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Just a hypothetical question, has anybody on Wikipedia ever gotten in to legal troubles for editing stuff? Like libel or something else? What about image copyrights? Just curious... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.112.233.165 ( talk) 06:53, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Read and Google WikiScanner to find out about hundreds of people and organizations that have gotten into hot water for anon editing that was vandalism or conflict of interest editing; from royalty in Europe to CIA to Australian politicians to some guy in the South African Gov't who was relieved of his job. WAS 4.250 19:50, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
"It's (sic) tuition is ridiculously high, too. Not to mention you get an awful education there.
They put more emphasis on sports than they do education. No wonder almost all kids there are complete idiots."
"As many have found, kids have gone unpunished for such crimes as verbal assault, physical abuse and alcohol and substance abuse."
Would you please fix it? Adam78 22:56, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Lets add a Featured Quote of the day! Tourskin 00:43, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Today's featured article | In the news |
Did you know... | On this day... |
EARL
Featured Quote | |
Did you know... | On this day... |
You see? Lord Dreamy § 02:06, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
The point of the main page is to feature the encyclopedia's content. A quote is not encyclopedia content. Plus, how would they be seleted? "*Support very intelligent sounding" and "*Oppose doesn't sound good"? That's rather subjective, as can be expected, since there is really no objective way to pick a quote. In conclusion, this isn't happening. Picaroon (t) 02:10, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
This wouldn't fit well, as wikipeida is not a repository of quotations. We have Wikiquote for that purpose. ff m 13:46, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
If you want to put something new on the main page, I think it would be a much better idea to do a "featured media" of the day - a movie or sound file, like the Media-of-the-day I set up on Commons. Raul654 02:13, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
unindent: I would suggest that since the Main Page belongs to all of the Wikipedia community, that this discussion will need much wider play than just here at Talk:Main Page. I would suggest posting a note at the Community Portal and the village Pump. For the record I ardently opppose the addition of anything to the Main Page, sounds, lists, doesn't matter. IvoShandor 21:45, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Right now, movies come under my jurisdiction at featured picture candidates because movie is a contraction of moving picture. There are only two featured movies, Image:Annie Oakley shooting glass balls, 1894.ogg (which I promoted today) and Image:Bombers of WW1.ogg. There are only 12 featured sounds, and featured sound candidates is a swampy backwater, complete with chirping crickets (now there's a good idea for a featured sound). In other words, we'll burn through the collection in 2 weeks.
The question of having a MOTD is irrelevant, because right now we cannot have one regardless of what the consensus is unless we up the promotion rate by three orders of magnitude. MER-C 12:12, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
To slightly modify, I suggest
Today's featured article | In the news |
Featured quote | Today's featured picture |
Did you know... | On this day... |
if you have to. If not... ~ user:orngjce223 how am I typing? 22:17, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Today's featured article | In the news |
Did you know... | On this day... |
Featured quote | Today's featured picture |
Since that way we'd be adding on the FQ (featured Quote) near the bottom as if its a new addition to the Main Page. A new quote in my opinion would be very informative - you know... what people in the past said. Tourskin 22:50, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Let Wikiquote have its quote of the day and Commons have its media of the day. Picture of the Day is even tenuous and highly duplicative with Commons, but I'm not about to suggest that section be removed - yet. The four main sections at Main Page play a direct role in showcasing and encouraging improvement in the encyclopedia (TFA - > better content, ITN -> currency, DYN -> expansion, OTD -> history, which binds all human knowledge). That said, a portal at en.wikimedia.org fed by RSS feeds from all Wikimedia projects in English would be a wonderful idea. But let's not have that portal here. -- mav 03:37, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
{end indent} I agree with mav, I would like a site that showcased most Wikimedia sites: quote, picture, article, book, course, animal, etc., etc. As to content, each site already chooses their own, so the same one for that day would be on the showcase page. Simple. Shir-El too 23:57, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't want to get into a fight with you, Tourskin, and I certainly don't want this to escalate into some month-long flamefest, but I'm not sure you quite understand what we mean by neutral. Quotable comments are frequently significant either because the position they advocate or how they reflect on the speaker. Quoting Gandhi or Hitler or Hobbes or Voltaire could easily be interpreted as Wikipedia endorsing the stance the quote is taking, which would be non-neutral of us. Quoting a " Bushism" or something similar could easily be interpreted as mocking the person being quoted, which would be non-neutral of us. Being "shocking" is far less of a problem than being "non-neutral." In fact, if the shocking information is educational, it isn't a problem at all. Atropos 23:12, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
