It is another person, Maulvi Omar of bajaur, not this Mullah Omar of Kandahar, who is believed to be killed in Oct 2008 in Bajaur, as qouted in last paragraph with reference number 26.
202.125.156.122 ( talk) 05:40, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Mullah Omar did not fight as part of the Mujahedeen with Haraket-e-Inquilab Islami, he fought with Hizb-e-Islami (The Party of Islam), as it clearly says on page 19 of Ahmed Rashid's book, which is cited (#13). ( 67.193.131.83 ( talk) 18:16, 15 December 2010 (UTC))
This article suffers from major vandalism and needs to be completely reworked. 68.205.41.34 ( talk) 13:11, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Re: the recent edit removing information about the title Mullah Omar. I know nothing of Muslim history, but if he were claiming an ancient title, why not rewrite it but say so? If it is nonsense for him to do so, then the article should say so, but, knowing nothing about the religion, the title or the man, I can't see why this claim is unworthy of mention. What if a Spanish political leader suddenly started calling himself El Cid? For that matter, is it utterly meaningless that Martin Luther King was named after a great religious revolutionary? That fallen away Methodist, Ortolan88
amir al-mu'minin is the traditional title of the caliphs, the highest religious and political authorities in (sunni) Islam. parts of the information in the article was simply wrong, and the rest is highly dubious. If he called himself so, it should certainly be included as a fact in the article (for my part, I never heard about it), but not in this way. How would you think about a self-appointed pope? -- Elian
Actually, in that general vicinity there have been religious/political leaders, who took similar titles. Shamil (1797-1871) of Chechnya/Dagestan (he fought the Russians in the Caucasus) had people say "Muhammad is the first prophet; Shamil is his second." It is not as uncommon as the article makes out. There is precedent. Danny
Hmm... "said to belong to the prophet Mohammed". Am I being picky or would "rumoured" be a better choice of word? Lezek
Unless they were written rumours, said seems perfectly accurate to me. -- Derek Ross
taken from the article: This intense piety manifested itself in the destruction of two large statues of Buddha which stood at the cliffs of Bamiyan in Afghanistan, which some had considered archaeological and historical treasures. Osama bin Ladin commended Omar for ordering this action.
The article doesn't get better if polemics and sarcasm from another POV are added. Surely these phrases can be formulated in a neutral way... -- Elian
http://www.csmonitor.com/2001/1010/p1s4-wosc.html
the large portions of the biographical data seem to be taken from this public domain article - christian science monitor does not seem to be biased in favor of mullah omar (in fact, the article is pretty much advocating intervention in avganistan). thus, the portions of the articles are restored - it is not true that it was wrong data.
whatever, the information is from that article - maybe it should be rephrased, if it is not public domain - but the source is found.
"Omar is the first Muslim since the Fourth Caliph, a nephew of Prophet Mohammed, to publicly accept the Amirul title, a ranking in Islam nearly second to the Prophet. His title, "Commander of the Faithful," has not been adopted by any Muslim anywhere for nearly 1000 years." "The title of commander of the faithful which is characteristic of the caliph was created in the period of the first four caliphs. [...] The caliphs inherited the title c.o.t.f from each other. It became a characteristic of the ruler of the Hijaz, Syria, and the Iraq... Abd ar-Rahmnan III adopted the ways of the caliphs... he had himself called Commander of the Faithful and assumed the surname (...) This custom, which he was the first to practice, was followed and became an established one" ( Ibn Khaldoun, one of the most important arabic historians)
The title amir al-mu'minin was carried by the Fatimids, the spanish Umayads, the Almohads, and is carried until today by the Kings of Saudi Arabia and Morocco (Gerhard Endreß, Der Islam) Besides, it's not amirul, at least as much as in English you don't say "commanderofthe faithful". The article is rubbish. -- Elian
This article should be renamed to "Mohammad Omar", since the naming convention apparently omits titles such as Mullar, King, Sir etc. Some say he isn't qualified to call himself Mullah in any case.
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I am not sure the photo on the page is legit. Look at the photo at this link: http://www.rightword.net/Anuke/photos/mullah_omar.jpg and compare it to the one on the page. I think at the very least, the image has been edited. I am not sure the features shown actually belong with the background. Note especially the eyes, and how they appear different.
