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I boldly changed the infobox image from File:Madonna à Nice 30 2.jpg to File:Madonna à Nice 9.jpg – a photo of the same concert on the same date – feeling the former to be too grainy and low-quality. The change was immediately reverted, so here we are. Granted, the latter image is not the most flattering shot of Madonna (IMO, neither is the former/current image) but I do think it is noticeably better quality with less graininess.
In addition to the MDNA cheerleader outfit picture, I would also like editors to consider File:Madonna at the premiere of I Am Because We Are.jpg, which is a much more viable image as it is of excellent quality. This picture was shut down by a few editors during the last infobox image discussion for being "too old," though the picture is only from 2008 and Madonna has not drastically changed in appearance since then. Additionally, WP:LEADIMAGE does not make any point about using the most recent image available of a person. Its only requirements are that lead images serve as "natural and appropriate visual representations of the topic." It also says that such images "should also be the type of image that is used for similar purposes in high-quality reference works;" its higher quality puts it more in line with the type of image we would see in a high-quality reference work about Madonna.
Please state your preference below with reasoning as necessary. – Chase ( talk / contribs) 00:40, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
(←) In the face of already-overwhelming preference for the third picture, I will go ahead and add a slightly cropped version of it to the infobox. Any further comments can be directed below. – Chase ( talk / contribs) 17:22, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
What stuns me is the shortage of public domain Madonna images available. We're talking about the world's best-selling recording artist here, and it's all the choice we have? Could one please elaborate some more on what constitutes a public domain image? Madonna's been active since 1978, played in two bands, did some acting, then released her first single in 1982. There must be a lot more such images available for us to use. I'm personally sick of Option 3. It's a real nice picture, but we've seen it enough.
Shame we can't use official Madonna promo pics such as this one: http://images1.miaminewtimes.com/imager/u/original/7543458/madonna_rebel_heart_tour_dates_2015.jpg Israell ( talk) 03:00, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
I have a question, what is the different between this official source by her record title: Most Sucessful Female vs Best-selling female. Are the same or different record?. Regards, Chrishonduras ( talk) 16:44, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
How can she have a legacy considering she's not, well, dead? Kirschkuchen ( talk) 23:43, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
OK, I just added this [1] and got reverted [2]. I'm not familiar with what happened here before, but no where in the article is it explained why we are referring to her using her first name throughout. No where is it said that she adopted 'Madonna' as her stage name. Can we PLEASE have something that indicates that she has adopted Madonna as her stage name? Instead we have just assumed that 'everyone knows', which is not OK for an encyclopedia. Darx9url ( talk) 11:21, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
I wanted to propose if we could switch (yet again) the infobox picture; don't think bad of me, I think the current one is fine but it's clearly been just cropped out of the full WTG one and is not the best resolution or quality. I I came across and uploaded these ones from flickr; and they're really good quality and Madonna looks good in them, so perhaps we can use one of these. Of course, we could also keep that one but crop it correctly from the parent picture. P: -- Chrishm21 ( talk) 19:49, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
"Awful duck lips"... That's body shaming. Madonna's lips are fine! We're not here to judge or critique her looks and physique but choose a suitable photo for the lead, and I don't see why as the previous photo (RHT-WTG performance) was just fine! Israell ( talk) 08:22, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
What do you mean "humiliating"? Israell ( talk) 08:22, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Here's another one. Front view of her face in neutral expression. -- Triggerhippie4 ( talk) 22:08, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
Excuse the wording bu she looks drunk here. — Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 09:40, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
Here are some more from flickr; some of them are very good (IMO) all that'd be needed is for an user to crop them to an appropriate size. I'm particularly fond of Option 14
-- Chrishm21 ( talk) 17:46, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
This photo was fine! https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Madonna_%28entertainer%29&diff=697767597&oldid=697764478#/media/File:Rebel_Heart_WTG_%283%29.jpg Why wasn't it included in the poll? Aren't you editors sick of Option 7? Very nice picture, but is this the ONLY photo we can use??? Tell me it's a joke. Israell ( talk) 08:22, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
What about we redo the vote and include the WTG picture? Israell ( talk) 08:27, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Having personal details (marriages, etc) scattered through professional career is unwieldy, and most celeb biographical articles have these split out. Dfoofnik ( talk) 18:04, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