I got lot of information from Wikipedia and it is my best Encyclopedia webpage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kayani007 ( talk • contribs) 18:03, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
I also have found a lot of valuable information from Wikipedia in just my first time of using this sight. It gave me some much needed information on just one issue. Thanks Wikipedia for being here for the one's that get what they are looking for. This is the best sight I've been introduced to and i'll use it for as long as it's here. Thank You!! (user CCradick) October 26, 2007. CCradick 02:22, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Be sure not to use Wikipedia as a reference for academic work. The academic community does not consider Wikipedia a reliable source for anything, ever. -- Haizum μολὼν λαβέ 00:49, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
For what it's worth, Wikipedia is a large part of research of various subjects both for school and work. Of course I don't cite Wikipedia itself, but I do site some of the citation that Wikipedia uses. It's a great project and can only be a positive contribution in someones life. 68.143.88.2 13:55, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Just wondering: What would we do if, for some reason, we ever wanted to create an encyclopaedia article named ' Main page'?? Not very likely, I know, but it's theoretically possible! (i.e. if something called 'Main page' became notable in its own right.) Let's just hope it never happens. :) Terraxos 01:43, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Disambiguation, I assume. -Killian
No, as the Main Page is not an article, it would be in the article namespace. Or if it was a book called "Main Page", the title would be Main Page (Book), and so on... Dreamy § 03:04, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
It actually happened that an anon asked a Help Desk question asking if we had an article about Main Pages... I pointed them to homepage (which is, alas, only a stub), but the location of the Main Page does make it quite hard to help this particular search using a redirect. I've advocated moving this page to Portal:Main Page (or Portal:Main for quite a while); that request failed to reach consensus last time, but perhaps the time would be ripe to try again in the near future. -- ais523 17:51, 30 October 2007 ( U T C)
I'm guessing that the timing was not coincidentual :). The only problem is that there is no picture? Must be the stupid fair-use / copyright people at it again :(. Seriously, why not just put a free pictures of a jack-o-lantern or something there to represent the FA since the cover art for the movie is pretty much a jackolantern??
(unindent)Actually he does, as the ?creator? of Wikipedia, his word is generally based on the MediaWiki Organization. Dreamy § 00:31, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Is it normal that my TFA has only been vandalised 2-3 times in four hours... has vandalism dropped off lately or something? Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 03:50, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
International Tennis player Martina Hingis failed a cocaine drugs test, and Wikipedia talks about The Red Sox winning a trophy. Americanipedia, great...... 217.65.158.13 13:51, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
I think it's a good idea to tie the sections of the main page together like this. — Zaui ( talk) 15:46, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
I am speaking way out of turn here, and of course I realise who the person in the picture is, but at least three of us (two non-wikipedia users and I) thought the picture thought the picture currently being displayed, with the play icon on it, was an indication that WP had been compormised for the potential purpose of political propoganda. (Trying not to say terrorism, and Arab). Could someone consider a more appropriate photograph?! Ade1982 00:41, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
I feel the exact same way, no offense. Play button gives a turban effect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Luddz ( talk • contribs) 08:34, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Of course, how silly of us. A man appears to be wearing a turban and looks to be of Arabian descent... it must be a terrorist or some kind of hacker spreading their propaganda through the Wikimedia Foundation donate page! Won't someone think of the children/domo-kun? Please, pick up a book... better still start here and read, read, read! Fakelvis 09:05, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm staring at it pretty hard right now, and while it looks a bit like Jimbo could have a longer beard than he does, I cannot make out anything that looks like a turban. The idea that that could be confused with a video by Osama bin Laden seems a bit silly to me. Atropos 14:20, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
You've gotta be freaking kidding me. Even if it was a turban and not a white circle play icon, how the hell does that make the wearer an Arab terrorist? Might they be a peaceful Sikh or one of the hundreds of millions (billions?) of non-terrorist turban wearers? (Trying not to say racist, and ignorant) — ceejayoz talk 22:36, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
yes Does the front page really need to mention where a sporting event will be held seven years from now? Let's try to make sure in the news is actually, you know, newsworthy. Looking at Portal:Current events, just about everything on it is more newsworthy than the location of a future sports event, and most of it is more relevant than the score of some recent sports event, also on in the news... Bushytails 17:42, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