An anon inserted some praise of Bin Laden, which I thought POV. In the course of excising it, I realized that the article was disorganized. I rewrote extensively, trying to make it flow better. I need to look at the links and see if they're OK. Lots of the info needs references. I believe that there is further info out there. I remember reading about Omar's wives, the mansion he was building outside Kandahar, and the general shock when he went into a local shrine and laid hands on a robe said to have belonged to the prophet Muhammad. He donned the robe and showed himself to the crowds. All this needs to be documented. Zora 05:04, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Major fragments of this text are simply copied word for word from "Ghost Wars" by Steve Coll.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.6.219.210 ( talk)
--Specifically in the Overview section! "remarkably little is known..." is on page 287 of Ghost Wars. Elsewhere in the Wiki, fragments are taken word for word. Did Steve Coll help write this article?
LDH 07:11, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
I am removing the line that claims Mullah Omar is hiding in Pakistan. There is no evidence to indicate that, and Mr Karzai's simply claiming as such does not merit it as fact.
FWIW the guy at lower right in this montage http://wincoast.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=12750&d=1169354044 is purportedly Mullah Omar. The photo is from the reasonably sane paper Ash-sharq al-Awsat. LDH 09:20, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
I deleted the ref to
http://www.jihadunspun.com/theplayers/mullahoverview.htm
because Jihad Unspun is a very untrusworthy commercial website. See e.g.
http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Apr/08-205989.html
LDH 06:43, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
And you're going to call it "untrustworthy" because the US government says so and because it doesn't agree with their agenda? You might as well delete all website critizing ANYTHING since a lot of times, critical websites are deemed "untrustworthy" by other governments. Don't think I agree with the article or even the Jihad Unspun website, because I don't. But, to keep the article NPOV, I'm adding it back in. Armyrifle 14:43, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
I call Bev Giesbrecht (=Jihad Unspun) untrustworthy because she lies constantly. That's the only reason. LDH 15:16, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
IMO we should just dispose of these maybe-copyrighted maybe-unsound images. Instead of hosting them here, we could say in the ref's (press, official sites) "contains a photograph" or "purported photograph" or whatever.
Is Amir al-Mu'minin different from kalif?Does he became kalif? YODAFON 02:48, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm surprised there's no text about the relationship between Mullah Omar and Osama bin Laden. In Lawrence Wright's book The Looming Tower there's lots of information about this, and the negotiations between Mullah Omar and Prince Turki of Saudi Arabia about getting the Taliban to expel bin Laden. -- RenniePet 14:43, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
There is something very confusing about calling Omar the "successor" and "predecessor" to Rabbani, especially when the title at the top of the box is the "self-called Commander of the Faithful" that I doubt Rabbani claims. Also, it's by no means obvious that Omar's term in power ended in 2001, not if he's affecting politics in 2006 and pro-Taliban commanders are still loyal to him. 70.15.116.59 ( talk) 22:06, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
The background information for Mullah Omar states that his father died before he was born and that the responsibility for fending for his family fell to him (Omar). This would not be possible since it would be at least a decade before he would be old enough to accomplish much in the area of fending for a family (newborns and toddlers can't do much about putting food on the table). Therefore, his family must have relied on some other support system. I suspect this reference to Omar taking the responsibility for fending for his family has a POV issue behind it, meant to make out Omar to be a respectable man of noble character at the expense of presenting accurate, reliable information about his background. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.18.245.17 ( talk) 04:08, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
I've found this in the section:
"He was known to have often sex with sheeps during his early teenage years, and was locally well known as "Sheep-molester Mohammed" due his zoophilic habits."
Although it is funny and have certainly made me laugh for a few minutes, I doubt it has got anything to do with real life facts (but who knows), so I've deleted it. Winyetta ( talk) 17:14, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
More links and details on the bombing, a bunch of notable people got knocked out. [1], [2], [3]
71.191.40.106 ( talk) 13:38, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
this is not the same Mohammed Omar, is it? 'US strike' kills Taleban leader Rmhermen ( talk) 02:44, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
-I second this question. The facts look right, because he joined the taliban in the 90s. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.233.91.73 ( talk) 03:54, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
ARTICLE IS VERY POORLY WRITTEN AND SPEWED WITH WAR PROPAGANDA. TRYING TO SHOW HIM AS A VILLIAN- RATHER THAN A NEUTRAL COMMENTARY. ANY "INTERVIEWS" AFTER THE INVASION OF AFGHANISTAN ARE MORE SUSPECT. IF THEY DO NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT HE LOOKED LIKE, HOW ARE THEY SO SURE IT WAS HIM AND NOT NATO WAR PROPAGANDA?
