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The article mentions a number of people being charged, who were they? Specifically were they members of the police or of a particular political group, etc. Kevink707 ( talk) 20:09, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
The first sentence says, the massacre was carried out by Indian BSF. Is it true? BSF stands for Boarder Security Force. Later mentioned it was by mob attackers. Wahabdr ( talk • contribs) abdulwahab 10:35, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
(This is from a non-Muslim-non-Hindu-non-Tribal-non-Indian-non-Bangladeshi scholar) I edited the first sentence and the "perpetrator" item on the right and added a reference to the only scholar work on the issue. The involvement of several local villagers is certain, but their identity and the identity of their patrons is a matter of debate (made difficult by the official report being kept unpublished) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coleshvar ( talk • contribs) 15:39, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
I have removed material cited from Blogspot, Milligazette, and Ummah dot com. If you disagree with this edit, please discuss why any of these sources meet WP:RS. Pectore talk 00:38, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
I just reverted the "illegal immigrants" bit, for two main reasons. First, an image does not under any circumstances qualify as a source. Second, those "articles" don't use the term illegal; they say Bengali immigrants, who had been given voting status (and hence had been legalized, in a sense). Regardless, not good enough sourcing, not by some distance. Vanamonde93 ( talk) 03:15, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
The word Muslim certainly appeared in the article, because the victims were primarily of that religion. The term was edited out by a newbie [1] without any policy-bound reason. Vanamonde93 ( talk) 21:06, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
The Nellie Massacre is described in several works on violence against Muslims in India, it is considered one of the main instances of anti-muslim pogroms. That is why the Massacre is included in the template about Violence against Muslims, and since the template includes the Nellie Massacre it is natural that the template is found in the article about the Nellie Massacre, so that readers can easily find links to articles about similar events. regardless of the fact that the massacre had a complex set of motivations which included both nationalist, political and ethnic tension as well as religious tensions. Secondly religion and ethnicity are obviously tied closely together in India and most other places so that distinguishing between ethnic riots and religious riots is impossible. ·maunus · snunɐɯ· 17:55, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Points against using the template are
Here is one document you can read to understand about the indigenous Vs immigrant problem faced in Assam.
Maunus, Good night Prodigyhk ( talk) 18:54, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Unfortunately those sources are wrong. Makiko Kimura is an authority on the Nellie massacre, who spent 10 years studying it and wrote a book on it. According to her, it was an election-related violence, with clashes between those who supported the election and those who opposed it. [1] Who was responsible for the election? Well, it was Indira Gandhi, who was a communalist par excellence in the 1980's. Kautilya3 ( talk) 09:41, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
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The article mentions the background and result of the massacre, but not what actually happened. How were the 2191 people killed? Were they shot, beaten to death? Were they killed by mobs or organized paramilitary forces? These details need to be included. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.153.19.61 ( talk) 10:03, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
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Tagging user Kautilya3. The 10th source [1] on the page clearly states that 1800 Bengali Hindus were killed in the massacre as well. Hence the page should be edited to a communal massacre page mentioning both Hindu and muslim victims. BomaiyukBatt ( talk) 13:43, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
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I did not notice it at first, but this edit is definitely vandalism. It inserts a point of view into the cited quote part of the reference. This is definitely not an innocent mistake by a new editor, who incidently created the account today. I have not been following this article as often in recent times (RL), but this seems to be a pattern. Alerting Kautilya3. Chaipau ( talk) 13:10, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
User:User:45.50.164.192 you cannot be putting random numbers in Nellie massacre without reliable sources sources and you should not be reverting to your preferred version. Untamed1910 ( talk) 02:35, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
The editors are clearly politically biased, and are trying to smear the Tiwa community. This is the death and brutal murder of true reporting, any decent human being who is reading this article can disregard any information mentioned in this article.