As one person mentioned; "Children read this page" Well, in my opinion, children should read pages such as this in the presence of an adult. Perhaps when the child asks the adult why this is, the adult will be moved to do something to prevent it, instead of being shocked by it. Images in the real world are shocking. And they are also real. How shocked would you say a child in Bagdad would be on a daily basis? Or perhaps one in Mogadishu, or any number of places were war is the daily fare? They would be happy to see images on this page. Just so long as they were spared the sent of death, the tightness of dried blood on their skin, and the anguish of loss at the hands of people who would be "shocked" at seeing this on a web page. Life is hell, made so by people who are "Shocked" at the reality of it. Teach your children, don't shelter them from the world, or the pain of reality will be far more "Shocking" for them. NAeuroMUT 06:51, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be something about Musharraf declaring emergency rule in Pakistan? It's breaking news, and the BBC and CNN are currently showing it as the main news story on their web sites. Nanten 13:36, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
A somewhat controversial image, Image:Michele Merkin 1.jpg, was promoted to Featured Picture status some time ago, and now it's time for its day in the sun as POTD. User:Pharos suggested that we might talk up the benefits of this being a professional quality free-license image, even if such discussion were a bit self-referential. I've made an initial stab at it at User:Howcheng/MerkinPOTD. Comments are welcome at User talk:Howcheng/MerkinPOTD. Thanks. (cross-posted to WP:AN). howcheng { chat} 01:34, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Please fix this. BBC 1936 may have benn the first puplic Television service. It was not the first HDTV service. HDTV was invented a half-century later. - Arch dude 03:11, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
I was wondering if anyone can point me to the discussion that was had on whether the Main Page should be moved to Portal namespace. 60.229.9.172 09:17, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
No wonder no one takes wikipedia seriously. I know only FA status is needed to be Potd, but there should be some bias to offset the systemic bias wikipedia has. How many video games have been page of a day now, and now video game sites?-- 58.111.134.238 11:04, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Has anyone ever given any thought to making a separate tab (to go along with Discussion, edit this page, +, History and watch) for the Notes and References? I've noticed that they can take up a large chunk of an article at the bottom. Just my two cents. Txredcoat 13:03, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Which is what I was trying to get at. Dreamy § 02:36, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
This has nothing to do with the Main Page, which lists no references at the bottom. Please continue at WP:VP or elsewhere. -- 74.13.131.144 04:43, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
What determines how full the green donation bar is? Is it the number of people or the amount of money? Tourskin 19:51, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Money is an intresting thing. Some people have alot of it, others don't. Some people use to much of it, while others clean up the mess they make. Money is actually important as more and more things are being given prices. Things like getting braces, some may argue that it should be free for your child to have braces and i happen to be one of those people. Teeth are very important and with be with you for the rest of your life so the National Health people should pay for children to have braces no matter what. Some children havent been brought up with loads of money and have appauling teeth which need braces, but as they can not afford it, they have to live there lives with teeth that may cause alot of problems in the future. Others argue that the National Health is being sensible by not paying for everyone to have braces if needed, because if the children looked after there teeth, less of these issues would happen! User [PoppyH] Parent of two girls] If you argree with what i have said then please comment below! ( PoppyHitchen 15:49, 30 October 2007 (UTC))
I cannot believe that some ?? put such a picture as a "featured one" It is a shame to the so called free encyclopedia became a such racist place!! To be a balanced report why don't you also put a picture with a dead US white soldier? For that war, both sides lost a lot of young ones. none can be proud of it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.238.164.81 ( talk) 07:57, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
I don't find it racist, but it IS in poor taste, as have been several other Featured Pictures lately. We've had flagelated slaves, a child soldier, even pits of Holocaust victims. C'mon, folks, is it that hard to see how bad this makes Wikipedia look? It's one thing to find such images if you look for them, another to log in the site and have them trusted in our faces. - Wilfredo Martinez 15:01, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Lol I thought the featured pictured of an Iraqi man was racist, cos I am Iraqi by birth and blood and I don't look anything like that guy. lol Tourskin 06:32, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
