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I deleted the preceding phrase and I added the part about Tantramassage, I don't want to step into discussions about moral values and about the term "prostitution". I work with Tantrmassages and I am not a prostitute, but statements like this don't belong to an article about "massage" -Martina
I see that "massage therapy" is now forwarding to "bodywork". I believe a more appropriate forwarding would be to "massage" (or maybe from massage to massage therapy). I also noticed that "bodywork" and "massage therapy" as presented as equivalent, but ddddI belive there should be some differentiation. All massage therapy is bodywork, but not all bodywork is massage therapy (e.g. Breema). Perklund 03:03, Nov 5, 2004 (UTC)
There was an anonymous addition by 68.57.0.235 stating: "In most states, certain areas such as the genitals ... are draped at all times." Is that a habit or a legal requirement? And are those "states" the ones of the USA? − Woodstone 13:43, 2005 Apr 3 (UTC)
I am living in Australia and I am currently training as a massage therapist. I'm not sure about America, but in Australia, not draping the genital region is unethical and a form of malpractice that has legal implications. Hence, why draping the genitals is a habit, because of legal implications.
My response to the Australian is to say that your attitude is awfully prudish. In America attention to the genitals is considered an integral part of the massage.
I am a licensed massage therapist and I can vouch for the fact that "In America attention to the genitals is NOT considered an integral part of the massage." Where would anyone get this idea? Therapeutic massage and "erotic massage" (or anything else that harkens back to the notion of massage parlors as a euphemism for house of prostitution) have nothing in common. I take it as a personal insult, and an insult to all my colleagues who have also studied anatomy and physiology and spent hours and hours doing supervised clinical massage treatments in order to become licenses professional, when there is any mention of or association with anything sexual in the same breath with "massage." It's not a matter or morals, being prudish, or any such thing. It's just a matter or factual accuracy. We are allied health professionals. We are not sex therapists, prostitutes or escorts. Even hospitals are hiring massage therapists in recent years. This misinformation needs to be corrected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Boogiewoman ( talk • contribs)
Well, I'm pleased to see that, at least on principal, Boogiewoman doesn't inject "...matter or morals, being prudish, or any such thing" into her massage work, but she sounds pretty touchy to me when she claims that TM (therapeutic massage) has absolutely nothing in common with EM (erotic massage) and takes it as a personal insult whenever there is "...any mention of or association with anything sexual in the same breath with 'massage'". Maybe she needs to have her attitudes "massaged" by another health professional? On a more serious note, I think I heard on Fox News (I was a captive audience, in the workplace) that the American Medical Association (AMA) and/or insurance companies are claiming that massage is not scientifically "efficacious" (effective) at all; this CANNOT bode well at all for those of us who value relaxation and mind/body/spirit integration, so what's going on, is Fox turning its big guns against alt. medicine and massage now? -Unsigned
I am a massage therapist in Nevada, where draping is a MUST! We must be completely professional and nonsexual because prostitution is legal in certain situations in Nevada, and we cannot cross that line or imply that we do. We drape all of the body except the one part we are working on, and if anything sexual happens during the massage, we must stop immediately. It's a very defined line. State by state, the laws are very different in the United States, as are the licensing requirements. Some states/counties do not even require licensing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.93.81.238 ( talk) 02:21, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
It seems to me that this article should be split into an article on massage in general, with seperate articles for each of the "types of massage" and likewise for the "massage therapist organizations." Also, the main article should posibly be renamed to "massage therapy", and a differentiation between "massage" and "massage therapy" should be made. - Akromian 10:01, May 15, 2005 (UTC)
In response to the above I agree. There is one important aspect of "Massage Therapy" that is missing. "Musculoskeletal assessment" is a tool that massage therapists (as well as other health care professionals) use to assess injury, degree of injury and postural definceies (muscle imbalances) that occur through out the body. What good are all these techniques with a out guide line for applying them? General scenario; The assessment revelied the agonist is short and tight and the antagonist is long and tight causing abnormal wear on the structures involved such as articular surfaces, ligaments, nerves, blood vessels, facia ect... Now this is a guide line for appling diffrent techniques with the muscular tension relationship in mind. -Unsigned
Someone has created a new Wikipedia entry for "Massage Parlor" that needs A LOT of work... Please come help! It's awful! -Unsigned
The concise intro was replaced by the following rambling passage, which is not clear and contains a lot of info that is really not to the point. Please other watchers comment. − Woodstone 10:37, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
Massage is the practice of applying moving or stationary pressure, vibration or a tremulous movement of the hands or a device held in the hands, percussion, or a regular, rhythmic tapping using the hands or a device held in the hands) or regular, back and forth, almost non-existent compression using an ice cube) using the hands or devices held in the hand to the many different tissues of the body, especially the nerves where they draw near the surface of the body and the blood vessels. Massage does not work upon the bones, muscles, tendons, or ligaments of the musculoskeletal system, but rather through them, to get at nerves or blood vessels which, when acted upon can stimulate or inhibit physiological processes of interest. These structures and fascia can also be used as a floor upon which to compress blood vessels and nerves to elicit a therapeutic effect. From the earliest times in European history, circa the fourth century B.C.E., upon to the present massage as a tool of medicine has been applied only to localized parts of the body or limited regions of it to elicit a specific physiological effect. Whole body, or general, massage is a relatively new phenomenon, which was developed for use in the health spas of England during the late nineteenth century where its purpose was to provide the recipient a few moments of relaxation and pleasure before the real work of clinical massage was begun. Applications of massage have been developed over the past one hundred and fifty years to relieve discomfort and disease affecting every organ system of the body. So excellent research has been published, along with much unsubstantiated chaff, mere claims of clinicians vaguely depicted without a possibility of these techniques being resurrected and duplicated by clinicians today. Massage can prove an aid in treating disorders of the veins and arteries; the peripheral and autonomic nerves, the spinal cord and brain, the thyroid and adrenal glands; and the various organs of the gastrointestinal, genitourinary and cardiovascular systems. Massages almost always acts subtly to stimulate or inhibit biochemical processes of the body, or to stimulate or inhibit reflexes. In limited circumstances it can be used to elicit a mechanical effect so as to impede dysfunctional scar tissue formation within or upon a site of tissue injury. The body of knowledge concerning the application of massage to treat primary disorders of the musculoskeletal system is very small. Massage of aspects of the nervous system is often sufficient to induce sleep or alertness, to relieve anxiety or depressed mood, to relieve nausea and vomiting, to moderate or eliminate migraine or sinus headache, or to reduce muscle tension or motor spasticity of paralysis.
A clinical massage therapist needs to assess would be clients afflicted with a medical disorder with which they would like a massage therapists help in controlling their symptoms initially by obtaining a medical release from the client's physician so as to learn the medical conditions with which they are currently afflicted, a summary of the treatments now being given to these patients, and a summary of the patient's current medical condition, as all of this informaiton will help guide a clinical interview which must necessarily precede a clinical physical examination. The best way to obtain a quick turn around from the patient's physician is to fax a copy of the release to the patient's physician, then follow up a few hours later with a call specifically to the doctor's nurse, asking her help in getting a quick turn around for the release. Usually within a day the appropriate information will be faxed to you. Until you have the needed information, it is essential that massage work proceed gently, lightly and briefly so as to elicit no untoward reaction from a medical problem of which your client us unaware.
This article has little information on massage itself, but has a massive list of types of massage and another for "massage schools" which clutter it so we don't see its emptiness.
I think this is stupid, and I MOVED (not deleted) those lists to pages of their own. But this was unfortunately reverted by User: Woodstone, with an edit summary that implied all I did was a "massive delete". Does anyone really think these lists are relevant in the main massage article? In absence of an answer, I will do the move again. Jules.LT 10:37, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
How does a massage work? Why does it make me feel tingly? What is the scientific explanation for this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 165.247.108.108 ( talk • contribs) .
I notice that someone else has recently had a similar message to mine - I posted some information about the Scottish Massage Therapists Organisation and it was removed and I was told it was advertising. I don't understand why it's OK to have USA organisations, Australian organisations, but not Scottish ones! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rubyr ( talk • contribs) .
Anyways what I'm saying is massage should not be taken out because what if you have never heard the terms “Body work” or “massage therapy” not probable but possible. -Unsigned
I removed all but one entry under External links because they all were for clinics or associations of therapists or schools, and were more about advertising than anything else. -- Dalbury( Talk) 11:49, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
I wasnt' sure if I should replace this but wanted to bring it up. The 2nd paragraph states that a massage therapist assesses a client through range of motion...... however, I have learned that 'range of motion' is a phrase reserved for physical therapists, and that massage therapists can be sued for its use.
Reply:I am a licensed massage therapist in Iowa, and ROM is well within our legal perogative to use. 6:45PM, May 5 2006
I am surpised that the article does not discuss what the long term and short term health benefits of massages are. If it's a therapy, what is it curing? To my knowledge massage therapy has not been proven to have any long term health benefits. It just makes people feel nice, relaxed, and pampered for a short while. Am I correct? I think the article should point to some research resources. - Nanoflop
This issue is the next great hurdle that massage therapy as a profession needs to contend with. The popular view of massage as well as the predominant current practice limits massage to use as a tool for relaxation. Even articles such as the one under discussion here talk about the therapeutic benefits of massage in vague terms.
Massage therapy is indicated in most cases of soft tissue dysfunction. It's main therapeutic benefit is in lengthening muscles, resetting muscle resting length, treating scar tissue from injury or surgery to create a more functional scar, free restrictions between layers of myofascia, and generally return the myofascial and skeletal network to a state of balance and optimal function.
Because I'm unaware of adequate research, I present a case study. I once had a client who presented with severe pain in her gluteal region and thighs. She attributed the pain to a new personal training program she had recently begun. Her history revealed an accident 15 years ago that *severely* traumatized her abdomen and lower body. She used massage as part of her rehabilitative process, but it wasn't comprehensive, as she still had scar tissue and myofascial restrictions from her rib cage down.
When I first saw her, she walked slowly with a noticeable limp. After two sessions of almost exclusive myofascial work, she was walking normally and could resume her exercise program. At a later date, she returned, barely able to turn over in bed. We focused on her abdomen using myofascial release for the entire session, and by the end of it, she could turnover with ease.
My explanation of the theory behind these results? Anytime tissue is traumatized and goes through a healing process, scar tissue is laid down to repair the injury. Her old injuries were so comprehensive that scar tissue was laid down over her entire lower body, restricting not only her movement but also the growth and development of her muscles. She didn't experience any major problems until she began her strength training program, at which point her muscle growth ran into the wall of scar tissue encasing each bundle of contractile tissue. The downward spiral of pain and spasm ensued, restricting movement, blood/lymph flow, and impinging nerves in the region.
A blend of connective tissue, deep tissue, and Swedish techniques was successful in releasing these restrictions to create more functional scar tissue, decrease pain, increase range of motion, enable normal muscle growth, increase circulation, and normalize nerve function. Most importantly, she was able to return to a normally functioning life.
It is difficult to make a general statement about what tissues and structures massage therapy as a whole treats. The only true answer is, "It depends." It depends on what structures are dysfunctional in the particular client as well as what structures are best targeted by the modalities that any given practitioner has at hand. It depends on the working model of the body kept by the practitioner in his mind, on his technical knowledge, and on his intent.
So, to say that massage therapy reduces restrictions in soft tissue, relaxes muscles, and increases circulation is a true statement, but it completely glosses over the deeper implications of massage as a valuable field in complementary health. It truly is the tip of the iceberg.-- Ryokan 18:12, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
But the performance could improve without massage and through the natural healing process. It seems implossible to find a reliable control for such an experiment.
