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It would be nice to hear how he went from the Navy to the Army to the Marine Corps as the categories and citiation imply. Does someone know the details? Rlquall 20:28, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Also, if he joined the Navy in late February of 1918 and World War I ended in early November that same year, less than 9 months later, how could he have 19 months of World War I Navy service? And if that is a misprint for 9 months, what is it meant where it says "10 of his 19 months ..."? Hccrle ( talk) 16:31, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
The redirect to this article quite simply, blows. How about some real research done instead of one line? Fcyoss 19:47, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
I read the link discussing Mansfield's supposed opposition to the 1964 Civil Rights Act, and I don't think it says what the author thought. The paragraph reads:
"Because the Senate Judiciary Committee failed to act on proposed civil rights legislation just seven years earlier, Senate Majority Leader Mike Mansfield filed a procedural motion to prevent the Civil Rights Act of 1964 from being referred to the Committee. Despite opposition to the motion from Senators opposed to the Civil Rights Act, Mansfield successfully prevented the bill from being referred to the Committee."
To me, what appears to have happened was that Mansfield filed the motion to have the act discussed by the Senate as a whole rather than by the Judiciary Committee, which had killed a civil rights bill seven years prior. Were it the case that Mansfield himself had been opposed to the bill, I don't think the Senate website would have highlighted the "opposition to the motion from Senators opposed to the Civil Rights Act."
I am removing the portions of this article that describe Mansfield as having been opposed to the Civil Rights Act, but invite anyone to reinsert them if they can come up with better evidence to suggest that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Segregold ( talk • contribs) 17:29, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
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@ AlaskaGal: I see that you changed the picture in the infobox; I disagree regarding the source and have restored the original. The original is of Mansfield as a senator, for which he is most well-known; while not an official portrait per se, it was donated to and is presently owned by the Senate, and was displayed there [1]. If your objection stems from the filetype being a .jpg as opposed to a .png, we can make the original a .png. Iseult Δx parlez moi 16:49, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
@ AlaskaGal: as far as I know, the Library of Congress is circumspect on this, and I think we should be too. I'm curious about your assertion that this picture is in the public domain, considering that unambiguously PD works are pre-1928; whether it was registered is uncertain. I'm not sure what metadata you're referring to, as it was originally not a digital image, unless you're referring to the information that pops up upon click. In either case, it's certainly nowhere close to a definite-PD image.
Also, considering that I contacted the rights holders for permission, I'd presume that I know what licenses are necessary. But you do you. Iseult Δx parlez moi 22:34, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
photographs published with proper copyright notices 95 years ago or less up until 1963 may be protected if the copyright was properly renewed, while works published after 1963 and unpublished photographs in the collection may be protected even if they were not registered with the Copyright Office. Lunch falls into the former category; the 1969 picture doesn't necessarily disprove or prove fraud, as, as I understand it, pictorial works were included only in the Copyright Act of 1976, and so previous PD publications would not have had trouble there. Then, again, the lack of a visible notice does not preclude the presence of one, if fraud or accidency is to be suspected. There is no rush; the article has done well for the past ten years without this new picture, and I welcome resolution by Getty Images. If you would prefer the 1969 picture, though, I'm not opposed to that. Iseult Δx parlez moi 23:20, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
@ AlaskaGal: Great! That, though, seems like more of an acknowledgement that the image might be PD; it's not a grant of permission (that would be CC-BY-SA). If you do think it is, the appropriate procedure is found here; the body above suggests that this is for CC-BY-SA licenses. What I'm also willing to do is do a WP:BRD, keep the UMT image in reserve if a third party challenges the Getty image, upload everything, and then do a procedural nom for everything at FFD. Iseult Δx parlez moi 15:21, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
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It would be nice to hear how he went from the Navy to the Army to the Marine Corps as the categories and citiation imply. Does someone know the details? Rlquall 20:28, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Also, if he joined the Navy in late February of 1918 and World War I ended in early November that same year, less than 9 months later, how could he have 19 months of World War I Navy service? And if that is a misprint for 9 months, what is it meant where it says "10 of his 19 months ..."? Hccrle ( talk) 16:31, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
The redirect to this article quite simply, blows. How about some real research done instead of one line? Fcyoss 19:47, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
I read the link discussing Mansfield's supposed opposition to the 1964 Civil Rights Act, and I don't think it says what the author thought. The paragraph reads:
"Because the Senate Judiciary Committee failed to act on proposed civil rights legislation just seven years earlier, Senate Majority Leader Mike Mansfield filed a procedural motion to prevent the Civil Rights Act of 1964 from being referred to the Committee. Despite opposition to the motion from Senators opposed to the Civil Rights Act, Mansfield successfully prevented the bill from being referred to the Committee."
To me, what appears to have happened was that Mansfield filed the motion to have the act discussed by the Senate as a whole rather than by the Judiciary Committee, which had killed a civil rights bill seven years prior. Were it the case that Mansfield himself had been opposed to the bill, I don't think the Senate website would have highlighted the "opposition to the motion from Senators opposed to the Civil Rights Act."
I am removing the portions of this article that describe Mansfield as having been opposed to the Civil Rights Act, but invite anyone to reinsert them if they can come up with better evidence to suggest that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Segregold ( talk • contribs) 17:29, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
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@ AlaskaGal: I see that you changed the picture in the infobox; I disagree regarding the source and have restored the original. The original is of Mansfield as a senator, for which he is most well-known; while not an official portrait per se, it was donated to and is presently owned by the Senate, and was displayed there [1]. If your objection stems from the filetype being a .jpg as opposed to a .png, we can make the original a .png. Iseult Δx parlez moi 16:49, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
@ AlaskaGal: as far as I know, the Library of Congress is circumspect on this, and I think we should be too. I'm curious about your assertion that this picture is in the public domain, considering that unambiguously PD works are pre-1928; whether it was registered is uncertain. I'm not sure what metadata you're referring to, as it was originally not a digital image, unless you're referring to the information that pops up upon click. In either case, it's certainly nowhere close to a definite-PD image.
Also, considering that I contacted the rights holders for permission, I'd presume that I know what licenses are necessary. But you do you. Iseult Δx parlez moi 22:34, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
photographs published with proper copyright notices 95 years ago or less up until 1963 may be protected if the copyright was properly renewed, while works published after 1963 and unpublished photographs in the collection may be protected even if they were not registered with the Copyright Office. Lunch falls into the former category; the 1969 picture doesn't necessarily disprove or prove fraud, as, as I understand it, pictorial works were included only in the Copyright Act of 1976, and so previous PD publications would not have had trouble there. Then, again, the lack of a visible notice does not preclude the presence of one, if fraud or accidency is to be suspected. There is no rush; the article has done well for the past ten years without this new picture, and I welcome resolution by Getty Images. If you would prefer the 1969 picture, though, I'm not opposed to that. Iseult Δx parlez moi 23:20, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
@ AlaskaGal: Great! That, though, seems like more of an acknowledgement that the image might be PD; it's not a grant of permission (that would be CC-BY-SA). If you do think it is, the appropriate procedure is found here; the body above suggests that this is for CC-BY-SA licenses. What I'm also willing to do is do a WP:BRD, keep the UMT image in reserve if a third party challenges the Getty image, upload everything, and then do a procedural nom for everything at FFD. Iseult Δx parlez moi 15:21, 12 April 2023 (UTC)