The suggestion to follow the BBC guidelines is a good one, and should be raised at a variety of locations. This would not prevent pictures on such topics being featured - it would merely keep them off the front page. Before people get upset about that, they need to consider that most of Wikipedia's featured content will never appear on the main page. We long ago passed the point where featured content is being produced faster than it can be featured on the main page. Rather, we have to trust that readers will find their way from the main page to the various featured content locations. Carcharoth 08:05, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, it will picture of the day eventually. I can imagine it quite well, it will clog up half of the main page discussion, several "concerned parents" will threaten to sue Wikipedia for not protecting "my babies" from pornography, others will demand the banning of
howcheng. But honestly, let them whine, and pretend they know best. We don't have to come here, and defend our policies if we don't want to (while it is fun to read some of the comments).
Puchiko (
Talk-
email) 16:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
::::I don't think this attitude is acceptable (finding readers' anger over the main page content funny, and describing them as whining). I've taken this to your talk page.
Carcharoth
16:48, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
So, does anyone agree with the BBC guidelines? Carcharoth 21:57, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
The donation count has just messed up. 0 people have donated? It was a lot just five minutes ago. Josh —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.203.15.35 ( talk) 19:05, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Someone please fix this immediately. I have no idea where else to post this.-- Pharos 19:22, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Can't anyone please fix the donations error quickly? Harland1 19:25, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
You may have seen either the original list of the day proposal or the revised version. A more modest experimental proposal is now at issue at WP:LOTDP. Feel free to voice your opinion.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 18:01, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Please remove the picture of a dead Chinese soldier from the main page. It's common decency not to display a dead body in such a ghastly manner. Featuring this picture so prominently on the main page of Wikipedia offends the Chinese people and every fair-minded individual of any nationality. Being able to edit the main page of Wikipedia is a great responsibility, and I highly recommend anyone who has been entrusted with it to examine himself for any trace of vulgarity, insensitivity and prejudice as often as possible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hai Huang ( talk • contribs) 07:04, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Why can't we get nudes of chicks on the main page?! WHY?! -- Howard the Duck 09:20, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Today's All Souls' Day. It makes perfect sense. -- Howard the Duck 15:50, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
FYI, we've had dead white people, dead Jews, and dead Filipinos in recent months, so I think we can say that Wikipedia is racially/ethnically blind when it comes to showing pictures of corpses. howcheng { chat} 17:33, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Does this all mean that if I had created an article for this movie now instead of eighteen months ago, it could make it into Did You Know? Back then I was told that while "...Wikipedia is not censored, it also should not intentionally try to offend." Cigarette 20:26, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm curious as to why people think the image is racist against the Chinese soldier. Whenever I personaly see a war photograph that includes a corpse my first emotional response to to think negatively of whoever killed them. Why would anyone think negatively of the corpse? There's no shame in having died in a war. I would have expected far more accusations of racism if the photograph was of a white man killed by a Chinese solder. APL 18:57, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
The photo should not have been posted. The argument of those defending it is rubish. I don't think this has to do with censorship. You wouldn't want photos taken from shocksites, even if they were free and of high quality´, would you now? Or what about photos of tortured people, raped women, slaughtered babies? They address an important topic in our society and if they are of high quality, you will accept them, right? I say bull. -- Thus Spake Anittas 13:03, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
The Featured Picture criteria are
There is nothing there about how unshocking, inoffensive or tasteful a picture should be. And the comments about the content of the main page being different from the rest of the encyclopedia is pertinent — the main page's content is decided by a nomination and approval process. Other pages are not. Bazza 14:28, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
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Just a hypothetical question, has anybody on Wikipedia ever gotten in to legal troubles for editing stuff? Like libel or something else? What about image copyrights? Just curious... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.112.233.165 ( talk) 06:53, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Read and Google WikiScanner to find out about hundreds of people and organizations that have gotten into hot water for anon editing that was vandalism or conflict of interest editing; from royalty in Europe to CIA to Australian politicians to some guy in the South African Gov't who was relieved of his job. WAS 4.250 19:50, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
"It's (sic) tuition is ridiculously high, too. Not to mention you get an awful education there.