If massage therapy theories are based off physiology theories and laws, and, if massage therapy branched out of physiotherapy then shouldn't we be able to find research through their keywords? And I disagree with the above statement that it is impossible, massage therapist researchers have to start being involved in the research world. Iplantree 04:45, 15 August 2007 (UTC) I also would like to mention that injuries and dysfunction typically result in chronic and deteriorating conditions if left untreated. For example, poor posture. Chronic, contractures, soft tissue imbalances, and fascial adhesions and so on. These don't all go away in one day. This takes work, determination, and manipulation in some manner. If a natural healing process was used exclusively, this posture wouldn't exist and persist once that individual's causative factor had been removed. The massage therapists role in treating the client's presenting condition is to intentionally stimulate the body's physiological responses and reflexes to the client's advantage. Iplantree 05:30, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
I am an engineer and bodyworker. My engineer and science friends have progressed their respective wiki pages very well, because they are used to technical writing. Massage Therapists who practice their art well may still have trouble explaining the technical aspects and some do not use computers at all. I added a section, Barefoot, and may add to the massage section later when I learn some rules here.
Coming from rocket science, I am quite a skeptic, but have been convinced that all therapies that I have tried under qualified therapists can do something good. If it does some good, then why not check it out? There are many tried and documented benefits of massage, some of which can be found on my site svacina.com So let's keep it going and soon we'll have a good compendium! user= psnack
Massage, in my opinion refers to Swedish Massage, the soft flowing, relaxation variety. Soft Tissue Therapy (STT) involves assessment, treatment, and re-assessment. At present only a handful of therapists care to make the distinction. The "Massage Therapists" are happy to ride on the coat-tails of ST therapists who are making in-roads with the medical fraternity, but, alas, are often unable to produce the same results. This then disillusions the medical fraternity until they again come across a ST therapist who knows what they are doing.
The skillful, educated soft tissue therapist has a system for assessing, treating, and re-assessing every client they see; seeking to treat the tissues that lie beneath the skin. The massage therapist's "intent" goes no deeper than the skin's surface.
For the record, no therapist "cures" anything, we simply facilitate / mobilise the body's own resources. Doctors "fix" things by either poisoning (drugs) or carving it up (surgery).
As for "proof" [www.softtissuetherapy.com.au a reference section] that lists about 1,000 articles on "massage" (as it is still known, for now) . . . I had this amazing resource listed on "the wik" in the soft tissue therapy section until Dan removed it because of "spammy external link, no useful content I can see", I think it was. And no, it is not my website ( Euripides 23:38, 20 April 2006 (UTC))
I would like to propose that the current definition of "massage" as it is stated, should be changed. If it is, as it remains, we should include in the "massage" section, physiotherapy, osteopathy, chiropractic, even possibly nursing, among others. What I propose is that all the so-called massage techniques become "bodywork" - "massage" is a type of bodywork, as is physiotherapy, as is shiatsu, as is soft tissue therapy etc., etc., as such, it should be listed among the types of bodywork, rather than being a specific category in itself. The term "massage" is pretty much defunct now, it seems to include ANY technique that involves touching a person, and that they not be a physio, osteo, or chiro. I will post this propsal about the various bodywork discussions for some feedback. I think that Wiki is a great starting point to delineate and structure the types of bodywork that exist around the world. ( Euripides 03:03, 1 May 2006 (UTC))
Surprise! No scientific evidence that massage is pseudo-practice, no skeptics’ dictionary. The page starts with: Where massage is used for its physical and psychological benefits, it may be termed "therapeutic massage therapy". There is no any may be, therapeutic massage is reality! However right after previous sentence of this article reader can find:
Erotic massage and prostitution has noting to do with therapeutic massage. If some people using word massage to cover up prostitution, nobody can blame therapeutic massage for that. Some prostitutes may use name exotic dancer to cover up, however the real dancers can not be called prostitutes and sex workers. Approximately 5 years ago in Chicago two prostitutes used massage therapy to cover up prostitution, but fail to name the school they graduate from. Anyway Police contacted all massage therapy schools.
I don’t remember name of the movie I recently watch, but I remember episode when very old man in the hospital asking young nurse to hold his penis. So base on this, probably realistic situation, everybody should make conclusion that in the hospitals certain sexual situations may happen between patients and nurses also possibly doctors. Common, how many times we saw love relations in medical offices in the movies?
Well, in our school of massage it is not matter of body may be "draped", it is must be draped. All textbooks contain explanation of how to do proper draping. It is not understandable to me why "may be" is used. And another termin "unclothed" , in hospitals patients wear only gowns which is very unreliable dressing. So what is it- positive sign or warning about possible dangerous sexual advances? What is this place finally: is it encyclopedia or police report?
Conclusion: This is insult for me and many other professional massage therapists. I would like to point everybody attention to MASSAGE THERAPISTS which is the legal name recognized by all authorities. If we have Massage therapists it means somewhere must be Therapeutic massage. Yet, in “Wikipedia” therapeutic massage page is not available. Page about Swedish massage (basic knowledge of every professional massage therapist) is the same as just a Massage page. Who prepared this page? I hope it is not discrediting campaign run by government funded agency! If this is not a campaign, than what? I was not able to find any such remarks on page “Medicine”. When we talk about hospitals do we always have to mention that this is a dengerous palace, because surgeons can replace knee joint in the healthy leg? Finally I want to propose new page as Professional Therapeutic massage with possible link to page Massage. 06.10.06 Massage instructor: ogkmv@comcast.net
Why is massage pleasurable? Why is it even more pleasurable shortly after one has had an orgasm? My pet theory is that there is some kind of "magic powder" that accumulates in muscles, and deeply massaging the tissue dislodges the powder, after which it flows through the blood and reaches the brain. Orgasms release huge amounts of this powder, but some of it gets trapped in muscle tissue, and thus a massage shortly afterward dislodges this remnant. Totally unscientific and silly, I know, but what is really going on here? Inquiring minds want to know. I would also like to know why scalp massage is insanely pleasurable when done right. Thank you. Btw, the magic powder could be endorphins, but I got a C in cell bio. =(
If Wikipedia keeps this and removed page I started approximately a month ago about Therapeutic massage it means that Wikipedia running program to discredit Therapeutic massage. However this so called "encyclopedia" Is discredited in my eyes. LaCrosse 06.29.06
There definitely needs to be a dicotomy between a simple definition of massage and the practices of therapeutic massage and bodywork. Bekados 04:40, 13 June 2006 (UTC)FL massage therapist 6.12.06
What's with the picture of those massage balls? Anyone else think they are irrelevant, particularly with regard to massage therapy? I'm sure we can come up with a more suitable picture than that! Sydney naturopath 12:29, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
I considered moving AMTA from the "United States" to the "International" sub-section of Professional Organizations, and changing the text to read: *The [[American Massage Therapy Association]] ([[AMTA]]) is a non-profit professional organization that represents over 55,000 massage therapists in 27 countries, and in the United States is a recognized 501 c (6) non-profit organization.
I hesitate because the first "A" in AMTA is "American". I'd like to get feedback from other body workers. Also, I was surprised ABMP was listed under International, as I'd never read anything about them being international. I've searched their site and haven't found anything about their international presence, yet. — Daelin 20:25, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
The word "nuat" ends in the Thai letter ด. This letter is pronounced as "d" at the beginning of a word, but is always pronounced as "t" at the end of a word (or syllable). Wikipedia follows the Royal Thai General System of Transcription (RTGS). In this system, a final ด is transcribed as "t". Definitely the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA) always follows sound, not spelling, so should have /t/. Finally, wikipedia has a policy of only one initial capital in article titles (except proper names). Traditional massage is just an ordinary Thai phrase. So the principal article is Nuat phaen boran. A redirect is present from Nuat Phaen Boran. − Woodstone 19:28, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
I found this page because I wanted to find out about the practice of Massaging the Numbers. I know the dictionary definition, but the dictionary does not make it clear wether "Massaging the Numbers" refers to a particular method of misrepresentation, or merely refers in general to any numerical misrepresentation that is not actually a lie.
If Massaging the Numbers does not pertain to a particular method of misrepresentation, then this should be stated in Wiktionary, and if it does pertain to a specific method, then that method should be described in Wikipedia and a disambiguation page for "Massage" should be created (or a link within the "Massage" article saying see also "Massage the Numbers" or something like that.)-- VegKilla 22:52, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Is Eselan massage in some parts of the world not more known as Californain massage? Should we mention it?-- Rcsmit 14:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Please divide up therapeutic massage and the general term massage. Us professionals already spend plenty of energy defining our professional scope. The general term can mean anything from pure entertainment to erotic massage to giving a backrub and tantra and we don't want to be linked to this. I am sure the American Massage Association has a nice definition of therapeutic massage. I suggest that massage be divided into categories, depending on what massage PROVIDES or what it aims at. Thank you! Christian Herold, Zurich Switzerland xtian [at] swissonline.ch
First, it claims that massage has certain medical benefits without sourcing them, and there are several positive statements about massage while there are no criticisms whatsoever. Hell, some of the claims have been proven false, such as that it increases circulation in a beneficial way (there have been doppler ultrasound studies on this) or that it speeds healing. Hey, if you're going to make a bunch of unsourced medical claims, why not throw the long-standing myth about massage ridding your body of lactic acid in there as well?-- 207.118.44.110 03:08, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Hello. I edited the lomilomi section to be consistent with documented history and the lomilomi page. I especially felt compelled to take out the sentence that lomilomi was "demonstrated" in the movie, "Meet the Fockers." Barbara Streisand purported to give Robert DeNiro a lomilomi, but it was not an accurate depiction. Makana Chai 08:20, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
I think this section should go because it's not based on scientific data and also the comparison between tui na and modern medicine doesn't really hold. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.87.98.224 ( talk) 22:24, August 27, 2007 (UTC)
Please help me add these to Wikipeda they might fall into several catergories, it is hard to catergorize some of them because of the heavy advertisment effect on new practices, I am trying to get their core philosophies/techniques into writing, strict massage, energy therapies, movement therapies etc. They are coming from Somatic disciplines. Bronayur 01:39, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Why are there not more citations to hard research? A 2-minute search led me to this compendium of research articles Makana Chai 00:33, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 16:28, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
As the heading for this section is "beneficial effects" and not "claimed beneficial effects" or "perceived beneficial effects" or "Uses" it seems logical that any claimed beneficial effect that is not supported by evidence should be removed from this section.
NCBI cancer study was referenced multiple times. I amended the first reference to include a note on the studies lack of controls and removed subsequent references that claim massage is a cure for anxiety and depression. Regression to the mean and placebo effects could easily account for the effects found in this study so a claim that massage reduces anxiety and depression with no caution is unsatisfactory. Also the article reads like anxiety and depression reducing effects were supported in a sample with no comorbid conditions. It completely failed to mention that the sample was of cancer patients when the study was used to support these claims. This study has been referenced many times and it is simply insufficient to support many of the claims. As such, a fair amount of text has been removed.
The NCCAM reference used to support the claim that massage therapy increases general well being. The NCCAM source, however, deliberately avoided making claims that massage therapy actually does work eg. "How massage therapy might work" so this claim has been removed. Subsequent NCCAM references in which a claimed effect of massage has been presented as a true effect, using this source as evidence have been removed.
Touch research institute claims. I removed those studies in which it is completely unclear what evidence is being referenced. A left a few references in which the original study was described. However, I would like the reference changed to the original study so that I and others may review the evidence to check that the claims are, in fact, valid.
Sunflower therapy. If you read the original article, you'll find that the researchers don't actually believe that massage therapy should be implemented to improve self esteem or that this effect can be reliably indicated "At present, it is unclear if improvements in self-esteem by the dyslexic children were related to the treatment received, or more general attention factors associated with participation in a University research programme." so I have removed this reference.