Its a huge shame that Wikipedia has turned into a political tool. People who are clearly not Assamese, and definitely not from Nellie are now banning indigenous people from editing this article. Shame. Porkmarket ( talk) 07:03, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
On why you shouldnt be reading Wikipedia and form opinions. This is the death of unbiased reporting. A huge shame. Porkmarket ( talk) 07:27, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
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The article mentions a number of people being charged, who were they? Specifically were they members of the police or of a particular political group, etc. Kevink707 ( talk) 20:09, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
The first sentence says, the massacre was carried out by Indian BSF. Is it true? BSF stands for Boarder Security Force. Later mentioned it was by mob attackers. Wahabdr ( talk • contribs) abdulwahab 10:35, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
(This is from a non-Muslim-non-Hindu-non-Tribal-non-Indian-non-Bangladeshi scholar) I edited the first sentence and the "perpetrator" item on the right and added a reference to the only scholar work on the issue. The involvement of several local villagers is certain, but their identity and the identity of their patrons is a matter of debate (made difficult by the official report being kept unpublished) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coleshvar ( talk • contribs) 15:39, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
I have removed material cited from Blogspot, Milligazette, and Ummah dot com. If you disagree with this edit, please discuss why any of these sources meet WP:RS. Pectore talk 00:38, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
I just reverted the "illegal immigrants" bit, for two main reasons. First, an image does not under any circumstances qualify as a source. Second, those "articles" don't use the term illegal; they say Bengali immigrants, who had been given voting status (and hence had been legalized, in a sense). Regardless, not good enough sourcing, not by some distance. Vanamonde93 ( talk) 03:15, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
The word Muslim certainly appeared in the article, because the victims were primarily of that religion. The term was edited out by a newbie [1] without any policy-bound reason. Vanamonde93 ( talk) 21:06, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
The Nellie Massacre is described in several works on violence against Muslims in India, it is considered one of the main instances of anti-muslim pogroms. That is why the Massacre is included in the template about Violence against Muslims, and since the template includes the Nellie Massacre it is natural that the template is found in the article about the Nellie Massacre, so that readers can easily find links to articles about similar events. regardless of the fact that the massacre had a complex set of motivations which included both nationalist, political and ethnic tension as well as religious tensions. Secondly religion and ethnicity are obviously tied closely together in India and most other places so that distinguishing between ethnic riots and religious riots is impossible. ·maunus · snunɐɯ· 17:55, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Points against using the template are
Here is one document you can read to understand about the indigenous Vs immigrant problem faced in Assam.
Maunus, Good night Prodigyhk ( talk) 18:54, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Unfortunately those sources are wrong. Makiko Kimura is an authority on the Nellie massacre, who spent 10 years studying it and wrote a book on it. According to her, it was an election-related violence, with clashes between those who supported the election and those who opposed it. [1] Who was responsible for the election? Well, it was Indira Gandhi, who was a communalist par excellence in the 1980's. Kautilya3 ( talk) 09:41, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
References
The article mentions the background and result of the massacre, but not what actually happened. How were the 2191 people killed? Were they shot, beaten to death? Were they killed by mobs or organized paramilitary forces? These details need to be included. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.153.19.61 ( talk) 10:03, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
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Tagging user Kautilya3. The 10th source [1] on the page clearly states that 1800 Bengali Hindus were killed in the massacre as well. Hence the page should be edited to a communal massacre page mentioning both Hindu and muslim victims. BomaiyukBatt ( talk) 13:43, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
References
I did not notice it at first, but this edit is definitely vandalism. It inserts a point of view into the cited quote part of the reference. This is definitely not an innocent mistake by a new editor, who incidently created the account today. I have not been following this article as often in recent times (RL), but this seems to be a pattern. Alerting Kautilya3. Chaipau ( talk) 13:10, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
User:User:45.50.164.192 you cannot be putting random numbers in Nellie massacre without reliable sources sources and you should not be reverting to your preferred version. Untamed1910 ( talk) 02:35, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
The editors are clearly politically biased, and are trying to smear the Tiwa community. This is the death and brutal murder of true reporting, any decent human being who is reading this article can disregard any information mentioned in this article.
Its a huge shame that Wikipedia has turned into a political tool. People who are clearly not Assamese, and definitely not from Nellie are now banning indigenous people from editing this article. Shame. Porkmarket ( talk) 07:03, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
On why you shouldnt be reading Wikipedia and form opinions. This is the death of unbiased reporting. A huge shame. Porkmarket ( talk) 07:27, 24 October 2023 (UTC)