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Added an audio recording for the article, although honestly I probably mispronounced many things. If anyone wants to record a better version to replace mine, please do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ailes Grises ( talk • contribs) 06:06, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
I'm puzzled by this reference to Pye Records. They specialised in this label for their cover versions? Perhaps it means Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley, Howlin' Wolf etc. on Pye International Records? Then it should say so. Rothorpe ( talk) 02:25, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
It needs to be made clear if this means Cambridge university. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.189.103.145 ( talk) 09:45, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
Seems clear to me. 188.116.36.6 ( talk) 06:20, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
I find that there is a lot of blues in some of Nick Drake's music. For example Black Mountain Blues and Smoking Too Long are songs that I find very bluesy. I would not reference what I am saying but surely someone has written something about the blues in Nick Drake's music. It would be awesome if it was listed as one of the genres that his music belongs to as some people forget about the blues side of Nick. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.206.222.216 ( talk) 14:41, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
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Hello everyone,
I started this RFC to establish a consensus regarding the following: Three different users remove the infobox, something which I believe is because of personal preferences. However, I can not read the minds of other peoples, so I just want to hear from other people what they think about the removal of the infobox. User:WesleyDodds cited on my talk page WP:BRD, now let us discuss. My opponents think the infobox is mandatory, and I think it is mandatory but very useful for quick-checks. Since this is a featured article, it is a wise decision of me to avoid further edit-wars. Regards.-- Tomcat ( 7) 13:19, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
Hello, Is it deliberate not to mention bootleg recordings, like "Tanworth-in-Arden 1967/68" or "Time has told me"? They are available on Amazon and in record shops. Non official, but available. Can I add them, or should we not mention bootlegs here?
Hjuvi ( talk) 09:23, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
A user has removed this so I thought I'd check it out. The Melancholy Haunting of Nicholas Parkes appears to be part of an anthology published by a writers group in Derby. I'm sure it's worth a read but the story and its author fail WP:GNG so shouldn't be included in this article. Paul MacDermott ( talk) 17:13, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
The story featured as the lead story in a single-author hardback collection called "Tenebrous Tales" by Christopher Barker which was published in 2010 by the Ex Occidente Press. It was subsequently reviewed in a "Best Of Year Horror" hardback anthology edited by Ellen Datlow, receiving an 'Honorable Mention'. According to the Amazon kindle entry, where the story is available to purchase as an e book, it has been read & commented upon by Drake's manager, Joe Boyd, who acknowledges that is based upon Nick Drake. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.24.154.210 ( talk) 21:24, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
Nit-picking. You are moving the goal posts with each comment. The original concern was the story did not appear in a book, that it appeared in an obscure regional anthology, ect, which was wrong. Now that this has been corrected, let's move on, and leave it alone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.24.154.210 ( talk) 22:20, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
Sorry but that is not just the way it is. What you mean is that arbitrary nitpicking is rife on Wikipedia. Numerous small presses are quite rightly referenced on Wiki and many of the authors published by the Ex Occidente Press have their own Wiki entries. Furthermore, copies of this sold-out book occasionally sell on Ebay for three figure sums, such is the book's collectability. Also, the book has been seen by Joe Boyd, Drake's manager, who has acknowledged it to be about Drake, and it has also been reviewed by Ellen Datlow, who is a well-known figure in literary circles. On all counts it scores relevance to Drake's posthumous popularity. It is certainly of more relevance than a television car advert. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.24.154.210 ( talk) 14:49, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
A link to Ellen Datlow's website, where she singles out four of Barker's stories for praise in her anthology, was provided in the initial revision. This praise first appeared in the original anthology, copies of which are available in any library, in addition to Amazon, ABE, Biblio etc. Datlow only comments on books she has actually read and physically held in her hands. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.27.211.1 ( talk) 12:49, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
Yes it does. The book's existence has been verified. It is listed on the publisher's website, it is listed on Amazon, Goodreads etc. Reviews of the book have been published in two notable sources [the British Fantasy Society's journal 'Prism', where Barker's book received the longest review in Prism's history, and in Ellen Datlow's anthology 'Best Horror Of The Year']. The size of the print run is largely irrelevant. Many works by writers, artists et al have been produced in small numbers. Of far more importance is the relevance of the work itself. Being cited for a 'Notable Mention' by the leading anthologist in her field suggests that the notability criteria has been satisfied. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.27.211.1 ( talk) 14:02, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi! Nice article, thanks. One thing that seems out of place for my taste is the remark about whether his relationships to women were "consummated" or not. I don't really see the relavance. 84.56.55.198 ( talk) 13:05, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
I'm also not sure that this section should contain snippets of songs that have been used in feature films. It's very unusual, after all, for a film to feature an entire song (unless it's a musical or music-based film). I'm far more concerned that we have references to the use of songs in adverts - for Volkswagen Cabrio and AT&T - which surely can have used only a few seconds of the music, and in probably what many would see as a very "inappropriate" way? But maybe there are media awards for this kind of thing. I am a bit baffled, however, as to why that entire section about Joe Boyd in 2009 and the 2010 tours has been removed? That seems to me to be perfectly "legitimate" and a real indication of popular re-awakening of interest in Drake's music. Martinevans123 ( talk) 13:27, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
Should a separate article be created to cover Molly Drake's recordings? They are attracting a fair amount of media interest, for example here, here and here. Ghmyrtle ( talk) 10:22, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
"Drake played piano in the school orchestra,..."