Policy statements, especially those that are from organisations such as the University of Michigan Integrative Medicine, cannot be used to support the efficacy of any treatment. Research evidence is neeeded. Claims of efficacy based on policy statements without supporting evidence have been removed. JamesStewart7 ( talk) 07:31, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
I have placed this tag for numerous reasons:
I could go on but I think you get the point. JamesStewart7 ( talk) 08:19, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
I know the source for this clearly states that "anatripsis" and "frictio" are both Greek terms for massage, but this is clearly an error on the part of the author. "anatripsis" finds its root in the verb tribein,"rub/wear (away)/whittle/grate/annoy, etc." while frictio is traceable to the Latin fricare, "rub/chafe." As a teacher of Latin and Greek, (but not a world expert by any means,) this is an obvious mistake. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.244.98.124 ( talk) 23:51, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
I tagged it as citation needed but honestly I think it should be removed if someone can't elaborate. As it is, it's totally uninformative - it could say "blibble blabble bloo" and I'd understand just as much about this supposed technique as I do now. -- Dbutler1986 ( talk) 02:47, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
I noticed a reference to Pressure Point, which is typically Reflexology. The only thing that these modalities have in common with Trigger Point Therapy is the word "point." I hope that someone will point that out. I previously wrote the Barefoot section, only to have it promptly removed, so I have been hesitant to spend my time on wiki. Now maybe increased popularity due to Dara Torres, 40-yr old olympic swimmer who gets barefoot, has prompted a replacement? Psnack ( talk) 04:30, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
This sounds woo-woo to me. Does anyone have a citation to a reputable source for this? I took it out again. I checked Robert Calvert's History of Massage and no mention of this is made. If you can cite a reputable source then it should be in the article. Makana Chai ( talk) 19:45, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your research. Now all we have to do is watch this like hawks so it doesn't get put back. Is there any kind of bot that could do that for us? Makana Chai ( talk) 18:40, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
What disadvantages are there to massage? The article mentions only benefits, but lists several contraindicators. Wouldn't the existence of a contraindicator imply that there can be damage of some kind done by massage? -- Stvfetterly ( talk) 18:39, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
The external link to quackwatch fits as a link to link to under WP:ELMAYBE point 4, as a knowledgeable contributor. Many claims are made for massage that are ill supported, and as a member of the complimentary and alternative medicine family there are aspects that make it a good choice for the pseudoscience label. WLU (t) (c) (rules - simple rules) 00:23, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
This article has no mention of " full release" nor is there information of this on wikipedia. Are you ready for IPv6? ( talk) 03:58, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
I suggest that the licensing section needs to be reformatted slightly to separate out different areas of the world (subheadings?). Presently paragraph 2 has America & Canada together. If we're going to include other areas of the world, trying to combine content like this will become unwieldy.
I don't check my talk page.
-- David McQuillan ( talk) 03:07, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
a marsage is to confort someone x —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.150.39.142 ( talk) 01:05, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Massage/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
As noted above, there are vast amounts of information in this article, and all of it impossible to use. The article needs to be rewritten, most likely split into several articles. There are sections with only a single sentence - these could easily be combined, as could the section on massage chairs/tables, and {{main}} templates added. Some images could do with being redone as well, as they often seem to add little to the article. - mattbuck ( Talk) 22:15, 2 April 2008 (UTC) |
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It is fine to have a section on this, but it must refer to a spectrum of mechanical aids and it must be appropriately sourced. As it was it referred to one device and it appears it was created simply to support another page for that device which is currently being considered for deletion. See Robert Calvert's History of Massage which has a chapter on devices. Makana Chai ( talk) 18:05, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Bio-mechanical stimulation (BMS) is mechanically aided massage Added this type of massage as this is well established in the German speaking world and has been available for over 50+ years, studies have proven promising results in many fields of use e.g. rehabilitation [1], medicine [2] even a independent study has been carried out to ascertain the efficacy of the therapy. [3]
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Hi all, Just a quick note as people with an interest in massage seem to be watching this talk page and there is some good discussion. I have done some work on the massage categories. I have added a new category "massage therapy" and recategorised the articles regarding different modalities under this category. The main massage article (this one) has both categories. At the same time I removed a few articles from the category that were either schools that offered massage among many other courses (and they were only categorised for massage, not everything else) and also a range of spas and places that offered massage. All of the general and sexual/erotic massage is still categorised under massage, and the clinical/therapeutic stuff is now under the subcategory massage therapy. BTW, I agree with those that want to see a clearer demarcation in the article names for general massage, erotic "massage", and therapeutic massage. cheers, Megan Megan Hieatt ( talk) 11:11, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
This article seems to only reflect professional massage, and almost entirely neglect it as any other practice. There is no mention at all of sexual massage. A little more holistic approach might help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.36.122.160 ( talk) 20:54, 11 September 2010 (UTC) I agree - this is a big omission.
I can't find anything here about how massage can result in temproary sickness, or times when a massage is a bad idea. More balance is needed I think 86.186.84.15 ( talk) 16:46, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
Wondering about a reversion of the line I added. Massage therapists who read Wikipedia may wish to learn how to post their services without charge on the web; may have great difficulty finding clients. SkillSlate is a way for them to do this without cost. It isn't spam; rather, it's a way for people to get work. Please reinstate the addition or provide better justification; in addition, Craigslist should be mentioned as well.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 18:16, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
This edit added the term "body/mind" which is a bit vague. Should it be "body and mind" or " bodymind"? Mitch Ames ( talk) 12:55, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
I propose renaming this page 'massage therapy', since it seems to deal almost entirely with regulated professional and medical massage, and having 'massage' as a disambiguating page for that, infant massage, erotic massage etc. Right now the situation seems odd, in that massage therapy seems to be privileged as 'actual' massage, while the other types are shunted to the side. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.222.82.45 ( talk) 03:53, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi - I noticed your tag for references, but don't know how to add them, so hope you might help. http://www.massagetherapy.com/articles/index.php/article_id/539/The-Homestretch Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.189.106.4 ( talk) 20:45, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
Under the section entitled "Thai massage" the final two mini-paragraphs make some fairly robust claims as to the health benefits of Thai massage, as well as some more nebulous statements, such as "... the body undergoes a transformation as the healing begins." Two references are provided, but they appear to link to sites that themselves are not primary, nor do they provide a list of their references. I'd like to hear thoughts on altering or removing these sentences until proper citations can be found. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ValborgSvnesson ( talk • contribs) 21:52, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
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A large amount of material was recently cut from the Massage article and pasted into Massage parlor. There's been some discussion about this at Talk:Massage parlor. The material cut covered licensing for massage therapists, clinical effects of message, and material covering the places where massage therapists work. Massage parlor previously covered establishments offering sexual services in the guise of a "massage". Is the term "massage parlor" widely understood to apply to an LMTs place of business? Do any LMT's call their businesses "massage parlors"? Is it appropriate to have a separate article titled "massage parlor" covering an LMTs place of business? I believe the answer to all 3 questions is "no", and am restoring the cut content. Plantdrew ( talk) 02:49, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
Various reliable sources clearly distinguish the use of the term massage parlour as a s a euphemism for a brothel, an establishment that is actually a front for prostitution or sexual services. Here is one reliable source:
Typical terms for the place of business for legitimate massage include "massage studio", "massage clinic", "day spa", or "spa".
TheProfessor ( talk) 13:47, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
This article has had a refimprove template since 2011, and contains a lot of entirely unsourced material. I'm removing the "types" of massage from the article which are entirely unsourced and putting them below. They may be hoaxes, promotional or too obscure to be included. If good sources can be found they should be supplied so the entry can be moved back to the article. Alexbrn talk| contribs| COI 10:27, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Lymphatic breast massage is a type of breast massage designed to stimulate lymphatic movement in the breast tissue.
Aqua Massage is a dry-water hydrotherapy massage that involves the client laying down on a mattress, water jets pummel on the client, while keeping them dry.
Couples massage is a service offered by some spas and massage parlors where two people (usually, but not always, couples), are massaged side-by-side on separate tables and by separate providers. It adds a social element to massage.
Deep tissue massage is designed to relieve severe tension in the muscle and the connective tissue or fascia. This type of massage focuses on the muscles located below the surface of the top muscles. Deep tissue massage is often recommended for individuals who experience consistent pain, are involved in heavy physical activity (such as athletes), and patients who have sustained a non-recent physical injury. It is not uncommon for receivers of deep tissue massage to have their pain replaced with a new muscle ache for a day or two.
The term “deep tissue” is often misused to identify a massage that is performed with sustained deep pressure. Deep tissue massage is a separate category of massage therapy, used to treat particular muscular-skeletal disorders and complaints and employs a dedicated set of techniques and strokes to achieve a measure of relief. It should not be confused with “deep pressure” massage, which is one that is performed with sustained strong, occasionally intense pressure throughout an entire full-body session, and that is not performed to address a specific complaint. Deep tissue massage is applied to both the superficial and deep layers of muscles, fascia, and other structures. The sessions are often quite intense as a result of the deliberate, focused work. When a client asks for a massage and uses the term “deep tissue”, more often than not he or she is seeking to receive a full-body session with sustained deep pressure throughout. If a practitioner employs deep tissue techniques on the entire body in one session, it would be next to impossible to perform; it might lead to injury or localized muscle and nerve trauma, thereby rendering the session counterproductive...
Massage technique used to gently work and stimulate the lymphatic system, to assist in reduction of localized swelling. The lymphatic system is a network of slow moving vessels in the body that is responsible for the removal of cellular waste and toxic microbes from the body. The Lymphatic drainage massage is believed to help in detoxification of the body and in stimulating the body's immune system.
In Mesoamerica as in other areas of the world an indigenous form of soft tissue and structural massage has developed. Today this art survives thanks to the many Sobadoras/es or Hueseros/as that have handed-down these techniques via oral tradition.
Given some of the main benefits of massage, many people prefer to have a therapist come to them to perform the treatment as opposed to visiting the therapist. Amongst other things, this type of treatment has the benefits of allowing the recipient to remain in their own environment with which they are likely most comfortable, to avoid the pre and post stresses of travelling to the therapist to receive their massage and of course to retire directly to a place of rest immediately following their massage. Therapists can bring a dedicated table with them on which to perform the massage or perform the treatment on the floor or the client's own bed. Mobile (or outcall) massages are particularly popular in big cities around the world where life can be more hectic than elsewhere and there are many operators of such services in places like London and New York.
An integration of techniques including basic Swedish massage, aromatherapy, reflexology, shiatsu, energy balancing, tuina Chinese medical massage, acupressure and craniosacral therapy along with other modalities in conjunction with instruction in nutrition, meditation and yoga. The term Myomassology was coined by Irene Gauthier to describe her combined work of Swedish massage, craniosacral therapy, reflexology and body mechanics.
Reciprocal inhibition involves locating specific muscles that are in spasm and then actively contracting the opposing muscle groups. This causes the tight muscles to reduce by limiting nervous system input, allowing relaxation and reducing pain. Reciprocal inhibition technique takes advantage of the neurological mechanism that exists naturally. It is effective in treating acute spasm and joint inflammation, especially in the lumbar and cervical spine.
Massage techniques such as sports massage, trigger point therapy and PNF stretching combined for an overall curative approach.
A few various techniques that are practiced on oneself, such as stroking the temples with strong pressure from front to back, rubbing the bottoms of the feet with one's knuckles or a wooden massage tool, and circular movement with thumb on palm of hand.
A massage by two or more therapist. It is occasionally called a four hand massage. Therapist usually work simultaneously in a rhythmic fashion providing a great relaxing stimuli on the nervous system.
