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My citing of the backlash to Mark Rober's partnership with NEXT for AUTISM was deleted for "POV pushing due to unreliable sources". I defend the presence of these sources:
The text itself is brief and neutrally mentions the existence of controversy. I would like to have it reinstated, though I'd accept a removal of the first source.
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Mark_Rober&diff=prev&oldid=1131871370&diffmode=source MaferPues ( talk) 20:13, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
Hello,
I recently added Rober's full name and birth date. However, they were both removed. I believe they should have stayed.
Firstly, the source I added for Rober's full name was removed for being from IMDb. However, it was actually from IMDbPro, instead of the normal IMDb. IMDbPro allows crew members to create their own resumes and use that to find work. This means that Rober himself would have put that name onto the page, meaning it passes WP:BLPPRIVACY and WP:BLPSPS, as it is "written or published by the subject of the article", and "published by [...] sources linked to the subject such that it may reasonably be inferred that the subject does not object to the details being made public". Due to this, I believe his full name should be allowed to stay on the page.
Next, his date of birth. The sources I used for that were the Wired article which was already on the page, and a tweet from Rober's official Twitter account. The Wired article is fine as it is a reliable source, and was already on the page. The Twitter source was removed because "Twitter is not usable". However, I believe that it is usable. It passes WP:DOB, as it is "published by [...] sources linked to the subject such that it may reasonably be inferred that the subject does not object to the details being made public."
Due to all of this, I believe that my additions should stay.
Thoughts? Strugglehouse ( talk) 16:10, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
Hello,
I posted about this before, but the conversation died down, so I have reopened this a new talk page post.
I have added Rober's full name and birth date a few times now, but they keep getting reverted by the same user. I believe they should remain.
Firstly, Rober's full name. The sources I added were a patent owned by Rober, this source from Inspirationfeed, and this source from Nairobi Wire. I am not sure if the patent passes WP:BLPPRIVACY, as I would assume this information has to be published publicly online. I also do not know if the other sources are reliable. I don't mind if Rober's middle name is not included because of these sources.
Next, his date of birth. The sources I used for that were the Wired article which was already on the page, as well as this tweet and this tweet from Rober's official Twitter account. The reliable Wired article was already on the page, and still is, so no discussion is required for that. The Twitter source was removed before because "Twitter is not usable", and just recently because I need to "have consensus". However, I believe that they are usable, and I am utterly confused as to why I need to seek consensus on the talk page for this. The sources pass WP:DOB, as they "published by [...] sources linked to the subject such that it may reasonably be inferred that the subject does not object to the details being made public," (i.e. Rober is posting these to his public Twitter account) and sources like this are used all over Wikipedia. Why do we need to seek consensus just for Rober?
Due to all of this, I believe that my additions (at least the DOB) should stay.
Thoughts? Strugglehouse ( talk) 11:20, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
Is there a way to add information on CrunchLabs? I am unable to edit the page as I am not an experienced editor. I would suggest adding the following, using the reference to Fast Company:
Rober is the co-founder of CrunchLabs, an educational technology company he launched in 2022. The company creates hands-on STEM learning experiences and subscription box services (CrunchLabs Build Box) that contain building projects and engineering challenges for kids.(
https://www.fastcompany.com/90770755/mark-rober-crunchlabs-most-creative-people-2022) (
https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2023/06/01/mit-mark-rober-youtube-2023-commencement/)
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I see that I needed to do more editing before being able to allowed this article. I went ahead and made the addition now. -- BConsEPL ( talk) 16:31, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
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Add an image to the "Early Career (NASA)" section of Mark Rober at JPL showcasing the instrument which he designed. The said image can be extracted from his Youtube video "NASA's Curiosity landing- 1 of her creator's POV", seen at the timestamp 2:43. This edit is merely a request and if denied, shall be accepted. Gyan2008 ( talk) 12:02, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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My citing of the backlash to Mark Rober's partnership with NEXT for AUTISM was deleted for "POV pushing due to unreliable sources". I defend the presence of these sources:
The text itself is brief and neutrally mentions the existence of controversy. I would like to have it reinstated, though I'd accept a removal of the first source.
