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Should the descriptive words "humankind", "humanity", and "mankind" (as they stand in the current version) all be used in the article rather than using only the word "humanity"? Buster Seven Talk 05:49, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
(as they stand in the current version)means that "humankind" remains at the lead, "humanity" remains in the "Terminology" section and the word "mankind" remains inside the quotes of the verbatim Joseph Campbell definition. When commenting please comment on both the RfC and the clarification. Δρ.Κ. λόγος πράξις 00:11, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
(as they stand in the current version)is clear enough. Anyone who wants to comment on this RFC is assumed to have read all of it carefully before deciding. In addition our current comments will also help clarify that the expression
(as they stand in the current version)means that the RfC participant agrees with the locations in which the words are placed in the current version of the article. Δρ.Κ. λόγος πράξις 22:41, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
RfC's work best when the question is as specific as possible. The endeavor is to eliminate disagreements, one at a time. If the RfC is too broad-based, at the end there is still confusion. ``` Buster Seven Talk 19:36, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
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From the entry under Myth-ritual theory: "According to the myth-ritual theory, the existence of myth is tied to ritual.[52] In its most extreme form, this theory claims that myths arise to explain rituals.[53] This claim was first put forward by the biblical scholar William Robertson Smith.[54] According to Smith, people begin performing rituals for a reason that is not related to myth...."
Could someone with knowledge of this subject supply an example or two of rituals people began performing that are not related to myth here? Rissa, Guild of Copy Editors ( talk) 02:39, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
Mythographer redirects to this page, but this page does not contain an explanation for what a mythographer is. It also contains links to Mythographer that then just redirect back here. 192.157.11.100 ( talk) 14:00, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
Should there be section-level coverage of Greek mythology, Roman mythology, Chinese mythology, etc. on this page? Power~enwiki ( talk) 00:26, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
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Is there any reason why we have an article for myth and an article for mythology? Why aren't they handled on the same page? :bloodofox: ( talk) 21:08, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
I understand that Joseph Campbell has a pop culture following, perhaps in part due to the influence Campbell's theories have had on, say, movies such as Star Wars. But Campbell's theories on, say, a so-called Monomyth have long been rejected by academics, and Campbell plays essentially no role in folkloristics, philology, or any of the various other fields that regularly focus on the topic of myth. I've just stripped a huge amount of quotes and references to Campbell from this piece per WP:UNDUE. What remains is a brief mention Campbell's monomyth theory and its rejection by academia.
Meanwhile, I note that the article completely ignores crucial figures in the field such as Georges Dumézil and gives some important figures, such as Bruce Lincoln, a single mention here and there. It looks to me like this article needs a total reworking from the ground up that actually reflects the study and history of the topic. I've tagged it for a rewrite. :bloodofox: ( talk) 21:11, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
I propose that we merge this page, mythology, to myth due to extensive overlap. Mythology is generally defined as either a body of myths or the study thereof, and one cannot discuss myth without discussing of its reception or its context. I see no reason why these two topics should not be handled in the same article, and it appears to me that splitting the two has in no way helped Wikipedia's coverage of the topic. Both articles are short and would necessarily cover the same ground. :bloodofox: ( talk) 21:26, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
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Should this page have short summaries of individual mythologies? Per WP:SUMMARYSTYLE, it could have a one-to-two paragraph summary of the most notable mythologies ( Greek mythology, Norse mythology, Chinese mythology ... I'm not sure how to choose which) in what would be an entirely new section. I don't see content in the lead sections of those articles that summarizes in the right format for this article. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 18:42, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
I think I can see where this is going; unless an unexpected way to select some mythologies to discuss presents itself, this isn't going to happen. Right now, the {{ Mythology}} template links to a bunch of these; I'm not sure I like how it looks but it's a good way to have links somewhere other than the article body. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 23:29, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
I've proposed that Atlas of Mauretania be merged into Atlas (mythology). Feel free to chip in on the talk page here. MajoranaF ( talk) 00:06, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