They put more emphasis on sports than they do education. No wonder almost all kids there are complete idiots."
"As many have found, kids have gone unpunished for such crimes as verbal assault, physical abuse and alcohol and substance abuse."
Would you please fix it? Adam78 22:56, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Lets add a Featured Quote of the day! Tourskin 00:43, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Today's featured article | In the news |
Did you know... | On this day... |
EARL
Featured Quote | |
Did you know... | On this day... |
You see? Lord Dreamy § 02:06, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
The point of the main page is to feature the encyclopedia's content. A quote is not encyclopedia content. Plus, how would they be seleted? "*Support very intelligent sounding" and "*Oppose doesn't sound good"? That's rather subjective, as can be expected, since there is really no objective way to pick a quote. In conclusion, this isn't happening. Picaroon (t) 02:10, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
This wouldn't fit well, as wikipeida is not a repository of quotations. We have Wikiquote for that purpose. ff m 13:46, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
If you want to put something new on the main page, I think it would be a much better idea to do a "featured media" of the day - a movie or sound file, like the Media-of-the-day I set up on Commons. Raul654 02:13, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
unindent: I would suggest that since the Main Page belongs to all of the Wikipedia community, that this discussion will need much wider play than just here at Talk:Main Page. I would suggest posting a note at the Community Portal and the village Pump. For the record I ardently opppose the addition of anything to the Main Page, sounds, lists, doesn't matter. IvoShandor 21:45, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Right now, movies come under my jurisdiction at featured picture candidates because movie is a contraction of moving picture. There are only two featured movies, Image:Annie Oakley shooting glass balls, 1894.ogg (which I promoted today) and Image:Bombers of WW1.ogg. There are only 12 featured sounds, and featured sound candidates is a swampy backwater, complete with chirping crickets (now there's a good idea for a featured sound). In other words, we'll burn through the collection in 2 weeks.
The question of having a MOTD is irrelevant, because right now we cannot have one regardless of what the consensus is unless we up the promotion rate by three orders of magnitude. MER-C 12:12, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
To slightly modify, I suggest
Today's featured article | In the news |
Featured quote | Today's featured picture |
Did you know... | On this day... |
if you have to. If not... ~ user:orngjce223 how am I typing? 22:17, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Today's featured article | In the news |
Did you know... | On this day... |
Featured quote | Today's featured picture |
Since that way we'd be adding on the FQ (featured Quote) near the bottom as if its a new addition to the Main Page. A new quote in my opinion would be very informative - you know... what people in the past said. Tourskin 22:50, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Let Wikiquote have its quote of the day and Commons have its media of the day. Picture of the Day is even tenuous and highly duplicative with Commons, but I'm not about to suggest that section be removed - yet. The four main sections at Main Page play a direct role in showcasing and encouraging improvement in the encyclopedia (TFA - > better content, ITN -> currency, DYN -> expansion, OTD -> history, which binds all human knowledge). That said, a portal at en.wikimedia.org fed by RSS feeds from all Wikimedia projects in English would be a wonderful idea. But let's not have that portal here. -- mav 03:37, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
{end indent} I agree with mav, I would like a site that showcased most Wikimedia sites: quote, picture, article, book, course, animal, etc., etc. As to content, each site already chooses their own, so the same one for that day would be on the showcase page. Simple. Shir-El too 23:57, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't want to get into a fight with you, Tourskin, and I certainly don't want this to escalate into some month-long flamefest, but I'm not sure you quite understand what we mean by neutral. Quotable comments are frequently significant either because the position they advocate or how they reflect on the speaker. Quoting Gandhi or Hitler or Hobbes or Voltaire could easily be interpreted as Wikipedia endorsing the stance the quote is taking, which would be non-neutral of us. Quoting a " Bushism" or something similar could easily be interpreted as mocking the person being quoted, which would be non-neutral of us. Being "shocking" is far less of a problem than being "non-neutral." In fact, if the shocking information is educational, it isn't a problem at all. Atropos 23:12, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
I got lot of information from Wikipedia and it is my best Encyclopedia webpage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kayani007 ( talk • contribs) 18:03, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
