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Jesus is a plagiarised version of this Mithra, he should be mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.106.96.159 ( talk) 20:33, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
I think the historical jesus simply tried to re-enact mithra's legend towards his own goal , which of course was the creation or continuation of a proto-semitic religion.
Mithra was an iranian figure and the romans were at conflict with iranians , mithraism was only popular in the roman army and certainly had its critics among other romans , that's i believe how jesus , a jew , exploited this fact and copied mithra on many occasions during his life. Kermanii ( talk) 15:24, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
This article isn't the most scholarly looking thing I've ever seen, but he cites sources for quotes and some of his points stem from obviously true things. Definitely worth a read: http://www.sullivan-county.com/bush/travilocity1.htm The connection to Jesus is a conspiracy theory, much in the vein of the whole Jesus-Horus business. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.162.234.245 ( talk) 06:54, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
Dgharmon ( talk) 00:30, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
In the Roman Mithras, Mitras and his counter-part, Sol Invictus were held to be born on December 25th. Therefore, the way Romans believed it, the 25th was Mithras birthday, and that's what matters, as it still supports the, nevertheless undeniable, influence from Mithrism towards Christianity. 2601:882:100:D7B0:10AD:E063:4674:9FE1 ( talk) 14:26, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
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Presumably there is some connection to the Roman Mithras of the Mithraic Mysteries; this certainly merits mention if not discussion. Likewise, if there is no connection (unlikely) that deserves mention as well. However, I am not the one to do this since I know nothing about either deity except what's in the Wikipedia. jackbrown ( talk) 09:04, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Please consider removing the MISIDENTIFIED graphic at the head of the article. It is NOT "Mithra" but rather the Roman "god" Mithras if you take a look at the credits for the photo itself. A proper photo of a sculpture of Mithra/Mitra appears later in the article and you will see that he is a bearded elder in Persian garb and not a beardless youth in a Parthian cap as Mithras is traditionally portrayed. Thank you for your consideration... Emyth ( talk) 20:01, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Where can I get a True Type font to properly render Avestan? I just downloaded a bunch of Avestan script fonts from St. Catherine's, but they don't work here.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me | See what I have done) 04:58, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
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Get the Avestan Keyboard plugin on Android, if you can. Shadzad ( talk) 01:13, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
In both religion, Mithra is a god of truth and honesty Nittin Das ( talk) 12:22, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
While it is known that a spelling in cuneiform was Miça, the cuneiform here literally says 'Miθra'. For anyone unable to read Persian cuneiform, I felt you should know. Shadzad ( talk) 01:08, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
Mithraism, like Zoroastrianism, is a wide spread faith, historically. But it has a single origin. Shadzad ( talk) 01:14, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
In Sanskrit the word "mitra" or "mithra" means "friend". Why is this pot pointed out here? Sooku ( talk) 08:33, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
What does this mean? I can find no explanation, unless it is meaningful it should be removed. treesmill ( talk) 12:12, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
It doesn't appear very logical to me to list Mithra under Zoroastrianism and as Zoroastrian deity. If Mithra clearly not only predates Zoroastrianism but also seems to be part of the wider Indo-Iranian believe systems. As Mithra is also found in Sanskrit texts.
I want to use Britannica as source here.
"Mithraism, the worship of Mithra, the Iranian god of the sun, justice, contract, and war in pre-Zoroastrian Iran. " https://www.britannica.com/topic/Mithraism
Other well known Iranologists like Prof. Dr. Kreyebroek also point out the fact that Mithraism is a pre-Zoroastrian Iranian religion which was common among the people in West Iran and Mesopotamia. Merdoz ( talk) 13:24, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
That is not a random comparison it makes 100% sense. Because it is Illogical to introduce a prophet or deity in a way which makes it appear like this Prophet is specific to certain religion. I have big issues with the whole articles on itself. It reads amateurish, like it is written by individuals with shallow knowledge about the topic and who still to this day believe Iranian is synonym with Persian.
This is the main article about Mithra as the deity. Yet this article specifically talks about Mithra in the contexts of Zoroastrianism. It creates the notion, Mithra is a deity introduce by Zoroastrian religion. There is too little information about Mithra outside the Zoroastrian bracket. Which is how I came with the comparison of the main article about Abraham being in the context of Islam. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Merdoz ( talk • contribs) 01:54, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
"You can disagree with it as much as you want, however, " I did not expect anything else as a response. I am already used to this kind of responses by people, who to this day stll can not tell the difference between Iran - Persia and Iranic - Persian
"you can't add your own words into an article"
I literally used the wording of Britannica did you even bother to open the link? Merdoz ( talk) 02:02, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
"I did not expect anything else as a response. I am already used to this kind of responses by people, who to this day stll can not tell the difference between Iran - Persia and Iranic - Persian"
"I literally used the wording of Britannica did you even bother to open the link?"