"He is wanted by U.S. authorities for defending Afghanistan from a NATO invasion."
See the pro-Taliban POV edit there.
This is why I will never trust this site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.99.202.223 ( talk) 12:31, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Seems like some mention of Abdul Ghani Baradar should be included. According to a recent Newsweek article, Abdul Ghani Baradar is now Omar's number-two guy. [4] 173.49.135.190 ( talk) 02:22, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
The article name should also include the word "Mullah" to make the person's identity much more clear. I know it is a title, but he is widely known as "Mullah Omar". So it is not a title any more, but it is part of his name. There are other Mohammad Omars - like the current governor of Kunduz Province. It is just a suggestion and I will wait for few days before moving the page and see what other Wikipedians will suggest. ( Ketabtoon ( talk))
where is written "Operation Enduring Freedom" now link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_(2001-present) and should link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Enduring_Freedom
is he really dead?!-- 70.54.33.64 ( talk) 06:09, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
I don't know much about this but the dates and places seem out of whack in several places. I thought folks like Nek Mohammed were a generation after this guy, and wouldn't have led anyone against Russia. The "several Muslims consider him to be emir" should probably be "the Taliban consider him...", and there are too many "thought to have beens" in here, which make the thing look like a gossip column.
Mullah Omar no more FBI’s most wanted
Should be incorporated into the article. Geo8rge ( talk) 01:56, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
The magnumphotos website as a photo source is not reliable, because it's heavy on scripts (not just JavaScript), won't display in Firefox, and won't display with NoScript on. - Mardus ( talk) 02:50, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
I do not think the picture used in the current article is the only known image of the man. This screen-shot of Mullah Omar in 1996 holding the cloak of Muhammad filmed by the BBC shows him [6], This image is also believed to be of him before he lost his right eye [7], This image of a man described as being Mullah Omar [8] looks very similar to this image [9] and this image [10], [11] shown in this Vanity Fair article [12] also bears similarities with [13], in terms of the beard line along the mans cheekbones. -- Ritsaiph ( talk) 03:28, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
Since the Taliban, who are in the best position to know, have denied reports that Mullah Omar died in 2013 and say instead that he died within the last two weeks, why does this article give the 2013 date? JRSpriggs ( talk) 14:29, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
The article currently lists the birth date as 1950-1952. The cited articles, as well as the sidebar, state 1950-1962. Note the third digit change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CCEA:17F0:D1FA:61CE:5105:74 ( talk) 16:05, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
It has come to my attention that as soon as recent reports of this individual hit the news in the last week, editors have constantly changed and added rather bizarre and amateurish statements and additions to this article. I will revert any nonsense. -- Ritsaiph ( talk) 07:05, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
There have been many attempts to introduce Karachi as his death place in the infobox factually. That claim was made by the Afghan intelligence and has been dismissed by the Taliban and has also not been verified independently. Please do not instate dubious, unverified claims. Faizan ( talk) 21:24, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
"Omar first arrived in Karachi in 1979 to study at the Jamia Binoria Dar-ul-Aloom... he graduated in 1982 and returned to Afghanistan... Omar regularly visited Karachi until founding the Taliban movement in the mid-1990s and its subsequent seizure of most of Afghanistan... After the 2001 overthrow of the Taliban regime, its leadership fled to cities in Pakistan. Many lived as refugees in Peshawar and Quetta, western Pakistani cities near the border with Afghanistan, but most headed for Karachi, the former Taliban minister said. However, Omar did not leave Afghanistan until late 2002, despite the urgings of his colleagues, according to the sources. When he did, he headed to Karachi. 'Karachi was Omar’s natural destination because he had lived there for quite some time and was as familiar with the city as any other resident,' said the former Taliban official, who was a member of the Quetta Shura, the Taliban’s cabinet-in-exile."
