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I am sure that she has done a lot more than listed.
Peter Pan - when did she play Peter ? -- Beardo 13:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
She played Peter Pan in the play Peter Pan on the London stage in 1973. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:1210:8A9E:9F00:485E:900C:2B19:9DA5 ( talk) 11:05, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
Ah bless! I hadn't the heart to delete the entry under her personal life which states that Maggie is a good friend of Francesco da Mosta, though I'm not sure that I shouldn't have. Yes, I saw the BBC programme where Maggie appears from the statuary, replete with Baudaker, and is air-kissed to death by dear Francesco...but he said himself that she is mostly"...a good friend of his wife's mother." Should we also add that she is good friends with Judi Dench, or was pally with Kenneth Williams, or was even more intimate with Rod Taylor? Surely of much more interest....
MARC & NATASHA Ygrasil 03:21, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Her filmography is incomplete- I added her role in The Honey Pot, but I believe there are others. Also, is the line "Her portrayal of Professor McGonnagall may be regarded as flawless." really objective or unbiased?
Her production list is of very poor quality. She has done so much more than what is listed there. It'll probably end up being me who gets round to sorting it out, it always is - I'm constantly doing 20 things at once on this site... Lra drama 07:58, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
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I have changed English to British as her mother was scottish. Besides techically there are no "English" and there hasnt been for over 300 years. British is the official nationality of anyone born within the United Kingdom. -- Camaeron 13:27, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Didn't she have a cameo in Rush Hour 304:02, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
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Smith was born in Ilford, then Essex...
So she was born in Ilford first, and later in Essex? Or Ilford was first in Essex, and later it wasn't? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.129.49.238 ( talk) 06:11, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Smith's page has been updated to reflect a date of death of October 12, 2009 but there is no sourcing and I have not been able to find information to substantiate this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.32.174.113 ( talk) 10:28, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
The link under the Awards section, < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Maggie_Smith>, redirects to the Maggie Smith article itself. 67.233.156.206 ( talk) 08:44, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
It seems Smith has not appeared at Emmy and Oscar shows to collect her awards. Is this notable? TGCP ( talk) 19:24, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
Is there any reference to show that she ever uses this title? Also, the infobox is headed "Dame Maggie Smith", a formula we seem at pains to avoid in the lede. We have to sort this out. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 19:47, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
Listed in ehr filmography but she was not in part 1. If she filmed any scenes, they were not used, so either "Scenes deleted" needs to added in notes or this film removed. 12.162.122.5 ( talk) 19:13, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
Can someone find a new picture for her FFS? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.225.158.89 ( talk) 02:57, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
The current picture is just awful; doesn't even look like her. Surely someone can come up with something better than that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.1.128.87 ( talk) 01:39, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Could someone please reword the following sentence:
"She married actor Robert Stephens on 29 June 1967 at Greenwich Register Office, ten days after their first child was born."
Does this mean that:
I don't know the answer so if someone could reword to reflect the clear meaning that'd be great. matt ( talk) 21:17, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
Born in Essex, raised in Oxford. father English, mother a Scot. I'd say 'British' is appropriate but we go by 'due weight' of 'reliable sources'. If someone would like to demonstrate that such sources refer to her, overwhelmingly, as English, not British I'd certainly like to see the list. (Google is your friend here). AnonNep ( talk) 15:09, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
You guys are doing her dirty with that photo. Surely there exists a more flattering photo of the Dame! Jesus h christ people. 158.140.195.209 ( talk) 08:07, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
"On The Graham Norton Show in 2015 Smith admitted that Olivier had slapped Smith across the face during a production of Othello in 1964." English is not my first language so there is a decent chance I'm missing something, but it does strike me as a bit odd to say she admitted it. I feel that implies some sort of wrong-doing on her part and I can't see any context that would clarify that. If she had insisted that they had a perfectly fine relationship, for example. 2A02:8071:B84:3BC0:F128:4240:923D:AE6D ( talk) 09:30, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
During a different show—in a scene in which Othello scuffles with Desdemona—Olivier actually struck Smith across the face. “He did knock me out,” Smith says. “I was left with some black marks [from his makeup] on my face.” But once the curtain closed that evening, Smith got the last laugh: “I did say it was the only time I saw stars at the National Theatre.”
@ The One I Left, I just wanted to discuss where Smith's awards should be mentioned in the lead. To me it makes sense to leave them out of the lead paragraph, instead mentioning her Academy Awards in juxtaposition with her film work, her Emmy Awards in relation to her television work, and the remainder in the fourth paragraph. It might be worth noting that the article on Laurence Olivier, which is featured, doesn't mention his awards in the lead paragraph either, although I don't think there's any particular policy about where they should go. A.D.Hope ( talk) 12:21, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
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I am sure that she has done a lot more than listed.
