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The film is rated PG-13 and has a darker tone than the original, so can this page say it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:18D:4700:2D30:6C7D:ECF4:CCEF:2C3E ( talk) 21:15, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
Characters based from the 1998 original film had made themselves their new names for example:
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.255.216.208 ( talk) 21:01, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
I actually created an article about this movie back in 2010, two days after THR wrote about it. My article ended up userfied, though. Here it is: User:Manifestation/Mulan (upcoming film)
It's a stub, but it might contain some useful information for the new article. For one, the current page states that Chuck Russell was to direct the ill-fated 2010 attempt on making Mulan. While Russell was indeed considered, Jan de Bont was ultimately given the role of director, with principal photography set to begin in Shanghai on 15 September 2010. However, a 2010 net loss of the Bona Film Group caused the whole thing to be shelved indefinitely.
I actually googled this movie a few times in the years after that, hoping there would be news about it. Only just now did I see that a new Wikipedia article was created about it, and moved to mainspace in August 2018, almost eight years after I wrote my article!
Anyway, I'm a big root for this film. Let's hope it will be good! Cheers, Manifestation ( talk) 14:01, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
Deadline is reporting that the first trailer for Disney's live-action Mulan made 175.1 million views in it's first 24 hours, with 52 million of the views coming from China: https://deadline.com/2019/07/mulan-teaser-trailer-175-million-views-24-hours-china-worldwide-disney-1202643480/.
I'm hoping we can post this info in the "Marketing" section of the film's Wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.109.177.176 ( talk) 01:25, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
I’m a box office/budget nerd, so the alleged $290 million+ production budget of the film interests me. There’s plenty of articles surrounding the cost of the film ( https://comicbook.com/movies/2018/05/07/disney-live-action-mulan-budget-most-expensive-movies-ever-made/ and https://www.cbr.com/disney-mulan-record-high-budget-studio/ to list just two, plus Gong Li’s claim), so is it worth listing in the article y’all think? Just curious others opinions on it TropicAces ( talk) 18:07, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
China has a slight problem in its restive provinces like Xinjiang and Tibet, so therefore the next Mulan sequels should cover the diversity of China. Ruski653v ( talk) 18:04, 13 August 2019 (UTC)\18:04, 13 August 2019 (UTC)\\~~\
Hi! This story is still developing so I don't think it's yet ready for inclusion in the article, but the actress who will play Mulan in this movie, Liu Yifei, recently commented that she supported the HK police. Right now there is a large amount of civil unrest in Hong Kong and she is siding with the Chinese government. Seeing how big of a story Hollywood's censorship of itself related to stories that are negative of CCP China has become, I think it could be interesting and relevant for readers and great if an editor could find a way to include this story in the article once the news around it has finished or died down a little. I don't think there needs to be a whole section on it or anything, but as (mainly) a reader of Wikipedia I think this merits inclusion. However, since I'm not a normal Wikipedia editor and this is a somewhat controversial topic I'd love to hear some input from more experienced Wikipedians. Thank you. 2600:8801:C000:4C3:A827:1C77:2DE5:8E ( talk) 17:30, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
There is no evidence this impacted schedule decision-making by Disney. No doubt Liu's comment caused a lot of hot debate on Chinese social media between HK demonstrators and Chinese fans, which does merit discussion on Liu's page, but it does not belong here because there is simply no credible evidence it impacted the release schedule, which was clearly a decision based in COVID-19 impacts. Editors need to review Wikipedia policy and follow it. Therefore, I will edit.Xiao-zi : 小紫 22:33, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
The comments made have created a sizable internet following to boycott the movie, it would make sense to include a controversies section of the article to discuss this, as it is notable and highly relevant. DropBear42 ( talk) 03:30, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
No news about the new trailer of Mulan (2020)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.222.81.17 ( talk) 15:51, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
Nothing yet to be announced a new trailer of Mulan (2020)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2804:14C:598B:9BC7:FCF8:5413:F1C0:E0E7 ( talk) 14:30, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
The New theatrical trailer of Mulan is not coming yet? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.222.81.17 ( talk) 15:30, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
Will Mushu the Dragon be in this movie? Will Eddie Murphy reprise his role? -- DukeyDukeyDoo ( talk) 23:37, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
They delayed the release date of USA because of the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.222.81.172 ( talk) 23:46, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