My two cents: I noted that this topic its a debate over the time. I believe that we can create a section of her personal life and relationships (even if its already mentioned in the articles' body, "apparently"). The reason its simple: there is lot of academic material with her life (most that any other celebrity or artist.... even these that have this section and are feature or good articles). So, in my case, I will work apart in my sandbox in Spanish Wiki and will back (if finally is validaty). Regards, Chrishonduras ( talk) 20:28, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
Okay, its not gossip, trivia additions or fancruft, and will not be a section (it will be academic material). Its possible a separted article. However, I will try to create in Spanish wiki first. Dont worry. Chrishonduras ( talk) 23:03, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
Shouldn't we mention that she has been sued over a dozen times for copyright infringement? That's pretty serious stuff.-- Monochrome_ Monitor 07:48, 27 November 2015 (UTC) Case in point. [3] -- Monochrome_ Monitor 07:50, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
I added the following to the article:
University of Queensland law expert Dr Paul Harper said that Madonna committed sexual assault when she pulled off the top of a female fan she had invited on stage during a March 17, 2016 concert. [1] However, the 17 year old victim said she was not upset. [2]
User:IndianBio removed it and commented "You people have no clue."
What do other editors think about including or not including this information?
Corn jabs 561 ( talk) 16:36, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
What is the consensus on Wikipedia for single-named artists? Usually, when an artist is mostly known under one name, the lead of an article mentions it, even if the mononym in question is already part of the artist's legal name (in bold characters). I noticed SNUGGUMS prefers leaving that information out; they may see it as redundant, but it's a formula used in biographies. For example: http://www.britannica.com/biography/Madonna-American-singer-and-actress .
I suggest the lead reads: "Madonna Louise Ciccone (/tʃɪˈkoʊni/; Italian: [tʃikˈkoːne]; born August 16, 1958), mononymously known as Madonna...". Israell ( talk) 08:33, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
The Britannica article says "Madonna, original name Madonna Louise Ciccone". The relevance of this example is clear; it cites the artist's professional name in addition to her full legal name; that's the point. In Wikipedia, we cite the full legal name first, then the mononym. Many editors have modified the lead so it reads "mononymously known as", so I'm not the only one in favour of that wording. Israell ( talk) 14:59, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
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In May 2014, the magazine listed her as the fourth highest grossing touring act since 1990, with total earned revenue of $1.14 billion and 9.7 million attendance at her shows. [3]
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In March 2016, the magazine listed her as the third highest grossing touring act and highest solo artist since 1990, with total earned revenue of $1.31 billion and 10.7 million attendance at her shows. [4]
Edchuy ( talk) 23:41, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
Is there a reason why the article for one of the most famous people in the world is eight years out of date? 92.24.151.79 ( talk) 00:31, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
Apparently, it's the ONLY SINGLE fair use photo deemed quality enough (speaking of pixels & lighting)... All the other proposed photos (many of which from recent live concerts) were never good enough for some editors. The before-last photo ('Who's That Girl' at the 'Rebel Heart Tour') was just fine, looked nice, but it still wasn't good enough. I'm done debating it. Israell ( talk) 16:49, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
nyuszika7h, my bad. I meant "free". Israell ( talk) 03:12, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
It would be great to have some info regarding the commercial performance and critical reception for Madonna's latest studio effort, Rebel Heart. The current version only cites the demo leaks and the release date, as well as naming three producers - which in my opinion is unnecessary detail for her main article. Lordelliott ( talk) 02:07, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
We have these pictures from the concerts in Australia:
Option 4 has already been cropped. I believe it's appropriate for the infobox.-- Chrishm21 ( talk) 18:18, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
Madonna is not from Queens or Staten Island. Can we remove these categories- "People from Corona, Queens" "People from Queens, New York" "People from Staten Island" 69.86.6.150 ( talk) 23:49, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
Madonna has sold 305.6 million in álbums as 2013 according to guinnes world records. Why you deleted The information ? What is The plan againt of madonna? Jjavier1978 ( talk) 05:32, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
Guinness said two times Madonna (USA, b. Madonna Ciccone) has sold more than 300 million albums in her career since debuting with her self-titled release in 1983. As of October 2013, Madonna had sold an estimated 305,600,000 albums. Her best-sellers are The Immaculate Collection (1990, 30 million copies sold) and True Blue (1986, 25 million copies sold).
