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How is it possible for Blaustein to be a woman? He voices Solomon Muto in Yu-Gi-Oh! with a fairly deep voice. How is it possible for a woman to pull that off? Unless Madeleine Blaustein and Adam Blaustein are two different people. Geg 16:13, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
Blaustein is a man. If you watch the video commentary for Pokemon 4ever you will hear many times Blaustein refered to as a man. I am going to edit this page to correct this mistake.
I don't see a source specified for the information about her having been born with an intersex condition. But I think it's probably better to discuss that here than just delete the datum, for a variety of reasons, number one being that there are very few intersex people who are notable for things other than that accident of birth. Hopefully someone can run down where the claim came from? There's clear and sourced information that she identified as transgender (as do some but not all [other] intersex people who have transitioned to correct errors made by other people during their infancy) but the two labels are not exclusive. — 50.14.58.71 ( talk) 19:01, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
Due to a backlog it is no longer possible to give comment on ratings. Please put any comments/questions on my talk page. GDon4t0 20:36, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
How can she voice Waddle Dee if he doesn't even talk? Is it a possible mistake by the editor who probably meant to put Waddle Doo instead? -- Coconutfred73 20:48, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
www.serebii.net
She died, goddamit. Stop with the undids. Serebii.net is one of the most verifiable and the most credibil one. They know more than you'll ever do, and they get the news faster than the local news sites. So get over it. Not every edit on Wikipedia is vandalism... ~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.138.205.175 ( talk) 18:10, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
What so ever, she died anyway. Very soon the news will appear in your INCREDIBLE REALIABLE AND VERIFIRED NO ONE CAN DENY ABOUT sources, and then you'll be sorry for having such a hard time in coming here, editing all the stuff and trying to know more than Serebii.net. But you don't care, do you? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.138.205.175 ( talk) 18:29, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Not really a reliable source, but someone other than Serebii is reporting it: [3]. Of course, if an official statement will be released soon, it might be best to wait until that comes out, and then use that as a citation. Immortal Wowbagger ( talk) 20:47, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Wow, you guys really spend your time here to block something that's gonna be unlocked tomorrow? Your arrogancy and stupidity makes me feel sad, really. Get a life. 85.138.205.175 ( talk) 21:55, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Here's the most valid proof you can possible get, Wiki mods:
http://www.4kids.tv/buzz/view/2005
If the site for the company she worked for isn't enough, nothing is for you guys. 67.186.163.48 ( talk) 23:17, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
The article currently reads she died "after a short illness". As far as I've read, she complained once about "not feeling well". I don't think saying she had a short illness is accurate. JuJube ( talk) 00:39, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
I added nationality to the lead. Can the transgender material be properly sourced and added to the body of the article in an encyclopdeiac fasion? Maybe start a "Personal" section and put most of the rest under a "Career" section? TIA Tom 00:45, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
The Original voice actor was Nathan Price. Anyway, Here is the clip I posted. [4] - User:BuddyBoy600 —Preceding undated comment added 19:20, 6 April 2009 (UTC).
She is also former Goodwin in 5ds. Its really tragic of her death though. Can somebody add it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.151.68.109 ( talk) 22:43, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
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I won't argue for complete removal like the IP, but I don't see any reason for Blaustein's deadname to be in the lead, either. One hidden note in the article says She had published credits under this name, so Wikipedia policy requires it to be here. But that's not what the guidelines actually say.
MOS:CHANGEDNAME talks about whether someone was notable, not whether they have published work: In the case of transgender and non-binary people, birth names should be included in the lead sentence only when the person was notable under that name.
(Hell, if you count self-publishing *I* have published work.)
Would Blaustein pass
WP:GNG or have her own article based solely on her comics work? I don't think so. The sources focus instead on her acting.
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Online sources tend to neglect topics which pre-date online sources.Essentially I'm nominating Blaustein's birth name for deletion (well, deletion from the lead sentence.) I think it's on you to show, through sources, that her old name is notable enough to be mentioned in bold in the opening words of the article.
I think it was very notable that she introduced a realistic trans character in a superhero series at a major publisher then made her the protagonist of her own series: Well, according to the article, that wasn't done under her birth name, but under Addie Blaustein. WanderingWanda ( talk) 01:09, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
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How is it possible for Blaustein to be a woman? He voices Solomon Muto in Yu-Gi-Oh! with a fairly deep voice. How is it possible for a woman to pull that off? Unless Madeleine Blaustein and Adam Blaustein are two different people. Geg 16:13, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
Blaustein is a man. If you watch the video commentary for Pokemon 4ever you will hear many times Blaustein refered to as a man. I am going to edit this page to correct this mistake.