One form is Mayan abdominal massage which is practiced in many countries in Latin America. This type of massage may have been developed by Elijio Panti of Belize and brought to the United States by Rosita Arvigo.
Zoku Shin Do is an ancient Chinese system of foot massage that claims to treat the foot as a system related to the whole body and stimulate energy flow.
I recommend that we consolidate all content concerning effectiveness in one section.
With respect to Shiatsu and acupressure, I recommend the following:
TheProfessor ( talk) 15:01, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
The assertion, "BC 493: A possible biblical reference documents daily "treatments" with oil of myrrh as a part of the beauty regimen of the wives of Xerxes (Esther, 2:12)", is mere speculation and, based on common Biblical uses for oil and myrrh as substances for anointing, is probably misrepresented here. The reference in no way enhances the article and its removal would not pose problems in my opinion. Ormr2014 ( talk) 03:31, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
Hand Massage-hand massage is Hand Massage! xD — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.200.29.214 ( talk) 12:45, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
They both have the same Main Article, could the sections be combined? Juno ( talk) 09:48, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
In terms of Aquatic bodywork and Watsu, we have a start here in the Massage article, and in the separate Watsu and Aquatic therapy articles. I'd like to flesh those out, especially Aquatic therapy. At some point, if I can pull together the sources, I'd like to write an Aquatic bodywork article. TheProfessor ( talk) 14:26, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
When I have some time I will hunt for more sources. Maybe there should be an article covering the different types of water-based massage? Juno ( talk) 09:59, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
Hello, I notice that the link to the Swedish Massage main article is circular and refers back to the paragraph in this article. I am unable to find it anywhere else on Wikipedia. Does such an article exist? If yes, can someone correct the link, and if no, is it not fairer to somehow indicate that the link goes nowhere?
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Anma is a traditional Japanese massage involving vigorous kneading, rubbing, tapping and shaking. It is commonly performed through clothing. Anma contributed significantly to the formation of shiatsu. citation needed
Balinese massage techniques are gentle and aim to make the patient feel relaxed and calm throughout. The techniques include skin folding, kneading, stroking, and other techniques. The massage therapist applies aromatherapy oil throughout the massage. A patient's blood, oxygen and energy flow is said to increase due to the treatment. Balinese hot stones are an options and easy .
Bowen technique involves a rolling movement over fascia, muscles, ligaments, tendons and joints. It is said not to involve deep or prolonged contact with muscle tissues as in most kinds of massage, but claims to relieve muscle tensions and strains and to restore normal lymphatic flow.
Breema bodywork is performed on the floor with the recipient fully clothed. It consists of rhythmical and gentle leans and stretches.
Champissage is a massage technique focusing on the head, neck and face that is believed to balance the chakras.
Esalen Massage was developed at the Esalen Institute based on a combination of many massage and bodywork techniques. The two main influences were Swedish massage and the Sensory Awareness work of Charlotte Selver. Esalen Massage works with gentle rocking of the body, passive joint exercises and deep structural work on the muscles and joints, together with an energetic balancing of the body.
Hilot is a traditional healing technique from the Philippines that uses massage, joint manipulations, and herbs such as banana leaves. Hilot is claimed to relax muscles, reset sprained joints, assess and treat musculoligamentous and musculoskeletal ailments, aid in giving birth and post-birth recovery for mother and baby, and to induce abortion.
Infant massage is a type of complementary and alternative treatment that uses massage therapy for human infants. This therapy has been practiced globally, and has been increasingly used in Western countries as a treatment for infants.
Kum Nye and sKu-mNyé are a wide variety of Tibetan religious and medical body practices. The two terms are different spellings in the Latin alphabet of the same Tibetan phrase (Wylie: sku mnye), which literally means "massage of the subtle body". Some systems of sku mnye are vaguely similar to Yoga, T'ai chi, Qigong, or therapeutic massage. "Kum Nye", Ku Nye, and Kunye are also used to transcribe the Tibetan phrases dku mnye ("belly massage") and bsku mnye ("oil massage"), which are pronounced identically to sku mnye. dKu mnye and bsku mnye manipulate the physical body, rather than the subtle (energetic) one.
The Metamorphic Technique is a gentle form of foot, hand and head massage that can be carried out by anyone with a brief training in the technique. It draws on reflexology in its theory and approach.
Neuromuscular therapy (NMT) is an approach to soft tissue manual therapy in which quasi-static pressure is applied to soft tissue to stimulate skeletal striated muscle.
Through applied knowledge of trigger points, neuromuscular therapy addresses postural distortion ( poor posture), biomechanical dysfunction, nerve compression syndrome, and ischemia.
In NMT, one must apply manual pressure perpendicular to the skin surface if muscle is to be stimulated.
Through a postural assessment the nerve root that is causing the problem is identified. By stimulating all of the muscles associated with a particular nerve root, the nervous system learns to send the proper signal to the muscles allowing them to respond and function properly – with a full range of motion and without tension and pain.
Pediatric massage is the complementary and alternative treatment that uses massage therapy, or "the manual manipulation of soft tissue intended to promote health and well-being" for children and adolescents.
Postural Integration is a process-oriented bodywork combining deep tissue massage with breathwork, body movement and awareness as well as emotional expression.
Prostate massage was once the most popular therapeutic maneuver used to treat prostatitis. According to the Prostatitis Foundation "it used to be, in the age before antibiotics (before about 1960 for prostatitis), doctors performed massage when their patients had prostatitis. In some cases it was enough to cure them of the disease. ... it fell out of common practice with the advent of antibiotics."
Reflexology is based on the principle that there are reflexes in the hands and feet that relate to every organ, gland, and system of the body.
Also known as manual therapy, manipulative therapy, or manual & manipulative therapy, this is a physical treatment primarily used on the neuromusculoskeletal system to treat pain and disability. It most commonly includes kneading and manipulation of muscles, joint mobilization and joint manipulation.
A stone massage uses cold or water-heated stones to apply pressure and heat to the body. Stones coated in oil can also be used by the therapist delivering various massaging strokes. The hot stones used are commonly Basalt stones (or lava rocks) which over time have become extremely polished and smooth. As the stones are placed along the recipient's back, they help to retain heat which then deeply penetrates into the muscles.
A massage technique popularized by the neotantra movement, and drawing on modern interpretations of tantra.
The Trager approach combines movement and touch, especially rocking and shaking, to educate the body/mind.
-- Jytdog ( talk) 18:38, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
Is there any literary or other evidence that massage in China dates back 5,000 years? That is a very long time. Also, what does "Western ideas are considered within the traditional framework" mean?
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I removed the entirely unsourced section on China and rewrote it. The RS I could conveniently find on the subject were a bit dry and industry related and also put a heavy focus on links with the sex trade. I welcome the addition of some information on the underlying traditions. If anyone could suggest some sources for this it would be appreciated. Online searches mostly link to commercial sites, which I’m reluctant to use. One source I would like is one that states that Chinese massage parlors often offer Chinese traditional medical treatments such as cupping. Edaham ( talk) 23:01, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
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Citation #25 is out of date; Alaska was forced to license in 2015 https://careertrend.com/list-6537675-states-not-require-massage-license.html As of 2014 there were 6, Kansas, Minnesota, Oklahoma, Vermont and Wyoming plus Alaska, but since then Alaska has required licensing. Serveral other sites colaborate with them https://www.google.com/search?q=what+states+do+not+require+a+license+to+massage&oq=what+&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i60l4j69i65.2222j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 & some have which have to have insurance to practice, if the state monitors for prostitution, and other things. Unicornsmom ( talk) 03:47, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
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Citation #57 Reflexology is a pseudoscience isn't true. By stimulation of nerves in hand/foot other non-direct location it has an effect on the connected nerve bundle along the way. TENS Units have their electrode pads placed on such positions to help with chronic or acute issues. Example: zapping a nerve near the achilles heel & ankle to help with incontances. I understand that it is difficult for some to believe stimulating the nerves between thumb and index finger can run up the arm & where it connects into the spine, have an effect that goes along the neck into the dental area alleviating pain; or massaging a location in the wrist/forearm area can result in less nausea or vomiting then ginger or medications; but repeatedly it has been found not just in traditional USA medical practice to be valid, but world round. The sights below all believe that reflexology is real, based on scientific facts, are an ancient form of healing, and help a person's overall wellness. There are more, but I thought I'd start with the basics to cover my point. https://www.webmd.com/balance/qa/what-is-reflexology-massage https://www.massageenvy.com/massage/massage-types/reflexology-massage/ https colon slash slash www dot Very Well Health dot com slash reflexology-what-you-need-to-know-89995 https://www.spafinder.com/blog/health-and-well-being/reflexology-101-treatment-benefits/ https://www.angieslist.com/articles/what-difference-between-reflexology-and-massage.htm
It has been in recent years we've seen how weather (SADS), magnetic forces (both from the earth itself and wearing a loadstone), certain metals(copper & nickel), and other forces of nature (like hemp or certain mushrooms have medicinal properties, while hemlock hurts most a tolerance can be built to it, & poison oak/ivy/sumac aren't pleasant for most people) can affect, effect, defect, and improve health in a person that were previously thought to be pseudoscience or "magic". The art of healing will always be changing, hopefully for the better & most natural. Unicornsmom ( talk) 05:50, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
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Many cars offer massage seats including many luxury cars
https://www.carmax.com/cars/seat-massagers https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison-test/a15119670/seat-massager-showdown-2012-jaguar-xjl-supersport-vs-2012-mercedes-benz-cl550-2012-audi-a8l-comparison-tests/ https://www.carthrottle.com/post/heres-whats-inside-one-of-mercedes-complex-massage-seats/ https://www.autobytel.com/car-buying-guides/features/10-vehicles-with-massage-seats-130517/ Xpartz ( talk) 10:07, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
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This article I am found References section 64 number - "Swedish Massage". Massagereister.com. Archived(https://archive.is/20120904080101/http://www.massageregister.com/western-massage/swedish-massage ) from the original --> ( http://www.massageregister.com/western-massage/swedish-massage) on 4 September 2012. Retrieved 18 October 2013. here - I am suggesting better new relevant content source link --> https://www.massagespaindia.com/blog/swedish-massage/ kindly update by checking my edit request. Thanks, I will be suggesting also other better new sources on another topic. I love to contribute to Wikipedia. Aadu2019 ( talk) 11:54, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
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Hi contributor,
I read your article and found lots of information about the massage. Its a very helpful to the users but when I was clicked on the reference 65 and open the reference page URL but that page was not relevant. I have a better fit for that reference hope you will read that and will add this as reference page. Current Reference URL. "Swedish Massage". Massagereister.com. Archived from the original on 4 September 2012. Retrieved 18 October 2013.
Suggested page for this https://www.massagetherapyschoolsinformation.com/swedish-massage/ Mohammad.shaan3 (talk) 06:47, 23 August 2019 (UTC) Mohammad.shaan3 ( talk) 09:35, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
This section currently includes three subsections that do not relate to the section itself. They are filler and should be removed. They might even suggest a need for 'non-therapeutic' or 'other' section.
Practitioner associations and official recognition of professionals is not related to the section and, furthermore, the content isn't even relevant to the subsection heading itself.
Associated methods lists various methods but there is no association to medical/therapeutic use.
