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Because this was his name, the latin Corvinus name is a German nickname what English historians simply copied. Hungarian historians use the Matthias/Mátyás Hunyadi name. Corvinus can remain in the beginning of the lead, and Matthias Corvinus can get a redirect to Matthias Hunyadi in the searcher. I don't care how many search results have the Corvinus, it was never his official name, and mostly it was used in Germany after his death... MAybe Matthias have never heard that.-- Cumberstone ( talk) 16:30, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
You forget that it has a high chance that the king have never heard that "Corvinus" nick name. Why is it important how many search results does the Corvinus nickname has, when it is nothing more than a later German created nickname?-- Cumberstone ( talk) 16:57, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
User Borsoka claimed falsely that "wo editors explicitly opposed this changes on the Talk page." which was not true, because this discussion on this talk page was not about the lead of the article, but about the TITLE of the article. Why can't we write the official "Matthias I" name or his real family name: Matthias Hunyadi in the lead? Can you explain that with rational arguments?-- Cumberstone ( talk) 17:52, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
Take an English Google Books search and you can find tons of books which contain Matthias I or Matthias Hunyadi names too. So it is not a real excuse regarding to the lead section of the article. -- Cumberstone ( talk) 18:08, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
Is this discussion ticleabout the name of the article, or is it about including additional information regarding his name in the lead? North8000 ( talk) 19:00, 14 December 2019 (UTC) Originally this discussion was about the Title of the article, than User Borsoka arbitrarily (see: The Straw man fallacy) claimed in the note of the editorial history of the article that the topic was about the lead of the article. He still can't really explain why can't the real family name of the person (born as Matthias Hunyadi) fit/appear in the first line of the lead...-- Cumberstone ( talk) 19:19, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
However User Borsoka claimed falselly that the voting about the title (the name of the article) was about the lead of the article, and reverted my edit in the first line of the lead. It was a false claim and a false revert. And he could not explain why we cant mention in the first line the real name of that person too? Can't the "Matthias Hunyadi" fit in the first line of the lead? Yes it can.-- Cumberstone ( talk) 20:38, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
Sorry, but I can't found it.-- Cumberstone ( talk) 15:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
Again: There is no the real English form of his full name "Matthias Hunyadi" in the lead section.-- Cumberstone ( talk) 15:50, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
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Does the monastery described here have a name? If so, could you post it at: Pauline monastery? Thanks! -- evrik ( talk) 20:32, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
@ Viator slovenicus: we are not here to present all facts that we regard as important. As soon as you present a source verifying that the fact that Cillei and Garay were cousins is important in the article's context according to a single modern historian, I will not revert your edit. Borsoka ( talk) 10:29, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
Hi @ Borsoka!
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Matthias_Corvinus&oldid=prev&diff=1158120724
Could you tell me what wrong with this content sourced by historians regarding Matthias' court historians? I think it is relevant about him how wanted describe himself. OrionNimrod ( talk) 09:25, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
Although he is known by the name ‘Matthias Corvinus’, his infobox should be standardised to fall in line with the articles of other Hungarian monarchs, such as, John Zápolya and John Sigismund Zápolya. Thus, I am changing the infobox title to ‘Matthias I’.
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Because this was his name, the latin Corvinus name is a German nickname what English historians simply copied. Hungarian historians use the Matthias/Mátyás Hunyadi name. Corvinus can remain in the beginning of the lead, and Matthias Corvinus can get a redirect to Matthias Hunyadi in the searcher. I don't care how many search results have the Corvinus, it was never his official name, and mostly it was used in Germany after his death... MAybe Matthias have never heard that.-- Cumberstone ( talk) 16:30, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
You forget that it has a high chance that the king have never heard that "Corvinus" nick name. Why is it important how many search results does the Corvinus nickname has, when it is nothing more than a later German created nickname?-- Cumberstone ( talk) 16:57, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
User Borsoka claimed falsely that "wo editors explicitly opposed this changes on the Talk page." which was not true, because this discussion on this talk page was not about the lead of the article, but about the TITLE of the article. Why can't we write the official "Matthias I" name or his real family name: Matthias Hunyadi in the lead? Can you explain that with rational arguments?-- Cumberstone ( talk) 17:52, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
Take an English Google Books search and you can find tons of books which contain Matthias I or Matthias Hunyadi names too. So it is not a real excuse regarding to the lead section of the article. -- Cumberstone ( talk) 18:08, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
Is this discussion ticleabout the name of the article, or is it about including additional information regarding his name in the lead? North8000 ( talk) 19:00, 14 December 2019 (UTC) Originally this discussion was about the Title of the article, than User Borsoka arbitrarily (see: The Straw man fallacy) claimed in the note of the editorial history of the article that the topic was about the lead of the article. He still can't really explain why can't the real family name of the person (born as Matthias Hunyadi) fit/appear in the first line of the lead...-- Cumberstone ( talk) 19:19, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
However User Borsoka claimed falselly that the voting about the title (the name of the article) was about the lead of the article, and reverted my edit in the first line of the lead. It was a false claim and a false revert. And he could not explain why we cant mention in the first line the real name of that person too? Can't the "Matthias Hunyadi" fit in the first line of the lead? Yes it can.-- Cumberstone ( talk) 20:38, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
Sorry, but I can't found it.-- Cumberstone ( talk) 15:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
Again: There is no the real English form of his full name "Matthias Hunyadi" in the lead section.-- Cumberstone ( talk) 15:50, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Abune Mathias which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 23:18, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
Does the monastery described here have a name? If so, could you post it at: Pauline monastery? Thanks! -- evrik ( talk) 20:32, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
@ Viator slovenicus: we are not here to present all facts that we regard as important. As soon as you present a source verifying that the fact that Cillei and Garay were cousins is important in the article's context according to a single modern historian, I will not revert your edit. Borsoka ( talk) 10:29, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
Hi @ Borsoka!
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Matthias_Corvinus&oldid=prev&diff=1158120724
Could you tell me what wrong with this content sourced by historians regarding Matthias' court historians? I think it is relevant about him how wanted describe himself. OrionNimrod ( talk) 09:25, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
Although he is known by the name ‘Matthias Corvinus’, his infobox should be standardised to fall in line with the articles of other Hungarian monarchs, such as, John Zápolya and John Sigismund Zápolya. Thus, I am changing the infobox title to ‘Matthias I’.
EricusTheScribe (
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01:53, 14 August 2023 (UTC)