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Change the part where it says that Mulan was delayed to July 24th 2020 because of covid-19, post-screening re-shoots, and Liu's comments to just being delayed to july 24th because of the Covid-19 pandemic. This is because the articles sited for the reshoots and Liu's comments were published over half a year before the film was delayed. The film also had a press screening for critics a week before its release and the response was good, so the comments and reported reshoots had nothing to do with the film being dealayed to july 24th 2020, and the pandemic caused it. Cforthewin ( talk) 00:32, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
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In the "Release" section, the words after "due to the" need to say " COVID-19 pandemic". 216.154.40.40 ( talk) 17:50, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Withdrawn by nominator -- ( non-admin closure) — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 16:33, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
Mulan (2020 film) → Mulan (2020 American film) – disambiguate against Chinese film of the same name (per WP:PRIMARYFILM) - St3095 (?) 05:37, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
Last night I proposed an Afd because recent news says the film was cancelled. But it got a speedy keep. This morning I moved the page to reflect the fact that it has been cancelled, but somebody reverted me immediately. What's wrong?? Georgia guy ( talk) 12:20, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
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Provide source for claim in main article opening "...it would instead be released on September 4, 2020 on Disney+ for a premium fee in countries where the service had launched. It will have a traditional theatrical release..." link to Q3 2020 Earnings Call where announcement was first made: [1]— Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.218.235.79 ( talk) 15:57, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
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Mulan is still going to be released in select North American theaters that re-opened simultaneously with Disney+, therefore not really making it a "Disney+ original film". So, it's shouldn't be considered a Disney+ original film in the external links. Let's remove that! (Source: https://www.complex.com/pop-culture/disney-mulan-decision-movie-theaters-explainer) -- Cody Fearless-Lee ( talk) - 9:57PM - August 10, 2020 —Preceding undated comment added 01:57, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
Here is the thing, this source you brought does indeed contain what you claim, HOWEVER it is one of the scarce few sources that states that some US theaters will play Mulan, outside of Twitter or other easily editable sources. This claim that "some US theaters will play Mulan" is just not strongly supported by many noteworthy sources. Honestly, I would be more on your side if this bit of info is elaborated on more, or at least mentioned in high level news sources like The Hollywood Reporter or Variety. Complex.com is not what I, or Wikipedia, can truly consider a high level, trustworthy source. I am sorry, but for now on, we can not include the idea of "some US theaters will play Mulan" because few sources barely mention it, nor can it be viewed as a theatrical release, due to the lack of substantial trustworthy sources. Cardei012597 ( talk) 07:20, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
I found the new theatrical poster for the film courtesy of Fandango Media since the film is still coming to re-opened theaters simultaneously with Disney+. So, how do I add the poster onto the article? Also, where did the Disney+ poster come from? Wikipedia's article on how to add images onto articles is not really helping me. -- Cody Fearless-Lee ( talk) - 10:20PM - August 10, 2020 —Preceding undated comment added 02:20, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
The poster from Fandango Media is not a free image, meaning Wikipedia can not use the image without a potential lawsuit. The Disney+ poster came from source(s) that allow free distribution of its images and content. Cardei012597 ( talk) 07:23, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
The BBC has published an article summarising the main feedback from a number of British publications such as The Times, The Guardian, Evening Standard, which can be used to source critic feedback from UK sources. The key findings centre around the release in the UK on Disney+ rather than in cinemas, and how the viewing experience suffers as a result as the director Niki Caro filmed scenes with the intention they be seen in IMAX cinemas, whilst the lead actress Lui Yifei is praised by several critics for her portrayal of Mulan. 146.66.63.86 ( talk) 14:20, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
At what point is it appropriate to replace the section currently titled "Premise" with the full plot of the film? -- SpiritedMichelle ( talk) 02:20, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
The credits and official merchandise list her as Xianniang, not Xian Lang. Other names listed may not match the credits as well, not sure. 173.235.73.176 ( talk) 17:31, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
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Link to Douban review: https://movie.douban.com/subject/26357307/ Ndougherty ( talk) 10:34, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
The lead is meant to summarize the article as a whole... seeing this is the case I feel we should include mention of the controversies in the lead. We can't just ignore the impact they have had on the film. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 22:18, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
