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The Finnish singer Taiska's 1970's hit "Mombasa" is not about the city. The name of the city is mentioned in the song and is the title of the song, but the song is more about a vacation romance on the beach. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.252.5.66 ( talk) 14:25, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
Is it supposed to say 'bumbasa' there at the beginning what the hell 128.113.156.51 13:08, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Mombasa appeared in some film (I can't recall the name) as a bizarre version of poker ("poker Mombasa"). The player who was supposed to know the special rules of "poker Mombasa" keeped tuning them to the purpose of winning every hand.
4lex 08:15 14 Jul 2003 (UTC)
--- Anyone know what the name means/where it comes from? I searched but couldn't find anything. The bellman 03:04, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
This page is innacurate. Mombasa is not a city. The only two cities in Kenya are Nairobi and Kisumu. How do you report innacuracies in Wikipages?
20 October 2005
I took the liberty of adding information on Mombasa's role in the Halo franchise to the article. The city has played a major role in at least three titles (Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo 3: ODST) and has been rendered in the series at least fourteen times:
I think it's safe to say that New Mombasa is the most well-known representation of the city to ever exist in popular culture. This fact, along with numerous references to the New Mombasa environment in both gaming outlets and mainstream Kenyan press, is enough to merit at least a brief mention in this article.
(I also resisted the impulse to add too many details to the section, opting instead to link to the Halo Wikia article for the city, which has much more information as well as pictures.) -- Jordan117 ( talk) 07:30, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
31-May-09: The Mombasa climate table (as of May 2009) makes no sense, with the coldest low temperatures occurring on the hottest days: low 16.5 (62F) when high 35.5 (96F). Many other towns in Kenya have the coldest lows on the colder days, heating the day by only +12 C degrees (+22 F). Compare to Mombasa-climate table in article " Climate of Kenya" with coldest days in July-August. I will check other sources this week to determine accurate data, and then cite 2 independent sources. - Wikid77 ( talk) 15:28, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
There is something decidedly odd about writing "In the late pre-colonial period (late 19th century)," when what is meant is pre-British colonialism. The city was colonized repeatedly from at least the 15th C by Portugal and various Arab suzerains, if not from a much earlier date. nwander ( talk) 17:14, 10 June 2009 (UTC) Nathaniel Wander Edinburgh
The Portuguese were not interested in colonising the area, just to exploit the trade in the area - this is better classed as trade domination or piracy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.49.96.67 ( talk) 14:49, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
The article states (without citation): "Mombasa was part of the state of Zanzibar until 12 December 1963 when it was ceded to be incorporated into the newly independent state of Kenya." Can someone add information about why it was ceded to Kenya, and who made that decision? JamesMLane t c 09:56, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
86.133.208.203 ( talk) 17:13, 4 August 2009 (UTC) First, any ceding going on seems to have occurred in the 1890s - 1894, to be precise, to the authorities responsible for 'British East Africa'.
Second, the paragraph about the Qatar and Bahrein tribes seems to have been written by someone with no knowledge of African or Middle East geography.
"The Al bin Ali (the tribe of Isa bin Tarif) were a politically important group that moved backwards and forwards between Qatar and Bahrain, they were the original dominant group of Zubara area [6]."
What has a group based in the Persian Gulf, thousands of miles away which seems to have moved only a few dozen miles back and fore, got to do with Mombasa?
Is this a mistake - a piece that should have been put into the entry about Zubara (easy to confuse with Zanzibar, obviously - except that they are thousands of miles apart from each other) or evidence of 'birther' groups trying to prop up their daft 'Obama was born in Kenya' guff?
Should a lawsuit be launched to force them to dispaly all documents related to their conspiracy?
