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Goddess Parvati is a widely revered deity, who holds paramount significance in the Hindu culture. Although the image of her breastfeeding Lord Ganesha is to portray a motherly activity, the sight of a deity’s breasts pictured is deemed unholy, disrespectful and obscene. It is my sincere request to replace it with a woman’s image after her consent or any drawing that not provocative and doesn’t hurt any community’s sentiments. 2604:2800:1:3C90:BC97:D27D:6A20:E40C ( talk) 19:32, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
Then go a cover all erotic sculptures at Khajuraho. ChandlerMinh ( talk) 13:16, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
While I do appreciate the efforts of editors, I'm doubting whether the section LGBT motherhood gives due weight to the subject. The section takes up about one fifth of the word count of the whole article and is larger than both the lead section and Biological motherhood section. I'm suggesting to at least cut down the 'Trans motherhood' subsection to a single short paragraph, but I'm honestly not a fan of dedicating a whole section to this. However you look at it, LGBT motherhood is not nearly as prevalent as the 'mainstream' motherhood. If someone else has any suggestions or counter-arguments, please discuss. Otherwise, I'll be WP:BOLD. Cheers, Pyrite Pro ( talk) 19:24, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
Finally, most men in this study reported that it was difficult or impossible to be listed as ‘father’ on their child’s birth certificate, despite this being their parental identity. Some had to undertake a legal battle, or even adopt their own children, in order to be legally recognized as a father.Note that a law is not a reliable source, except for the assertion that the law exists. Some countries' laws categorize gay people as perverts, or Jews as traitors, but that doesn't mean Wikipedia needs to defer to those definitions. We follow the academic sources, which overwhelmingly refer to trans men as a subset of men, mothers as a subset of women, and thus trans men as not mothers. You're saying that trans men being parents should be discussed, and it is, in an article linked from the hatnote I added: Transgender pregnancy. Father should also have at least a sentence or two on the topic, but that's beyond the scope of this discussion.FWIW, if there's a concern on DUE-ness, I wouldn't object to combining the "Transgender motherhood" section with the preceding one for a "Lesbian, bisexual, and transgender motherhood" section. -- Tamzin cetacean needed (she/they) 00:10, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
Can someone convert the material within this image used in §Social role, into a chart as described at MOS:DTAB? This would make the information accessible to visually impaired readers, and bring into compliance with MOS:ACCIM. Chart would also be more readily updatable, as contributors could edit it with simple text. Thank you. -- dsprc [talk] 15:42, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
The only way I could see that was to say the word and I was going through a whole lot and then it just started coming back to bite and then it was just a bunch more of the way I had a little more of the other stuff that was in the bag…..,,,, 2600:1700:291:DCA0:659E:8E9B:635F:1930 ( talk) 01:23, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
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Goddess Parvati is a widely revered deity, who holds paramount significance in the Hindu culture. Although the image of her breastfeeding Lord Ganesha is to portray a motherly activity, the sight of a deity’s breasts pictured is deemed unholy, disrespectful and obscene. It is my sincere request to replace it with a woman’s image after her consent or any drawing that not provocative and doesn’t hurt any community’s sentiments. 2604:2800:1:3C90:BC97:D27D:6A20:E40C ( talk) 19:32, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
Then go a cover all erotic sculptures at Khajuraho. ChandlerMinh ( talk) 13:16, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
While I do appreciate the efforts of editors, I'm doubting whether the section LGBT motherhood gives due weight to the subject. The section takes up about one fifth of the word count of the whole article and is larger than both the lead section and Biological motherhood section. I'm suggesting to at least cut down the 'Trans motherhood' subsection to a single short paragraph, but I'm honestly not a fan of dedicating a whole section to this. However you look at it, LGBT motherhood is not nearly as prevalent as the 'mainstream' motherhood. If someone else has any suggestions or counter-arguments, please discuss. Otherwise, I'll be WP:BOLD. Cheers, Pyrite Pro ( talk) 19:24, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
Finally, most men in this study reported that it was difficult or impossible to be listed as ‘father’ on their child’s birth certificate, despite this being their parental identity. Some had to undertake a legal battle, or even adopt their own children, in order to be legally recognized as a father.Note that a law is not a reliable source, except for the assertion that the law exists. Some countries' laws categorize gay people as perverts, or Jews as traitors, but that doesn't mean Wikipedia needs to defer to those definitions. We follow the academic sources, which overwhelmingly refer to trans men as a subset of men, mothers as a subset of women, and thus trans men as not mothers. You're saying that trans men being parents should be discussed, and it is, in an article linked from the hatnote I added: Transgender pregnancy. Father should also have at least a sentence or two on the topic, but that's beyond the scope of this discussion.FWIW, if there's a concern on DUE-ness, I wouldn't object to combining the "Transgender motherhood" section with the preceding one for a "Lesbian, bisexual, and transgender motherhood" section. -- Tamzin cetacean needed (she/they) 00:10, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
Can someone convert the material within this image used in §Social role, into a chart as described at MOS:DTAB? This would make the information accessible to visually impaired readers, and bring into compliance with MOS:ACCIM. Chart would also be more readily updatable, as contributors could edit it with simple text. Thank you. -- dsprc [talk] 15:42, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
The only way I could see that was to say the word and I was going through a whole lot and then it just started coming back to bite and then it was just a bunch more of the way I had a little more of the other stuff that was in the bag…..,,,, 2600:1700:291:DCA0:659E:8E9B:635F:1930 ( talk) 01:23, 7 May 2024 (UTC)