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lol That picture of the American "monokini" is a man with breast implants. Look at how he lacks the female waist, female toroso utterly... And, look how skinny and long the legs are, like an Asian man. It's a man with breast implants (you can definitely tell it' implants, too), and that's why they are hiding their face in their hair. No offence intended to the transgendered... But, a picture of a woman in women's clothing would be more appropriate than potentially disturbing people sensitive to such sights. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.223.117.225 ( talk) 21:59, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
The article has been mreged with Bikini earlier, but with new information flooding in it was thought wise that Monkini shall have its own article again. Cheers. Aditya( talk • contribs) 12:28, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
The one problem is that the fashion world now has two different types of bathing suits considered a "monokini." See: [1] for the other type (basically a one piece that has been cut to display your abs but still covers your chest. 70.24.147.133 ( talk) 22:42, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
yes, it's found in the reference cited, but it seems rather unlikely to me, because the Soviets (and the other Eastern block countries) were rather tolerant with nudity on beaches. bogdan ( talk) 20:54, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
The image Topless_women_on_the_beach.jpg seems really out of place here, none of the women in the picture are wearing a monokini. Remove? 85.252.185.219 ( talk) 23:55, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Oh well, since no one did it, I'll do it myself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.252.185.219 ( talk) 04:59, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
Someone and without dropping a word here seems to have added Topless_women_on_the_beach.jpg to the article again. I'm gonna go ahead and delete it _again_ for the aforementioned reasons. Seriously, if you actually support the presence of Topless_women_on_the_beach.jpg in the Monokini entry, state your reasons here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Desnacked ( talk • contribs) 02:41, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
A monokini is just a bikini without a top which is what that is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.45.87.159 ( talk) 01:18, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
Is the bottom image really considered a monokini? I thought they were just the bottom portion of swimsuits. 74.89.58.36 ( talk) 23:39, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
Monokini is the type of women's swimwear. Bikini bottom doesn't magically become monokini if women doesn't wear top. That is simply ridiculous.
Please, can somebody replace Topless_woman_walking_on_Coral_Beach,_Jamaica.jpg with correct image of monokini.--
Stizerg (
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So i Googled monokini and it came up with a lot of those one piece looking things with cut outs. Thats what most americans think of as a monokini, a bikini that is attached at the front center and open on the back. The monokini is more conservative than a one piece, but without the stigma of being for older or fat people. It also wont come off as easily as a bikini would in waves. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.127.147.218 ( talk) 03:25, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
Since the "bi" in "bikini" has nothing to do with "two", despite the fact that a bikini is a two-piece bathing suit, I think the article ought to include a discussion of how "monokini" is a back-formation from "bikini". See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bikini_Atoll for the etymology of "bikini".
John Link ( talk) 05:20, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
The article now discusses this as an "erroneous assumption." I believe this may be an unfair and biased viewpoint. It is just as likely (probably more, though I can't support it), that it was more of an intentional play on words than an errror. -- 98.210.133.159 ( talk) 23:11, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
"Carol Doda [...] became the first topless dancer in the United States." Yes, there's a cited source for this, but that doesn't make it any less ridiculous on its face. Ever hear of a thing called "burlesque", for example?
-- 75.145.68.89 ( talk) 16:17, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
I propose to change the title of the article to "topless swimsuit" as "monokini" has now become a misnomer. Some manufacturers now call their one-piece swimsuits "monokinis", for whatever reason. That was not what the original monokini was, and "topless swimsuit" is a more general term to describe the topless (ie bare chested) phenomenon. Enthusiast ( talk) 23:36, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Then in May, clothing designer Rudi Gernich, who, incidentally, belonged to a circle of politically conscious gay men, launched the “monokini” bathing suit. In contrast to the bikini, which consisted of a top and a bottom, the monokini had no top.
— Bigger Than Life: The History of Gay Porn Cinema from Beefcake to Hardcore by Jeffrey Escoffier
The current version has very weak writing, and the organization of the article is still weak. There also are plenty material available to improve on the content.
I hope to do some of the stuff, as soon I can. Aditya( talk • contribs) 03:22, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Wikipedia articles about art and other creative topics (e.g., musicians, actors, books, etc.) have a tendency to become effusive. This is out of place in an encyclopedia. Aesthetic opinions are diverse and subjective—we might not all agree about who the world's greatest soprano is. However, it is appropriate to note how an artist or a work has been received by prominent experts and the general public. For instance, the article on Shakespeare should note that he is widely considered to be one of the greatest authors in the English language. Articles should provide an overview of the common interpretations of a creative work, preferably with citations to experts holding that interpretation. Verifiable public and scholarly critiques provide useful context for works of art.