First link: http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-female-recording-artist Second link: http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/news/2016/4/record-store-day-as-artists-like-madonna-and-david-bowie-release-exclusive-vinyl-424981
Clearly Guinness says Madonna has sold 305,600,000 albums not records(including singles) That's mean Madonna has sold more than 300 million albums since Madonna(1983) album.
So Guinness confirms two times, more than 300 million sales just album sales. And they give us exact number and explanation :305,600,000
We need add this information on that page. Beacuse Madonna is recognized as the best-selling female recording artist of all time by Guinness World Records. We have to add Guinness's information.
And they told me on Facebook Monitoring album sales is standard for the music industry and for this particular record category. This explanaiton telling this sales exactly album sales if you wonder you can send message to Official Guinness on Facebook
And Guinness can't made a mistake. This is the only Official World Records Company and they give us this information two times. Check out the links.
We have to add on Madonna (entertainer) like second link: According to Guinness World Records Madonna (USA, b. Madonna Ciccone) is the Best-selling female recording artist, having sold more than 300 million albums in her career since debuting with her self-titled release in 1983. Beacuse this is the official information by Guinness World Records and they confirms two times — Navyiconer ( talk) 02:24, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
I'm getting crazy you and IndianBio never understand. Guinness can't made mistake this is the official record company and they explain clearly this sales album sales and confirms two times!! The other sources says 300 million records yes but the other sources are so irrelevant sources. Madonna is recognized as the best-selling female recording artist of all time by Guinness World Records. And we don't accept Guinness World Records's information and explanation. WTF? what's going on here? — Navyiconer ( talk) 02:41, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
Her total album sales on this page /info/en/?search=Madonna_albums_discography +232 million. And her singles sales on this page /info/en/?search=Madonna_singles_discography 115 million. So her video album sales 12 million. 232+115+12 = +359 miilion. Her total records sales over 350 million. And how on Wikipedia her recods sales 300 million? — Navyiconer ( talk) 23:28, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
Please can you explain me pretty please. i can't get it. dou you know math? 232+115 + and video sales = over 350 or over 340 million? — Navyiconer ( talk) 17:15, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
It's now nearly 2 years since the last RM, and only attempt to bring title in line with 3,100 results rather than 866 results. Has local feeling changed? In ictu oculi ( talk) 08:22, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
It was briefly disccussed when MDNA being released, and now I want to open the discussion and clear the things one for all. Live Nation is not a record label, hence it should not be included on every "Label" parameter on Madonna articles. After visiting their official website I'm getting sure about it, as none of their job descriptions relate to record/distribute musics. This interview with Live Nation CEO finally concludes that the company has never been a record label, as he said: "We're not in the rights business. Back then we didn't have any secret sauce on how to distribute that record than somebody else. That's why we thus sold Shakira and Madonna back to the label to recoup our record investment." So, it's clear that Interscope Records (of Universal Music Group) is Madonna's record label since 2011. Bluesatellite ( talk) 23:42, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
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Opening up discussion for the three editors involved in edit warring over wording the last several days. Discuss, rather than revert, please. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 15:43, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
So far, the choice is continued edit warring rather than discussion. Fine, then - I'll start: The edit warring over poor wording should stop. Status quo is not a valid reason to keep poorly worded content lacking in encyclopedic tone. "Pushing the boundaries" is colloquialistic and likely vague and meaningless to a reader outside the U.S. I have improved the wording with the intent to clarify for all readers and keep with MOS policy regarding encyclopedic tone. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 20:42, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
"should be a summary of the existing content"No problem there. "Controversy/controversial" is mentioned five times in the article, one reference has the word "controversial" in the title. "Boundaries" is mentioned once in the context of the lede. Problem is, the use of the word in that context is only in the lede and nowhere else in the article. One other mention of "boundaries" exists, but not in the context the lede projects. Clearly, "controversy/controversial" is appropriate because, as you said, Light show, the lede needs to reflect text found in the body of the article. If I correctly recall MOS policy regarding the lede, if something there isn't reflecting what's in the article, it needs to be removed. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 01:05, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
Section has been archived/closed so that discussion can now move to the discussion section of the RfC below. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 01:46, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
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Can an admin please remove the links to Christopher Ciccone from the article? It was redirected per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christopher Ciccone (2nd nomination). Also, remove his name from the infobox since if he has no article, his name is not notable to be included there.