Massage and proprioception is about a) how massage and proprioception are not associated and b) the association has been studied very little and c) increasing proprioception has not even been shown to be therapeutic. Arbalest Mike ( talk) 18:36, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
There is no coverage in this page of the means by which massage achieves its intended effect. That’s the thing I’m interested in. Willbown ( talk) 10:30, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
Stomach Massage with hand Taichi 119.56.111.80 ( talk) 02:50, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
1 leg on sofa, face front is a good massage therapy for back? 202.166.40.215 ( talk) 03:06, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
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I deleted the preceding phrase and I added the part about Tantramassage, I don't want to step into discussions about moral values and about the term "prostitution". I work with Tantrmassages and I am not a prostitute, but statements like this don't belong to an article about "massage" -Martina
I see that "massage therapy" is now forwarding to "bodywork". I believe a more appropriate forwarding would be to "massage" (or maybe from massage to massage therapy). I also noticed that "bodywork" and "massage therapy" as presented as equivalent, but ddddI belive there should be some differentiation. All massage therapy is bodywork, but not all bodywork is massage therapy (e.g. Breema). Perklund 03:03, Nov 5, 2004 (UTC)
There was an anonymous addition by 68.57.0.235 stating: "In most states, certain areas such as the genitals ... are draped at all times." Is that a habit or a legal requirement? And are those "states" the ones of the USA? − Woodstone 13:43, 2005 Apr 3 (UTC)
I am living in Australia and I am currently training as a massage therapist. I'm not sure about America, but in Australia, not draping the genital region is unethical and a form of malpractice that has legal implications. Hence, why draping the genitals is a habit, because of legal implications.
My response to the Australian is to say that your attitude is awfully prudish. In America attention to the genitals is considered an integral part of the massage.
I am a licensed massage therapist and I can vouch for the fact that "In America attention to the genitals is NOT considered an integral part of the massage." Where would anyone get this idea? Therapeutic massage and "erotic massage" (or anything else that harkens back to the notion of massage parlors as a euphemism for house of prostitution) have nothing in common. I take it as a personal insult, and an insult to all my colleagues who have also studied anatomy and physiology and spent hours and hours doing supervised clinical massage treatments in order to become licenses professional, when there is any mention of or association with anything sexual in the same breath with "massage." It's not a matter or morals, being prudish, or any such thing. It's just a matter or factual accuracy. We are allied health professionals. We are not sex therapists, prostitutes or escorts. Even hospitals are hiring massage therapists in recent years. This misinformation needs to be corrected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Boogiewoman ( talk • contribs)
Well, I'm pleased to see that, at least on principal, Boogiewoman doesn't inject "...matter or morals, being prudish, or any such thing" into her massage work, but she sounds pretty touchy to me when she claims that TM (therapeutic massage) has absolutely nothing in common with EM (erotic massage) and takes it as a personal insult whenever there is "...any mention of or association with anything sexual in the same breath with 'massage'". Maybe she needs to have her attitudes "massaged" by another health professional? On a more serious note, I think I heard on Fox News (I was a captive audience, in the workplace) that the American Medical Association (AMA) and/or insurance companies are claiming that massage is not scientifically "efficacious" (effective) at all; this CANNOT bode well at all for those of us who value relaxation and mind/body/spirit integration, so what's going on, is Fox turning its big guns against alt. medicine and massage now? -Unsigned
I am a massage therapist in Nevada, where draping is a MUST! We must be completely professional and nonsexual because prostitution is legal in certain situations in Nevada, and we cannot cross that line or imply that we do. We drape all of the body except the one part we are working on, and if anything sexual happens during the massage, we must stop immediately. It's a very defined line. State by state, the laws are very different in the United States, as are the licensing requirements. Some states/counties do not even require licensing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.93.81.238 ( talk) 02:21, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
It seems to me that this article should be split into an article on massage in general, with seperate articles for each of the "types of massage" and likewise for the "massage therapist organizations." Also, the main article should posibly be renamed to "massage therapy", and a differentiation between "massage" and "massage therapy" should be made. - Akromian 10:01, May 15, 2005 (UTC)
In response to the above I agree. There is one important aspect of "Massage Therapy" that is missing. "Musculoskeletal assessment" is a tool that massage therapists (as well as other health care professionals) use to assess injury, degree of injury and postural definceies (muscle imbalances) that occur through out the body. What good are all these techniques with a out guide line for applying them? General scenario; The assessment revelied the agonist is short and tight and the antagonist is long and tight causing abnormal wear on the structures involved such as articular surfaces, ligaments, nerves, blood vessels, facia ect... Now this is a guide line for appling diffrent techniques with the muscular tension relationship in mind. -Unsigned
Someone has created a new Wikipedia entry for "Massage Parlor" that needs A LOT of work... Please come help! It's awful! -Unsigned
The concise intro was replaced by the following rambling passage, which is not clear and contains a lot of info that is really not to the point. Please other watchers comment. − Woodstone 10:37, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
Massage is the practice of applying moving or stationary pressure, vibration or a tremulous movement of the hands or a device held in the hands, percussion, or a regular, rhythmic tapping using the hands or a device held in the hands) or regular, back and forth, almost non-existent compression using an ice cube) using the hands or devices held in the hand to the many different tissues of the body, especially the nerves where they draw near the surface of the body and the blood vessels. Massage does not work upon the bones, muscles, tendons, or ligaments of the musculoskeletal system, but rather through them, to get at nerves or blood vessels which, when acted upon can stimulate or inhibit physiological processes of interest. These structures and fascia can also be used as a floor upon which to compress blood vessels and nerves to elicit a therapeutic effect. From the earliest times in European history, circa the fourth century B.C.E., upon to the present massage as a tool of medicine has been applied only to localized parts of the body or limited regions of it to elicit a specific physiological effect. Whole body, or general, massage is a relatively new phenomenon, which was developed for use in the health spas of England during the late nineteenth century where its purpose was to provide the recipient a few moments of relaxation and pleasure before the real work of clinical massage was begun. Applications of massage have been developed over the past one hundred and fifty years to relieve discomfort and disease affecting every organ system of the body. So excellent research has been published, along with much unsubstantiated chaff, mere claims of clinicians vaguely depicted without a possibility of these techniques being resurrected and duplicated by clinicians today. Massage can prove an aid in treating disorders of the veins and arteries; the peripheral and autonomic nerves, the spinal cord and brain, the thyroid and adrenal glands; and the various organs of the gastrointestinal, genitourinary and cardiovascular systems. Massages almost always acts subtly to stimulate or inhibit biochemical processes of the body, or to stimulate or inhibit reflexes. In limited circumstances it can be used to elicit a mechanical effect so as to impede dysfunctional scar tissue formation within or upon a site of tissue injury. The body of knowledge concerning the application of massage to treat primary disorders of the musculoskeletal system is very small. Massage of aspects of the nervous system is often sufficient to induce sleep or alertness, to relieve anxiety or depressed mood, to relieve nausea and vomiting, to moderate or eliminate migraine or sinus headache, or to reduce muscle tension or motor spasticity of paralysis.
A clinical massage therapist needs to assess would be clients afflicted with a medical disorder with which they would like a massage therapists help in controlling their symptoms initially by obtaining a medical release from the client's physician so as to learn the medical conditions with which they are currently afflicted, a summary of the treatments now being given to these patients, and a summary of the patient's current medical condition, as all of this informaiton will help guide a clinical interview which must necessarily precede a clinical physical examination. The best way to obtain a quick turn around from the patient's physician is to fax a copy of the release to the patient's physician, then follow up a few hours later with a call specifically to the doctor's nurse, asking her help in getting a quick turn around for the release. Usually within a day the appropriate information will be faxed to you. Until you have the needed information, it is essential that massage work proceed gently, lightly and briefly so as to elicit no untoward reaction from a medical problem of which your client us unaware.
This article has little information on massage itself, but has a massive list of types of massage and another for "massage schools" which clutter it so we don't see its emptiness.
I think this is stupid, and I MOVED (not deleted) those lists to pages of their own. But this was unfortunately reverted by User: Woodstone, with an edit summary that implied all I did was a "massive delete". Does anyone really think these lists are relevant in the main massage article? In absence of an answer, I will do the move again. Jules.LT 10:37, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
How does a massage work? Why does it make me feel tingly? What is the scientific explanation for this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 165.247.108.108 ( talk • contribs) .
I notice that someone else has recently had a similar message to mine - I posted some information about the Scottish Massage Therapists Organisation and it was removed and I was told it was advertising. I don't understand why it's OK to have USA organisations, Australian organisations, but not Scottish ones! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rubyr ( talk • contribs) .
Anyways what I'm saying is massage should not be taken out because what if you have never heard the terms “Body work” or “massage therapy” not probable but possible. -Unsigned
I removed all but one entry under External links because they all were for clinics or associations of therapists or schools, and were more about advertising than anything else. -- Dalbury( Talk) 11:49, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
I wasnt' sure if I should replace this but wanted to bring it up. The 2nd paragraph states that a massage therapist assesses a client through range of motion...... however, I have learned that 'range of motion' is a phrase reserved for physical therapists, and that massage therapists can be sued for its use.
Reply:I am a licensed massage therapist in Iowa, and ROM is well within our legal perogative to use. 6:45PM, May 5 2006
I am surpised that the article does not discuss what the long term and short term health benefits of massages are. If it's a therapy, what is it curing? To my knowledge massage therapy has not been proven to have any long term health benefits. It just makes people feel nice, relaxed, and pampered for a short while. Am I correct? I think the article should point to some research resources. - Nanoflop
This issue is the next great hurdle that massage therapy as a profession needs to contend with. The popular view of massage as well as the predominant current practice limits massage to use as a tool for relaxation. Even articles such as the one under discussion here talk about the therapeutic benefits of massage in vague terms.
Massage therapy is indicated in most cases of soft tissue dysfunction. It's main therapeutic benefit is in lengthening muscles, resetting muscle resting length, treating scar tissue from injury or surgery to create a more functional scar, free restrictions between layers of myofascia, and generally return the myofascial and skeletal network to a state of balance and optimal function.
Because I'm unaware of adequate research, I present a case study. I once had a client who presented with severe pain in her gluteal region and thighs. She attributed the pain to a new personal training program she had recently begun. Her history revealed an accident 15 years ago that *severely* traumatized her abdomen and lower body. She used massage as part of her rehabilitative process, but it wasn't comprehensive, as she still had scar tissue and myofascial restrictions from her rib cage down.
When I first saw her, she walked slowly with a noticeable limp. After two sessions of almost exclusive myofascial work, she was walking normally and could resume her exercise program. At a later date, she returned, barely able to turn over in bed. We focused on her abdomen using myofascial release for the entire session, and by the end of it, she could turnover with ease.
My explanation of the theory behind these results? Anytime tissue is traumatized and goes through a healing process, scar tissue is laid down to repair the injury. Her old injuries were so comprehensive that scar tissue was laid down over her entire lower body, restricting not only her movement but also the growth and development of her muscles. She didn't experience any major problems until she began her strength training program, at which point her muscle growth ran into the wall of scar tissue encasing each bundle of contractile tissue. The downward spiral of pain and spasm ensued, restricting movement, blood/lymph flow, and impinging nerves in the region.
A blend of connective tissue, deep tissue, and Swedish techniques was successful in releasing these restrictions to create more functional scar tissue, decrease pain, increase range of motion, enable normal muscle growth, increase circulation, and normalize nerve function. Most importantly, she was able to return to a normally functioning life.
It is difficult to make a general statement about what tissues and structures massage therapy as a whole treats. The only true answer is, "It depends." It depends on what structures are dysfunctional in the particular client as well as what structures are best targeted by the modalities that any given practitioner has at hand. It depends on the working model of the body kept by the practitioner in his mind, on his technical knowledge, and on his intent.
So, to say that massage therapy reduces restrictions in soft tissue, relaxes muscles, and increases circulation is a true statement, but it completely glosses over the deeper implications of massage as a valuable field in complementary health. It truly is the tip of the iceberg.-- Ryokan 18:12, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
But the performance could improve without massage and through the natural healing process. It seems implossible to find a reliable control for such an experiment.