Source here
Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/article29940219.html#storylink=cpy -- Ritsaiph ( talk) 08:59, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/article29940219.html#storylink=cpy Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/article29940219.html#storylink=cpy
It is another person, Maulvi Omar of bajaur, not this Mullah Omar of Kandahar, who is believed to be killed in Oct 2008 in Bajaur, as qouted in last paragraph with reference number 26.
202.125.156.122 ( talk) 05:40, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Mullah Omar did not fight as part of the Mujahedeen with Haraket-e-Inquilab Islami, he fought with Hizb-e-Islami (The Party of Islam), as it clearly says on page 19 of Ahmed Rashid's book, which is cited (#13). ( 67.193.131.83 ( talk) 18:16, 15 December 2010 (UTC))
This article suffers from major vandalism and needs to be completely reworked. 68.205.41.34 ( talk) 13:11, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Re: the recent edit removing information about the title Mullah Omar. I know nothing of Muslim history, but if he were claiming an ancient title, why not rewrite it but say so? If it is nonsense for him to do so, then the article should say so, but, knowing nothing about the religion, the title or the man, I can't see why this claim is unworthy of mention. What if a Spanish political leader suddenly started calling himself El Cid? For that matter, is it utterly meaningless that Martin Luther King was named after a great religious revolutionary? That fallen away Methodist, Ortolan88
amir al-mu'minin is the traditional title of the caliphs, the highest religious and political authorities in (sunni) Islam. parts of the information in the article was simply wrong, and the rest is highly dubious. If he called himself so, it should certainly be included as a fact in the article (for my part, I never heard about it), but not in this way. How would you think about a self-appointed pope? -- Elian
Actually, in that general vicinity there have been religious/political leaders, who took similar titles. Shamil (1797-1871) of Chechnya/Dagestan (he fought the Russians in the Caucasus) had people say "Muhammad is the first prophet; Shamil is his second." It is not as uncommon as the article makes out. There is precedent. Danny
Hmm... "said to belong to the prophet Mohammed". Am I being picky or would "rumoured" be a better choice of word? Lezek
Unless they were written rumours, said seems perfectly accurate to me. -- Derek Ross
taken from the article: This intense piety manifested itself in the destruction of two large statues of Buddha which stood at the cliffs of Bamiyan in Afghanistan, which some had considered archaeological and historical treasures. Osama bin Ladin commended Omar for ordering this action.
The article doesn't get better if polemics and sarcasm from another POV are added. Surely these phrases can be formulated in a neutral way... -- Elian
http://www.csmonitor.com/2001/1010/p1s4-wosc.html
the large portions of the biographical data seem to be taken from this public domain article - christian science monitor does not seem to be biased in favor of mullah omar (in fact, the article is pretty much advocating intervention in avganistan). thus, the portions of the articles are restored - it is not true that it was wrong data.
whatever, the information is from that article - maybe it should be rephrased, if it is not public domain - but the source is found.
"Omar is the first Muslim since the Fourth Caliph, a nephew of Prophet Mohammed, to publicly accept the Amirul title, a ranking in Islam nearly second to the Prophet. His title, "Commander of the Faithful," has not been adopted by any Muslim anywhere for nearly 1000 years." "The title of commander of the faithful which is characteristic of the caliph was created in the period of the first four caliphs. [...] The caliphs inherited the title c.o.t.f from each other. It became a characteristic of the ruler of the Hijaz, Syria, and the Iraq... Abd ar-Rahmnan III adopted the ways of the caliphs... he had himself called Commander of the Faithful and assumed the surname (...) This custom, which he was the first to practice, was followed and became an established one" ( Ibn Khaldoun, one of the most important arabic historians)
The title amir al-mu'minin was carried by the Fatimids, the spanish Umayads, the Almohads, and is carried until today by the Kings of Saudi Arabia and Morocco (Gerhard Endreß, Der Islam) Besides, it's not amirul, at least as much as in English you don't say "commanderofthe faithful". The article is rubbish. -- Elian
This article should be renamed to "Mohammad Omar", since the naming convention apparently omits titles such as Mullar, King, Sir etc. Some say he isn't qualified to call himself Mullah in any case.
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I am not sure the photo on the page is legit. Look at the photo at this link: http://www.rightword.net/Anuke/photos/mullah_omar.jpg and compare it to the one on the page. I think at the very least, the image has been edited. I am not sure the features shown actually belong with the background. Note especially the eyes, and how they appear different.