— IB [ Poke ] 10:44, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
There is a clear consensus for:
Choice 1: "She achieved popularity by pushing the boundaries of lyrical content in mainstream popular music and imagery in her music videos, which became a fixture on MTV."
Should the wording currently in the lede "She achieved popularity by pushing the boundaries of lyrical content in mainstream popular music and imagery in her music videos, which became a fixture on MTV." remain or be changed to "She achieved popularity from the controversial lyrical content in her music and imagery in her music videos, which became a fixture on MTV."? The former is not supported by content in the article body, the latter is supported by content in the article body. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 01:43, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
Choice 1: "She achieved popularity by pushing the boundaries of lyrical content in mainstream popular music and imagery in her music videos, which became a fixture on MTV."
Choice 2: "She achieved popularity from the controversial lyrical content in her music and imagery in her music videos, which became a fixture on MTV."
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I want to request an update on Madonna's current worldwide records sales. According to the most recent update of her Guinness Record as the best-selling female artist of all time, she has sold over 305 million of pure album sales, excluding singles sales (approximate 145 millions singles sold) which would make her total sales equivalent to around 450 million. Please, take this into consideration.
How it should be replaced: "Madonna has sold an estimated of 450 million records worldwide"
Thank You.
OfficialM01 ( talk) 10:14, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
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I boldly changed the infobox image from File:Madonna à Nice 30 2.jpg to File:Madonna à Nice 9.jpg – a photo of the same concert on the same date – feeling the former to be too grainy and low-quality. The change was immediately reverted, so here we are. Granted, the latter image is not the most flattering shot of Madonna (IMO, neither is the former/current image) but I do think it is noticeably better quality with less graininess.
In addition to the MDNA cheerleader outfit picture, I would also like editors to consider File:Madonna at the premiere of I Am Because We Are.jpg, which is a much more viable image as it is of excellent quality. This picture was shut down by a few editors during the last infobox image discussion for being "too old," though the picture is only from 2008 and Madonna has not drastically changed in appearance since then. Additionally, WP:LEADIMAGE does not make any point about using the most recent image available of a person. Its only requirements are that lead images serve as "natural and appropriate visual representations of the topic." It also says that such images "should also be the type of image that is used for similar purposes in high-quality reference works;" its higher quality puts it more in line with the type of image we would see in a high-quality reference work about Madonna.
Please state your preference below with reasoning as necessary. – Chase ( talk / contribs) 00:40, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
(←) In the face of already-overwhelming preference for the third picture, I will go ahead and add a slightly cropped version of it to the infobox. Any further comments can be directed below. – Chase ( talk / contribs) 17:22, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
What stuns me is the shortage of public domain Madonna images available. We're talking about the world's best-selling recording artist here, and it's all the choice we have? Could one please elaborate some more on what constitutes a public domain image? Madonna's been active since 1978, played in two bands, did some acting, then released her first single in 1982. There must be a lot more such images available for us to use. I'm personally sick of Option 3. It's a real nice picture, but we've seen it enough.