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Should the descriptive words "humankind", "humanity", and "mankind" (as they stand in the current version) all be used in the article rather than using only the word "humanity"? Buster Seven Talk 05:49, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
(as they stand in the current version)means that "humankind" remains at the lead, "humanity" remains in the "Terminology" section and the word "mankind" remains inside the quotes of the verbatim Joseph Campbell definition. When commenting please comment on both the RfC and the clarification. Δρ.Κ. λόγος πράξις 00:11, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
(as they stand in the current version)is clear enough. Anyone who wants to comment on this RFC is assumed to have read all of it carefully before deciding. In addition our current comments will also help clarify that the expression
(as they stand in the current version)means that the RfC participant agrees with the locations in which the words are placed in the current version of the article. Δρ.Κ. λόγος πράξις 22:41, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
RfC's work best when the question is as specific as possible. The endeavor is to eliminate disagreements, one at a time. If the RfC is too broad-based, at the end there is still confusion. ``` Buster Seven Talk 19:36, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
The RfC page says "The default duration of an RfC is 30 days, because the RFC bot automatically delists RfCs after this time. Editors may choose to end them earlier or extend them longer. Deciding how long to leave an RfC open depends on how much interest there is in the issue and whether editors are continuing to comment." )
From the entry under Myth-ritual theory: "According to the myth-ritual theory, the existence of myth is tied to ritual.[52] In its most extreme form, this theory claims that myths arise to explain rituals.[53] This claim was first put forward by the biblical scholar William Robertson Smith.[54] According to Smith, people begin performing rituals for a reason that is not related to myth...."
Could someone with knowledge of this subject supply an example or two of rituals people began performing that are not related to myth here? Rissa, Guild of Copy Editors ( talk) 02:39, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
Mythographer redirects to this page, but this page does not contain an explanation for what a mythographer is. It also contains links to Mythographer that then just redirect back here. 192.157.11.100 ( talk) 14:00, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
Should there be section-level coverage of Greek mythology, Roman mythology, Chinese mythology, etc. on this page? Power~enwiki ( talk) 00:26, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
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Is there any reason why we have an article for myth and an article for mythology? Why aren't they handled on the same page? :bloodofox: ( talk) 21:08, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
I understand that Joseph Campbell has a pop culture following, perhaps in part due to the influence Campbell's theories have had on, say, movies such as Star Wars. But Campbell's theories on, say, a so-called Monomyth have long been rejected by academics, and Campbell plays essentially no role in folkloristics, philology, or any of the various other fields that regularly focus on the topic of myth. I've just stripped a huge amount of quotes and references to Campbell from this piece per WP:UNDUE. What remains is a brief mention Campbell's monomyth theory and its rejection by academia.
Meanwhile, I note that the article completely ignores crucial figures in the field such as Georges Dumézil and gives some important figures, such as Bruce Lincoln, a single mention here and there. It looks to me like this article needs a total reworking from the ground up that actually reflects the study and history of the topic. I've tagged it for a rewrite. :bloodofox: ( talk) 21:11, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
I propose that we merge this page, mythology, to myth due to extensive overlap. Mythology is generally defined as either a body of myths or the study thereof, and one cannot discuss myth without discussing of its reception or its context. I see no reason why these two topics should not be handled in the same article, and it appears to me that splitting the two has in no way helped Wikipedia's coverage of the topic. Both articles are short and would necessarily cover the same ground. :bloodofox: ( talk) 21:26, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
{{u|
Mark viking}} {
Talk}
16:38, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Should this page have short summaries of individual mythologies? Per WP:SUMMARYSTYLE, it could have a one-to-two paragraph summary of the most notable mythologies ( Greek mythology, Norse mythology, Chinese mythology ... I'm not sure how to choose which) in what would be an entirely new section. I don't see content in the lead sections of those articles that summarizes in the right format for this article. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 18:42, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
I think I can see where this is going; unless an unexpected way to select some mythologies to discuss presents itself, this isn't going to happen. Right now, the {{ Mythology}} template links to a bunch of these; I'm not sure I like how it looks but it's a good way to have links somewhere other than the article body. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 23:29, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
I've proposed that Atlas of Mauretania be merged into Atlas (mythology). Feel free to chip in on the talk page here. MajoranaF ( talk) 00:06, 5 November 2018 (UTC)