The name of the ruling party that runs China should be changed. Calling it the "Chinese Communist Party" the far-right and Qanon more ammunition and also gives emphasis to the racial and ethnic nature of the name, and stresses the "otherness" of the party. It's a deliberate racial dog whistling. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:a000:1016:1c2:4c73:afa4:b114:9e2e ( talk • contribs) 20:53, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Yahoo got the PVOD sales numbers wrong. [1] "Yahoo had misinterpreted numbers from an analytics firm that estimated Mulan’s viewership, and the firm’s co-founder clarified that grosses were more likely $60 million to $90 million" (Brian Lichtenberger, explains more. [2])
Rather than having the incorrect statement from Yahoo and Indiewire only saying it was "unlikely" it should be removed entirely because it was incorrect and misleading. Yahoo seems to have changed the article, which now includes the note "Editor’s note: This article has been updated to show that 7Park’s data on “Mulan” reflected the percentage of active Disney+ users that had accessed the app over that time period." -- 109.79.177.141 ( talk) 07:10, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
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Audience response from IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes is not normally allowed because it is WP:USERGENERATED and not a reliable source. [4] However it is sometimes allowed when other sources give it a lot of coverage such as when there is a a big disparity, and that deleted section did include a reference to an article from CBR which was doing just that. It would be better if there was more than one source indicating there was a significant disparity between audiences and critics, maybe then there would be enough reason to make an exception and include more information about audience response.
Similarly the Chinese user voted ratings on Douban are not notable by themselves. They can only be included because they were reported in the South China Morning Post which makes them notable.
(Also could someone please remove the word "currently" which is a big fat
WP:RELTIME fail.) --
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An editor made a good faith edit and updated the Douban score. [5] I reverted to the score to 4.7, the number that was reported by the South China Morning Post (see above) and added a warning that the number should not be updated. -- 109.78.202.253 ( talk) 01:30, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
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Any suggestions on cleaning up the critical response section? It seems very one sided toward the negative reviews, despite prominent positive reviews from critics. There should be indifference in showing both sides. Articmonkeys ( talk) 06:16, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
< https://www.bbc.com/news/world-54064654> < https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/disney-under-fire-for-filming-mulan-in-chinas-xinjiang-province-4056383/> < https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/08/disney-thanked-groups-linked-to-china-detention-camps-in-mulan-credits.html> Yeah...I think this should be put in here. 165.73.227.130 ( talk) 21:31, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
The credits of the film say near the very end "the producers of the film wish to acknowledge the animated screenplay by Rita Hsiao, Christopher Sanders, Philip LaZebnik, Raymond Singer, & Eugenia Bostwick-Singer, and the story by Robert D. San Souci. The original film's directors aren’t even mentioned in the credits. And if look at the both the credits and the articles of Beauty and the Beast (2017 film), Aladdin (2019 film), and The Lion King (2019 film), they consider the original films' screenwriters to be the real creators, not the original films' directors (even though original 1992 Aladdin film's co-writers, Ron Clements and John Musker, were also the directors). And when making a feature film, the directors usually come in after the script is written and submitted. Brian K. Tyler ( talk) 04:30, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
But the movie is still based on the story of the original movie rather than the movie itself. And while it may be credited differently, the credits acknowledge the screenwriters (the ones who make or remake the story) but not the directors (the ones who lead the cast and crew to making the story appear on screen), pretty much like the aforementioned live-action adaptations I've listed. Brian K. Tyler ( talk) 21:46, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
Template:Infobox film/doc based on attribute supports your original interpretation. I withdraw my objection. Geraldo Perez ( talk) 22:23, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
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The film is rated PG-13 and has a darker tone than the original, so can this page say it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:18D:4700:2D30:6C7D:ECF4:CCEF:2C3E ( talk) 21:15, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
Characters based from the 1998 original film had made themselves their new names for example:
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.255.216.208 ( talk) 21:01, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
I actually created an article about this movie back in 2010, two days after THR wrote about it. My article ended up userfied, though. Here it is: User:Manifestation/Mulan (upcoming film)
It's a stub, but it might contain some useful information for the new article. For one, the current page states that Chuck Russell was to direct the ill-fated 2010 attempt on making Mulan. While Russell was indeed considered, Jan de Bont was ultimately given the role of director, with principal photography set to begin in Shanghai on 15 September 2010. However, a 2010 net loss of the Bona Film Group caused the whole thing to be shelved indefinitely.