No need to go effusive over a creative topic. Facts, not comments/commentary. Critique in an encyclopedia about how the work was received, not what it meant or how it reflected the creators mind. I believe there is a wee bit too much of all that in the article. WP:NEUTRALSOURCE is also preferable, for reasons i hope to be obvious. Aditya( talk • contribs) 04:19, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
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lol That picture of the American "monokini" is a man with breast implants. Look at how he lacks the female waist, female toroso utterly... And, look how skinny and long the legs are, like an Asian man. It's a man with breast implants (you can definitely tell it' implants, too), and that's why they are hiding their face in their hair. No offence intended to the transgendered... But, a picture of a woman in women's clothing would be more appropriate than potentially disturbing people sensitive to such sights. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.223.117.225 ( talk) 21:59, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
The article has been mreged with Bikini earlier, but with new information flooding in it was thought wise that Monkini shall have its own article again. Cheers. Aditya( talk • contribs) 12:28, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
The one problem is that the fashion world now has two different types of bathing suits considered a "monokini." See: [1] for the other type (basically a one piece that has been cut to display your abs but still covers your chest. 70.24.147.133 ( talk) 22:42, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
yes, it's found in the reference cited, but it seems rather unlikely to me, because the Soviets (and the other Eastern block countries) were rather tolerant with nudity on beaches. bogdan ( talk) 20:54, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
The image Topless_women_on_the_beach.jpg seems really out of place here, none of the women in the picture are wearing a monokini. Remove? 85.252.185.219 ( talk) 23:55, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Oh well, since no one did it, I'll do it myself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.252.185.219 ( talk) 04:59, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
Someone and without dropping a word here seems to have added Topless_women_on_the_beach.jpg to the article again. I'm gonna go ahead and delete it _again_ for the aforementioned reasons. Seriously, if you actually support the presence of Topless_women_on_the_beach.jpg in the Monokini entry, state your reasons here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Desnacked ( talk • contribs) 02:41, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
A monokini is just a bikini without a top which is what that is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.45.87.159 ( talk) 01:18, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
Is the bottom image really considered a monokini? I thought they were just the bottom portion of swimsuits. 74.89.58.36 ( talk) 23:39, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
Monokini is the type of women's swimwear. Bikini bottom doesn't magically become monokini if women doesn't wear top. That is simply ridiculous.
Please, can somebody replace Topless_woman_walking_on_Coral_Beach,_Jamaica.jpg with correct image of monokini.--
Stizerg (
talk) 11:25, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
So i Googled monokini and it came up with a lot of those one piece looking things with cut outs. Thats what most americans think of as a monokini, a bikini that is attached at the front center and open on the back. The monokini is more conservative than a one piece, but without the stigma of being for older or fat people. It also wont come off as easily as a bikini would in waves. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.127.147.218 ( talk) 03:25, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
Since the "bi" in "bikini" has nothing to do with "two", despite the fact that a bikini is a two-piece bathing suit, I think the article ought to include a discussion of how "monokini" is a back-formation from "bikini". See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bikini_Atoll for the etymology of "bikini".
John Link ( talk) 05:20, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
The article now discusses this as an "erroneous assumption." I believe this may be an unfair and biased viewpoint. It is just as likely (probably more, though I can't support it), that it was more of an intentional play on words than an errror. -- 98.210.133.159 ( talk) 23:11, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
"Carol Doda [...] became the first topless dancer in the United States." Yes, there's a cited source for this, but that doesn't make it any less ridiculous on its face. Ever hear of a thing called "burlesque", for example?
-- 75.145.68.89 ( talk) 16:17, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
I propose to change the title of the article to "topless swimsuit" as "monokini" has now become a misnomer. Some manufacturers now call their one-piece swimsuits "monokinis", for whatever reason. That was not what the original monokini was, and "topless swimsuit" is a more general term to describe the topless (ie bare chested) phenomenon. Enthusiast ( talk) 23:36, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Then in May, clothing designer Rudi Gernich, who, incidentally, belonged to a circle of politically conscious gay men, launched the “monokini” bathing suit. In contrast to the bikini, which consisted of a top and a bottom, the monokini had no top.
— Bigger Than Life: The History of Gay Porn Cinema from Beefcake to Hardcore by Jeffrey Escoffier
The current version has very weak writing, and the organization of the article is still weak. There also are plenty material available to improve on the content.
I hope to do some of the stuff, as soon I can. Aditya( talk • contribs) 03:22, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Wikipedia articles about art and other creative topics (e.g., musicians, actors, books, etc.) have a tendency to become effusive. This is out of place in an encyclopedia. Aesthetic opinions are diverse and subjective—we might not all agree about who the world's greatest soprano is. However, it is appropriate to note how an artist or a work has been received by prominent experts and the general public. For instance, the article on Shakespeare should note that he is widely considered to be one of the greatest authors in the English language. Articles should provide an overview of the common interpretations of a creative work, preferably with citations to experts holding that interpretation. Verifiable public and scholarly critiques provide useful context for works of art.
No need to go effusive over a creative topic. Facts, not comments/commentary. Critique in an encyclopedia about how the work was received, not what it meant or how it reflected the creators mind. I believe there is a wee bit too much of all that in the article. WP:NEUTRALSOURCE is also preferable, for reasons i hope to be obvious. Aditya( talk • contribs) 04:19, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
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