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This is kind of experimental, but I think worth having an article on. I've seen this term well before now. Check "What links here" (for the article not the Talk) and you'll notice its use in one article on central Asian music (I enlivened a link to the term already in the text).-- A12n 21:03, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
I've added a couple of items. This is still a stub article and needs more attention. As it expands it gets into some tricky territory: how to describe the political uses of the term. This also gets beyond my expertise and interest. I first encountered the term in a compilation of articles about ethnicity in Africa published in the former Soviet Union in the 1984, which I have added to the references, and found it an interesting additional frame in which to discuss identity and ethnicity in West Africa.
What's needed:
Just noticed this link was removed with mention of "guidelines":
...What might those guidelines be? This link was actually intended as a reference concerning the mention of racialist groups using the term (the content on this page referred to said usage). -- A12n 23:59, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
User:SenseOnes deleted this line: There is also some use of the term online by groups professing racialist ideas. ... with this summary: "Removed uncited (and weird/irrelevant) line." The line was uncited, that is true, but it is not "weird," and its relevance should be a matter of discussion. When researching this article I came across a couple of webpages of apparent "white power" groups on which the term was used. I did not want to cite these pages, but it raised a question that I left hanging with the line just deleted. Is the term "metaethnicity" now part of the vocabulary of such groups? If so it is of interest to know that. I won't get into a revert thing on this issue, but at some point the topic should be looked into for possible return to the article with appropriate references. -- A12n ( talk) 23:43, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
I believe that Muslims would be an ideal example of meta-ethnicity, with a level of commonality that is wider than ethnicity and not necessarily corresponding to a particular nationality, transcending it at times. It would fit the current definition perfectly. I have added it as an example until further review. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.180.102.144 ( talk) 01:53, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I suggested the above mentioned example of meta-ethnicity. Well your concerns about the basis of religion fitting into as a criteria for meta-ethnicity are legible, the criteria I based the inclusion on depends upon 2 aspects- one, the need for the term came up to describe a large ethnic group that crosses national boundaries. the idea of racial and religious affiliation gets muddled together, for example Jewish individuals are considered to belong to a separate ethnicity though it is a religion, its one of the only few identities based upon religion that people are born into unlike Caucasians or African Americans, even if they dont have any religious affiliation, a certain degree of common cultural heritage is shared by them regardless of national boundaries. Muslims can also be considered to have a similar identity, Turkish Muslims identify themselves as cultural Muslims something unique in the muslim world but still considered an integral part of it, even from a cultural standpoint- many aspects like architecture(arabesque), cuisines, literature and social norms are shared between many different countries solely joined together by the meta-ethnic identity. secondly, the racial heritage and identities that exist between them is too wide to be classified as one single race from indo-aryans to Arabic to Persians etc., there is a great deal of linguistic and racial heritage that is entwined between them, derived and influenced by each other, meta-ethnicity seems like an apt description for that identity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.180.105.52 ( talk) 20:30, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
User:Grafen changed [[intermarriage]] to [[interracial marriage|intermarriage]] in the quote from A. Robert Lee about US demographics toward 2050. I think this is more narrow than the intended use of the term in the original. Unfortunately, there is not an article on "intermarriage" as a general term covering interracial marriage as well as other forms of "cultural exogamy." For the moment I'll leave as is but would like to find a better solution.-- A12n ( talk) 01:11, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
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This is kind of experimental, but I think worth having an article on. I've seen this term well before now. Check "What links here" (for the article not the Talk) and you'll notice its use in one article on central Asian music (I enlivened a link to the term already in the text).-- A12n 21:03, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
I've added a couple of items. This is still a stub article and needs more attention. As it expands it gets into some tricky territory: how to describe the political uses of the term. This also gets beyond my expertise and interest. I first encountered the term in a compilation of articles about ethnicity in Africa published in the former Soviet Union in the 1984, which I have added to the references, and found it an interesting additional frame in which to discuss identity and ethnicity in West Africa.
What's needed:
Just noticed this link was removed with mention of "guidelines":
...What might those guidelines be? This link was actually intended as a reference concerning the mention of racialist groups using the term (the content on this page referred to said usage). -- A12n 23:59, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
User:SenseOnes deleted this line: There is also some use of the term online by groups professing racialist ideas. ... with this summary: "Removed uncited (and weird/irrelevant) line." The line was uncited, that is true, but it is not "weird," and its relevance should be a matter of discussion. When researching this article I came across a couple of webpages of apparent "white power" groups on which the term was used. I did not want to cite these pages, but it raised a question that I left hanging with the line just deleted. Is the term "metaethnicity" now part of the vocabulary of such groups? If so it is of interest to know that. I won't get into a revert thing on this issue, but at some point the topic should be looked into for possible return to the article with appropriate references. -- A12n ( talk) 23:43, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
I believe that Muslims would be an ideal example of meta-ethnicity, with a level of commonality that is wider than ethnicity and not necessarily corresponding to a particular nationality, transcending it at times. It would fit the current definition perfectly. I have added it as an example until further review. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.180.102.144 ( talk) 01:53, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I suggested the above mentioned example of meta-ethnicity. Well your concerns about the basis of religion fitting into as a criteria for meta-ethnicity are legible, the criteria I based the inclusion on depends upon 2 aspects- one, the need for the term came up to describe a large ethnic group that crosses national boundaries. the idea of racial and religious affiliation gets muddled together, for example Jewish individuals are considered to belong to a separate ethnicity though it is a religion, its one of the only few identities based upon religion that people are born into unlike Caucasians or African Americans, even if they dont have any religious affiliation, a certain degree of common cultural heritage is shared by them regardless of national boundaries. Muslims can also be considered to have a similar identity, Turkish Muslims identify themselves as cultural Muslims something unique in the muslim world but still considered an integral part of it, even from a cultural standpoint- many aspects like architecture(arabesque), cuisines, literature and social norms are shared between many different countries solely joined together by the meta-ethnic identity. secondly, the racial heritage and identities that exist between them is too wide to be classified as one single race from indo-aryans to Arabic to Persians etc., there is a great deal of linguistic and racial heritage that is entwined between them, derived and influenced by each other, meta-ethnicity seems like an apt description for that identity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.180.105.52 ( talk) 20:30, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
User:Grafen changed [[intermarriage]] to [[interracial marriage|intermarriage]] in the quote from A. Robert Lee about US demographics toward 2050. I think this is more narrow than the intended use of the term in the original. Unfortunately, there is not an article on "intermarriage" as a general term covering interracial marriage as well as other forms of "cultural exogamy." For the moment I'll leave as is but would like to find a better solution.-- A12n ( talk) 01:11, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
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Your article needs to DEFINE it. You have some descriptive material but no actual definition.
If you can't come up with a definition, you should delete the article. --- Dagme ( talk) 14:45, 7 June 2021 (UTC)