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The result of the move request was: moved, with thanks to BD2412 for actually doing the work. Jenks24 ( talk) 16:26, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
– The first EQG film (along with its sequels) is a by-product of Hasbro's spin-off toy line and franchise (that spun out of My Little Pony) after all. Let's arrange articles like (Mattel's) Monster High articles. JSH-alive/ talk/ cont/ mail 12:45, 16 April 2016 (UTC) --Relisted. — Amakuru ( talk) 20:45, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
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Soon, I'm going to begin with the moving of the film article. @ Jenks24: please close this topic down. JSH-alive/ talk/ cont/ mail 07:34, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
@ 173.58.70.82:@ Prince Silversaddle:
Look, the revision you are reverting to describes EQG like if it is a film series with some merchandise, when actually the films are just a part of a franchise launched by toy company Hasbro.
When I made a similar reorganisation of structure to Monster High article, no Mattel fans on Wikipedia have ever complained about it.
Now, I have no idea if any of those reading here are going to take the live action Transformers films as the counter example (since, in that case, the films would have priority anyway, despite being based on the established mecha toy franchise, as well as Hasbro's involvement in those films), but I belive that, at least, if a media franchise was launched by a toy company, toys should have priority in the atricle about it.
So tell me. Which part feels unnecessary to you? 12:51, 18 May 2016 (UTC) JSH-alive/ talk/ cont/ mail 12:51, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
This topic is in need of attention from an expert on the subject. The section or sections that need attention may be noted in a message below. |
So, who's going to expand on details about toys, as well as on the themes of sub-lineups (EQG Y1, Rainbow Rocks, Friendship Games, Legend of Everfree, etc.), anyway? (Actually, I only know about EQG films, not much on toys.) JSH-alive/ talk/ cont/ mail 13:57, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Given the attempts to add the Equestria Girls versions of Twilight and Spike, I suppose it's best we include all the characters as well. I've taken the liberty of writing out descriptions of both characters, with the intention of adding the remaining "Mane Six" characters later. However, I don't think we should include every single character from the TV series that makes a cameo; just the most prevalent ones, such as those with character profiles on the official website. User:SubZeroSilver ( talk) 22:48, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
Obviously, this toy line was created not only to jump on rival Mattel's Monster High wagon, but also to lazily rely on Hasbro's own My Little Pony brand. But it needs to have reliable sources to prove that point. Any ideas? JSH-alive/ talk/ cont/ mail 13:34, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
Well, the official YouTube channel of Equestria Girls is not the only outlet to release the shorts, I say.
For the record, I based my edit about Minis shorts on this mlp.wikia page, but obviously I can't cite that page as a source, and I can't give them the clear dates because the shorts may have been released earlier than the given dates on that page.
Below is the Minis shorts section as I edited out.
A media tie-in to promote the Equestria Girls Minis toy line, the animated shorts ranging from 15 to 30 seconds in length are being showcased on various online outlets including the toy line's official website and official YouTube channel beginning in late 2015.
Title | Release Date | Starring | Duration | Note |
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"Pinkie Pie Slumber Party ft. Pinkie Pie" (initial release) | Late 2015 | Pinkie Pie | 25 seconds | This version features dialogs spoken in English. |
"Pinkie Pie Slumber Party ft. Pinkie Pie" (revised version) | February 2016 | Pinkie Pie | 15 seconds | This version does not feature any dialog. |
"Pinkie Pie Slumber Party ft. Twilight Sparkle" | January 2016 | Twilight Sparkle and Spike | 15 seconds | The revised version, released in February 2016, features some slight graphic alterations on-screen. |
"Pinkie Pie Slumber Party ft. Rarity" | February 2016 | Rarity | 15 seconds | |
"Pinkie Pie Slumber Party" | April 2016 | The six protagonists | 20 seconds | |
"Dance Off" | August 15, 2016 | Twilight Sparkle and Rainbow Dash | 30 seconds |
JSH-alive/ talk/ cont/ mail 14:52, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
With no objections present, I'm going to turn it back. JSH-alive/ talk/ cont/ mail 11:05, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
IPv6 anon, you had a chance to defend what you did, right here, but you choose not to leave a comment, and undid mine to just to add a new EQG Minis short? This is ridiculous! JSH-alive/ talk/ cont/ mail 11:55, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
Correct me if I'm wrong (especially on the subject of United States media industry), but I have my point.