If massage therapy theories are based off physiology theories and laws, and, if massage therapy branched out of physiotherapy then shouldn't we be able to find research through their keywords? And I disagree with the above statement that it is impossible, massage therapist researchers have to start being involved in the research world. Iplantree 04:45, 15 August 2007 (UTC) I also would like to mention that injuries and dysfunction typically result in chronic and deteriorating conditions if left untreated. For example, poor posture. Chronic, contractures, soft tissue imbalances, and fascial adhesions and so on. These don't all go away in one day. This takes work, determination, and manipulation in some manner. If a natural healing process was used exclusively, this posture wouldn't exist and persist once that individual's causative factor had been removed. The massage therapists role in treating the client's presenting condition is to intentionally stimulate the body's physiological responses and reflexes to the client's advantage. Iplantree 05:30, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
I am an engineer and bodyworker. My engineer and science friends have progressed their respective wiki pages very well, because they are used to technical writing. Massage Therapists who practice their art well may still have trouble explaining the technical aspects and some do not use computers at all. I added a section, Barefoot, and may add to the massage section later when I learn some rules here.
Coming from rocket science, I am quite a skeptic, but have been convinced that all therapies that I have tried under qualified therapists can do something good. If it does some good, then why not check it out? There are many tried and documented benefits of massage, some of which can be found on my site svacina.com So let's keep it going and soon we'll have a good compendium! user= psnack
Massage, in my opinion refers to Swedish Massage, the soft flowing, relaxation variety. Soft Tissue Therapy (STT) involves assessment, treatment, and re-assessment. At present only a handful of therapists care to make the distinction. The "Massage Therapists" are happy to ride on the coat-tails of ST therapists who are making in-roads with the medical fraternity, but, alas, are often unable to produce the same results. This then disillusions the medical fraternity until they again come across a ST therapist who knows what they are doing.
The skillful, educated soft tissue therapist has a system for assessing, treating, and re-assessing every client they see; seeking to treat the tissues that lie beneath the skin. The massage therapist's "intent" goes no deeper than the skin's surface.
For the record, no therapist "cures" anything, we simply facilitate / mobilise the body's own resources. Doctors "fix" things by either poisoning (drugs) or carving it up (surgery).
As for "proof" [www.softtissuetherapy.com.au a reference section] that lists about 1,000 articles on "massage" (as it is still known, for now) . . . I had this amazing resource listed on "the wik" in the soft tissue therapy section until Dan removed it because of "spammy external link, no useful content I can see", I think it was. And no, it is not my website ( Euripides 23:38, 20 April 2006 (UTC))
I would like to propose that the current definition of "massage" as it is stated, should be changed. If it is, as it remains, we should include in the "massage" section, physiotherapy, osteopathy, chiropractic, even possibly nursing, among others. What I propose is that all the so-called massage techniques become "bodywork" - "massage" is a type of bodywork, as is physiotherapy, as is shiatsu, as is soft tissue therapy etc., etc., as such, it should be listed among the types of bodywork, rather than being a specific category in itself. The term "massage" is pretty much defunct now, it seems to include ANY technique that involves touching a person, and that they not be a physio, osteo, or chiro. I will post this propsal about the various bodywork discussions for some feedback. I think that Wiki is a great starting point to delineate and structure the types of bodywork that exist around the world. ( Euripides 03:03, 1 May 2006 (UTC))
Surprise! No scientific evidence that massage is pseudo-practice, no skeptics’ dictionary. The page starts with: Where massage is used for its physical and psychological benefits, it may be termed "therapeutic massage therapy". There is no any may be, therapeutic massage is reality! However right after previous sentence of this article reader can find:
Erotic massage and prostitution has noting to do with therapeutic massage. If some people using word massage to cover up prostitution, nobody can blame therapeutic massage for that. Some prostitutes may use name exotic dancer to cover up, however the real dancers can not be called prostitutes and sex workers. Approximately 5 years ago in Chicago two prostitutes used massage therapy to cover up prostitution, but fail to name the school they graduate from. Anyway Police contacted all massage therapy schools.
I don’t remember name of the movie I recently watch, but I remember episode when very old man in the hospital asking young nurse to hold his penis. So base on this, probably realistic situation, everybody should make conclusion that in the hospitals certain sexual situations may happen between patients and nurses also possibly doctors. Common, how many times we saw love relations in medical offices in the movies?
Well, in our school of massage it is not matter of body may be "draped", it is must be draped. All textbooks contain explanation of how to do proper draping. It is not understandable to me why "may be" is used. And another termin "unclothed" , in hospitals patients wear only gowns which is very unreliable dressing. So what is it- positive sign or warning about possible dangerous sexual advances? What is this place finally: is it encyclopedia or police report?
Conclusion: This is insult for me and many other professional massage therapists. I would like to point everybody attention to MASSAGE THERAPISTS which is the legal name recognized by all authorities. If we have Massage therapists it means somewhere must be Therapeutic massage. Yet, in “Wikipedia” therapeutic massage page is not available. Page about Swedish massage (basic knowledge of every professional massage therapist) is the same as just a Massage page. Who prepared this page? I hope it is not discrediting campaign run by government funded agency! If this is not a campaign, than what? I was not able to find any such remarks on page “Medicine”. When we talk about hospitals do we always have to mention that this is a dengerous palace, because surgeons can replace knee joint in the healthy leg? Finally I want to propose new page as Professional Therapeutic massage with possible link to page Massage. 06.10.06 Massage instructor: ogkmv@comcast.net
Why is massage pleasurable? Why is it even more pleasurable shortly after one has had an orgasm? My pet theory is that there is some kind of "magic powder" that accumulates in muscles, and deeply massaging the tissue dislodges the powder, after which it flows through the blood and reaches the brain. Orgasms release huge amounts of this powder, but some of it gets trapped in muscle tissue, and thus a massage shortly afterward dislodges this remnant. Totally unscientific and silly, I know, but what is really going on here? Inquiring minds want to know. I would also like to know why scalp massage is insanely pleasurable when done right. Thank you. Btw, the magic powder could be endorphins, but I got a C in cell bio. =(
If Wikipedia keeps this and removed page I started approximately a month ago about Therapeutic massage it means that Wikipedia running program to discredit Therapeutic massage. However this so called "encyclopedia" Is discredited in my eyes. LaCrosse 06.29.06
There definitely needs to be a dicotomy between a simple definition of massage and the practices of therapeutic massage and bodywork. Bekados 04:40, 13 June 2006 (UTC)FL massage therapist 6.12.06
What's with the picture of those massage balls? Anyone else think they are irrelevant, particularly with regard to massage therapy? I'm sure we can come up with a more suitable picture than that! Sydney naturopath 12:29, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
I considered moving AMTA from the "United States" to the "International" sub-section of Professional Organizations, and changing the text to read: *The [[American Massage Therapy Association]] ([[AMTA]]) is a non-profit professional organization that represents over 55,000 massage therapists in 27 countries, and in the United States is a recognized 501 c (6) non-profit organization.
I hesitate because the first "A" in AMTA is "American". I'd like to get feedback from other body workers. Also, I was surprised ABMP was listed under International, as I'd never read anything about them being international. I've searched their site and haven't found anything about their international presence, yet. — Daelin 20:25, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
The word "nuat" ends in the Thai letter ด. This letter is pronounced as "d" at the beginning of a word, but is always pronounced as "t" at the end of a word (or syllable). Wikipedia follows the Royal Thai General System of Transcription (RTGS). In this system, a final ด is transcribed as "t". Definitely the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA) always follows sound, not spelling, so should have /t/. Finally, wikipedia has a policy of only one initial capital in article titles (except proper names). Traditional massage is just an ordinary Thai phrase. So the principal article is Nuat phaen boran. A redirect is present from Nuat Phaen Boran. − Woodstone 19:28, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
I found this page because I wanted to find out about the practice of Massaging the Numbers. I know the dictionary definition, but the dictionary does not make it clear wether "Massaging the Numbers" refers to a particular method of misrepresentation, or merely refers in general to any numerical misrepresentation that is not actually a lie.
If Massaging the Numbers does not pertain to a particular method of misrepresentation, then this should be stated in Wiktionary, and if it does pertain to a specific method, then that method should be described in Wikipedia and a disambiguation page for "Massage" should be created (or a link within the "Massage" article saying see also "Massage the Numbers" or something like that.)-- VegKilla 22:52, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Is Eselan massage in some parts of the world not more known as Californain massage? Should we mention it?-- Rcsmit 14:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Please divide up therapeutic massage and the general term massage. Us professionals already spend plenty of energy defining our professional scope. The general term can mean anything from pure entertainment to erotic massage to giving a backrub and tantra and we don't want to be linked to this. I am sure the American Massage Association has a nice definition of therapeutic massage. I suggest that massage be divided into categories, depending on what massage PROVIDES or what it aims at. Thank you! Christian Herold, Zurich Switzerland xtian [at] swissonline.ch
First, it claims that massage has certain medical benefits without sourcing them, and there are several positive statements about massage while there are no criticisms whatsoever. Hell, some of the claims have been proven false, such as that it increases circulation in a beneficial way (there have been doppler ultrasound studies on this) or that it speeds healing. Hey, if you're going to make a bunch of unsourced medical claims, why not throw the long-standing myth about massage ridding your body of lactic acid in there as well?-- 207.118.44.110 03:08, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Hello. I edited the lomilomi section to be consistent with documented history and the lomilomi page. I especially felt compelled to take out the sentence that lomilomi was "demonstrated" in the movie, "Meet the Fockers." Barbara Streisand purported to give Robert DeNiro a lomilomi, but it was not an accurate depiction. Makana Chai 08:20, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
I think this section should go because it's not based on scientific data and also the comparison between tui na and modern medicine doesn't really hold. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.87.98.224 ( talk) 22:24, August 27, 2007 (UTC)
Please help me add these to Wikipeda they might fall into several catergories, it is hard to catergorize some of them because of the heavy advertisment effect on new practices, I am trying to get their core philosophies/techniques into writing, strict massage, energy therapies, movement therapies etc. They are coming from Somatic disciplines. Bronayur 01:39, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Why are there not more citations to hard research? A 2-minute search led me to this compendium of research articles Makana Chai 00:33, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 16:28, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
As the heading for this section is "beneficial effects" and not "claimed beneficial effects" or "perceived beneficial effects" or "Uses" it seems logical that any claimed beneficial effect that is not supported by evidence should be removed from this section.
NCBI cancer study was referenced multiple times. I amended the first reference to include a note on the studies lack of controls and removed subsequent references that claim massage is a cure for anxiety and depression. Regression to the mean and placebo effects could easily account for the effects found in this study so a claim that massage reduces anxiety and depression with no caution is unsatisfactory. Also the article reads like anxiety and depression reducing effects were supported in a sample with no comorbid conditions. It completely failed to mention that the sample was of cancer patients when the study was used to support these claims. This study has been referenced many times and it is simply insufficient to support many of the claims. As such, a fair amount of text has been removed.
The NCCAM reference used to support the claim that massage therapy increases general well being. The NCCAM source, however, deliberately avoided making claims that massage therapy actually does work eg. "How massage therapy might work" so this claim has been removed. Subsequent NCCAM references in which a claimed effect of massage has been presented as a true effect, using this source as evidence have been removed.
Touch research institute claims. I removed those studies in which it is completely unclear what evidence is being referenced. A left a few references in which the original study was described. However, I would like the reference changed to the original study so that I and others may review the evidence to check that the claims are, in fact, valid.
Sunflower therapy. If you read the original article, you'll find that the researchers don't actually believe that massage therapy should be implemented to improve self esteem or that this effect can be reliably indicated "At present, it is unclear if improvements in self-esteem by the dyslexic children were related to the treatment received, or more general attention factors associated with participation in a University research programme." so I have removed this reference.
