmare into a Night Terror), it's pretty much obvious Night Terror is Soul Edge/Nightmare in its purest form. About the merge, I think it was discussed in the discussion page for the WikiProject, since they are not only one-time chars, but quite minor ones (basically just bosses with almost no background). 201.255.11.162 01:32, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
We still don't know if it's Nightmare. Vilerocks 02:15, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia follows "verifiability, not truth". Vilerocks 17:01, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
It would be foolish not to keep it... come on there has to be some source material stating this.
Beyond one line in Night Terror's profile, their two diffrent people as far as wikipedia's concerned. BassxForte 05:19, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm a little confused by this. I can accept that due to Wikipedia's standards Night Terror must have a separate entry because he is considered a separate entity. But strictly by those rules we should remove Nightmare's article as well. After all, he is merely a persona adopted by Siegfreid under the control of Soul Edge, a persona later perpetuated by Soul Edge when it served as a shell for the will of the sword. So does that mean Nightmare's page should be split and merged with Siegfried and Inferno? Lord Knightcon ( talk) 18:05, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Okay, this is pretty much just like the old character analysis section from before. I'm removing these for the same reason people from before deleted the character analysis section. If you want to find out why, check out Taki's and Kilik's talk pages. If people want a strategy guide, they should go to fansites. Mythmonster2 ( talk) 06:27, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Who deleted the Siegfried article?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.76.121.136 ( talk) 21:21, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
It wasn't deleted. Someone changed the link to Siegfried Schtauffen so that it links to Nightmare's page instead of Siegfried (Soulcalibur). Just in case someone wants to point fingers, I changed it back. The discussion link on that page in regards to MERGING the two articles also links to the talk area on THIS page instead of that one, but I saw no mention of it on this page prior to this section. Further discussion on these characters seriously needs to be considered before merging them. Please reference my entry on Siegfried's page dated for today. Thank you. Tidus the BlitzStar ( talk) 20:21, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
OK, NOW it's been deleted...how nice. No discussion, either. Tidus the BlitzStar ( talk) 20:57, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Someone totally removed the Siegfried article! 67.38.241.19 ( talk) 23:41, 19 September 2008 (UTC)Kinz
I came here looking for information about Siegfried, yet every link takes me here and all the article talks about is Nightmare. I know there was only Siegfried in the first game and that they split into two different entities at the end of SCII, but there's only info about Nightmare in the whole of Wikipedia?
I don't care who has the most promo work for the series. I don't care if there's no seperate page for Siegfried. I don't care if someone considers them one and the same. Could someone PLEASE put some actual information about Siegfried somewhere!?! Durmgrid ( talk) 07:37, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
In a possibly vain attempt to improve the quality of this article by addressing the in-universe representation of Nightmare, I'd like to clarify his personality traits in the article. So here are the facts:
-In Soulcalibur I and II, Nightmare is the alter-ego of Siegfried. In other words Siegfried is the one wearing the armor.
-In Soulcalibur III and IV, Nightmare is a shell inhabited by the will of Soul Edge, in other words he is Inferno, in a suit of otherwise empty armor. This is made quite clear in the character profiles in both games.
-Nightmare uses the same personality and mannerisms in all his appearances; victory animations, key phrases ("Blood...darkness...Come unto me!"), etc.
Near as I can reckon, this means one of two things:
-The will of Soul Edge permanently adopted this portion of Siegfried's personality.
-It was really Soul Edge(Inferno) speaking all along while using Siegfried as a host.
Which stance do we want the article to take? Or instead just present all of this and let the reader make up his own mind? (or maybe none of this...who knows)-- 199.79.10.117 ( talk) 19:02, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
I edited the article so that it refers to only the character named "Nightmare" (be it Siegfried or otherwise), so that the article, following its name, would only be about Nightmare and not both Nightmare and "hero" Siegfried (especially considering he has his own mini-article while the other Soulcalibur characters with their own full-size articles don't). My idea, if anyone wants to restore the information, is that the article is renamed "Siegfried and Nightmare" or something like that and information for both characters is included.-- 172.132.65.31 ( talk) 19:57, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
-- Niemti ( talk) 07:50, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
Nightmare is just an alter ego form of Siegfried, which only later separated itself. -- Niemti ( talk) 11:24, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
So, typing in: "Siegfried Schtauffen" redirects to Nightmare (Soulcalibur)?? I'm first off not going to even comment about how Nightmare has a main article and not Siegfried, more than enough information exists for him already, so there is no excuse. The only info of Sieg that should exist on the Nightmare page should be information of Soulcalibur I and II Nightmare/Sieg, as Nightmare became a seperate character fully on after SCII.
Also, pretty sure searching "Siegfried Schtauffen" should redirect to List of Soul characters if Sieg has no main article at the time. Aelvir Valfort Lugn ( talk) 18:43, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
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Siegfried material being at User:SNAAAAKE!!/sandbox and it's essentially a single character anyway. SNAAAAKE!! ( talk) 17:31, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#Siegfried and Nightmare. QuicoleJR ( talk) 19:56, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) – Material Works ping me! 10:28, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
Siegfried and Nightmare → Nightmare (Soulcalibur) – As discussed in the above discussion, Nightmare is the only arguably notable character here. The scope should be changed back, and Siegfried content merged away. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 07:07, 9 June 2023 (UTC)