IPv6 anon, you are clouding this issue by reverting those articles back to the past.
Apparently, what was listed as a 66-minute My Little Pony DVD produced during 2012 on Top Draw's website was turned out to be the first Equestria Girls film, and what looks like Rainbow Rocks is listed as a 70-minute DVD of My Little Pony in the productions for 2014. Additionally, Hasbro Studios' sales guide lists the films under "TV Specials" in its Table of Contents.
Generally, the kind of film that is direct-to-video is considered to be inferior than the mainstream films made for wider theatrical release, and such kind is not qualified for cinemas.2) But I saw the recent trends where the films of this kind are released in theatres (in a form of limited release, anyway) before its intended release on home media. Equestria Girls films are one of these cases, as some of the films were released in theatres in the United States, Canada and some of other countries before they were out on DVD and Blu-ray. However, no official or clear reason was given by Hasbro for releasing these particular apparently-video-films in theatres. (Not even an internal note was surfaced about this.)
For the releases in the United States and Canada, the first three films had big premieres each time, attended by some celebrities. The first film had one at the L.A. Film Festival3) 2013, and 2014's Rainbow Rocks had a similar event at TCL Chinese Theater. 2015's Friendship Games had no theatrical release in those two countries,4) but it did have a premiere at Angelika Film Center. Hasbro may have wanted these films to look as if they were competing against major animated theatrical films each time (like Monsters University and Despicable Me 2 from 2013, and The Book of Life from 2014), but there are some things that still bug me.
Firstly, Hasbro did release trailers for the films, but they all lack MPAA trailer cards. (Yes, those trailers are for the releases of each film in the United States, but all of them lack that slide! If those are for theatrical films for real, that card must be present for the first few seconds.) I don't know if those trailers were screened in theatres in the States at all.
Secondly, in Canada, the first film and Rainbow Rocks are classified by provincial film boards because all the films screened in theatres there are required to do so, but in the United States, none of the films that bear "Equestria Girls" in the title are rated by the MPAA to this day.5) I know that not all films are required to be classified in the States, but it's strange to see the supposed-to-be family films are "not rated". I have no idea why Hasbro choose not to have any MPAA rating for all the Equestria Girls films, when G.I. Joe: Retaliation (2013) and Transformers: Age of Extinction (2014) have ratings (PG-13, respectively) from there.
And thirdly, no box office records so far6) for all Equestria Girls films in the United States and Canada (especially the first two films). Is Hasbro shy enough to announce the films couldn't beat mainstream animated films every single installment was competing against each time, in earnings?
If you thought those films were theatrical films just because they were shown in theatres, then you are falling for all those marketing strategies.
Now, I have some questions.
My rant here is over, for now. JSH-alive/ talk/ cont/ mail 16:29, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
I think the reception section should also include critical reception of the films themselves and not just the dolls. There is one review on Friendship Games, but I do not think that it represents the entirety of the film series, as they have not all received the same level of praise. It could, for example say: "While the films themselves have received some praise by critics (using reviews from Rainbow Rocks), they have been criticized for their commercialization to sell toys."-- DeathTrain ( talk) 13:22, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
I removed the entire (short) section, seeing as all of its content was a duplicate of the previous section or seemingly plagiarised from the official summaries, though I may be wrong (citogenesis?). That said, the section itself might be on topic, if the writing were original. Arzg ( talk) 03:10, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
Starts this Friday. -- Masem ( t) 21:10, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
An IP keeps adding the info, the the toy series, not only the show, ended this year. However, there is no source proving this. Therefore it should not be included without a specific source. Gial Ackbar ( talk) 09:16, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
cc: @ DeathTrain
JSH-alive/ talk/ cont/ mail 15:09, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
JSH-alive/ talk/ cont/ mail 11:48, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: moved, with thanks to BD2412 for actually doing the work. Jenks24 ( talk) 16:26, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
– The first EQG film (along with its sequels) is a by-product of Hasbro's spin-off toy line and franchise (that spun out of My Little Pony) after all. Let's arrange articles like (Mattel's) Monster High articles. JSH-alive/ talk/ cont/ mail 12:45, 16 April 2016 (UTC) --Relisted. — Amakuru ( talk) 20:45, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
Redirect the following | to |
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My Little Pony: Equestria Girls (film) | |
My Little Pony: Equestria Girls |
Soon, I'm going to begin with the moving of the film article. @ Jenks24: please close this topic down. JSH-alive/ talk/ cont/ mail 07:34, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
@ 173.58.70.82:@ Prince Silversaddle:
Look, the revision you are reverting to describes EQG like if it is a film series with some merchandise, when actually the films are just a part of a franchise launched by toy company Hasbro.