Policy statements, especially those that are from organisations such as the University of Michigan Integrative Medicine, cannot be used to support the efficacy of any treatment. Research evidence is neeeded. Claims of efficacy based on policy statements without supporting evidence have been removed. JamesStewart7 ( talk) 07:31, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
I have placed this tag for numerous reasons:
I could go on but I think you get the point. JamesStewart7 ( talk) 08:19, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
I know the source for this clearly states that "anatripsis" and "frictio" are both Greek terms for massage, but this is clearly an error on the part of the author. "anatripsis" finds its root in the verb tribein,"rub/wear (away)/whittle/grate/annoy, etc." while frictio is traceable to the Latin fricare, "rub/chafe." As a teacher of Latin and Greek, (but not a world expert by any means,) this is an obvious mistake. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.244.98.124 ( talk) 23:51, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
I tagged it as citation needed but honestly I think it should be removed if someone can't elaborate. As it is, it's totally uninformative - it could say "blibble blabble bloo" and I'd understand just as much about this supposed technique as I do now. -- Dbutler1986 ( talk) 02:47, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
I noticed a reference to Pressure Point, which is typically Reflexology. The only thing that these modalities have in common with Trigger Point Therapy is the word "point." I hope that someone will point that out. I previously wrote the Barefoot section, only to have it promptly removed, so I have been hesitant to spend my time on wiki. Now maybe increased popularity due to Dara Torres, 40-yr old olympic swimmer who gets barefoot, has prompted a replacement? Psnack ( talk) 04:30, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
This sounds woo-woo to me. Does anyone have a citation to a reputable source for this? I took it out again. I checked Robert Calvert's History of Massage and no mention of this is made. If you can cite a reputable source then it should be in the article. Makana Chai ( talk) 19:45, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your research. Now all we have to do is watch this like hawks so it doesn't get put back. Is there any kind of bot that could do that for us? Makana Chai ( talk) 18:40, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
What disadvantages are there to massage? The article mentions only benefits, but lists several contraindicators. Wouldn't the existence of a contraindicator imply that there can be damage of some kind done by massage? -- Stvfetterly ( talk) 18:39, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
The external link to quackwatch fits as a link to link to under WP:ELMAYBE point 4, as a knowledgeable contributor. Many claims are made for massage that are ill supported, and as a member of the complimentary and alternative medicine family there are aspects that make it a good choice for the pseudoscience label. WLU (t) (c) (rules - simple rules) 00:23, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
This article has no mention of " full release" nor is there information of this on wikipedia. Are you ready for IPv6? ( talk) 03:58, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
I suggest that the licensing section needs to be reformatted slightly to separate out different areas of the world (subheadings?). Presently paragraph 2 has America & Canada together. If we're going to include other areas of the world, trying to combine content like this will become unwieldy.
I don't check my talk page.
-- David McQuillan ( talk) 03:07, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
a marsage is to confort someone x —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.150.39.142 ( talk) 01:05, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Massage/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
As noted above, there are vast amounts of information in this article, and all of it impossible to use. The article needs to be rewritten, most likely split into several articles. There are sections with only a single sentence - these could easily be combined, as could the section on massage chairs/tables, and {{main}} templates added. Some images could do with being redone as well, as they often seem to add little to the article. - mattbuck ( Talk) 22:15, 2 April 2008 (UTC) |
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It is fine to have a section on this, but it must refer to a spectrum of mechanical aids and it must be appropriately sourced. As it was it referred to one device and it appears it was created simply to support another page for that device which is currently being considered for deletion. See Robert Calvert's History of Massage which has a chapter on devices. Makana Chai ( talk) 18:05, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Bio-mechanical stimulation (BMS) is mechanically aided massage Added this type of massage as this is well established in the German speaking world and has been available for over 50+ years, studies have proven promising results in many fields of use e.g. rehabilitation [1], medicine [2] even a independent study has been carried out to ascertain the efficacy of the therapy. [3]
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Hi all, Just a quick note as people with an interest in massage seem to be watching this talk page and there is some good discussion. I have done some work on the massage categories. I have added a new category "massage therapy" and recategorised the articles regarding different modalities under this category. The main massage article (this one) has both categories. At the same time I removed a few articles from the category that were either schools that offered massage among many other courses (and they were only categorised for massage, not everything else) and also a range of spas and places that offered massage. All of the general and sexual/erotic massage is still categorised under massage, and the clinical/therapeutic stuff is now under the subcategory massage therapy. BTW, I agree with those that want to see a clearer demarcation in the article names for general massage, erotic "massage", and therapeutic massage. cheers, Megan Megan Hieatt ( talk) 11:11, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
This article seems to only reflect professional massage, and almost entirely neglect it as any other practice. There is no mention at all of sexual massage. A little more holistic approach might help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.36.122.160 ( talk) 20:54, 11 September 2010 (UTC) I agree - this is a big omission.
I can't find anything here about how massage can result in temproary sickness, or times when a massage is a bad idea. More balance is needed I think 86.186.84.15 ( talk) 16:46, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
Wondering about a reversion of the line I added. Massage therapists who read Wikipedia may wish to learn how to post their services without charge on the web; may have great difficulty finding clients. SkillSlate is a way for them to do this without cost. It isn't spam; rather, it's a way for people to get work. Please reinstate the addition or provide better justification; in addition, Craigslist should be mentioned as well.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 18:16, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
This edit added the term "body/mind" which is a bit vague. Should it be "body and mind" or " bodymind"? Mitch Ames ( talk) 12:55, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
I propose renaming this page 'massage therapy', since it seems to deal almost entirely with regulated professional and medical massage, and having 'massage' as a disambiguating page for that, infant massage, erotic massage etc. Right now the situation seems odd, in that massage therapy seems to be privileged as 'actual' massage, while the other types are shunted to the side. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.222.82.45 ( talk) 03:53, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi - I noticed your tag for references, but don't know how to add them, so hope you might help. http://www.massagetherapy.com/articles/index.php/article_id/539/The-Homestretch Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.189.106.4 ( talk) 20:45, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
Under the section entitled "Thai massage" the final two mini-paragraphs make some fairly robust claims as to the health benefits of Thai massage, as well as some more nebulous statements, such as "... the body undergoes a transformation as the healing begins." Two references are provided, but they appear to link to sites that themselves are not primary, nor do they provide a list of their references. I'd like to hear thoughts on altering or removing these sentences until proper citations can be found. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ValborgSvnesson ( talk • contribs) 21:52, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
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A large amount of material was recently cut from the Massage article and pasted into Massage parlor. There's been some discussion about this at Talk:Massage parlor. The material cut covered licensing for massage therapists, clinical effects of message, and material covering the places where massage therapists work. Massage parlor previously covered establishments offering sexual services in the guise of a "massage". Is the term "massage parlor" widely understood to apply to an LMTs place of business? Do any LMT's call their businesses "massage parlors"? Is it appropriate to have a separate article titled "massage parlor" covering an LMTs place of business? I believe the answer to all 3 questions is "no", and am restoring the cut content. Plantdrew ( talk) 02:49, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
Various reliable sources clearly distinguish the use of the term massage parlour as a s a euphemism for a brothel, an establishment that is actually a front for prostitution or sexual services. Here is one reliable source:
Typical terms for the place of business for legitimate massage include "massage studio", "massage clinic", "day spa", or "spa".
TheProfessor ( talk) 13:47, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
This article has had a refimprove template since 2011, and contains a lot of entirely unsourced material. I'm removing the "types" of massage from the article which are entirely unsourced and putting them below. They may be hoaxes, promotional or too obscure to be included. If good sources can be found they should be supplied so the entry can be moved back to the article. Alexbrn talk| contribs| COI 10:27, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Lymphatic breast massage is a type of breast massage designed to stimulate lymphatic movement in the breast tissue.
Aqua Massage is a dry-water hydrotherapy massage that involves the client laying down on a mattress, water jets pummel on the client, while keeping them dry.
Couples massage is a service offered by some spas and massage parlors where two people (usually, but not always, couples), are massaged side-by-side on separate tables and by separate providers. It adds a social element to massage.
Deep tissue massage is designed to relieve severe tension in the muscle and the connective tissue or fascia. This type of massage focuses on the muscles located below the surface of the top muscles. Deep tissue massage is often recommended for individuals who experience consistent pain, are involved in heavy physical activity (such as athletes), and patients who have sustained a non-recent physical injury. It is not uncommon for receivers of deep tissue massage to have their pain replaced with a new muscle ache for a day or two.
The term “deep tissue” is often misused to identify a massage that is performed with sustained deep pressure. Deep tissue massage is a separate category of massage therapy, used to treat particular muscular-skeletal disorders and complaints and employs a dedicated set of techniques and strokes to achieve a measure of relief. It should not be confused with “deep pressure” massage, which is one that is performed with sustained strong, occasionally intense pressure throughout an entire full-body session, and that is not performed to address a specific complaint. Deep tissue massage is applied to both the superficial and deep layers of muscles, fascia, and other structures. The sessions are often quite intense as a result of the deliberate, focused work. When a client asks for a massage and uses the term “deep tissue”, more often than not he or she is seeking to receive a full-body session with sustained deep pressure throughout. If a practitioner employs deep tissue techniques on the entire body in one session, it would be next to impossible to perform; it might lead to injury or localized muscle and nerve trauma, thereby rendering the session counterproductive...
Massage technique used to gently work and stimulate the lymphatic system, to assist in reduction of localized swelling. The lymphatic system is a network of slow moving vessels in the body that is responsible for the removal of cellular waste and toxic microbes from the body. The Lymphatic drainage massage is believed to help in detoxification of the body and in stimulating the body's immune system.
In Mesoamerica as in other areas of the world an indigenous form of soft tissue and structural massage has developed. Today this art survives thanks to the many Sobadoras/es or Hueseros/as that have handed-down these techniques via oral tradition.
Given some of the main benefits of massage, many people prefer to have a therapist come to them to perform the treatment as opposed to visiting the therapist. Amongst other things, this type of treatment has the benefits of allowing the recipient to remain in their own environment with which they are likely most comfortable, to avoid the pre and post stresses of travelling to the therapist to receive their massage and of course to retire directly to a place of rest immediately following their massage. Therapists can bring a dedicated table with them on which to perform the massage or perform the treatment on the floor or the client's own bed. Mobile (or outcall) massages are particularly popular in big cities around the world where life can be more hectic than elsewhere and there are many operators of such services in places like London and New York.
An integration of techniques including basic Swedish massage, aromatherapy, reflexology, shiatsu, energy balancing, tuina Chinese medical massage, acupressure and craniosacral therapy along with other modalities in conjunction with instruction in nutrition, meditation and yoga. The term Myomassology was coined by Irene Gauthier to describe her combined work of Swedish massage, craniosacral therapy, reflexology and body mechanics.
Reciprocal inhibition involves locating specific muscles that are in spasm and then actively contracting the opposing muscle groups. This causes the tight muscles to reduce by limiting nervous system input, allowing relaxation and reducing pain. Reciprocal inhibition technique takes advantage of the neurological mechanism that exists naturally. It is effective in treating acute spasm and joint inflammation, especially in the lumbar and cervical spine.
Massage techniques such as sports massage, trigger point therapy and PNF stretching combined for an overall curative approach.
A few various techniques that are practiced on oneself, such as stroking the temples with strong pressure from front to back, rubbing the bottoms of the feet with one's knuckles or a wooden massage tool, and circular movement with thumb on palm of hand.
A massage by two or more therapist. It is occasionally called a four hand massage. Therapist usually work simultaneously in a rhythmic fashion providing a great relaxing stimuli on the nervous system.
