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According to UNESCO statment Palestine is not a member state yet: “For its membership to take effect*, Palestine must sign and ratify UNESCO’s Constitution which is open for signature in the archives of the Government of the United Kingdom in London.” Aotearoa ( talk) 16:53, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
Can someone provide the following sources:
Also, here it's written that there are "3 Permanent Observers and 10 intergovernmental organizations with Permanent Observer Missions to UNESCO." - who are those 13 UNESCO observers?
This is posted also here. Japinderum ( talk) 08:12, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
I've added that section so it can be featured in ITN as a replacement of the initial article chosen which was taken out following a copyright concern. Please improve that section. Thank you. Tachfin ( talk) 09:12, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Recently an edit was made [1] adding the following text in the lead: "Palestine, however, has gained a full membership. [4]" It's right after "The associate members are non-independent states.", so I assume the "however" is there to say something like "Non-independent states can become associate members, however Palestine gained full membership". The problem is that the State of Palestine who apparently was approved for full membership gained this membership as independent state - if it weren't considered to be such by UNESCO it wouldn't be approved for full membership. It's not like UNESCO gave approval for a non-independent state to become UNESCO full member. Yes, some UNESCO members don't recognize the State of Palestine - but the same is the situation of PRChina, Cyprus, Israel and others of the UNESCO full members who aren't universally recognized.
If an additional remark about Palestine is needed (it has a whole section already devoted to) to distinguish it from the rest of the UNESCO full members (in a similar way to how the associate members are distinguished in the lead), including those that aren't universally recognized by everybody else - then this remark should focus on the actual difference of the State of Palestine - it's functioning as a government in exile - the occupation/control of the territory it claims by another state (Israel). Japinderum ( talk) 09:59, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Has anyone actually bothered to read it properly?? It says an organisation which admits the PLO as a member state, not the Fatah and Hamas democratically-elected governments of Gaza and the West Bank that compose the state of Palestine. Hamas is not part of the PLO, and Fatah is only affiliated. So if they're that bothered on semantics, let's say today Fatah cut off all links with the name PLO, then this law becomes redundant (probably already is). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.145.22.82 ( talk) 14:11, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
The USA constitution includes the Anglo-American Treaty of 1925. That treaty includes the text of the British Mandate which in turn includes the text of the San Remo Treaty. This means that no land west of the Jordan river can be ceeded to a foreign (Arab) entity. All the land is Jewish land. The USA cannot allow an Arab entity to be created west of the Jordan river. Clinton breached the constitution in 1993 with the Oslo Accords. Every President has complained about increased Jewish settlement when the constitution demands encouragement of Jewish settlement. Violation of the constitution is a very serious matter but nobody seems to care when OIL interests are at stake. The Arabs of the PA, PLO, Hamas et al all have one goal, the destruction of the Jewish state. As this is at odds with the UN charter, international law, geneva conventions, treatiess and the USA constitution there can be no justification what so ever for allowing terrorists in suits any legitimacy. Abbas was the instigator of the Munich massacre for which he is yet to be punished. And he is applauded at the UN! Disgusting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.30.8.241 ( talk) 13:50, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
Why have the USA not been thrown out of the organization, since they refused funding it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deathmare ( talk • contribs) 17:16, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
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The map shows that the U.S. has observer status after leaving UNESCO’s membership ranks. However, the article mentions nothing about the U.S. having observer status. In fact, it lists the countries/groups with observer status and the U.S. is not listed.
Is the map correct or incorrect? If it is incorrect, then it should be fixed or removed. Please advise.
Jasonagastrich ( talk) 08:19, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
The map on the website https://fr.unesco.org/countries/ shows Israel and USA as members of the organization, but not the Liechteistein. But it says 193 members, not 195. Is UNESCO website wrong and Wikipedia right? Or two other countries have left UNESCO and USA and Israel are they back in?
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According to UNESCO statment Palestine is not a member state yet: “For its membership to take effect*, Palestine must sign and ratify UNESCO’s Constitution which is open for signature in the archives of the Government of the United Kingdom in London.” Aotearoa ( talk) 16:53, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
Can someone provide the following sources:
Also, here it's written that there are "3 Permanent Observers and 10 intergovernmental organizations with Permanent Observer Missions to UNESCO." - who are those 13 UNESCO observers?
This is posted also here. Japinderum ( talk) 08:12, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
I've added that section so it can be featured in ITN as a replacement of the initial article chosen which was taken out following a copyright concern. Please improve that section. Thank you. Tachfin ( talk) 09:12, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Recently an edit was made [1] adding the following text in the lead: "Palestine, however, has gained a full membership. [4]" It's right after "The associate members are non-independent states.", so I assume the "however" is there to say something like "Non-independent states can become associate members, however Palestine gained full membership". The problem is that the State of Palestine who apparently was approved for full membership gained this membership as independent state - if it weren't considered to be such by UNESCO it wouldn't be approved for full membership. It's not like UNESCO gave approval for a non-independent state to become UNESCO full member. Yes, some UNESCO members don't recognize the State of Palestine - but the same is the situation of PRChina, Cyprus, Israel and others of the UNESCO full members who aren't universally recognized.
If an additional remark about Palestine is needed (it has a whole section already devoted to) to distinguish it from the rest of the UNESCO full members (in a similar way to how the associate members are distinguished in the lead), including those that aren't universally recognized by everybody else - then this remark should focus on the actual difference of the State of Palestine - it's functioning as a government in exile - the occupation/control of the territory it claims by another state (Israel). Japinderum ( talk) 09:59, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Has anyone actually bothered to read it properly?? It says an organisation which admits the PLO as a member state, not the Fatah and Hamas democratically-elected governments of Gaza and the West Bank that compose the state of Palestine. Hamas is not part of the PLO, and Fatah is only affiliated. So if they're that bothered on semantics, let's say today Fatah cut off all links with the name PLO, then this law becomes redundant (probably already is). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.145.22.82 ( talk) 14:11, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
The USA constitution includes the Anglo-American Treaty of 1925. That treaty includes the text of the British Mandate which in turn includes the text of the San Remo Treaty. This means that no land west of the Jordan river can be ceeded to a foreign (Arab) entity. All the land is Jewish land. The USA cannot allow an Arab entity to be created west of the Jordan river. Clinton breached the constitution in 1993 with the Oslo Accords. Every President has complained about increased Jewish settlement when the constitution demands encouragement of Jewish settlement. Violation of the constitution is a very serious matter but nobody seems to care when OIL interests are at stake. The Arabs of the PA, PLO, Hamas et al all have one goal, the destruction of the Jewish state. As this is at odds with the UN charter, international law, geneva conventions, treatiess and the USA constitution there can be no justification what so ever for allowing terrorists in suits any legitimacy. Abbas was the instigator of the Munich massacre for which he is yet to be punished. And he is applauded at the UN! Disgusting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.30.8.241 ( talk) 13:50, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
Why have the USA not been thrown out of the organization, since they refused funding it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deathmare ( talk • contribs) 17:16, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
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The map shows that the U.S. has observer status after leaving UNESCO’s membership ranks. However, the article mentions nothing about the U.S. having observer status. In fact, it lists the countries/groups with observer status and the U.S. is not listed.
Is the map correct or incorrect? If it is incorrect, then it should be fixed or removed. Please advise.
Jasonagastrich ( talk) 08:19, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
The map on the website https://fr.unesco.org/countries/ shows Israel and USA as members of the organization, but not the Liechteistein. But it says 193 members, not 195. Is UNESCO website wrong and Wikipedia right? Or two other countries have left UNESCO and USA and Israel are they back in?