Peter Pan - when did she play Peter ? -- Beardo 13:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
She played Peter Pan in the play Peter Pan on the London stage in 1973. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:1210:8A9E:9F00:485E:900C:2B19:9DA5 ( talk) 11:05, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
Ah bless! I hadn't the heart to delete the entry under her personal life which states that Maggie is a good friend of Francesco da Mosta, though I'm not sure that I shouldn't have. Yes, I saw the BBC programme where Maggie appears from the statuary, replete with Baudaker, and is air-kissed to death by dear Francesco...but he said himself that she is mostly"...a good friend of his wife's mother." Should we also add that she is good friends with Judi Dench, or was pally with Kenneth Williams, or was even more intimate with Rod Taylor? Surely of much more interest....
MARC & NATASHA Ygrasil 03:21, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Her filmography is incomplete- I added her role in The Honey Pot, but I believe there are others. Also, is the line "Her portrayal of Professor McGonnagall may be regarded as flawless." really objective or unbiased?
Her production list is of very poor quality. She has done so much more than what is listed there. It'll probably end up being me who gets round to sorting it out, it always is - I'm constantly doing 20 things at once on this site... Lra drama 07:58, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
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I have changed English to British as her mother was scottish. Besides techically there are no "English" and there hasnt been for over 300 years. British is the official nationality of anyone born within the United Kingdom. -- Camaeron 13:27, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Didn't she have a cameo in Rush Hour 304:02, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
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Smith was born in Ilford, then Essex...
So she was born in Ilford first, and later in Essex? Or Ilford was first in Essex, and later it wasn't? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.129.49.238 ( talk) 06:11, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Smith's page has been updated to reflect a date of death of October 12, 2009 but there is no sourcing and I have not been able to find information to substantiate this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.32.174.113 ( talk) 10:28, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
The link under the Awards section, < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Maggie_Smith>, redirects to the Maggie Smith article itself. 67.233.156.206 ( talk) 08:44, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
It seems Smith has not appeared at Emmy and Oscar shows to collect her awards. Is this notable? TGCP ( talk) 19:24, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
Is there any reference to show that she ever uses this title? Also, the infobox is headed "Dame Maggie Smith", a formula we seem at pains to avoid in the lede. We have to sort this out. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 19:47, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
Listed in ehr filmography but she was not in part 1. If she filmed any scenes, they were not used, so either "Scenes deleted" needs to added in notes or this film removed. 12.162.122.5 ( talk) 19:13, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
Can someone find a new picture for her FFS? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.225.158.89 ( talk) 02:57, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
The current picture is just awful; doesn't even look like her. Surely someone can come up with something better than that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.1.128.87 ( talk) 01:39, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Could someone please reword the following sentence:
"She married actor Robert Stephens on 29 June 1967 at Greenwich Register Office, ten days after their first child was born."
Does this mean that:
I don't know the answer so if someone could reword to reflect the clear meaning that'd be great. matt ( talk) 21:17, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
Born in Essex, raised in Oxford. father English, mother a Scot. I'd say 'British' is appropriate but we go by 'due weight' of 'reliable sources'. If someone would like to demonstrate that such sources refer to her, overwhelmingly, as English, not British I'd certainly like to see the list. (Google is your friend here). AnonNep ( talk) 15:09, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
You guys are doing her dirty with that photo. Surely there exists a more flattering photo of the Dame! Jesus h christ people. 158.140.195.209 ( talk) 08:07, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
"On The Graham Norton Show in 2015 Smith admitted that Olivier had slapped Smith across the face during a production of Othello in 1964." English is not my first language so there is a decent chance I'm missing something, but it does strike me as a bit odd to say she admitted it. I feel that implies some sort of wrong-doing on her part and I can't see any context that would clarify that. If she had insisted that they had a perfectly fine relationship, for example. 2A02:8071:B84:3BC0:F128:4240:923D:AE6D ( talk) 09:30, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
During a different show—in a scene in which Othello scuffles with Desdemona—Olivier actually struck Smith across the face. “He did knock me out,” Smith says. “I was left with some black marks [from his makeup] on my face.” But once the curtain closed that evening, Smith got the last laugh: “I did say it was the only time I saw stars at the National Theatre.”
@ The One I Left, I just wanted to discuss where Smith's awards should be mentioned in the lead. To me it makes sense to leave them out of the lead paragraph, instead mentioning her Academy Awards in juxtaposition with her film work, her Emmy Awards in relation to her television work, and the remainder in the fourth paragraph. It might be worth noting that the article on Laurence Olivier, which is featured, doesn't mention his awards in the lead paragraph either, although I don't think there's any particular policy about where they should go. A.D.Hope ( talk) 12:21, 20 December 2023 (UTC)