One form is Mayan abdominal massage which is practiced in many countries in Latin America. This type of massage may have been developed by Elijio Panti of Belize and brought to the United States by Rosita Arvigo.
Zoku Shin Do is an ancient Chinese system of foot massage that claims to treat the foot as a system related to the whole body and stimulate energy flow.
I recommend that we consolidate all content concerning effectiveness in one section.
With respect to Shiatsu and acupressure, I recommend the following:
TheProfessor ( talk) 15:01, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
The assertion, "BC 493: A possible biblical reference documents daily "treatments" with oil of myrrh as a part of the beauty regimen of the wives of Xerxes (Esther, 2:12)", is mere speculation and, based on common Biblical uses for oil and myrrh as substances for anointing, is probably misrepresented here. The reference in no way enhances the article and its removal would not pose problems in my opinion. Ormr2014 ( talk) 03:31, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
Hand Massage-hand massage is Hand Massage! xD — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.200.29.214 ( talk) 12:45, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
They both have the same Main Article, could the sections be combined? Juno ( talk) 09:48, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
In terms of Aquatic bodywork and Watsu, we have a start here in the Massage article, and in the separate Watsu and Aquatic therapy articles. I'd like to flesh those out, especially Aquatic therapy. At some point, if I can pull together the sources, I'd like to write an Aquatic bodywork article. TheProfessor ( talk) 14:26, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
When I have some time I will hunt for more sources. Maybe there should be an article covering the different types of water-based massage? Juno ( talk) 09:59, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
Hello, I notice that the link to the Swedish Massage main article is circular and refers back to the paragraph in this article. I am unable to find it anywhere else on Wikipedia. Does such an article exist? If yes, can someone correct the link, and if no, is it not fairer to somehow indicate that the link goes nowhere?
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Anma is a traditional Japanese massage involving vigorous kneading, rubbing, tapping and shaking. It is commonly performed through clothing. Anma contributed significantly to the formation of shiatsu. citation needed
Balinese massage techniques are gentle and aim to make the patient feel relaxed and calm throughout. The techniques include skin folding, kneading, stroking, and other techniques. The massage therapist applies aromatherapy oil throughout the massage. A patient's blood, oxygen and energy flow is said to increase due to the treatment. Balinese hot stones are an options and easy .
Bowen technique involves a rolling movement over fascia, muscles, ligaments, tendons and joints. It is said not to involve deep or prolonged contact with muscle tissues as in most kinds of massage, but claims to relieve muscle tensions and strains and to restore normal lymphatic flow.
Breema bodywork is performed on the floor with the recipient fully clothed. It consists of rhythmical and gentle leans and stretches.
Champissage is a massage technique focusing on the head, neck and face that is believed to balance the chakras.
Esalen Massage was developed at the Esalen Institute based on a combination of many massage and bodywork techniques. The two main influences were Swedish massage and the Sensory Awareness work of Charlotte Selver. Esalen Massage works with gentle rocking of the body, passive joint exercises and deep structural work on the muscles and joints, together with an energetic balancing of the body.
Hilot is a traditional healing technique from the Philippines that uses massage, joint manipulations, and herbs such as banana leaves. Hilot is claimed to relax muscles, reset sprained joints, assess and treat musculoligamentous and musculoskeletal ailments, aid in giving birth and post-birth recovery for mother and baby, and to induce abortion.
Infant massage is a type of complementary and alternative treatment that uses massage therapy for human infants. This therapy has been practiced globally, and has been increasingly used in Western countries as a treatment for infants.
Kum Nye and sKu-mNyé are a wide variety of Tibetan religious and medical body practices. The two terms are different spellings in the Latin alphabet of the same Tibetan phrase (Wylie: sku mnye), which literally means "massage of the subtle body". Some systems of sku mnye are vaguely similar to Yoga, T'ai chi, Qigong, or therapeutic massage. "Kum Nye", Ku Nye, and Kunye are also used to transcribe the Tibetan phrases dku mnye ("belly massage") and bsku mnye ("oil massage"), which are pronounced identically to sku mnye. dKu mnye and bsku mnye manipulate the physical body, rather than the subtle (energetic) one.
The Metamorphic Technique is a gentle form of foot, hand and head massage that can be carried out by anyone with a brief training in the technique. It draws on reflexology in its theory and approach.
Neuromuscular therapy (NMT) is an approach to soft tissue manual therapy in which quasi-static pressure is applied to soft tissue to stimulate skeletal striated muscle.
Through applied knowledge of trigger points, neuromuscular therapy addresses postural distortion ( poor posture), biomechanical dysfunction, nerve compression syndrome, and ischemia.
In NMT, one must apply manual pressure perpendicular to the skin surface if muscle is to be stimulated.
Through a postural assessment the nerve root that is causing the problem is identified. By stimulating all of the muscles associated with a particular nerve root, the nervous system learns to send the proper signal to the muscles allowing them to respond and function properly – with a full range of motion and without tension and pain.
Pediatric massage is the complementary and alternative treatment that uses massage therapy, or "the manual manipulation of soft tissue intended to promote health and well-being" for children and adolescents.
Postural Integration is a process-oriented bodywork combining deep tissue massage with breathwork, body movement and awareness as well as emotional expression.
Prostate massage was once the most popular therapeutic maneuver used to treat prostatitis. According to the Prostatitis Foundation "it used to be, in the age before antibiotics (before about 1960 for prostatitis), doctors performed massage when their patients had prostatitis. In some cases it was enough to cure them of the disease. ... it fell out of common practice with the advent of antibiotics."
Reflexology is based on the principle that there are reflexes in the hands and feet that relate to every organ, gland, and system of the body.
Also known as manual therapy, manipulative therapy, or manual & manipulative therapy, this is a physical treatment primarily used on the neuromusculoskeletal system to treat pain and disability. It most commonly includes kneading and manipulation of muscles, joint mobilization and joint manipulation.
A stone massage uses cold or water-heated stones to apply pressure and heat to the body. Stones coated in oil can also be used by the therapist delivering various massaging strokes. The hot stones used are commonly Basalt stones (or lava rocks) which over time have become extremely polished and smooth. As the stones are placed along the recipient's back, they help to retain heat which then deeply penetrates into the muscles.
A massage technique popularized by the neotantra movement, and drawing on modern interpretations of tantra.
The Trager approach combines movement and touch, especially rocking and shaking, to educate the body/mind.
-- Jytdog ( talk) 18:38, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
Is there any literary or other evidence that massage in China dates back 5,000 years? That is a very long time. Also, what does "Western ideas are considered within the traditional framework" mean?
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I removed the entirely unsourced section on China and rewrote it. The RS I could conveniently find on the subject were a bit dry and industry related and also put a heavy focus on links with the sex trade. I welcome the addition of some information on the underlying traditions. If anyone could suggest some sources for this it would be appreciated. Online searches mostly link to commercial sites, which I’m reluctant to use. One source I would like is one that states that Chinese massage parlors often offer Chinese traditional medical treatments such as cupping. Edaham ( talk) 23:01, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
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Citation #25 is out of date; Alaska was forced to license in 2015 https://careertrend.com/list-6537675-states-not-require-massage-license.html As of 2014 there were 6, Kansas, Minnesota, Oklahoma, Vermont and Wyoming plus Alaska, but since then Alaska has required licensing. Serveral other sites colaborate with them https://www.google.com/search?q=what+states+do+not+require+a+license+to+massage&oq=what+&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i60l4j69i65.2222j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 & some have which have to have insurance to practice, if the state monitors for prostitution, and other things. Unicornsmom ( talk) 03:47, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
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Citation #57 Reflexology is a pseudoscience isn't true. By stimulation of nerves in hand/foot other non-direct location it has an effect on the connected nerve bundle along the way. TENS Units have their electrode pads placed on such positions to help with chronic or acute issues. Example: zapping a nerve near the achilles heel & ankle to help with incontances. I understand that it is difficult for some to believe stimulating the nerves between thumb and index finger can run up the arm & where it connects into the spine, have an effect that goes along the neck into the dental area alleviating pain; or massaging a location in the wrist/forearm area can result in less nausea or vomiting then ginger or medications; but repeatedly it has been found not just in traditional USA medical practice to be valid, but world round. The sights below all believe that reflexology is real, based on scientific facts, are an ancient form of healing, and help a person's overall wellness. There are more, but I thought I'd start with the basics to cover my point. https://www.webmd.com/balance/qa/what-is-reflexology-massage https://www.massageenvy.com/massage/massage-types/reflexology-massage/ https colon slash slash www dot Very Well Health dot com slash reflexology-what-you-need-to-know-89995 https://www.spafinder.com/blog/health-and-well-being/reflexology-101-treatment-benefits/ https://www.angieslist.com/articles/what-difference-between-reflexology-and-massage.htm
It has been in recent years we've seen how weather (SADS), magnetic forces (both from the earth itself and wearing a loadstone), certain metals(copper & nickel), and other forces of nature (like hemp or certain mushrooms have medicinal properties, while hemlock hurts most a tolerance can be built to it, & poison oak/ivy/sumac aren't pleasant for most people) can affect, effect, defect, and improve health in a person that were previously thought to be pseudoscience or "magic". The art of healing will always be changing, hopefully for the better & most natural. Unicornsmom ( talk) 05:50, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
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Many cars offer massage seats including many luxury cars
https://www.carmax.com/cars/seat-massagers https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison-test/a15119670/seat-massager-showdown-2012-jaguar-xjl-supersport-vs-2012-mercedes-benz-cl550-2012-audi-a8l-comparison-tests/ https://www.carthrottle.com/post/heres-whats-inside-one-of-mercedes-complex-massage-seats/ https://www.autobytel.com/car-buying-guides/features/10-vehicles-with-massage-seats-130517/ Xpartz ( talk) 10:07, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
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This article I am found References section 64 number - "Swedish Massage". Massagereister.com. Archived(https://archive.is/20120904080101/http://www.massageregister.com/western-massage/swedish-massage ) from the original --> ( http://www.massageregister.com/western-massage/swedish-massage) on 4 September 2012. Retrieved 18 October 2013. here - I am suggesting better new relevant content source link --> https://www.massagespaindia.com/blog/swedish-massage/ kindly update by checking my edit request. Thanks, I will be suggesting also other better new sources on another topic. I love to contribute to Wikipedia. Aadu2019 ( talk) 11:54, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
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Hi contributor,
I read your article and found lots of information about the massage. Its a very helpful to the users but when I was clicked on the reference 65 and open the reference page URL but that page was not relevant. I have a better fit for that reference hope you will read that and will add this as reference page. Current Reference URL. "Swedish Massage". Massagereister.com. Archived from the original on 4 September 2012. Retrieved 18 October 2013.
Suggested page for this https://www.massagetherapyschoolsinformation.com/swedish-massage/ Mohammad.shaan3 (talk) 06:47, 23 August 2019 (UTC) Mohammad.shaan3 ( talk) 09:35, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
This section currently includes three subsections that do not relate to the section itself. They are filler and should be removed. They might even suggest a need for 'non-therapeutic' or 'other' section.
Practitioner associations and official recognition of professionals is not related to the section and, furthermore, the content isn't even relevant to the subsection heading itself.
Associated methods lists various methods but there is no association to medical/therapeutic use.
Massage and proprioception is about a) how massage and proprioception are not associated and b) the association has been studied very little and c) increasing proprioception has not even been shown to be therapeutic. Arbalest Mike ( talk) 18:36, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
There is no coverage in this page of the means by which massage achieves its intended effect. That’s the thing I’m interested in. Willbown ( talk) 10:30, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
Stomach Massage with hand Taichi 119.56.111.80 ( talk) 02:50, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
1 leg on sofa, face front is a good massage therapy for back? 202.166.40.215 ( talk) 03:06, 24 June 2022 (UTC)