I don't see a source specified for the information about her having been born with an intersex condition. But I think it's probably better to discuss that here than just delete the datum, for a variety of reasons, number one being that there are very few intersex people who are notable for things other than that accident of birth. Hopefully someone can run down where the claim came from? There's clear and sourced information that she identified as transgender (as do some but not all [other] intersex people who have transitioned to correct errors made by other people during their infancy) but the two labels are not exclusive. — 50.14.58.71 ( talk) 19:01, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
Due to a backlog it is no longer possible to give comment on ratings. Please put any comments/questions on my talk page. GDon4t0 20:36, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
How can she voice Waddle Dee if he doesn't even talk? Is it a possible mistake by the editor who probably meant to put Waddle Doo instead? -- Coconutfred73 20:48, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
www.serebii.net
She died, goddamit. Stop with the undids. Serebii.net is one of the most verifiable and the most credibil one. They know more than you'll ever do, and they get the news faster than the local news sites. So get over it. Not every edit on Wikipedia is vandalism... ~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.138.205.175 ( talk) 18:10, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
What so ever, she died anyway. Very soon the news will appear in your INCREDIBLE REALIABLE AND VERIFIRED NO ONE CAN DENY ABOUT sources, and then you'll be sorry for having such a hard time in coming here, editing all the stuff and trying to know more than Serebii.net. But you don't care, do you? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.138.205.175 ( talk) 18:29, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Not really a reliable source, but someone other than Serebii is reporting it: [3]. Of course, if an official statement will be released soon, it might be best to wait until that comes out, and then use that as a citation. Immortal Wowbagger ( talk) 20:47, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Wow, you guys really spend your time here to block something that's gonna be unlocked tomorrow? Your arrogancy and stupidity makes me feel sad, really. Get a life. 85.138.205.175 ( talk) 21:55, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Here's the most valid proof you can possible get, Wiki mods:
http://www.4kids.tv/buzz/view/2005
If the site for the company she worked for isn't enough, nothing is for you guys. 67.186.163.48 ( talk) 23:17, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
The article currently reads she died "after a short illness". As far as I've read, she complained once about "not feeling well". I don't think saying she had a short illness is accurate. JuJube ( talk) 00:39, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
I added nationality to the lead. Can the transgender material be properly sourced and added to the body of the article in an encyclopdeiac fasion? Maybe start a "Personal" section and put most of the rest under a "Career" section? TIA Tom 00:45, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
The Original voice actor was Nathan Price. Anyway, Here is the clip I posted. [4] - User:BuddyBoy600 —Preceding undated comment added 19:20, 6 April 2009 (UTC).
She is also former Goodwin in 5ds. Its really tragic of her death though. Can somebody add it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.151.68.109 ( talk) 22:43, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
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involving trans people of various viewpoints: But mostly, of course, cis people of various viewpoints. ("It's called 'A Salute to All Nations, but Mostly America'." – Sam Eagle, MuppetVision 3D) WanderingWanda ( talk) 02:41, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
I won't argue for complete removal like the IP, but I don't see any reason for Blaustein's deadname to be in the lead, either. One hidden note in the article says She had published credits under this name, so Wikipedia policy requires it to be here. But that's not what the guidelines actually say.
MOS:CHANGEDNAME talks about whether someone was notable, not whether they have published work: In the case of transgender and non-binary people, birth names should be included in the lead sentence only when the person was notable under that name.
(Hell, if you count self-publishing *I* have published work.)
Would Blaustein pass
WP:GNG or have her own article based solely on her comics work? I don't think so. The sources focus instead on her acting.
WanderingWanda (
talk) 02:43, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
Online sources tend to neglect topics which pre-date online sources.Essentially I'm nominating Blaustein's birth name for deletion (well, deletion from the lead sentence.) I think it's on you to show, through sources, that her old name is notable enough to be mentioned in bold in the opening words of the article.
I think it was very notable that she introduced a realistic trans character in a superhero series at a major publisher then made her the protagonist of her own series: Well, according to the article, that wasn't done under her birth name, but under Addie Blaustein. WanderingWanda ( talk) 01:09, 6 November 2019 (UTC)