Orchestras don't include a piano, except for a few modern pieces that have a part for a piano, and piano concertos, for which the piano is not regarded as part of the orchestra. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.108.121.154 ( talk) 12:17, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
This documentary (documentary) Nick Drake: Life of a Fragile Genius on YouTube is verbatim w/ much of the article text. (Is one or the other therefore considered plagiarized?) -- IHTS ( talk) 11:35, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
I've trimmed the reference to the newly installed memorial blue plaque at Far Leys. I agree that "BBC Music Day" is inconsequential, but I think a mention of his only blue plaque is warranted. I hope this is acceptable. Unfortunately, it seems the plaque has the wrong year of birth: [1] Martinevans123 ( talk) 08:31, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
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five leaves left was named after the home of the sister of an eminent doctor who lived at far leys.
the sister, Mary Sanger, left her home, which was called 'Five Leaves' in Boston, USA, and emigrated to Britain where she lived with her brother and cared for him until the home was passed on to new owners. the Drake family purchased the property in 1952.
the album is not named after the cigarette papers as most people believe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vintagenickdrake ( talk • contribs) 12:29, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
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Added an audio recording for the article, although honestly I probably mispronounced many things. If anyone wants to record a better version to replace mine, please do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ailes Grises ( talk • contribs) 06:06, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
I'm puzzled by this reference to Pye Records. They specialised in this label for their cover versions? Perhaps it means Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley, Howlin' Wolf etc. on Pye International Records? Then it should say so. Rothorpe ( talk) 02:25, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
It needs to be made clear if this means Cambridge university. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.189.103.145 ( talk) 09:45, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
Seems clear to me. 188.116.36.6 ( talk) 06:20, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
I find that there is a lot of blues in some of Nick Drake's music. For example Black Mountain Blues and Smoking Too Long are songs that I find very bluesy. I would not reference what I am saying but surely someone has written something about the blues in Nick Drake's music. It would be awesome if it was listed as one of the genres that his music belongs to as some people forget about the blues side of Nick. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.206.222.216 ( talk) 14:41, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Hello everyone,
I started this RFC to establish a consensus regarding the following: Three different users remove the infobox, something which I believe is because of personal preferences. However, I can not read the minds of other peoples, so I just want to hear from other people what they think about the removal of the infobox. User:WesleyDodds cited on my talk page WP:BRD, now let us discuss. My opponents think the infobox is mandatory, and I think it is mandatory but very useful for quick-checks. Since this is a featured article, it is a wise decision of me to avoid further edit-wars. Regards.-- Tomcat ( 7) 13:19, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
Hello, Is it deliberate not to mention bootleg recordings, like "Tanworth-in-Arden 1967/68" or "Time has told me"? They are available on Amazon and in record shops. Non official, but available. Can I add them, or should we not mention bootlegs here?
