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Is there some way to extend the rule about self written articles to employees of the person concerned? The lack of objectivity in this article is appalling. It really makes Wikipedia look like an amateurish piece of work.
It is way out of date and really doesn't give an objective picture of this person or the political environment in which they are functioning. Other than that, I have to agree with the comments above - this article is of a very low standard
-- 121.209.161.223 08:34, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
I am surprised and perplexed as to why this man's wikipedia entry doesn't go into detail about the constant flow of criticism against him as premier. The "no-one-voted-him-in-and-no-one-wants-him" premier of NSW has single handed performed more tax payer funded financial ruin projects than any in the history of labour.
Whilst he was off playing action-man equiping the police with insane new powers and totally destroying what little was left of our commonwealth legislative civil liberties he managed to pour more tax payers funds down the drain than any other; this is an ongoing pattern of this mans career, from when he was minister of health alone there is quite a tonne of text out there on how he had the 'irish midas touch', by which (if you'll pardon my french), everything he touches turns to shit.
Further his praise of certain ethnic communities which are primary funders of the ALP drew a lot of flak and criticism along with allegations of taking kick backs from large construction companies who in turn boosted the coffers of the ALP.
As a long time ALP supporter, I personally am scared out of my wits that such a meglomaniacal and corrupt politician has become our premier without a single vote, his track record is peppered with tragedy and ruin, yet not a single word is mentioned of this. Anyone willing to give me a hand with a criticism section? 211.30.80.121 09:08, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Alans1977 - would not 'have' not would not 'of'. FFS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.23.146.66 ( talk) 07:24, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
What difference does it make? No school teacher or academic in their right mind accepts Wikipedia as a reference. Our college has banned it from footnotes indefinitely. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.218.79.211 ( talk) 21:34, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
You are so deluded. WIkipedia is a joke. Once the Google version is up and running with proper accredited articles, Wikipedia will be history. By the way, your last sentence makes no sense. Well, about as much as your belief that Wikipedia has some kind of legitimacy. Dream on, loser. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.218.79.211 ( talk) 07:27, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
I am not convinced this event is of such significance that is deserves its owns ection in this article. Granted, at the time it made the headlines, but:
I would welcome any comments on why this section deserves its place of prominence. Jeendan 08:04, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
I also agree that it should be cut and I'm surprised it hasn't happened already.
Agreed. More on his policies and political views would be nice, but this issue is very minor, especially when there is not background given on the Cross city tunnel. Cut it. Recurring dreams 08:19, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
"There is no point in saving the planet if we ruin the economy doing it."
Did Iemma really make such a statement? If so, can we source this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ZwickauDeluxe ( talk • contribs) 07:45, 5 March 2007 (UTC).
News of something being alleged about Iemma is not something that should be in his bio, especially given that he has denied it. Even more ridiculous is having a wikipedia entry in which the subject matter is someone doing something to a wikipedia article. Alans1977 08:51, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Once again I have deleted that paragraph. Come on people, don't you feel that it is a bit silly to have tertiary reference material (on wikipedia) about someone editing an article on wikipedia. If you disagree with me on that, please convince me otherwise. Alans1977 18:58, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
I might be wrong about this (wouldn't be the first nor the last time) but I thought his surname was much closer to Lemma with an unaspirated [sp?] L than Yemma (first paragraph in the article/entry). Are there any linguists here who might have more of a clue than me. I don't really know well enough to be confident enough to change the article since most of what I know about linguistics comes from my ex-gf being a linguistics major. Alans1977 18:38, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
fix... talk about a freudian slip... *cough* Timeshift ( talk) 02:26, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
I'd like to see more evidence than the scant reference provided, where the only time it mentions the word communist is:
Timeshift ( talk) 15:02, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Where was he born exactly? 202.92.43.51 ( talk) 13:42, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
He is not a former politician or former Premier yet. He is still Member for Lakemba until he formally submits his resignation and remains caretaker Premier until a replacement is sworn in by the Governor. 203.7.140.3 ( talk) 05:20, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
This needs to be written as IPA pronunciation. 203.7.140.3 ( talk) 05:50, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
This addition is clearly not appropriate. Timeshift ( talk) 04:32, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
I recently added the below info to the article under 'Resignation' as it accurately represents with a neutral point of view a major factor for which Iemma had to resign as Premier.
In March 2010, the The Daily Telegraph reported that then Leader of the Federal Opposition, Kevin Rudd had made a pact with Iemma to promise to help the then Premier Iemma privatise the state's electricity industry in return for him delaying the project until after the 2007 Federal election. [1] The Daily Telegraph reported that they would go to war with the union movement after Rudd was elected if the State Government delayed its critical but electorally un-popular reforms. Rudd is reported to have said at a meeting in Sydney in September 2007: "If you help me, I'll get elected and you will prosper. Work with me and, when the time comes, we can f*** them [the union movement] together". [2] After the election when Iemma started to find tendors for the privitisation bid, Rudd is reported to have said that "It's a state issue, I can't get involved" when Iemma asked him to uphold his end of the deal. A week later Iemma was forced out of office. [3]
The edit has since been reverted with the edit summary as follows: "information of doubtful provenance, and noting this is a WP:BLP, it represents a WP:WEIGHT."
In BLP it asks that it represents the three core policies of WP:NPOV, WP:SOURCE and WP:ORIGINAL I struggle to find anything in the edit that contradicts the core policies of BLP, but a third opinion would be beneficial. In WP:WEIGHT, Due and undue weight this is one of the key critical reasons for the downfall of the Premier. It is appropriately represented under the title resignation as well as the size of the paragraph. Provenance, it is sourced from the Daily Telegraph and endorsed by Iemma himself. GJGardner ( talk) 11:35, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
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Is there some way to extend the rule about self written articles to employees of the person concerned? The lack of objectivity in this article is appalling. It really makes Wikipedia look like an amateurish piece of work.