I also have found a lot of valuable information from Wikipedia in just my first time of using this sight. It gave me some much needed information on just one issue. Thanks Wikipedia for being here for the one's that get what they are looking for. This is the best sight I've been introduced to and i'll use it for as long as it's here. Thank You!! (user CCradick) October 26, 2007. CCradick 02:22, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Be sure not to use Wikipedia as a reference for academic work. The academic community does not consider Wikipedia a reliable source for anything, ever. -- Haizum μολὼν λαβέ 00:49, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
For what it's worth, Wikipedia is a large part of research of various subjects both for school and work. Of course I don't cite Wikipedia itself, but I do site some of the citation that Wikipedia uses. It's a great project and can only be a positive contribution in someones life. 68.143.88.2 13:55, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Just wondering: What would we do if, for some reason, we ever wanted to create an encyclopaedia article named ' Main page'?? Not very likely, I know, but it's theoretically possible! (i.e. if something called 'Main page' became notable in its own right.) Let's just hope it never happens. :) Terraxos 01:43, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Disambiguation, I assume. -Killian
No, as the Main Page is not an article, it would be in the article namespace. Or if it was a book called "Main Page", the title would be Main Page (Book), and so on... Dreamy § 03:04, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
It actually happened that an anon asked a Help Desk question asking if we had an article about Main Pages... I pointed them to homepage (which is, alas, only a stub), but the location of the Main Page does make it quite hard to help this particular search using a redirect. I've advocated moving this page to Portal:Main Page (or Portal:Main for quite a while); that request failed to reach consensus last time, but perhaps the time would be ripe to try again in the near future. -- ais523 17:51, 30 October 2007 ( U T C)
I'm guessing that the timing was not coincidentual :). The only problem is that there is no picture? Must be the stupid fair-use / copyright people at it again :(. Seriously, why not just put a free pictures of a jack-o-lantern or something there to represent the FA since the cover art for the movie is pretty much a jackolantern??
(unindent)Actually he does, as the ?creator? of Wikipedia, his word is generally based on the MediaWiki Organization. Dreamy § 00:31, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Is it normal that my TFA has only been vandalised 2-3 times in four hours... has vandalism dropped off lately or something? Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 03:50, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
International Tennis player Martina Hingis failed a cocaine drugs test, and Wikipedia talks about The Red Sox winning a trophy. Americanipedia, great...... 217.65.158.13 13:51, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
I think it's a good idea to tie the sections of the main page together like this. — Zaui ( talk) 15:46, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
I am speaking way out of turn here, and of course I realise who the person in the picture is, but at least three of us (two non-wikipedia users and I) thought the picture thought the picture currently being displayed, with the play icon on it, was an indication that WP had been compormised for the potential purpose of political propoganda. (Trying not to say terrorism, and Arab). Could someone consider a more appropriate photograph?! Ade1982 00:41, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
I feel the exact same way, no offense. Play button gives a turban effect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Luddz ( talk • contribs) 08:34, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Of course, how silly of us. A man appears to be wearing a turban and looks to be of Arabian descent... it must be a terrorist or some kind of hacker spreading their propaganda through the Wikimedia Foundation donate page! Won't someone think of the children/domo-kun? Please, pick up a book... better still start here and read, read, read! Fakelvis 09:05, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm staring at it pretty hard right now, and while it looks a bit like Jimbo could have a longer beard than he does, I cannot make out anything that looks like a turban. The idea that that could be confused with a video by Osama bin Laden seems a bit silly to me. Atropos 14:20, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
You've gotta be freaking kidding me. Even if it was a turban and not a white circle play icon, how the hell does that make the wearer an Arab terrorist? Might they be a peaceful Sikh or one of the hundreds of millions (billions?) of non-terrorist turban wearers? (Trying not to say racist, and ignorant) — ceejayoz talk 22:36, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
yes Does the front page really need to mention where a sporting event will be held seven years from now? Let's try to make sure in the news is actually, you know, newsworthy. Looking at Portal:Current events, just about everything on it is more newsworthy than the location of a future sports event, and most of it is more relevant than the score of some recent sports event, also on in the news... Bushytails 17:42, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
