The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that according to Muslim sources, Muhammad IV of Granada was assassinated due to his alliance with Sultan
Abu al-Hasan, while Christian sources say it was due to his closeness to King
Alfonso XI?
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... that according to Muslim sources, Muhammad IV of Granada was assassinated due to his alliance with Sultan
Abu al-Hasan, while Christian sources say it was due to his closeness to King
Alfonso XI? Source: "Ibn Khaldun states that the Banu Abi l-'Ula family "disapproved of the alliance of the king [Muhammad IV] with [the Marinid Sultan] Abu l-Hasan and formed a conspiracy that ended in the assassination of the sovereign".
Fernández-Puertas 1997 p.7. "Ibn Khaldun sees the rebels as troubled by Muhammad's Marinid contacts, whereas the Castilian Chronicle explains his downfall as due to his Castilian contacts. Just before his death, Muhammad had been in negotation with Alfonso XI, and they had banqueted together, and exchanged presents." (Harvey p.188)
was the Nasrid ruler of the Emirate of Granada in Al-Andalus on the Iberian Peninsula from 1325 to 1333. He was the son of Ismail I and the sixth sultan of the dynasty. He acceded to the throne at ten years old when his father was assassinated. May I make a suggestion to compartmentalize the information somewhat differently: was the ruler of the Emirate of Granada in Al-Andalus on the Iberian Peninsula from 1325 to 1333. He was the sixth sultan of the Nasrid dynasty, succeeding to the throne at the age of ten, when his father, Ismail I, was assassinated.
According to near-contemporary historian Ibn Khaldun, they killed him because the Banu Abi al-Ula family considered the Marinid sultans their enemy, because the sultans had exiled them to Granada and considered them political dissidents this may be a bit hard to understand for the uninvolved reader; perhaps something like "According to near-contemporary historian Ibn Khaldun, Muhammad IV was killed because of his Marinid alliance: the Banu Abi al-Ula family had been exiled to Granada as political dissidents by the Marinids, and considered the latter as their enemies"
Granada and the surrounding kingdoms, 14th century in the caption, I strongly recommend adding the precise date, since borders did not remain stable over the entire century
Done. I agree, but in this case the border is approximate (the border thickness does not assert any specific borders).
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02:33, 8 August 2020 (UTC)reply
File:4th-Siege-of-Gibraltar-map.jpg needs sources (not a GA requirement, but would be good to have for A-class/FA) and some explanation what the flags are supposed to represent (I know, but the average reader won't)
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HaEr48: These are my comments from my first reading of the article. Overall, as usual, a quality job. Once these are addressed, I will have another read, and then pass.
Constantine ✍ 10:31, 7 August 2020 (UTC)reply
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HaEr48: I've had another read-through, and can't find anything missing. Did some minor tweaks. Since this looks good, I am happy to pass it now. Looking forward to seeing it at FAC :).
Constantine ✍ 13:07, 16 August 2020 (UTC)reply
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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that according to Muslim sources, Muhammad IV of Granada was assassinated due to his alliance with Sultan
Abu al-Hasan, while Christian sources say it was due to his closeness to King
Alfonso XI?
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... that according to Muslim sources, Muhammad IV of Granada was assassinated due to his alliance with Sultan
Abu al-Hasan, while Christian sources say it was due to his closeness to King
Alfonso XI? Source: "Ibn Khaldun states that the Banu Abi l-'Ula family "disapproved of the alliance of the king [Muhammad IV] with [the Marinid Sultan] Abu l-Hasan and formed a conspiracy that ended in the assassination of the sovereign".
Fernández-Puertas 1997 p.7. "Ibn Khaldun sees the rebels as troubled by Muhammad's Marinid contacts, whereas the Castilian Chronicle explains his downfall as due to his Castilian contacts. Just before his death, Muhammad had been in negotation with Alfonso XI, and they had banqueted together, and exchanged presents." (Harvey p.188)
was the Nasrid ruler of the Emirate of Granada in Al-Andalus on the Iberian Peninsula from 1325 to 1333. He was the son of Ismail I and the sixth sultan of the dynasty. He acceded to the throne at ten years old when his father was assassinated. May I make a suggestion to compartmentalize the information somewhat differently: was the ruler of the Emirate of Granada in Al-Andalus on the Iberian Peninsula from 1325 to 1333. He was the sixth sultan of the Nasrid dynasty, succeeding to the throne at the age of ten, when his father, Ismail I, was assassinated.
According to near-contemporary historian Ibn Khaldun, they killed him because the Banu Abi al-Ula family considered the Marinid sultans their enemy, because the sultans had exiled them to Granada and considered them political dissidents this may be a bit hard to understand for the uninvolved reader; perhaps something like "According to near-contemporary historian Ibn Khaldun, Muhammad IV was killed because of his Marinid alliance: the Banu Abi al-Ula family had been exiled to Granada as political dissidents by the Marinids, and considered the latter as their enemies"
Granada and the surrounding kingdoms, 14th century in the caption, I strongly recommend adding the precise date, since borders did not remain stable over the entire century
Done. I agree, but in this case the border is approximate (the border thickness does not assert any specific borders).
HaEr48 (
talk)
02:33, 8 August 2020 (UTC)reply
File:4th-Siege-of-Gibraltar-map.jpg needs sources (not a GA requirement, but would be good to have for A-class/FA) and some explanation what the flags are supposed to represent (I know, but the average reader won't)
@
HaEr48: These are my comments from my first reading of the article. Overall, as usual, a quality job. Once these are addressed, I will have another read, and then pass.
Constantine ✍ 10:31, 7 August 2020 (UTC)reply
@
HaEr48: I've had another read-through, and can't find anything missing. Did some minor tweaks. Since this looks good, I am happy to pass it now. Looking forward to seeing it at FAC :).
Constantine ✍ 13:07, 16 August 2020 (UTC)reply
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