When I made a similar reorganisation of structure to Monster High article, no Mattel fans on Wikipedia have ever complained about it.
Now, I have no idea if any of those reading here are going to take the live action Transformers films as the counter example (since, in that case, the films would have priority anyway, despite being based on the established mecha toy franchise, as well as Hasbro's involvement in those films), but I belive that, at least, if a media franchise was launched by a toy company, toys should have priority in the atricle about it.
So tell me. Which part feels unnecessary to you? 12:51, 18 May 2016 (UTC) JSH-alive/ talk/ cont/ mail 12:51, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
This topic is in need of attention from an expert on the subject. The section or sections that need attention may be noted in a message below. |
So, who's going to expand on details about toys, as well as on the themes of sub-lineups (EQG Y1, Rainbow Rocks, Friendship Games, Legend of Everfree, etc.), anyway? (Actually, I only know about EQG films, not much on toys.) JSH-alive/ talk/ cont/ mail 13:57, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Given the attempts to add the Equestria Girls versions of Twilight and Spike, I suppose it's best we include all the characters as well. I've taken the liberty of writing out descriptions of both characters, with the intention of adding the remaining "Mane Six" characters later. However, I don't think we should include every single character from the TV series that makes a cameo; just the most prevalent ones, such as those with character profiles on the official website. User:SubZeroSilver ( talk) 22:48, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
Obviously, this toy line was created not only to jump on rival Mattel's Monster High wagon, but also to lazily rely on Hasbro's own My Little Pony brand. But it needs to have reliable sources to prove that point. Any ideas? JSH-alive/ talk/ cont/ mail 13:34, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
Well, the official YouTube channel of Equestria Girls is not the only outlet to release the shorts, I say.
For the record, I based my edit about Minis shorts on this mlp.wikia page, but obviously I can't cite that page as a source, and I can't give them the clear dates because the shorts may have been released earlier than the given dates on that page.
Below is the Minis shorts section as I edited out.
A media tie-in to promote the Equestria Girls Minis toy line, the animated shorts ranging from 15 to 30 seconds in length are being showcased on various online outlets including the toy line's official website and official YouTube channel beginning in late 2015.
Title | Release Date | Starring | Duration | Note |
---|---|---|---|---|
"Pinkie Pie Slumber Party ft. Pinkie Pie" (initial release) | Late 2015 | Pinkie Pie | 25 seconds | This version features dialogs spoken in English. |
"Pinkie Pie Slumber Party ft. Pinkie Pie" (revised version) | February 2016 | Pinkie Pie | 15 seconds | This version does not feature any dialog. |
"Pinkie Pie Slumber Party ft. Twilight Sparkle" | January 2016 | Twilight Sparkle and Spike | 15 seconds | The revised version, released in February 2016, features some slight graphic alterations on-screen. |
"Pinkie Pie Slumber Party ft. Rarity" | February 2016 | Rarity | 15 seconds | |
"Pinkie Pie Slumber Party" | April 2016 | The six protagonists | 20 seconds | |
"Dance Off" | August 15, 2016 | Twilight Sparkle and Rainbow Dash | 30 seconds |
JSH-alive/ talk/ cont/ mail 14:52, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
With no objections present, I'm going to turn it back. JSH-alive/ talk/ cont/ mail 11:05, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
IPv6 anon, you had a chance to defend what you did, right here, but you choose not to leave a comment, and undid mine to just to add a new EQG Minis short? This is ridiculous! JSH-alive/ talk/ cont/ mail 11:55, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
Correct me if I'm wrong (especially on the subject of United States media industry), but I have my point.
