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DNV Exchange says that the overall length of the Allure of the Seas is the same as that of the Oasis of the Seas i.e. 360 m (1,181 ft). I believe that this figure, coming from a database maintained by the classification society, is more reliable than that coming from Fakta om Fartyg which does not list its sources and is, if I have understood correctly, maintained by a single person. The article also claims, without inline citation, that the ship is 362 meters (1,187 ft) long — the same figure is also given in the list of world's longest ships. Then there is all this "x longer than Oasis of the Seas" talk, with x varying between 5 millimetres and 2 inches depending on who you ask. Everyone seems to be talking about it, but I have yet to see a reliable source...
So, what's the actual length of the Allure of the Seas? Tupsumato ( talk) 01:18, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
As a matter of fact it is not quite correct to declare the Allure of the Seas and the Oasis of the Seas identical twins. Officially the Allure of the seas is 50 mm longer than the Oasis of the Seas, which project director Topivo Ilvonen [sic] of STX Finland assures that is not intentional. "Indeed this is a curiosity only. In a ship that is 360 metres long such small differences may occur due to the temperatures of the steel," he explains. (Shipgaz No 6, 2010)
I have opened a discussion regarding the use and possible improvement of citation templates for classification society databases here. Tupsumato ( talk) 09:51, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
I think there's something iffy in the infobox. According to DNV Exchange, which I personally consider to be the most reliable source when it comes to technical details such as main dimensions, the maximum beam (Bext) of the vessel is 60.5 m. That's probably measured from the bridge wings. I am willing to accept the RCCL figure (65 m) as well if they have added something that protrudes from the ship, but "max moulded" is definitely wrong as the moulded beam is measured only for the hull, not for the superstructure.
However, I'll leave editing for the person who seems to be aggressively protecting the infobox in the Oasis class articles. Tupsumato ( talk) 11:03, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
Why was the incident section removed? All of these three incidents are worthy of inclusion in this article as they are notable events in the ships lifetime. Two persons overboard and an engine fire are major events on a vessel. Looking at many other articles on cruise ships, the majority also have small sections on major incidents that occurred on the ship. Why is this article different? FirstDrop87 ( talk) 15:31, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
We have two keel laying dates: 31 March and 2 December 2008 for this ship, what is keel laying date, I always take this date from register, if exists.
What is keel laying date? we can read at § 30.10-37
Keel laying date—TB/ALL.
The term keel laying date means the date upon which progressive construction identifiable with a specific vessel begins, including construction of the first module or prefabricated section of the hull that is identifiable with that vessel.
[CGD 74-127, 41 FR 3843, Jan. 26, 1976], thanks-- PjotrMahh1 ( talk) 16:59, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
I added the Febuary drydocking to the article as I thought it is an issue with the ship and a cruise has been cancelled, which I thought was worthy of being added. Also, it made it onto the news pages as well? Thoughts please? MrDerails ( talk) 18:26, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
I added more photographs to the gallery of the ship's interior. SpiritedMichelle ( talk) 19:14, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
The intuitive count going by pictures is 15 decks, and that counts the really high partial decks that don't even cover a quarter of the area of the ship. Unless there is a deck at the waterline with no windows, or they are skipping 13, it seems like there are only 15 decks. B137 ( talk) 00:49, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
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DNV Exchange says that the overall length of the Allure of the Seas is the same as that of the Oasis of the Seas i.e. 360 m (1,181 ft). I believe that this figure, coming from a database maintained by the classification society, is more reliable than that coming from Fakta om Fartyg which does not list its sources and is, if I have understood correctly, maintained by a single person. The article also claims, without inline citation, that the ship is 362 meters (1,187 ft) long — the same figure is also given in the list of world's longest ships. Then there is all this "x longer than Oasis of the Seas" talk, with x varying between 5 millimetres and 2 inches depending on who you ask. Everyone seems to be talking about it, but I have yet to see a reliable source...
So, what's the actual length of the Allure of the Seas? Tupsumato ( talk) 01:18, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
As a matter of fact it is not quite correct to declare the Allure of the Seas and the Oasis of the Seas identical twins. Officially the Allure of the seas is 50 mm longer than the Oasis of the Seas, which project director Topivo Ilvonen [sic] of STX Finland assures that is not intentional. "Indeed this is a curiosity only. In a ship that is 360 metres long such small differences may occur due to the temperatures of the steel," he explains. (Shipgaz No 6, 2010)
I have opened a discussion regarding the use and possible improvement of citation templates for classification society databases here. Tupsumato ( talk) 09:51, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
I think there's something iffy in the infobox. According to DNV Exchange, which I personally consider to be the most reliable source when it comes to technical details such as main dimensions, the maximum beam (Bext) of the vessel is 60.5 m. That's probably measured from the bridge wings. I am willing to accept the RCCL figure (65 m) as well if they have added something that protrudes from the ship, but "max moulded" is definitely wrong as the moulded beam is measured only for the hull, not for the superstructure.
However, I'll leave editing for the person who seems to be aggressively protecting the infobox in the Oasis class articles. Tupsumato ( talk) 11:03, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
Why was the incident section removed? All of these three incidents are worthy of inclusion in this article as they are notable events in the ships lifetime. Two persons overboard and an engine fire are major events on a vessel. Looking at many other articles on cruise ships, the majority also have small sections on major incidents that occurred on the ship. Why is this article different? FirstDrop87 ( talk) 15:31, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
We have two keel laying dates: 31 March and 2 December 2008 for this ship, what is keel laying date, I always take this date from register, if exists.
What is keel laying date? we can read at § 30.10-37
Keel laying date—TB/ALL.
The term keel laying date means the date upon which progressive construction identifiable with a specific vessel begins, including construction of the first module or prefabricated section of the hull that is identifiable with that vessel.
[CGD 74-127, 41 FR 3843, Jan. 26, 1976], thanks-- PjotrMahh1 ( talk) 16:59, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
I added the Febuary drydocking to the article as I thought it is an issue with the ship and a cruise has been cancelled, which I thought was worthy of being added. Also, it made it onto the news pages as well? Thoughts please? MrDerails ( talk) 18:26, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
I added more photographs to the gallery of the ship's interior. SpiritedMichelle ( talk) 19:14, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
The intuitive count going by pictures is 15 decks, and that counts the really high partial decks that don't even cover a quarter of the area of the ship. Unless there is a deck at the waterline with no windows, or they are skipping 13, it seems like there are only 15 decks. B137 ( talk) 00:49, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:MS Symphony of the Seas which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 16:04, 6 December 2018 (UTC)