It is way out of date and really doesn't give an objective picture of this person or the political environment in which they are functioning. Other than that, I have to agree with the comments above - this article is of a very low standard
-- 121.209.161.223 08:34, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
I am surprised and perplexed as to why this man's wikipedia entry doesn't go into detail about the constant flow of criticism against him as premier. The "no-one-voted-him-in-and-no-one-wants-him" premier of NSW has single handed performed more tax payer funded financial ruin projects than any in the history of labour.
Whilst he was off playing action-man equiping the police with insane new powers and totally destroying what little was left of our commonwealth legislative civil liberties he managed to pour more tax payers funds down the drain than any other; this is an ongoing pattern of this mans career, from when he was minister of health alone there is quite a tonne of text out there on how he had the 'irish midas touch', by which (if you'll pardon my french), everything he touches turns to shit.
Further his praise of certain ethnic communities which are primary funders of the ALP drew a lot of flak and criticism along with allegations of taking kick backs from large construction companies who in turn boosted the coffers of the ALP.
As a long time ALP supporter, I personally am scared out of my wits that such a meglomaniacal and corrupt politician has become our premier without a single vote, his track record is peppered with tragedy and ruin, yet not a single word is mentioned of this. Anyone willing to give me a hand with a criticism section? 211.30.80.121 09:08, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Alans1977 - would not 'have' not would not 'of'. FFS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.23.146.66 ( talk) 07:24, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
What difference does it make? No school teacher or academic in their right mind accepts Wikipedia as a reference. Our college has banned it from footnotes indefinitely. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.218.79.211 ( talk) 21:34, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
You are so deluded. WIkipedia is a joke. Once the Google version is up and running with proper accredited articles, Wikipedia will be history. By the way, your last sentence makes no sense. Well, about as much as your belief that Wikipedia has some kind of legitimacy. Dream on, loser. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.218.79.211 ( talk) 07:27, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
I am not convinced this event is of such significance that is deserves its owns ection in this article. Granted, at the time it made the headlines, but:
I would welcome any comments on why this section deserves its place of prominence. Jeendan 08:04, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
I also agree that it should be cut and I'm surprised it hasn't happened already.
Agreed. More on his policies and political views would be nice, but this issue is very minor, especially when there is not background given on the Cross city tunnel. Cut it. Recurring dreams 08:19, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
"There is no point in saving the planet if we ruin the economy doing it."
Did Iemma really make such a statement? If so, can we source this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ZwickauDeluxe ( talk • contribs) 07:45, 5 March 2007 (UTC).
News of something being alleged about Iemma is not something that should be in his bio, especially given that he has denied it. Even more ridiculous is having a wikipedia entry in which the subject matter is someone doing something to a wikipedia article. Alans1977 08:51, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Once again I have deleted that paragraph. Come on people, don't you feel that it is a bit silly to have tertiary reference material (on wikipedia) about someone editing an article on wikipedia. If you disagree with me on that, please convince me otherwise. Alans1977 18:58, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
I might be wrong about this (wouldn't be the first nor the last time) but I thought his surname was much closer to Lemma with an unaspirated [sp?] L than Yemma (first paragraph in the article/entry). Are there any linguists here who might have more of a clue than me. I don't really know well enough to be confident enough to change the article since most of what I know about linguistics comes from my ex-gf being a linguistics major. Alans1977 18:38, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
fix... talk about a freudian slip... *cough* Timeshift ( talk) 02:26, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
I'd like to see more evidence than the scant reference provided, where the only time it mentions the word communist is:
Timeshift ( talk) 15:02, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Where was he born exactly? 202.92.43.51 ( talk) 13:42, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
He is not a former politician or former Premier yet. He is still Member for Lakemba until he formally submits his resignation and remains caretaker Premier until a replacement is sworn in by the Governor. 203.7.140.3 ( talk) 05:20, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
This needs to be written as IPA pronunciation. 203.7.140.3 ( talk) 05:50, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
This addition is clearly not appropriate. Timeshift ( talk) 04:32, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
I recently added the below info to the article under 'Resignation' as it accurately represents with a neutral point of view a major factor for which Iemma had to resign as Premier.
In March 2010, the The Daily Telegraph reported that then Leader of the Federal Opposition, Kevin Rudd had made a pact with Iemma to promise to help the then Premier Iemma privatise the state's electricity industry in return for him delaying the project until after the 2007 Federal election. [1] The Daily Telegraph reported that they would go to war with the union movement after Rudd was elected if the State Government delayed its critical but electorally un-popular reforms. Rudd is reported to have said at a meeting in Sydney in September 2007: "If you help me, I'll get elected and you will prosper. Work with me and, when the time comes, we can f*** them [the union movement] together". [2] After the election when Iemma started to find tendors for the privitisation bid, Rudd is reported to have said that "It's a state issue, I can't get involved" when Iemma asked him to uphold his end of the deal. A week later Iemma was forced out of office. [3]
The edit has since been reverted with the edit summary as follows: "information of doubtful provenance, and noting this is a WP:BLP, it represents a WP:WEIGHT."
In BLP it asks that it represents the three core policies of WP:NPOV, WP:SOURCE and WP:ORIGINAL I struggle to find anything in the edit that contradicts the core policies of BLP, but a third opinion would be beneficial. In WP:WEIGHT, Due and undue weight this is one of the key critical reasons for the downfall of the Premier. It is appropriately represented under the title resignation as well as the size of the paragraph. Provenance, it is sourced from the Daily Telegraph and endorsed by Iemma himself. GJGardner ( talk) 11:35, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
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