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This article makes the Singapore New Towns sound like everyone loves them. However, from my experience in Singapore, this is not the case. Apparently a lot of people don't like the kind of communities that New Towns provide, specifically the older generations as they may have grown up in a traditional Malay village known as a Kampung. I believe I read about that at a museum in Singapore. Maybe someone should add something about that? I'll look into it when I have more time. Cdmckay ( talk) 16:03, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Why are there so many pages for the same place, like,
Ang Mo Kio Ang Mo Kio New Town Ang Mo Kio Estate Ang Mo Kio Planning Area
What's the difference and what belongs on this page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DaronDierkes ( talk • contribs) 09:56, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
@ Lemongirl942: If you are wondering why I moved the page to its current title, here are my sources: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] -- MageLam ( talk) 20:49, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
@ Lemongirl942: Before the very first time I edited this article, it was more or less a list of HDB towns in Singapore and not a full on article discussing about the topic (a role which is taken by Public housing in Singapore). [19] Anyways, I believe that the modern appellation "HDB town" is more prevalently used, although I won't deny the historical context of the term "new town". These days however, the term is preferably used to describe the way a HDB town is planned rather than as a descriptor. -- MageLam ( talk) 07:28, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
@ Lemongirl942: Regardless, I still believe it's important to include "estates" in the title. The HDB still maintain three areas under "estate" status and I believe its important to discuss this as well. -- MageLam ( talk) 17:19, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
Like I said earlier, the " Public housing in Singapore" article largely discusses about the topic of HDB towns and estates in general. This article is more than a mere statistical list of towns and estates in the country. -- MageLam ( talk) 17:25, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
@ Lemongirl942: Although the new towns are significant, estates should also be mentioned as well. Since this is a list article, it would be appropriate to have "and estates" or "and other estates" in the title, as the HDB includes these three estates in their statistical reports. -- MageLam ( talk) 13:42, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
@ Lemongirl942: So where should these estates be discussed then? I mean, they are after all closely related to the new towns as well, all but in name. -- MageLam ( talk) 14:47, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
@ Lemongirl942: True, very true. It is indeed a collection of several estates that are administratively consolidated after all. But what about the others? -- MageLam ( talk) 14:58, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
@ Lemongirl942: I don't really see how that makes a difference. If an estate is abolished by the HDB it is almost the same when you say that for a new town likewise. Should such a thing ever occur, a former estate or town could be mentioned in a section. Both new towns and estates are still HDB entities and possessions by right. In other words, I rather have the title of this article use the initial title before I changed it, "New towns and estates of Singapore". -- MageLam ( talk) 11:19, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
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This article makes the Singapore New Towns sound like everyone loves them. However, from my experience in Singapore, this is not the case. Apparently a lot of people don't like the kind of communities that New Towns provide, specifically the older generations as they may have grown up in a traditional Malay village known as a Kampung. I believe I read about that at a museum in Singapore. Maybe someone should add something about that? I'll look into it when I have more time. Cdmckay ( talk) 16:03, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Why are there so many pages for the same place, like,
Ang Mo Kio Ang Mo Kio New Town Ang Mo Kio Estate Ang Mo Kio Planning Area
What's the difference and what belongs on this page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DaronDierkes ( talk • contribs) 09:56, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
@ Lemongirl942: If you are wondering why I moved the page to its current title, here are my sources: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] -- MageLam ( talk) 20:49, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
@ Lemongirl942: Before the very first time I edited this article, it was more or less a list of HDB towns in Singapore and not a full on article discussing about the topic (a role which is taken by Public housing in Singapore). [19] Anyways, I believe that the modern appellation "HDB town" is more prevalently used, although I won't deny the historical context of the term "new town". These days however, the term is preferably used to describe the way a HDB town is planned rather than as a descriptor. -- MageLam ( talk) 07:28, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
@ Lemongirl942: Regardless, I still believe it's important to include "estates" in the title. The HDB still maintain three areas under "estate" status and I believe its important to discuss this as well. -- MageLam ( talk) 17:19, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
Like I said earlier, the " Public housing in Singapore" article largely discusses about the topic of HDB towns and estates in general. This article is more than a mere statistical list of towns and estates in the country. -- MageLam ( talk) 17:25, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
@ Lemongirl942: Although the new towns are significant, estates should also be mentioned as well. Since this is a list article, it would be appropriate to have "and estates" or "and other estates" in the title, as the HDB includes these three estates in their statistical reports. -- MageLam ( talk) 13:42, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
@ Lemongirl942: So where should these estates be discussed then? I mean, they are after all closely related to the new towns as well, all but in name. -- MageLam ( talk) 14:47, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
@ Lemongirl942: True, very true. It is indeed a collection of several estates that are administratively consolidated after all. But what about the others? -- MageLam ( talk) 14:58, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
@ Lemongirl942: I don't really see how that makes a difference. If an estate is abolished by the HDB it is almost the same when you say that for a new town likewise. Should such a thing ever occur, a former estate or town could be mentioned in a section. Both new towns and estates are still HDB entities and possessions by right. In other words, I rather have the title of this article use the initial title before I changed it, "New towns and estates of Singapore". -- MageLam ( talk) 11:19, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
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