Shame we can't use official Madonna promo pics such as this one: http://images1.miaminewtimes.com/imager/u/original/7543458/madonna_rebel_heart_tour_dates_2015.jpg Israell ( talk) 03:00, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
I have a question, what is the different between this official source by her record title: Most Sucessful Female vs Best-selling female. Are the same or different record?. Regards, Chrishonduras ( talk) 16:44, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
How can she have a legacy considering she's not, well, dead? Kirschkuchen ( talk) 23:43, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
OK, I just added this [1] and got reverted [2]. I'm not familiar with what happened here before, but no where in the article is it explained why we are referring to her using her first name throughout. No where is it said that she adopted 'Madonna' as her stage name. Can we PLEASE have something that indicates that she has adopted Madonna as her stage name? Instead we have just assumed that 'everyone knows', which is not OK for an encyclopedia. Darx9url ( talk) 11:21, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
I wanted to propose if we could switch (yet again) the infobox picture; don't think bad of me, I think the current one is fine but it's clearly been just cropped out of the full WTG one and is not the best resolution or quality. I I came across and uploaded these ones from flickr; and they're really good quality and Madonna looks good in them, so perhaps we can use one of these. Of course, we could also keep that one but crop it correctly from the parent picture. P: -- Chrishm21 ( talk) 19:49, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
"Awful duck lips"... That's body shaming. Madonna's lips are fine! We're not here to judge or critique her looks and physique but choose a suitable photo for the lead, and I don't see why as the previous photo (RHT-WTG performance) was just fine! Israell ( talk) 08:22, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
What do you mean "humiliating"? Israell ( talk) 08:22, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Here's another one. Front view of her face in neutral expression. -- Triggerhippie4 ( talk) 22:08, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
Excuse the wording bu she looks drunk here. — Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 09:40, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
Here are some more from flickr; some of them are very good (IMO) all that'd be needed is for an user to crop them to an appropriate size. I'm particularly fond of Option 14
-- Chrishm21 ( talk) 17:46, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
This photo was fine! https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Madonna_%28entertainer%29&diff=697767597&oldid=697764478#/media/File:Rebel_Heart_WTG_%283%29.jpg Why wasn't it included in the poll? Aren't you editors sick of Option 7? Very nice picture, but is this the ONLY photo we can use??? Tell me it's a joke. Israell ( talk) 08:22, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
What about we redo the vote and include the WTG picture? Israell ( talk) 08:27, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Having personal details (marriages, etc) scattered through professional career is unwieldy, and most celeb biographical articles have these split out. Dfoofnik ( talk) 18:04, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
My two cents: I noted that this topic its a debate over the time. I believe that we can create a section of her personal life and relationships (even if its already mentioned in the articles' body, "apparently"). The reason its simple: there is lot of academic material with her life (most that any other celebrity or artist.... even these that have this section and are feature or good articles). So, in my case, I will work apart in my sandbox in Spanish Wiki and will back (if finally is validaty). Regards, Chrishonduras ( talk) 20:28, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
Okay, its not gossip, trivia additions or fancruft, and will not be a section (it will be academic material). Its possible a separted article. However, I will try to create in Spanish wiki first. Dont worry. Chrishonduras ( talk) 23:03, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
Shouldn't we mention that she has been sued over a dozen times for copyright infringement? That's pretty serious stuff.-- Monochrome_ Monitor 07:48, 27 November 2015 (UTC) Case in point. [3] -- Monochrome_ Monitor 07:50, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
I added the following to the article:
University of Queensland law expert Dr Paul Harper said that Madonna committed sexual assault when she pulled off the top of a female fan she had invited on stage during a March 17, 2016 concert. [1] However, the 17 year old victim said she was not upset. [2]
User:IndianBio removed it and commented "You people have no clue."
What do other editors think about including or not including this information?
Corn jabs 561 ( talk) 16:36, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
What is the consensus on Wikipedia for single-named artists? Usually, when an artist is mostly known under one name, the lead of an article mentions it, even if the mononym in question is already part of the artist's legal name (in bold characters). I noticed SNUGGUMS prefers leaving that information out; they may see it as redundant, but it's a formula used in biographies. For example: http://www.britannica.com/biography/Madonna-American-singer-and-actress .