An anon inserted some praise of Bin Laden, which I thought POV. In the course of excising it, I realized that the article was disorganized. I rewrote extensively, trying to make it flow better. I need to look at the links and see if they're OK. Lots of the info needs references. I believe that there is further info out there. I remember reading about Omar's wives, the mansion he was building outside Kandahar, and the general shock when he went into a local shrine and laid hands on a robe said to have belonged to the prophet Muhammad. He donned the robe and showed himself to the crowds. All this needs to be documented. Zora 05:04, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Major fragments of this text are simply copied word for word from "Ghost Wars" by Steve Coll.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.6.219.210 ( talk)
--Specifically in the Overview section! "remarkably little is known..." is on page 287 of Ghost Wars. Elsewhere in the Wiki, fragments are taken word for word. Did Steve Coll help write this article?
LDH 07:11, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
I am removing the line that claims Mullah Omar is hiding in Pakistan. There is no evidence to indicate that, and Mr Karzai's simply claiming as such does not merit it as fact.
FWIW the guy at lower right in this montage http://wincoast.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=12750&d=1169354044 is purportedly Mullah Omar. The photo is from the reasonably sane paper Ash-sharq al-Awsat. LDH 09:20, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
I deleted the ref to
http://www.jihadunspun.com/theplayers/mullahoverview.htm
because Jihad Unspun is a very untrusworthy commercial website. See e.g.
http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Apr/08-205989.html
LDH 06:43, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
And you're going to call it "untrustworthy" because the US government says so and because it doesn't agree with their agenda? You might as well delete all website critizing ANYTHING since a lot of times, critical websites are deemed "untrustworthy" by other governments. Don't think I agree with the article or even the Jihad Unspun website, because I don't. But, to keep the article NPOV, I'm adding it back in. Armyrifle 14:43, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
I call Bev Giesbrecht (=Jihad Unspun) untrustworthy because she lies constantly. That's the only reason. LDH 15:16, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
IMO we should just dispose of these maybe-copyrighted maybe-unsound images. Instead of hosting them here, we could say in the ref's (press, official sites) "contains a photograph" or "purported photograph" or whatever.
Is Amir al-Mu'minin different from kalif?Does he became kalif? YODAFON 02:48, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm surprised there's no text about the relationship between Mullah Omar and Osama bin Laden. In Lawrence Wright's book The Looming Tower there's lots of information about this, and the negotiations between Mullah Omar and Prince Turki of Saudi Arabia about getting the Taliban to expel bin Laden. -- RenniePet 14:43, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
There is something very confusing about calling Omar the "successor" and "predecessor" to Rabbani, especially when the title at the top of the box is the "self-called Commander of the Faithful" that I doubt Rabbani claims. Also, it's by no means obvious that Omar's term in power ended in 2001, not if he's affecting politics in 2006 and pro-Taliban commanders are still loyal to him. 70.15.116.59 ( talk) 22:06, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
The background information for Mullah Omar states that his father died before he was born and that the responsibility for fending for his family fell to him (Omar). This would not be possible since it would be at least a decade before he would be old enough to accomplish much in the area of fending for a family (newborns and toddlers can't do much about putting food on the table). Therefore, his family must have relied on some other support system. I suspect this reference to Omar taking the responsibility for fending for his family has a POV issue behind it, meant to make out Omar to be a respectable man of noble character at the expense of presenting accurate, reliable information about his background. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.18.245.17 ( talk) 04:08, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
I've found this in the section:
"He was known to have often sex with sheeps during his early teenage years, and was locally well known as "Sheep-molester Mohammed" due his zoophilic habits."
Although it is funny and have certainly made me laugh for a few minutes, I doubt it has got anything to do with real life facts (but who knows), so I've deleted it. Winyetta ( talk) 17:14, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
More links and details on the bombing, a bunch of notable people got knocked out. [1], [2], [3]
71.191.40.106 ( talk) 13:38, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
this is not the same Mohammed Omar, is it? 'US strike' kills Taleban leader Rmhermen ( talk) 02:44, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
-I second this question. The facts look right, because he joined the taliban in the 90s. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.233.91.73 ( talk) 03:54, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
ARTICLE IS VERY POORLY WRITTEN AND SPEWED WITH WAR PROPAGANDA. TRYING TO SHOW HIM AS A VILLIAN- RATHER THAN A NEUTRAL COMMENTARY. ANY "INTERVIEWS" AFTER THE INVASION OF AFGHANISTAN ARE MORE SUSPECT. IF THEY DO NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT HE LOOKED LIKE, HOW ARE THEY SO SURE IT WAS HIM AND NOT NATO WAR PROPAGANDA?
