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Would you think this should also be mentioned in the article?
http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_25058.aspx —Preceding
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The second section of the piece is just a list of real-life examples of a person biting a dog. I don't think it contributes anything to the article; I'd go so far as to say it's not relevant. 155.212.205.238 ( talk) 22:45, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
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Man Bites Dog (1992) [1] C'est arrivé près de chez vous (original title)
"Man Bites Dog" is a classic cult movie comedy from Belgium, playing on the sensationalist bias in TV journalism, when a documentary crew gets embroiled in the murders of the psychopath they're featuring.
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The result of the move request was: consensus to move both pages as proposed, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 08:45, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
– WP:DIFFCAPS / all other entries on the disambiguation page are uppercase. ZXCVBNM ( TALK) 16:04, 28 November 2019 (UTC) —Relisted. PI Ellsworth ed. put'r there 16:30, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
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Moved per cited policy and guideline and per general agreement below. ( nac by page mover) PI Ellsworth ed. put'r there 18:39, 9 December 2019 (UTC) |
The argument that the journalism is the only topic is based on policy ( WP:PRECISE) since all the other uses are called "Man Bites Dog", this is the only topic called "Man bites dog" so it unambiguously defines the topic and distinguishes it from others. So to quote you're words at Talk:Unlikely#Requested move 16 September 2018 "the one and only topic with that name". I agree however that SMALLDETAILS works less well when the more popular or important topic is at a harder to type title, see Talk:George Puscas (sports writer)#Requested move 1 December 2019 for example, but the guideline for it is "small details are usually sufficient to distinguish topics". As far as BUTIDONTKNOWABOUTIT goes I think that also supports the move since it asks what the average person is likely to know rather than those biased based on location or interest, this is also compliant with the "precise enough to be understood by most people" for the energy example in PRECISE. As far as PT#1 goes its probably not primary topic many readers probably wouldn't capitalize even when looking for proper nouns by by PT#2 its the only topic by this name and is likely primary by that criteria even if we disregard DIFFCAPS.". Crouch, Swale ( talk) 18:58, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
About this recent removal of examples of literal use, I think this material should be restored. It's not original research. These illustrative examples are educational for our readers, and improve the article. And about this, it should also be put back, in my view. "Dog shoots man" and "deer shoots man" are both related topics, and should be included here. — Mudwater ( Talk) 00:52, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
In 2000, the Santa Cruz Sentinel ran a story titled "Man bites dog" about a San Francisco man who bit his own dog.
To provide encyclopedic value, data should be put in context with explanations referenced to independent sources. Where’s the independent source putting these far-flung examples in context? What is the reader meant to learn from them? It’s just a numbing blister with no point. E Eng 03:35, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
Other interested editors are encouraged to post their views on this question. — Mudwater ( Talk) 00:45, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
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Would you think this should also be mentioned in the article?
http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_25058.aspx —Preceding
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The second section of the piece is just a list of real-life examples of a person biting a dog. I don't think it contributes anything to the article; I'd go so far as to say it's not relevant. 155.212.205.238 ( talk) 22:45, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
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Man Bites Dog (1992) [1] C'est arrivé près de chez vous (original title)
"Man Bites Dog" is a classic cult movie comedy from Belgium, playing on the sensationalist bias in TV journalism, when a documentary crew gets embroiled in the murders of the psychopath they're featuring.
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The result of the move request was: consensus to move both pages as proposed, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 08:45, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
– WP:DIFFCAPS / all other entries on the disambiguation page are uppercase. ZXCVBNM ( TALK) 16:04, 28 November 2019 (UTC) —Relisted. PI Ellsworth ed. put'r there 16:30, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
Previous closure
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Moved per cited policy and guideline and per general agreement below. ( nac by page mover) PI Ellsworth ed. put'r there 18:39, 9 December 2019 (UTC) |
The argument that the journalism is the only topic is based on policy ( WP:PRECISE) since all the other uses are called "Man Bites Dog", this is the only topic called "Man bites dog" so it unambiguously defines the topic and distinguishes it from others. So to quote you're words at Talk:Unlikely#Requested move 16 September 2018 "the one and only topic with that name". I agree however that SMALLDETAILS works less well when the more popular or important topic is at a harder to type title, see Talk:George Puscas (sports writer)#Requested move 1 December 2019 for example, but the guideline for it is "small details are usually sufficient to distinguish topics". As far as BUTIDONTKNOWABOUTIT goes I think that also supports the move since it asks what the average person is likely to know rather than those biased based on location or interest, this is also compliant with the "precise enough to be understood by most people" for the energy example in PRECISE. As far as PT#1 goes its probably not primary topic many readers probably wouldn't capitalize even when looking for proper nouns by by PT#2 its the only topic by this name and is likely primary by that criteria even if we disregard DIFFCAPS.". Crouch, Swale ( talk) 18:58, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
About this recent removal of examples of literal use, I think this material should be restored. It's not original research. These illustrative examples are educational for our readers, and improve the article. And about this, it should also be put back, in my view. "Dog shoots man" and "deer shoots man" are both related topics, and should be included here. — Mudwater ( Talk) 00:52, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
In 2000, the Santa Cruz Sentinel ran a story titled "Man bites dog" about a San Francisco man who bit his own dog.
To provide encyclopedic value, data should be put in context with explanations referenced to independent sources. Where’s the independent source putting these far-flung examples in context? What is the reader meant to learn from them? It’s just a numbing blister with no point. E Eng 03:35, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
Other interested editors are encouraged to post their views on this question. — Mudwater ( Talk) 00:45, 19 February 2020 (UTC)