Or should that nonsensical and irrelevant paragraph simply be deleted? 86.133.208.203 ( talk) 17:13, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
I would delete the paragraph. I have studied east African history for years and never heard that Mombassa were politically allied until 1963. My understanding has always been that Zanzibar and Mombassa were allied culturally and politically under the Omani rulers. In 1890, Zanzibar was made a British protectorate (rather than German as mainland Tanzania was), although it continued to maintain cultural ties with Mombassa which continue until now. As for Mombassa, it was gradually subsumed under the new British East Africa colony, which took on the name Kenya after World War I. Tony Waters —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.142.57.166 ( talk) 20:45, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
To avoid confusion, it might be best to remove that statement until it can be verified. I have also searched other online sources and was unable to verify the statement anywhere else. This isn't about "birther" or "denier", its about having Wiki be right and being a reliable place to find information. If you make it about politics, Wiki will lose. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.169.40.222 ( talk) 11:38, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
The tourist site [5] says Zanzibar leased Mombasa to Britain in 1895. Britain administered Mombasa as part of Kenya until independence in 1963.
Dinesen in her Out of Africa (1938) writes on page 225 (1992 edition) that Berkeley wanted to trade in "Lamu, Mombasa and Zanzibar." This might suggest she regarded Mombasa as not part of Zanzibar at that time, otherwise why list them separately? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.172.186.229 ( talk) 22:54, 10 September 2009 (UTC) My 1955 Collier's World Atlas clearly shows Mombasa as part of Kenya. I find nothing that would lead me to believe otherwise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.251.73.229 ( talk) 23:55, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Where on earth do these uncited population figures come from? The text states that the 1999 census figure for the "city" was 727,842. The Infobox gives 1999 populations of 707,400 for the "city" and "urban area". Neither appears to make any sense whatevever.
The 1999 census shows Mombasa District had a population of 665,018. Unfortunately, the Kenya National Bureau of Statistics website appears to be unavailable, but secondary sources confirming this figure are Statoids : Districts of Kenya and Geohive : Kenya : Administrative Units At that time, Mombasa was one of 7 districts in Coast Province, though this has subsequently been increased to 21 districts, as detailed at Ministry of State for Provincial Administration and Internal Security : Coast Province.
Skinsmoke ( talk) 08:43, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
I was looking the population given for the city, and it got me to thinking about how exactly the "city" is administered at the local government level? I went to the Mombasa District wiki page, and it seems there are four divisons, and that there isn't a "city" of Mombasa, per say, rather an urban area covered by four different local governments. Anyone want to explain this? If the population is given for the urbanized area, that needs to be made clear in the infobox by listing it as "urban" instead of "city". -- Criticalthinker ( talk) 09:26, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
What is missing from the city timeline? Please add relevant content. Thank you. -- M2545 ( talk) 11:12, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
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"The oldest stone mosque in Mombasa, Mnara, was built c. 1300. The Mandhry Mosque, built in 1570, has a minaret that contains a regionally specific ogee arch. This suggests that Swahili architecture was an indigenous African product and disproves assertions that non-African Muslims brought stone architecture to the Swahili Coast."
I would say non-African Muslims heavily influenced it and Swahili architecture was a continuation of Arab/South Asian architecture which had no equivalent inland. Lest you have any pre-conceived notions of what Mombasa was like in the 1500s:
"... a town called Mombaça. It is a very fair place, with lofty stone and mortar houses, well aligned in streets [after the fashion of Kilwa]. The wood is well-fitted with excellent joiner's work. It has its own king, himself a Moor. [The men are in colour either tawny, black or white and also] their women go very bravely attired with many fine garments of silk and gold in abundance." Barbosa, Duarte, The book of Duarte Barbosa; an account of the countries bordering on the Indian Ocean and their inhabitants, 1518. 2001:8003:70F5:2400:C54D:96D9:CD47:690F ( talk) 00:16, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
This behavior of placing These Europeans or other people who weren't born in a certain city and perhaps just visited is insulting. The list of known people should only be for those born and reared in Mombasa or any other city for that matter RickyBlair668 ( talk) 09:13, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
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The Finnish singer Taiska's 1970's hit "Mombasa" is not about the city. The name of the city is mentioned in the song and is the title of the song, but the song is more about a vacation romance on the beach. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.252.5.66 ( talk) 14:25, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
Is it supposed to say 'bumbasa' there at the beginning what the hell 128.113.156.51 13:08, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Mombasa appeared in some film (I can't recall the name) as a bizarre version of poker ("poker Mombasa"). The player who was supposed to know the special rules of "poker Mombasa" keeped tuning them to the purpose of winning every hand.