"He is wanted by U.S. authorities for defending Afghanistan from a NATO invasion."
See the pro-Taliban POV edit there.
This is why I will never trust this site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.99.202.223 ( talk) 12:31, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Seems like some mention of Abdul Ghani Baradar should be included. According to a recent Newsweek article, Abdul Ghani Baradar is now Omar's number-two guy. [4] 173.49.135.190 ( talk) 02:22, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
The article name should also include the word "Mullah" to make the person's identity much more clear. I know it is a title, but he is widely known as "Mullah Omar". So it is not a title any more, but it is part of his name. There are other Mohammad Omars - like the current governor of Kunduz Province. It is just a suggestion and I will wait for few days before moving the page and see what other Wikipedians will suggest. ( Ketabtoon ( talk))
where is written "Operation Enduring Freedom" now link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_(2001-present) and should link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Enduring_Freedom
is he really dead?!-- 70.54.33.64 ( talk) 06:09, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
I don't know much about this but the dates and places seem out of whack in several places. I thought folks like Nek Mohammed were a generation after this guy, and wouldn't have led anyone against Russia. The "several Muslims consider him to be emir" should probably be "the Taliban consider him...", and there are too many "thought to have beens" in here, which make the thing look like a gossip column.
Mullah Omar no more FBI’s most wanted
Should be incorporated into the article. Geo8rge ( talk) 01:56, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
The magnumphotos website as a photo source is not reliable, because it's heavy on scripts (not just JavaScript), won't display in Firefox, and won't display with NoScript on. - Mardus ( talk) 02:50, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
I do not think the picture used in the current article is the only known image of the man. This screen-shot of Mullah Omar in 1996 holding the cloak of Muhammad filmed by the BBC shows him [6], This image is also believed to be of him before he lost his right eye [7], This image of a man described as being Mullah Omar [8] looks very similar to this image [9] and this image [10], [11] shown in this Vanity Fair article [12] also bears similarities with [13], in terms of the beard line along the mans cheekbones. -- Ritsaiph ( talk) 03:28, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
Since the Taliban, who are in the best position to know, have denied reports that Mullah Omar died in 2013 and say instead that he died within the last two weeks, why does this article give the 2013 date? JRSpriggs ( talk) 14:29, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
The article currently lists the birth date as 1950-1952. The cited articles, as well as the sidebar, state 1950-1962. Note the third digit change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CCEA:17F0:D1FA:61CE:5105:74 ( talk) 16:05, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
It has come to my attention that as soon as recent reports of this individual hit the news in the last week, editors have constantly changed and added rather bizarre and amateurish statements and additions to this article. I will revert any nonsense. -- Ritsaiph ( talk) 07:05, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
There have been many attempts to introduce Karachi as his death place in the infobox factually. That claim was made by the Afghan intelligence and has been dismissed by the Taliban and has also not been verified independently. Please do not instate dubious, unverified claims. Faizan ( talk) 21:24, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
"Omar first arrived in Karachi in 1979 to study at the Jamia Binoria Dar-ul-Aloom... he graduated in 1982 and returned to Afghanistan... Omar regularly visited Karachi until founding the Taliban movement in the mid-1990s and its subsequent seizure of most of Afghanistan... After the 2001 overthrow of the Taliban regime, its leadership fled to cities in Pakistan. Many lived as refugees in Peshawar and Quetta, western Pakistani cities near the border with Afghanistan, but most headed for Karachi, the former Taliban minister said. However, Omar did not leave Afghanistan until late 2002, despite the urgings of his colleagues, according to the sources. When he did, he headed to Karachi. 'Karachi was Omar’s natural destination because he had lived there for quite some time and was as familiar with the city as any other resident,' said the former Taliban official, who was a member of the Quetta Shura, the Taliban’s cabinet-in-exile."
Source here
Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/article29940219.html#storylink=cpy -- Ritsaiph ( talk) 08:59, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/article29940219.html#storylink=cpy Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/article29940219.html#storylink=cpy