I actually googled this movie a few times in the years after that, hoping there would be news about it. Only just now did I see that a new Wikipedia article was created about it, and moved to mainspace in August 2018, almost eight years after I wrote my article!
Anyway, I'm a big root for this film. Let's hope it will be good! Cheers, Manifestation ( talk) 14:01, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
Deadline is reporting that the first trailer for Disney's live-action Mulan made 175.1 million views in it's first 24 hours, with 52 million of the views coming from China: https://deadline.com/2019/07/mulan-teaser-trailer-175-million-views-24-hours-china-worldwide-disney-1202643480/.
I'm hoping we can post this info in the "Marketing" section of the film's Wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.109.177.176 ( talk) 01:25, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
I’m a box office/budget nerd, so the alleged $290 million+ production budget of the film interests me. There’s plenty of articles surrounding the cost of the film ( https://comicbook.com/movies/2018/05/07/disney-live-action-mulan-budget-most-expensive-movies-ever-made/ and https://www.cbr.com/disney-mulan-record-high-budget-studio/ to list just two, plus Gong Li’s claim), so is it worth listing in the article y’all think? Just curious others opinions on it TropicAces ( talk) 18:07, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
China has a slight problem in its restive provinces like Xinjiang and Tibet, so therefore the next Mulan sequels should cover the diversity of China. Ruski653v ( talk) 18:04, 13 August 2019 (UTC)\18:04, 13 August 2019 (UTC)\\~~\
Hi! This story is still developing so I don't think it's yet ready for inclusion in the article, but the actress who will play Mulan in this movie, Liu Yifei, recently commented that she supported the HK police. Right now there is a large amount of civil unrest in Hong Kong and she is siding with the Chinese government. Seeing how big of a story Hollywood's censorship of itself related to stories that are negative of CCP China has become, I think it could be interesting and relevant for readers and great if an editor could find a way to include this story in the article once the news around it has finished or died down a little. I don't think there needs to be a whole section on it or anything, but as (mainly) a reader of Wikipedia I think this merits inclusion. However, since I'm not a normal Wikipedia editor and this is a somewhat controversial topic I'd love to hear some input from more experienced Wikipedians. Thank you. 2600:8801:C000:4C3:A827:1C77:2DE5:8E ( talk) 17:30, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
There is no evidence this impacted schedule decision-making by Disney. No doubt Liu's comment caused a lot of hot debate on Chinese social media between HK demonstrators and Chinese fans, which does merit discussion on Liu's page, but it does not belong here because there is simply no credible evidence it impacted the release schedule, which was clearly a decision based in COVID-19 impacts. Editors need to review Wikipedia policy and follow it. Therefore, I will edit.Xiao-zi : 小紫 22:33, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
The comments made have created a sizable internet following to boycott the movie, it would make sense to include a controversies section of the article to discuss this, as it is notable and highly relevant. DropBear42 ( talk) 03:30, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
No news about the new trailer of Mulan (2020)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.222.81.17 ( talk) 15:51, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
Nothing yet to be announced a new trailer of Mulan (2020)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2804:14C:598B:9BC7:FCF8:5413:F1C0:E0E7 ( talk) 14:30, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
The New theatrical trailer of Mulan is not coming yet? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.222.81.17 ( talk) 15:30, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
Will Mushu the Dragon be in this movie? Will Eddie Murphy reprise his role? -- DukeyDukeyDoo ( talk) 23:37, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
They delayed the release date of USA because of the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.222.81.172 ( talk) 23:46, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
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Change the part where it says that Mulan was delayed to July 24th 2020 because of covid-19, post-screening re-shoots, and Liu's comments to just being delayed to july 24th because of the Covid-19 pandemic. This is because the articles sited for the reshoots and Liu's comments were published over half a year before the film was delayed. The film also had a press screening for critics a week before its release and the response was good, so the comments and reported reshoots had nothing to do with the film being dealayed to july 24th 2020, and the pandemic caused it. Cforthewin ( talk) 00:32, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