IPv6 anon, you are clouding this issue by reverting those articles back to the past.
Apparently, what was listed as a 66-minute My Little Pony DVD produced during 2012 on Top Draw's website was turned out to be the first Equestria Girls film, and what looks like Rainbow Rocks is listed as a 70-minute DVD of My Little Pony in the productions for 2014. Additionally, Hasbro Studios' sales guide lists the films under "TV Specials" in its Table of Contents.
Generally, the kind of film that is direct-to-video is considered to be inferior than the mainstream films made for wider theatrical release, and such kind is not qualified for cinemas.2) But I saw the recent trends where the films of this kind are released in theatres (in a form of limited release, anyway) before its intended release on home media. Equestria Girls films are one of these cases, as some of the films were released in theatres in the United States, Canada and some of other countries before they were out on DVD and Blu-ray. However, no official or clear reason was given by Hasbro for releasing these particular apparently-video-films in theatres. (Not even an internal note was surfaced about this.)
For the releases in the United States and Canada, the first three films had big premieres each time, attended by some celebrities. The first film had one at the L.A. Film Festival3) 2013, and 2014's Rainbow Rocks had a similar event at TCL Chinese Theater. 2015's Friendship Games had no theatrical release in those two countries,4) but it did have a premiere at Angelika Film Center. Hasbro may have wanted these films to look as if they were competing against major animated theatrical films each time (like Monsters University and Despicable Me 2 from 2013, and The Book of Life from 2014), but there are some things that still bug me.
Firstly, Hasbro did release trailers for the films, but they all lack MPAA trailer cards. (Yes, those trailers are for the releases of each film in the United States, but all of them lack that slide! If those are for theatrical films for real, that card must be present for the first few seconds.) I don't know if those trailers were screened in theatres in the States at all.
Secondly, in Canada, the first film and Rainbow Rocks are classified by provincial film boards because all the films screened in theatres there are required to do so, but in the United States, none of the films that bear "Equestria Girls" in the title are rated by the MPAA to this day.5) I know that not all films are required to be classified in the States, but it's strange to see the supposed-to-be family films are "not rated". I have no idea why Hasbro choose not to have any MPAA rating for all the Equestria Girls films, when G.I. Joe: Retaliation (2013) and Transformers: Age of Extinction (2014) have ratings (PG-13, respectively) from there.
And thirdly, no box office records so far6) for all Equestria Girls films in the United States and Canada (especially the first two films). Is Hasbro shy enough to announce the films couldn't beat mainstream animated films every single installment was competing against each time, in earnings?
If you thought those films were theatrical films just because they were shown in theatres, then you are falling for all those marketing strategies.
Now, I have some questions.
My rant here is over, for now. JSH-alive/ talk/ cont/ mail 16:29, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
I think the reception section should also include critical reception of the films themselves and not just the dolls. There is one review on Friendship Games, but I do not think that it represents the entirety of the film series, as they have not all received the same level of praise. It could, for example say: "While the films themselves have received some praise by critics (using reviews from Rainbow Rocks), they have been criticized for their commercialization to sell toys."-- DeathTrain ( talk) 13:22, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
I removed the entire (short) section, seeing as all of its content was a duplicate of the previous section or seemingly plagiarised from the official summaries, though I may be wrong (citogenesis?). That said, the section itself might be on topic, if the writing were original. Arzg ( talk) 03:10, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
Starts this Friday. -- Masem ( t) 21:10, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
An IP keeps adding the info, the the toy series, not only the show, ended this year. However, there is no source proving this. Therefore it should not be included without a specific source. Gial Ackbar ( talk) 09:16, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
cc: @ DeathTrain
JSH-alive/ talk/ cont/ mail 15:09, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
JSH-alive/ talk/ cont/ mail 11:48, 20 August 2023 (UTC)