Hjuvi ( talk) 09:23, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
A user has removed this so I thought I'd check it out. The Melancholy Haunting of Nicholas Parkes appears to be part of an anthology published by a writers group in Derby. I'm sure it's worth a read but the story and its author fail WP:GNG so shouldn't be included in this article. Paul MacDermott ( talk) 17:13, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
The story featured as the lead story in a single-author hardback collection called "Tenebrous Tales" by Christopher Barker which was published in 2010 by the Ex Occidente Press. It was subsequently reviewed in a "Best Of Year Horror" hardback anthology edited by Ellen Datlow, receiving an 'Honorable Mention'. According to the Amazon kindle entry, where the story is available to purchase as an e book, it has been read & commented upon by Drake's manager, Joe Boyd, who acknowledges that is based upon Nick Drake. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.24.154.210 ( talk) 21:24, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
Nit-picking. You are moving the goal posts with each comment. The original concern was the story did not appear in a book, that it appeared in an obscure regional anthology, ect, which was wrong. Now that this has been corrected, let's move on, and leave it alone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.24.154.210 ( talk) 22:20, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
Sorry but that is not just the way it is. What you mean is that arbitrary nitpicking is rife on Wikipedia. Numerous small presses are quite rightly referenced on Wiki and many of the authors published by the Ex Occidente Press have their own Wiki entries. Furthermore, copies of this sold-out book occasionally sell on Ebay for three figure sums, such is the book's collectability. Also, the book has been seen by Joe Boyd, Drake's manager, who has acknowledged it to be about Drake, and it has also been reviewed by Ellen Datlow, who is a well-known figure in literary circles. On all counts it scores relevance to Drake's posthumous popularity. It is certainly of more relevance than a television car advert. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.24.154.210 ( talk) 14:49, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
A link to Ellen Datlow's website, where she singles out four of Barker's stories for praise in her anthology, was provided in the initial revision. This praise first appeared in the original anthology, copies of which are available in any library, in addition to Amazon, ABE, Biblio etc. Datlow only comments on books she has actually read and physically held in her hands. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.27.211.1 ( talk) 12:49, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
Yes it does. The book's existence has been verified. It is listed on the publisher's website, it is listed on Amazon, Goodreads etc. Reviews of the book have been published in two notable sources [the British Fantasy Society's journal 'Prism', where Barker's book received the longest review in Prism's history, and in Ellen Datlow's anthology 'Best Horror Of The Year']. The size of the print run is largely irrelevant. Many works by writers, artists et al have been produced in small numbers. Of far more importance is the relevance of the work itself. Being cited for a 'Notable Mention' by the leading anthologist in her field suggests that the notability criteria has been satisfied. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.27.211.1 ( talk) 14:02, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi! Nice article, thanks. One thing that seems out of place for my taste is the remark about whether his relationships to women were "consummated" or not. I don't really see the relavance. 84.56.55.198 ( talk) 13:05, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
I'm also not sure that this section should contain snippets of songs that have been used in feature films. It's very unusual, after all, for a film to feature an entire song (unless it's a musical or music-based film). I'm far more concerned that we have references to the use of songs in adverts - for Volkswagen Cabrio and AT&T - which surely can have used only a few seconds of the music, and in probably what many would see as a very "inappropriate" way? But maybe there are media awards for this kind of thing. I am a bit baffled, however, as to why that entire section about Joe Boyd in 2009 and the 2010 tours has been removed? That seems to me to be perfectly "legitimate" and a real indication of popular re-awakening of interest in Drake's music. Martinevans123 ( talk) 13:27, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
Should a separate article be created to cover Molly Drake's recordings? They are attracting a fair amount of media interest, for example here, here and here. Ghmyrtle ( talk) 10:22, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
"Drake played piano in the school orchestra,..."
Orchestras don't include a piano, except for a few modern pieces that have a part for a piano, and piano concertos, for which the piano is not regarded as part of the orchestra. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.108.121.154 ( talk) 12:17, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
This documentary (documentary) Nick Drake: Life of a Fragile Genius on YouTube is verbatim w/ much of the article text. (Is one or the other therefore considered plagiarized?) -- IHTS ( talk) 11:35, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
I've trimmed the reference to the newly installed memorial blue plaque at Far Leys. I agree that "BBC Music Day" is inconsequential, but I think a mention of his only blue plaque is warranted. I hope this is acceptable. Unfortunately, it seems the plaque has the wrong year of birth: [1] Martinevans123 ( talk) 08:31, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
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five leaves left was named after the home of the sister of an eminent doctor who lived at far leys.
the sister, Mary Sanger, left her home, which was called 'Five Leaves' in Boston, USA, and emigrated to Britain where she lived with her brother and cared for him until the home was passed on to new owners. the Drake family purchased the property in 1952.
the album is not named after the cigarette papers as most people believe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vintagenickdrake ( talk • contribs) 12:29, 26 January 2018 (UTC)