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Nagaokakyo (長岡京) is the same city as 'Nagaokakyo, Kyoto.' While the historical boundaries and modern boundaries are slightly different, they are most certainly the same location and the modern city encompasses the older famous sites of the capital such as Shoryuji Castle, Nagaoka Tenmangu, and Komyoji temple.
I suggest that we merge the two together so as to not confuse people into thinking that they are separate.
- Joshua Maciel 11:10, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
I am also opposed against merging the two posts together. To my knowledge, the present municipality derived its name from the Nagaoka Tenmangu shrine located on its territorry and not the capital (of which the major part and the government offices were located in present Mukō). [1] As Sushiya has pointed out, prior to 1972 there was no city called Nagaoka-kyō. From 1949 until 1972 the city was called Nagaoka-chō, and prior to that there were three separate villages, none of which were known as 'Nagaoka'. [2]
Also I would like to stress that Shōryūji Castle, Nagaoka Tenmangū, and Kōmyōji temple all postdate the Nagaoka capital and cannot be labelled "older famous sites of the capital" ( Joshua Maciel). Shōryūji Castle is believed to have been constructed by Hosokawa Yoriharu in 1339, Nagaoka Tenmangū was only constructed after the exile of Sugawara no Michizane at the beginning of the 10th century, and Kōmyōji temple was constructed on a site where Hōnen (1133-1212) used to live.
I understand the issue of growth rate. However, since the majority of the sites pertaining to the Nagaoka capital are located in Mukō rather than Nagaokakyō, one could also argue to merge the entry on the Nagaoka capital with that of Mukō. As the wiki entries are now, with the modern cities as separate entries and cross-referencing to the entry on the capital, I believe there is sufficient clarity and opportunity to add to the entries. Also it avoids confusion as to where the information on the Nagaoka capital should be added.
On a final note, there is actually a forthcoming book on the Nagaoka capital: Ellen Van Goethem, 2008, Nagaoka: Japan's Forgotten Capital, Leiden: Brill.-- Tsuruhime ( talk) 02:12, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Oppose in context presented by Tsuruhime. -- Tenmei ( talk) 13:47, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
ISSUE RESOLVED -- NO MERGE
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Nagaokakyo (長岡京) is the same city as 'Nagaokakyo, Kyoto.' While the historical boundaries and modern boundaries are slightly different, they are most certainly the same location and the modern city encompasses the older famous sites of the capital such as Shoryuji Castle, Nagaoka Tenmangu, and Komyoji temple.
I suggest that we merge the two together so as to not confuse people into thinking that they are separate.
- Joshua Maciel 11:10, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
I am also opposed against merging the two posts together. To my knowledge, the present municipality derived its name from the Nagaoka Tenmangu shrine located on its territorry and not the capital (of which the major part and the government offices were located in present Mukō). [1] As Sushiya has pointed out, prior to 1972 there was no city called Nagaoka-kyō. From 1949 until 1972 the city was called Nagaoka-chō, and prior to that there were three separate villages, none of which were known as 'Nagaoka'. [2]
Also I would like to stress that Shōryūji Castle, Nagaoka Tenmangū, and Kōmyōji temple all postdate the Nagaoka capital and cannot be labelled "older famous sites of the capital" ( Joshua Maciel). Shōryūji Castle is believed to have been constructed by Hosokawa Yoriharu in 1339, Nagaoka Tenmangū was only constructed after the exile of Sugawara no Michizane at the beginning of the 10th century, and Kōmyōji temple was constructed on a site where Hōnen (1133-1212) used to live.
I understand the issue of growth rate. However, since the majority of the sites pertaining to the Nagaoka capital are located in Mukō rather than Nagaokakyō, one could also argue to merge the entry on the Nagaoka capital with that of Mukō. As the wiki entries are now, with the modern cities as separate entries and cross-referencing to the entry on the capital, I believe there is sufficient clarity and opportunity to add to the entries. Also it avoids confusion as to where the information on the Nagaoka capital should be added.
On a final note, there is actually a forthcoming book on the Nagaoka capital: Ellen Van Goethem, 2008, Nagaoka: Japan's Forgotten Capital, Leiden: Brill.-- Tsuruhime ( talk) 02:12, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Oppose in context presented by Tsuruhime. -- Tenmei ( talk) 13:47, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
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