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Mark_Rober&diff=prev&oldid=1131871370&diffmode=source MaferPues ( talk) 20:13, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
Hello,
I recently added Rober's full name and birth date. However, they were both removed. I believe they should have stayed.
Firstly, the source I added for Rober's full name was removed for being from IMDb. However, it was actually from IMDbPro, instead of the normal IMDb. IMDbPro allows crew members to create their own resumes and use that to find work. This means that Rober himself would have put that name onto the page, meaning it passes WP:BLPPRIVACY and WP:BLPSPS, as it is "written or published by the subject of the article", and "published by [...] sources linked to the subject such that it may reasonably be inferred that the subject does not object to the details being made public". Due to this, I believe his full name should be allowed to stay on the page.
Next, his date of birth. The sources I used for that were the Wired article which was already on the page, and a tweet from Rober's official Twitter account. The Wired article is fine as it is a reliable source, and was already on the page. The Twitter source was removed because "Twitter is not usable". However, I believe that it is usable. It passes WP:DOB, as it is "published by [...] sources linked to the subject such that it may reasonably be inferred that the subject does not object to the details being made public."
Due to all of this, I believe that my additions should stay.
Thoughts? Strugglehouse ( talk) 16:10, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
Hello,
I posted about this before, but the conversation died down, so I have reopened this a new talk page post.
I have added Rober's full name and birth date a few times now, but they keep getting reverted by the same user. I believe they should remain.
Firstly, Rober's full name. The sources I added were a patent owned by Rober, this source from Inspirationfeed, and this source from Nairobi Wire. I am not sure if the patent passes WP:BLPPRIVACY, as I would assume this information has to be published publicly online. I also do not know if the other sources are reliable. I don't mind if Rober's middle name is not included because of these sources.
Next, his date of birth. The sources I used for that were the Wired article which was already on the page, as well as this tweet and this tweet from Rober's official Twitter account. The reliable Wired article was already on the page, and still is, so no discussion is required for that. The Twitter source was removed before because "Twitter is not usable", and just recently because I need to "have consensus". However, I believe that they are usable, and I am utterly confused as to why I need to seek consensus on the talk page for this. The sources pass WP:DOB, as they "published by [...] sources linked to the subject such that it may reasonably be inferred that the subject does not object to the details being made public," (i.e. Rober is posting these to his public Twitter account) and sources like this are used all over Wikipedia. Why do we need to seek consensus just for Rober?
Due to all of this, I believe that my additions (at least the DOB) should stay.
Thoughts? Strugglehouse ( talk) 11:20, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
Is there a way to add information on CrunchLabs? I am unable to edit the page as I am not an experienced editor. I would suggest adding the following, using the reference to Fast Company:
Rober is the co-founder of CrunchLabs, an educational technology company he launched in 2022. The company creates hands-on STEM learning experiences and subscription box services (CrunchLabs Build Box) that contain building projects and engineering challenges for kids.(
https://www.fastcompany.com/90770755/mark-rober-crunchlabs-most-creative-people-2022) (
https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2023/06/01/mit-mark-rober-youtube-2023-commencement/)
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20:54, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
I see that I needed to do more editing before being able to allowed this article. I went ahead and made the addition now. -- BConsEPL ( talk) 16:31, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
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Add an image to the "Early Career (NASA)" section of Mark Rober at JPL showcasing the instrument which he designed. The said image can be extracted from his Youtube video "NASA's Curiosity landing- 1 of her creator's POV", seen at the timestamp 2:43. This edit is merely a request and if denied, shall be accepted. Gyan2008 ( talk) 12:02, 5 March 2024 (UTC)