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In the "Release" section, the words after "due to the" need to say " COVID-19 pandemic". 216.154.40.40 ( talk) 17:50, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Withdrawn by nominator -- ( non-admin closure) — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 16:33, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
Mulan (2020 film) → Mulan (2020 American film) – disambiguate against Chinese film of the same name (per WP:PRIMARYFILM) - St3095 (?) 05:37, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
Last night I proposed an Afd because recent news says the film was cancelled. But it got a speedy keep. This morning I moved the page to reflect the fact that it has been cancelled, but somebody reverted me immediately. What's wrong?? Georgia guy ( talk) 12:20, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
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Provide source for claim in main article opening "...it would instead be released on September 4, 2020 on Disney+ for a premium fee in countries where the service had launched. It will have a traditional theatrical release..." link to Q3 2020 Earnings Call where announcement was first made: [1]— Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.218.235.79 ( talk) 15:57, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
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Mulan is still going to be released in select North American theaters that re-opened simultaneously with Disney+, therefore not really making it a "Disney+ original film". So, it's shouldn't be considered a Disney+ original film in the external links. Let's remove that! (Source: https://www.complex.com/pop-culture/disney-mulan-decision-movie-theaters-explainer) -- Cody Fearless-Lee ( talk) - 9:57PM - August 10, 2020 —Preceding undated comment added 01:57, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
Here is the thing, this source you brought does indeed contain what you claim, HOWEVER it is one of the scarce few sources that states that some US theaters will play Mulan, outside of Twitter or other easily editable sources. This claim that "some US theaters will play Mulan" is just not strongly supported by many noteworthy sources. Honestly, I would be more on your side if this bit of info is elaborated on more, or at least mentioned in high level news sources like The Hollywood Reporter or Variety. Complex.com is not what I, or Wikipedia, can truly consider a high level, trustworthy source. I am sorry, but for now on, we can not include the idea of "some US theaters will play Mulan" because few sources barely mention it, nor can it be viewed as a theatrical release, due to the lack of substantial trustworthy sources. Cardei012597 ( talk) 07:20, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
I found the new theatrical poster for the film courtesy of Fandango Media since the film is still coming to re-opened theaters simultaneously with Disney+. So, how do I add the poster onto the article? Also, where did the Disney+ poster come from? Wikipedia's article on how to add images onto articles is not really helping me. -- Cody Fearless-Lee ( talk) - 10:20PM - August 10, 2020 —Preceding undated comment added 02:20, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
The poster from Fandango Media is not a free image, meaning Wikipedia can not use the image without a potential lawsuit. The Disney+ poster came from source(s) that allow free distribution of its images and content. Cardei012597 ( talk) 07:23, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
The BBC has published an article summarising the main feedback from a number of British publications such as The Times, The Guardian, Evening Standard, which can be used to source critic feedback from UK sources. The key findings centre around the release in the UK on Disney+ rather than in cinemas, and how the viewing experience suffers as a result as the director Niki Caro filmed scenes with the intention they be seen in IMAX cinemas, whilst the lead actress Lui Yifei is praised by several critics for her portrayal of Mulan. 146.66.63.86 ( talk) 14:20, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
At what point is it appropriate to replace the section currently titled "Premise" with the full plot of the film? -- SpiritedMichelle ( talk) 02:20, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
The credits and official merchandise list her as Xianniang, not Xian Lang. Other names listed may not match the credits as well, not sure. 173.235.73.176 ( talk) 17:31, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
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Link to Douban review: https://movie.douban.com/subject/26357307/ Ndougherty ( talk) 10:34, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