As one person mentioned; "Children read this page" Well, in my opinion, children should read pages such as this in the presence of an adult. Perhaps when the child asks the adult why this is, the adult will be moved to do something to prevent it, instead of being shocked by it. Images in the real world are shocking. And they are also real. How shocked would you say a child in Bagdad would be on a daily basis? Or perhaps one in Mogadishu, or any number of places were war is the daily fare? They would be happy to see images on this page. Just so long as they were spared the sent of death, the tightness of dried blood on their skin, and the anguish of loss at the hands of people who would be "shocked" at seeing this on a web page. Life is hell, made so by people who are "Shocked" at the reality of it. Teach your children, don't shelter them from the world, or the pain of reality will be far more "Shocking" for them. NAeuroMUT 06:51, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be something about Musharraf declaring emergency rule in Pakistan? It's breaking news, and the BBC and CNN are currently showing it as the main news story on their web sites. Nanten 13:36, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
A somewhat controversial image, Image:Michele Merkin 1.jpg, was promoted to Featured Picture status some time ago, and now it's time for its day in the sun as POTD. User:Pharos suggested that we might talk up the benefits of this being a professional quality free-license image, even if such discussion were a bit self-referential. I've made an initial stab at it at User:Howcheng/MerkinPOTD. Comments are welcome at User talk:Howcheng/MerkinPOTD. Thanks. (cross-posted to WP:AN). howcheng { chat} 01:34, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Please fix this. BBC 1936 may have benn the first puplic Television service. It was not the first HDTV service. HDTV was invented a half-century later. - Arch dude 03:11, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
I was wondering if anyone can point me to the discussion that was had on whether the Main Page should be moved to Portal namespace. 60.229.9.172 09:17, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
No wonder no one takes wikipedia seriously. I know only FA status is needed to be Potd, but there should be some bias to offset the systemic bias wikipedia has. How many video games have been page of a day now, and now video game sites?-- 58.111.134.238 11:04, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Has anyone ever given any thought to making a separate tab (to go along with Discussion, edit this page, +, History and watch) for the Notes and References? I've noticed that they can take up a large chunk of an article at the bottom. Just my two cents. Txredcoat 13:03, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Which is what I was trying to get at. Dreamy § 02:36, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
This has nothing to do with the Main Page, which lists no references at the bottom. Please continue at WP:VP or elsewhere. -- 74.13.131.144 04:43, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
What determines how full the green donation bar is? Is it the number of people or the amount of money? Tourskin 19:51, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Money is an intresting thing. Some people have alot of it, others don't. Some people use to much of it, while others clean up the mess they make. Money is actually important as more and more things are being given prices. Things like getting braces, some may argue that it should be free for your child to have braces and i happen to be one of those people. Teeth are very important and with be with you for the rest of your life so the National Health people should pay for children to have braces no matter what. Some children havent been brought up with loads of money and have appauling teeth which need braces, but as they can not afford it, they have to live there lives with teeth that may cause alot of problems in the future. Others argue that the National Health is being sensible by not paying for everyone to have braces if needed, because if the children looked after there teeth, less of these issues would happen! User [PoppyH] Parent of two girls] If you argree with what i have said then please comment below! ( PoppyHitchen 15:49, 30 October 2007 (UTC))
I cannot believe that some ?? put such a picture as a "featured one" It is a shame to the so called free encyclopedia became a such racist place!! To be a balanced report why don't you also put a picture with a dead US white soldier? For that war, both sides lost a lot of young ones. none can be proud of it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.238.164.81 ( talk) 07:57, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
I don't find it racist, but it IS in poor taste, as have been several other Featured Pictures lately. We've had flagelated slaves, a child soldier, even pits of Holocaust victims. C'mon, folks, is it that hard to see how bad this makes Wikipedia look? It's one thing to find such images if you look for them, another to log in the site and have them trusted in our faces. - Wilfredo Martinez 15:01, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Lol I thought the featured pictured of an Iraqi man was racist, cos I am Iraqi by birth and blood and I don't look anything like that guy. lol Tourskin 06:32, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