I suggest the lead reads: "Madonna Louise Ciccone (/tʃɪˈkoʊni/; Italian: [tʃikˈkoːne]; born August 16, 1958), mononymously known as Madonna...". Israell ( talk) 08:33, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
The Britannica article says "Madonna, original name Madonna Louise Ciccone". The relevance of this example is clear; it cites the artist's professional name in addition to her full legal name; that's the point. In Wikipedia, we cite the full legal name first, then the mononym. Many editors have modified the lead so it reads "mononymously known as", so I'm not the only one in favour of that wording. Israell ( talk) 14:59, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
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In May 2014, the magazine listed her as the fourth highest grossing touring act since 1990, with total earned revenue of $1.14 billion and 9.7 million attendance at her shows. [3]
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In March 2016, the magazine listed her as the third highest grossing touring act and highest solo artist since 1990, with total earned revenue of $1.31 billion and 10.7 million attendance at her shows. [4]
Edchuy ( talk) 23:41, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
Is there a reason why the article for one of the most famous people in the world is eight years out of date? 92.24.151.79 ( talk) 00:31, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
Apparently, it's the ONLY SINGLE fair use photo deemed quality enough (speaking of pixels & lighting)... All the other proposed photos (many of which from recent live concerts) were never good enough for some editors. The before-last photo ('Who's That Girl' at the 'Rebel Heart Tour') was just fine, looked nice, but it still wasn't good enough. I'm done debating it. Israell ( talk) 16:49, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
nyuszika7h, my bad. I meant "free". Israell ( talk) 03:12, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
It would be great to have some info regarding the commercial performance and critical reception for Madonna's latest studio effort, Rebel Heart. The current version only cites the demo leaks and the release date, as well as naming three producers - which in my opinion is unnecessary detail for her main article. Lordelliott ( talk) 02:07, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
We have these pictures from the concerts in Australia:
Option 4 has already been cropped. I believe it's appropriate for the infobox.-- Chrishm21 ( talk) 18:18, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
Madonna is not from Queens or Staten Island. Can we remove these categories- "People from Corona, Queens" "People from Queens, New York" "People from Staten Island" 69.86.6.150 ( talk) 23:49, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
Madonna has sold 305.6 million in álbums as 2013 according to guinnes world records. Why you deleted The information ? What is The plan againt of madonna? Jjavier1978 ( talk) 05:32, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
Guinness said two times Madonna (USA, b. Madonna Ciccone) has sold more than 300 million albums in her career since debuting with her self-titled release in 1983. As of October 2013, Madonna had sold an estimated 305,600,000 albums. Her best-sellers are The Immaculate Collection (1990, 30 million copies sold) and True Blue (1986, 25 million copies sold).
First link: http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/best-selling-female-recording-artist Second link: http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/news/2016/4/record-store-day-as-artists-like-madonna-and-david-bowie-release-exclusive-vinyl-424981
Clearly Guinness says Madonna has sold 305,600,000 albums not records(including singles) That's mean Madonna has sold more than 300 million albums since Madonna(1983) album.
So Guinness confirms two times, more than 300 million sales just album sales. And they give us exact number and explanation :305,600,000
We need add this information on that page. Beacuse Madonna is recognized as the best-selling female recording artist of all time by Guinness World Records. We have to add Guinness's information.
And they told me on Facebook Monitoring album sales is standard for the music industry and for this particular record category. This explanaiton telling this sales exactly album sales if you wonder you can send message to Official Guinness on Facebook
And Guinness can't made a mistake. This is the only Official World Records Company and they give us this information two times. Check out the links.