The lead is meant to summarize the article as a whole... seeing this is the case I feel we should include mention of the controversies in the lead. We can't just ignore the impact they have had on the film. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 22:18, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
The name of the ruling party that runs China should be changed. Calling it the "Chinese Communist Party" the far-right and Qanon more ammunition and also gives emphasis to the racial and ethnic nature of the name, and stresses the "otherness" of the party. It's a deliberate racial dog whistling. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:a000:1016:1c2:4c73:afa4:b114:9e2e ( talk • contribs) 20:53, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Yahoo got the PVOD sales numbers wrong. [1] "Yahoo had misinterpreted numbers from an analytics firm that estimated Mulan’s viewership, and the firm’s co-founder clarified that grosses were more likely $60 million to $90 million" (Brian Lichtenberger, explains more. [2])
Rather than having the incorrect statement from Yahoo and Indiewire only saying it was "unlikely" it should be removed entirely because it was incorrect and misleading. Yahoo seems to have changed the article, which now includes the note "Editor’s note: This article has been updated to show that 7Park’s data on “Mulan” reflected the percentage of active Disney+ users that had accessed the app over that time period." -- 109.79.177.141 ( talk) 07:10, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
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Audience response from IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes is not normally allowed because it is WP:USERGENERATED and not a reliable source. [4] However it is sometimes allowed when other sources give it a lot of coverage such as when there is a a big disparity, and that deleted section did include a reference to an article from CBR which was doing just that. It would be better if there was more than one source indicating there was a significant disparity between audiences and critics, maybe then there would be enough reason to make an exception and include more information about audience response.
Similarly the Chinese user voted ratings on Douban are not notable by themselves. They can only be included because they were reported in the South China Morning Post which makes them notable.
(Also could someone please remove the word "currently" which is a big fat
WP:RELTIME fail.) --
109.79.177.141 (
talk) 16:07, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
An editor made a good faith edit and updated the Douban score. [5] I reverted to the score to 4.7, the number that was reported by the South China Morning Post (see above) and added a warning that the number should not be updated. -- 109.78.202.253 ( talk) 01:30, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
References
Any suggestions on cleaning up the critical response section? It seems very one sided toward the negative reviews, despite prominent positive reviews from critics. There should be indifference in showing both sides. Articmonkeys ( talk) 06:16, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
< https://www.bbc.com/news/world-54064654> < https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/disney-under-fire-for-filming-mulan-in-chinas-xinjiang-province-4056383/> < https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/08/disney-thanked-groups-linked-to-china-detention-camps-in-mulan-credits.html> Yeah...I think this should be put in here. 165.73.227.130 ( talk) 21:31, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
The credits of the film say near the very end "the producers of the film wish to acknowledge the animated screenplay by Rita Hsiao, Christopher Sanders, Philip LaZebnik, Raymond Singer, & Eugenia Bostwick-Singer, and the story by Robert D. San Souci. The original film's directors aren’t even mentioned in the credits. And if look at the both the credits and the articles of Beauty and the Beast (2017 film), Aladdin (2019 film), and The Lion King (2019 film), they consider the original films' screenwriters to be the real creators, not the original films' directors (even though original 1992 Aladdin film's co-writers, Ron Clements and John Musker, were also the directors). And when making a feature film, the directors usually come in after the script is written and submitted. Brian K. Tyler ( talk) 04:30, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
But the movie is still based on the story of the original movie rather than the movie itself. And while it may be credited differently, the credits acknowledge the screenwriters (the ones who make or remake the story) but not the directors (the ones who lead the cast and crew to making the story appear on screen), pretty much like the aforementioned live-action adaptations I've listed. Brian K. Tyler ( talk) 21:46, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
Template:Infobox film/doc based on attribute supports your original interpretation. I withdraw my objection. Geraldo Perez ( talk) 22:23, 27 April 2022 (UTC)