The suggestion to follow the BBC guidelines is a good one, and should be raised at a variety of locations. This would not prevent pictures on such topics being featured - it would merely keep them off the front page. Before people get upset about that, they need to consider that most of Wikipedia's featured content will never appear on the main page. We long ago passed the point where featured content is being produced faster than it can be featured on the main page. Rather, we have to trust that readers will find their way from the main page to the various featured content locations. Carcharoth 08:05, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, it will picture of the day eventually. I can imagine it quite well, it will clog up half of the main page discussion, several "concerned parents" will threaten to sue Wikipedia for not protecting "my babies" from pornography, others will demand the banning of
howcheng. But honestly, let them whine, and pretend they know best. We don't have to come here, and defend our policies if we don't want to (while it is fun to read some of the comments).
Puchiko (
Talk-
email) 16:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
::::I don't think this attitude is acceptable (finding readers' anger over the main page content funny, and describing them as whining). I've taken this to your talk page.
Carcharoth
16:48, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
So, does anyone agree with the BBC guidelines? Carcharoth 21:57, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
The donation count has just messed up. 0 people have donated? It was a lot just five minutes ago. Josh —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.203.15.35 ( talk) 19:05, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Someone please fix this immediately. I have no idea where else to post this.-- Pharos 19:22, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Can't anyone please fix the donations error quickly? Harland1 19:25, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
You may have seen either the original list of the day proposal or the revised version. A more modest experimental proposal is now at issue at WP:LOTDP. Feel free to voice your opinion.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 18:01, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Please remove the picture of a dead Chinese soldier from the main page. It's common decency not to display a dead body in such a ghastly manner. Featuring this picture so prominently on the main page of Wikipedia offends the Chinese people and every fair-minded individual of any nationality. Being able to edit the main page of Wikipedia is a great responsibility, and I highly recommend anyone who has been entrusted with it to examine himself for any trace of vulgarity, insensitivity and prejudice as often as possible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hai Huang ( talk • contribs) 07:04, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Why can't we get nudes of chicks on the main page?! WHY?! -- Howard the Duck 09:20, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Today's All Souls' Day. It makes perfect sense. -- Howard the Duck 15:50, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
FYI, we've had dead white people, dead Jews, and dead Filipinos in recent months, so I think we can say that Wikipedia is racially/ethnically blind when it comes to showing pictures of corpses. howcheng { chat} 17:33, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Does this all mean that if I had created an article for this movie now instead of eighteen months ago, it could make it into Did You Know? Back then I was told that while "...Wikipedia is not censored, it also should not intentionally try to offend." Cigarette 20:26, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm curious as to why people think the image is racist against the Chinese soldier. Whenever I personaly see a war photograph that includes a corpse my first emotional response to to think negatively of whoever killed them. Why would anyone think negatively of the corpse? There's no shame in having died in a war. I would have expected far more accusations of racism if the photograph was of a white man killed by a Chinese solder. APL 18:57, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
The photo should not have been posted. The argument of those defending it is rubish. I don't think this has to do with censorship. You wouldn't want photos taken from shocksites, even if they were free and of high quality´, would you now? Or what about photos of tortured people, raped women, slaughtered babies? They address an important topic in our society and if they are of high quality, you will accept them, right? I say bull. -- Thus Spake Anittas 13:03, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
The Featured Picture criteria are
There is nothing there about how unshocking, inoffensive or tasteful a picture should be. And the comments about the content of the main page being different from the rest of the encyclopedia is pertinent — the main page's content is decided by a nomination and approval process. Other pages are not. Bazza 14:28, 7 November 2007 (UTC)