4lex 08:15 14 Jul 2003 (UTC)
--- Anyone know what the name means/where it comes from? I searched but couldn't find anything. The bellman 03:04, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
This page is innacurate. Mombasa is not a city. The only two cities in Kenya are Nairobi and Kisumu. How do you report innacuracies in Wikipages?
20 October 2005
I took the liberty of adding information on Mombasa's role in the Halo franchise to the article. The city has played a major role in at least three titles (Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo 3: ODST) and has been rendered in the series at least fourteen times:
I think it's safe to say that New Mombasa is the most well-known representation of the city to ever exist in popular culture. This fact, along with numerous references to the New Mombasa environment in both gaming outlets and mainstream Kenyan press, is enough to merit at least a brief mention in this article.
(I also resisted the impulse to add too many details to the section, opting instead to link to the Halo Wikia article for the city, which has much more information as well as pictures.) -- Jordan117 ( talk) 07:30, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
31-May-09: The Mombasa climate table (as of May 2009) makes no sense, with the coldest low temperatures occurring on the hottest days: low 16.5 (62F) when high 35.5 (96F). Many other towns in Kenya have the coldest lows on the colder days, heating the day by only +12 C degrees (+22 F). Compare to Mombasa-climate table in article " Climate of Kenya" with coldest days in July-August. I will check other sources this week to determine accurate data, and then cite 2 independent sources. - Wikid77 ( talk) 15:28, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
There is something decidedly odd about writing "In the late pre-colonial period (late 19th century)," when what is meant is pre-British colonialism. The city was colonized repeatedly from at least the 15th C by Portugal and various Arab suzerains, if not from a much earlier date. nwander ( talk) 17:14, 10 June 2009 (UTC) Nathaniel Wander Edinburgh
The Portuguese were not interested in colonising the area, just to exploit the trade in the area - this is better classed as trade domination or piracy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.49.96.67 ( talk) 14:49, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
The article states (without citation): "Mombasa was part of the state of Zanzibar until 12 December 1963 when it was ceded to be incorporated into the newly independent state of Kenya." Can someone add information about why it was ceded to Kenya, and who made that decision? JamesMLane t c 09:56, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
86.133.208.203 ( talk) 17:13, 4 August 2009 (UTC) First, any ceding going on seems to have occurred in the 1890s - 1894, to be precise, to the authorities responsible for 'British East Africa'.
Second, the paragraph about the Qatar and Bahrein tribes seems to have been written by someone with no knowledge of African or Middle East geography.
"The Al bin Ali (the tribe of Isa bin Tarif) were a politically important group that moved backwards and forwards between Qatar and Bahrain, they were the original dominant group of Zubara area [6]."
What has a group based in the Persian Gulf, thousands of miles away which seems to have moved only a few dozen miles back and fore, got to do with Mombasa?
Is this a mistake - a piece that should have been put into the entry about Zubara (easy to confuse with Zanzibar, obviously - except that they are thousands of miles apart from each other) or evidence of 'birther' groups trying to prop up their daft 'Obama was born in Kenya' guff?
Should a lawsuit be launched to force them to dispaly all documents related to their conspiracy?