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Jesus is a plagiarised version of this Mithra, he should be mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.106.96.159 ( talk) 20:33, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
I think the historical jesus simply tried to re-enact mithra's legend towards his own goal , which of course was the creation or continuation of a proto-semitic religion.
Mithra was an iranian figure and the romans were at conflict with iranians , mithraism was only popular in the roman army and certainly had its critics among other romans , that's i believe how jesus , a jew , exploited this fact and copied mithra on many occasions during his life. Kermanii ( talk) 15:24, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
This article isn't the most scholarly looking thing I've ever seen, but he cites sources for quotes and some of his points stem from obviously true things. Definitely worth a read: http://www.sullivan-county.com/bush/travilocity1.htm The connection to Jesus is a conspiracy theory, much in the vein of the whole Jesus-Horus business. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.162.234.245 ( talk) 06:54, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
Dgharmon ( talk) 00:30, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
In the Roman Mithras, Mitras and his counter-part, Sol Invictus were held to be born on December 25th. Therefore, the way Romans believed it, the 25th was Mithras birthday, and that's what matters, as it still supports the, nevertheless undeniable, influence from Mithrism towards Christianity. 2601:882:100:D7B0:10AD:E063:4674:9FE1 ( talk) 14:26, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
References
Presumably there is some connection to the Roman Mithras of the Mithraic Mysteries; this certainly merits mention if not discussion. Likewise, if there is no connection (unlikely) that deserves mention as well. However, I am not the one to do this since I know nothing about either deity except what's in the Wikipedia. jackbrown ( talk) 09:04, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Please consider removing the MISIDENTIFIED graphic at the head of the article. It is NOT "Mithra" but rather the Roman "god" Mithras if you take a look at the credits for the photo itself. A proper photo of a sculpture of Mithra/Mitra appears later in the article and you will see that he is a bearded elder in Persian garb and not a beardless youth in a Parthian cap as Mithras is traditionally portrayed. Thank you for your consideration... Emyth ( talk) 20:01, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Where can I get a True Type font to properly render Avestan? I just downloaded a bunch of Avestan script fonts from St. Catherine's, but they don't work here.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me | See what I have done) 04:58, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
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Get the Avestan Keyboard plugin on Android, if you can. Shadzad ( talk) 01:13, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
In both religion, Mithra is a god of truth and honesty Nittin Das ( talk) 12:22, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
While it is known that a spelling in cuneiform was Miça, the cuneiform here literally says 'Miθra'. For anyone unable to read Persian cuneiform, I felt you should know. Shadzad ( talk) 01:08, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
Mithraism, like Zoroastrianism, is a wide spread faith, historically. But it has a single origin. Shadzad ( talk) 01:14, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
In Sanskrit the word "mitra" or "mithra" means "friend". Why is this pot pointed out here? Sooku ( talk) 08:33, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
What does this mean? I can find no explanation, unless it is meaningful it should be removed. treesmill ( talk) 12:12, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
It doesn't appear very logical to me to list Mithra under Zoroastrianism and as Zoroastrian deity. If Mithra clearly not only predates Zoroastrianism but also seems to be part of the wider Indo-Iranian believe systems. As Mithra is also found in Sanskrit texts.
I want to use Britannica as source here.
"Mithraism, the worship of Mithra, the Iranian god of the sun, justice, contract, and war in pre-Zoroastrian Iran. " https://www.britannica.com/topic/Mithraism
Other well known Iranologists like Prof. Dr. Kreyebroek also point out the fact that Mithraism is a pre-Zoroastrian Iranian religion which was common among the people in West Iran and Mesopotamia. Merdoz ( talk) 13:24, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
That is not a random comparison it makes 100% sense. Because it is Illogical to introduce a prophet or deity in a way which makes it appear like this Prophet is specific to certain religion. I have big issues with the whole articles on itself. It reads amateurish, like it is written by individuals with shallow knowledge about the topic and who still to this day believe Iranian is synonym with Persian.
This is the main article about Mithra as the deity. Yet this article specifically talks about Mithra in the contexts of Zoroastrianism. It creates the notion, Mithra is a deity introduce by Zoroastrian religion. There is too little information about Mithra outside the Zoroastrian bracket. Which is how I came with the comparison of the main article about Abraham being in the context of Islam. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Merdoz ( talk • contribs) 01:54, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
"You can disagree with it as much as you want, however, " I did not expect anything else as a response. I am already used to this kind of responses by people, who to this day stll can not tell the difference between Iran - Persia and Iranic - Persian
"you can't add your own words into an article"
I literally used the wording of Britannica did you even bother to open the link? Merdoz ( talk) 02:02, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
"I did not expect anything else as a response. I am already used to this kind of responses by people, who to this day stll can not tell the difference between Iran - Persia and Iranic - Persian"
"I literally used the wording of Britannica did you even bother to open the link?"