We have to add on Madonna (entertainer) like second link: According to Guinness World Records Madonna (USA, b. Madonna Ciccone) is the Best-selling female recording artist, having sold more than 300 million albums in her career since debuting with her self-titled release in 1983. Beacuse this is the official information by Guinness World Records and they confirms two times — Navyiconer ( talk) 02:24, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
I'm getting crazy you and IndianBio never understand. Guinness can't made mistake this is the official record company and they explain clearly this sales album sales and confirms two times!! The other sources says 300 million records yes but the other sources are so irrelevant sources. Madonna is recognized as the best-selling female recording artist of all time by Guinness World Records. And we don't accept Guinness World Records's information and explanation. WTF? what's going on here? — Navyiconer ( talk) 02:41, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
Her total album sales on this page /info/en/?search=Madonna_albums_discography +232 million. And her singles sales on this page /info/en/?search=Madonna_singles_discography 115 million. So her video album sales 12 million. 232+115+12 = +359 miilion. Her total records sales over 350 million. And how on Wikipedia her recods sales 300 million? — Navyiconer ( talk) 23:28, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
Please can you explain me pretty please. i can't get it. dou you know math? 232+115 + and video sales = over 350 or over 340 million? — Navyiconer ( talk) 17:15, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
It's now nearly 2 years since the last RM, and only attempt to bring title in line with 3,100 results rather than 866 results. Has local feeling changed? In ictu oculi ( talk) 08:22, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
It was briefly disccussed when MDNA being released, and now I want to open the discussion and clear the things one for all. Live Nation is not a record label, hence it should not be included on every "Label" parameter on Madonna articles. After visiting their official website I'm getting sure about it, as none of their job descriptions relate to record/distribute musics. This interview with Live Nation CEO finally concludes that the company has never been a record label, as he said: "We're not in the rights business. Back then we didn't have any secret sauce on how to distribute that record than somebody else. That's why we thus sold Shakira and Madonna back to the label to recoup our record investment." So, it's clear that Interscope Records (of Universal Music Group) is Madonna's record label since 2011. Bluesatellite ( talk) 23:42, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
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Opening up discussion for the three editors involved in edit warring over wording the last several days. Discuss, rather than revert, please. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 15:43, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
So far, the choice is continued edit warring rather than discussion. Fine, then - I'll start: The edit warring over poor wording should stop. Status quo is not a valid reason to keep poorly worded content lacking in encyclopedic tone. "Pushing the boundaries" is colloquialistic and likely vague and meaningless to a reader outside the U.S. I have improved the wording with the intent to clarify for all readers and keep with MOS policy regarding encyclopedic tone. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 20:42, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
"should be a summary of the existing content"No problem there. "Controversy/controversial" is mentioned five times in the article, one reference has the word "controversial" in the title. "Boundaries" is mentioned once in the context of the lede. Problem is, the use of the word in that context is only in the lede and nowhere else in the article. One other mention of "boundaries" exists, but not in the context the lede projects. Clearly, "controversy/controversial" is appropriate because, as you said, Light show, the lede needs to reflect text found in the body of the article. If I correctly recall MOS policy regarding the lede, if something there isn't reflecting what's in the article, it needs to be removed. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 01:05, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
Section has been archived/closed so that discussion can now move to the discussion section of the RfC below. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 01:46, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
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Can an admin please remove the links to Christopher Ciccone from the article? It was redirected per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christopher Ciccone (2nd nomination). Also, remove his name from the infobox since if he has no article, his name is not notable to be included there.
— IB [ Poke ] 10:44, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
There is a clear consensus for:
Choice 1: "She achieved popularity by pushing the boundaries of lyrical content in mainstream popular music and imagery in her music videos, which became a fixture on MTV."
Should the wording currently in the lede "She achieved popularity by pushing the boundaries of lyrical content in mainstream popular music and imagery in her music videos, which became a fixture on MTV." remain or be changed to "She achieved popularity from the controversial lyrical content in her music and imagery in her music videos, which became a fixture on MTV."? The former is not supported by content in the article body, the latter is supported by content in the article body. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 01:43, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
Choice 1: "She achieved popularity by pushing the boundaries of lyrical content in mainstream popular music and imagery in her music videos, which became a fixture on MTV."
Choice 2: "She achieved popularity from the controversial lyrical content in her music and imagery in her music videos, which became a fixture on MTV."
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I want to request an update on Madonna's current worldwide records sales. According to the most recent update of her Guinness Record as the best-selling female artist of all time, she has sold over 305 million of pure album sales, excluding singles sales (approximate 145 millions singles sold) which would make her total sales equivalent to around 450 million. Please, take this into consideration.
How it should be replaced: "Madonna has sold an estimated of 450 million records worldwide"
Thank You.
OfficialM01 ( talk) 10:14, 10 July 2016 (UTC)