Or should that nonsensical and irrelevant paragraph simply be deleted? 86.133.208.203 ( talk) 17:13, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
I would delete the paragraph. I have studied east African history for years and never heard that Mombassa were politically allied until 1963. My understanding has always been that Zanzibar and Mombassa were allied culturally and politically under the Omani rulers. In 1890, Zanzibar was made a British protectorate (rather than German as mainland Tanzania was), although it continued to maintain cultural ties with Mombassa which continue until now. As for Mombassa, it was gradually subsumed under the new British East Africa colony, which took on the name Kenya after World War I. Tony Waters —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.142.57.166 ( talk) 20:45, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
To avoid confusion, it might be best to remove that statement until it can be verified. I have also searched other online sources and was unable to verify the statement anywhere else. This isn't about "birther" or "denier", its about having Wiki be right and being a reliable place to find information. If you make it about politics, Wiki will lose. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.169.40.222 ( talk) 11:38, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
The tourist site [5] says Zanzibar leased Mombasa to Britain in 1895. Britain administered Mombasa as part of Kenya until independence in 1963.
Dinesen in her Out of Africa (1938) writes on page 225 (1992 edition) that Berkeley wanted to trade in "Lamu, Mombasa and Zanzibar." This might suggest she regarded Mombasa as not part of Zanzibar at that time, otherwise why list them separately? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.172.186.229 ( talk) 22:54, 10 September 2009 (UTC) My 1955 Collier's World Atlas clearly shows Mombasa as part of Kenya. I find nothing that would lead me to believe otherwise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.251.73.229 ( talk) 23:55, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Where on earth do these uncited population figures come from? The text states that the 1999 census figure for the "city" was 727,842. The Infobox gives 1999 populations of 707,400 for the "city" and "urban area". Neither appears to make any sense whatevever.
The 1999 census shows Mombasa District had a population of 665,018. Unfortunately, the Kenya National Bureau of Statistics website appears to be unavailable, but secondary sources confirming this figure are Statoids : Districts of Kenya and Geohive : Kenya : Administrative Units At that time, Mombasa was one of 7 districts in Coast Province, though this has subsequently been increased to 21 districts, as detailed at Ministry of State for Provincial Administration and Internal Security : Coast Province.
Skinsmoke ( talk) 08:43, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
I was looking the population given for the city, and it got me to thinking about how exactly the "city" is administered at the local government level? I went to the Mombasa District wiki page, and it seems there are four divisons, and that there isn't a "city" of Mombasa, per say, rather an urban area covered by four different local governments. Anyone want to explain this? If the population is given for the urbanized area, that needs to be made clear in the infobox by listing it as "urban" instead of "city". -- Criticalthinker ( talk) 09:26, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
What is missing from the city timeline? Please add relevant content. Thank you. -- M2545 ( talk) 11:12, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
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"The oldest stone mosque in Mombasa, Mnara, was built c. 1300. The Mandhry Mosque, built in 1570, has a minaret that contains a regionally specific ogee arch. This suggests that Swahili architecture was an indigenous African product and disproves assertions that non-African Muslims brought stone architecture to the Swahili Coast."
I would say non-African Muslims heavily influenced it and Swahili architecture was a continuation of Arab/South Asian architecture which had no equivalent inland. Lest you have any pre-conceived notions of what Mombasa was like in the 1500s:
"... a town called Mombaça. It is a very fair place, with lofty stone and mortar houses, well aligned in streets [after the fashion of Kilwa]. The wood is well-fitted with excellent joiner's work. It has its own king, himself a Moor. [The men are in colour either tawny, black or white and also] their women go very bravely attired with many fine garments of silk and gold in abundance." Barbosa, Duarte, The book of Duarte Barbosa; an account of the countries bordering on the Indian Ocean and their inhabitants, 1518. 2001:8003:70F5:2400:C54D:96D9:CD47:690F ( talk) 00:16, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
This behavior of placing These Europeans or other people who weren't born in a certain city and perhaps just visited is insulting. The list of known people should only be for those born and reared in Mombasa or any other city for that matter RickyBlair668 ( talk) 09:13, 10 October 2023 (UTC)